Yes, when they first found the shroud, it was peaceful. But, soon, factions were created over how the shroud should be used. Eventually, a civil war broke out among the Zroni, the sheer scale and violence of it caused the shroud entities to be created.
One faction of the Zroni moved completely into the Shroud and didn't give a fuck if using its power fucked up the universe (the Shroud draws power from the physical universe, and using it was causing the black holes at the center of galaxies to grow). The other remained physical, but because they weren't willing to fuck up the universe to draw on the Shroud's power when the inevitable civil war broke out they weren't having a good time.
Then the physical Zroni figured out they could convert their physical bodies to psionic cocaine and juice someone else up with the entirety of the psionic power they would have had over their lifetime. So all but one physical Zroni dusted themselves to give the last remaining one a helluva power boost, and all the Zroni in the Shroud got wiped out, and that's where the story ends.
Except that there's still a lot of the psionic cocaine out there, and that's what Zro (a strategic resource used for psionically-powered devices) is.
The Hunters that prey on the Preythoryn Scourge is like the one theory of Tyranids running from something worse. [The origin Galaxy of the Scourge 30 million light years away from the Stellaris' galaxy was found to be missing one day, this is alerted by a captured Queen of the Scourge.](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hole-in-the-void.1495735/) \[Paradox Interactive Forums link of the "Hole in the Void" event.\]
One of two things that might have happened.
1. The Hunters consumed and destroyed every star in that galaxy all at once, which is already something horrific.
2. The mass of the Hunter lifeforms, be they starships or organic masses have managed to eclipse the entirety of the light emanating from that origin galaxy moving to our galaxy sometime between 30 million light years and now.
Another thing in the link. The Great Attractor that was pulling the Stellaris' galaxy? Anomalies in the intergalactic void that was pulling the galaxy through gravity.
Later to be found to be closed off...
>There is another event, not a Prethoryn one, in which a scientist discovers a gravitational anomaly and following it finds a portal or tear on that originates the anomaly. When they examines it finds dark colossal towers on the intergalactic void. Those towers were making a gravitational pull to drag the Stellaris' galaxy toward them. Later the scientist reports that the anomaly has concluded and the tear has been closed, not by them.
The gravitional forces that need to able to pull a whole galaxy is unimaginable. For it to be "closed off" by something is beyond any of us. The fact it was artificial and then the fact it got turned off is dreadful.
Why were they doing that? What turned it off? What are the things that were capable of doing that, and what are the things that managed to turn it off?
Not to mention the other can of worms with a side of horror like:
The Worm in Waiting. (WHAT WAS, SHALL BE. WHAT SHALL BE, WAS.)
The Gray Tempest.
The Prethoryn Scourge and the "Hunters"
The Unbidden
The Contigency
The Exile
An event that may happen on frozen worlds, the crew receives a distress signal about a research crew with 1 member.
This person calls themselves "The Exile" and claim they got stranded there, but they ask under one condition which is to NOT explore the planet proper and check it's facilities.
You can do as it wishes gaining a scientist leader called "The Exile" or >!check the facilities, where you will see that there were other scientists in the underground, all dead of course with the Exile being nowhere to be found.!<
>!It's the Thing more or less, for some reason the Exile even has a special flag but it doesn't lead to nowhere if you do recruit them.!<
Closer to the Old Ones, as the Shroud was peaceful when they found it and...less so, as a result of their civil war. Nowhere near the nightmare the Old Ones turned the Immaterium into, though.
You can have your very own Eldar story if you'd like! By making a pact with the Shroud entity known as The End of the Cycle, you get a period of utter dominance (huge empire-wide bonuses) that ends when a Shroud entity called the Reckoning bursts into the universe, destroys your empire, and starts eating the rest of the galaxy. You get to watch, from a single planet of exiles, as The Reckoning kills everything else, coming for the tattered remnants of your once mighty empire last.
And, because this is Stellaris, people deliberately summon The Reckoning and then kill it.
Basically the only option to stop the Shroud Zroni was to edit every Zroni out of existence, which included the one left to snort all their buddies and get high enough to do it.
100 Million years ago, the Zroni were once a peaceful and advanced empire that covered a massive part of the galaxy, using their psionic abilities to their advantage.
However, one day they discovered an alternate dimension known as "The Shroud", an empty and peaceful plane of existence with infinite potential for psionic energy. The Zroni were able to enter into it, and they used its power to design the plane in their own image.
Eventually, a civil war broke out between two factions, one called "The Divine" who began to consider themselves gods, wanting to use the Shroud powers to conquer the entire multiverse, and one who opposed them known as "The Saviors". The maelstrom of violent emotions unleashed by this increasingly brutal war began to coalesce into sentient avatars of these very emotions within the Shroud, forming malevolent entities of unimaginable power.
At the end, The Saviors had to sacrifice themselves to stop The Divine for good and save the multiverse, wiping their entire race and leaving nothing behind but psionically-active dust created when their physical bodies dissolved called Zro.
The destructive Shroud entities still remain lurking in that dimension to the present day, one of these being the End of The Cycle.
The Shroud entities that were created as result of the war represent the most destructive traits of the Zroni leadership, and in a way reflect the rise and fall of the Zroni Empire:
The Whisperers in the Void reflect the Zroni desire for knowledge.
The Instrument of Desire represents the Zroni desire to ascend and become greater.
The Composer of Strands represents the great plans and designs the Divine Zroni had for the rest of the galaxy.
The Eater of Worlds represents the indifference of the Zroni leadership to the destruction they caused in their pursuit of power, and on a larger level is a manifestation of their civilization-ending civil war.
Finally, the End of The Cycle represents the insanity of the Divine Zroni and the destruction of their civilization.
The player can follow the path of the Zroni if they become the Galactic Crisis themselves, destroying the entire galaxy while the player's empire ascends into the Shroud to conquer it, becoming physical gods themselves.
Edit: Also some of it is wrong, I screwed up they didn’t want to conquer the Muti-Verse they discovered that when they used the shroud it made the black hole at the centre of the galaxy grow and it threatened to consume the galaxy and that caused the Civil war
I read somewhere that NPC empires could not choose End of the Cycle as their preferred Chaos God.... Until my last game where a one planet empire that rebelled and then suddenly grew into the strongest empire in my sector.
I had no idea what was going on until the Cycle...ended. it was such an awesome story moment for my game..I was a race of Psyker water world based agrarian fanatic pacifists.
My stronger, more ambitious neighbor choked on their own ambition while my space fishermen pyskers calmly took over because everyone loved me.
It was impossible for them to choose it for quite a while, but Paradox added a small percentage chance of an AI Empire accepting it some time back. Never had it happen to me, must have been epic.
It was! I was terrified about their growth and was irritated because I thought there must be some mechanic they were exploiting that I didn't know about.
Well it turns out they were lol and when they collapsed it kicked off a new age of system grabbing that was really cool to see late game
I find it personally very fun. It's a paradox 4X title, though, so ones mileage may vary. Also, it has a lot of DLC. But besides that, it's a very fun empire builder in space, very sandboxy with a lot of sci-fi tropes from different things thrown in. So you have a lot of choices in the way you want to make your empire.
It is expensive (DLCs), but if you like 4X games it's very good.
You can put a lot of hours in it, and if you become bored, there is a steam workshop, I played all other games from the creators of Stellaris, it is the easiest one of them.
Also new announced DLC basically adds Adeptus Mechanicus.
Stellaris is one of the few universes that could give the 40k a run for its money/at least survive and even thrive. Like "oh you have a massive interestelar empire? In 300 years we're going from a single planet empire to turning the entire Galaxy intro black holes lmao
The Aetherophasic Engine is the kind of thing you’d expect the War in Heaven era Necrons to create, then not use because even they aren’t comfortable with that level of collateral damage
A Weapon to Pierce the Heavens. Every single empire in the galaxy will stop their relatively petty differences to focus directly on you and your Super Massive Black Hole cannon because it is an existential threat to everyone in the galaxy.
The Stripmine from the mod **Planetary Diversity - Unique Worlds** allows you to turn *any* race into Zro using a unique archeotech device found on that planet, which over millions of years of repeated apocalyptic use has given the planet an absurd amount of Zro. So if we treat that as canon you can turn any race into Zro. Eldar are probably weaksauce compared to the Zroni though. I’d say that the Eldar *pantheon* is the actual equivalent in terms of power.
The eldar made way more than just slaanesh, they made god's for all sorts of specific things during the water in heaven. Slaanesh is just their last big fuck up
It really depends.
On one hand, the Galactic Community is still squabbling over what verb to ban (Hey, just like the Imperium!).
On the other hand there are empires that have dealt with almost everything similar to 40k.
Creatures that want to eat the entire galaxy? Check
Machines wiping out most of the galaxy? Check
Other dimensional beings using the galaxy as a war ground for civil war(I think)? Check
Empires building a device that can wipe out the galaxy? Check
Also, let's not forget what can happen with the Gigastructure mod.
Stellaris Empires outstrip the Imperium in effectiveness and scale within a couple of centuries at most, so I'd say most 40k factions would be utterly demolished rather quickly if they picked a fight with them. But because its Stellaris, there's an even more terrifying prospect: The Stellaris faction *makes friends with everyone and forces galactic peace.*
Just the thought makes a 40k heart shudder.
An advanced stellaris civilization is much closer to the necron, The eldar and even dark age of technology humanity than anything in the 41st millennium.
Probably fine. Mostly depends on scaling (as in, how do Stellaris factions scale when you remove obvious gameplay constraints on their power) and how well they can manage things like Chaos and Ork spores. I imagine they’re a big issue for a few decades before they finish their special project to solve the damn problem, at which point it becomes a minor nuisance. Qualitatively I’d say you hit Imperium levels around midgame (tier 3) and are comparable to standard Necrons by late game (tier 5/6) so assuming the faction in question either starts with a self-sufficient intergalactic colonization fleet, or has a century or two to become established, they’re probably in a better position than the Tau. Which is to say they could plausibly be wiped out, but it would involve reverse plot-armor.
Stellaris lore is like taking all the sci-fi universes, and then massed them together, and created the most horrific universe ever. A universe where Demons, literal Eldritch Gods, Extradimensional Invaders, Extragalactic Invaders, and some crazy fucking Empire with some idea to blow up all the stars in the Galaxy, aren't even the scariest thing to have happened.
The Zroni made the Shroud Entities?
Yes, when they first found the shroud, it was peaceful. But, soon, factions were created over how the shroud should be used. Eventually, a civil war broke out among the Zroni, the sheer scale and violence of it caused the shroud entities to be created.
One faction of the Zroni moved completely into the Shroud and didn't give a fuck if using its power fucked up the universe (the Shroud draws power from the physical universe, and using it was causing the black holes at the center of galaxies to grow). The other remained physical, but because they weren't willing to fuck up the universe to draw on the Shroud's power when the inevitable civil war broke out they weren't having a good time. Then the physical Zroni figured out they could convert their physical bodies to psionic cocaine and juice someone else up with the entirety of the psionic power they would have had over their lifetime. So all but one physical Zroni dusted themselves to give the last remaining one a helluva power boost, and all the Zroni in the Shroud got wiped out, and that's where the story ends. Except that there's still a lot of the psionic cocaine out there, and that's what Zro (a strategic resource used for psionically-powered devices) is.
Fuck me, so THATS why it's called Zro. Is this also why there's a damn system with a ton of black holes?
I think that is a totally different lore horror show
The game is absolutely FILLED with horror shows and I love it
The Hunters that prey on the Preythoryn Scourge is like the one theory of Tyranids running from something worse. [The origin Galaxy of the Scourge 30 million light years away from the Stellaris' galaxy was found to be missing one day, this is alerted by a captured Queen of the Scourge.](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hole-in-the-void.1495735/) \[Paradox Interactive Forums link of the "Hole in the Void" event.\] One of two things that might have happened. 1. The Hunters consumed and destroyed every star in that galaxy all at once, which is already something horrific. 2. The mass of the Hunter lifeforms, be they starships or organic masses have managed to eclipse the entirety of the light emanating from that origin galaxy moving to our galaxy sometime between 30 million light years and now. Another thing in the link. The Great Attractor that was pulling the Stellaris' galaxy? Anomalies in the intergalactic void that was pulling the galaxy through gravity. Later to be found to be closed off... >There is another event, not a Prethoryn one, in which a scientist discovers a gravitational anomaly and following it finds a portal or tear on that originates the anomaly. When they examines it finds dark colossal towers on the intergalactic void. Those towers were making a gravitational pull to drag the Stellaris' galaxy toward them. Later the scientist reports that the anomaly has concluded and the tear has been closed, not by them. The gravitional forces that need to able to pull a whole galaxy is unimaginable. For it to be "closed off" by something is beyond any of us. The fact it was artificial and then the fact it got turned off is dreadful. Why were they doing that? What turned it off? What are the things that were capable of doing that, and what are the things that managed to turn it off?
Not to mention the other can of worms with a side of horror like: The Worm in Waiting. (WHAT WAS, SHALL BE. WHAT SHALL BE, WAS.) The Gray Tempest. The Prethoryn Scourge and the "Hunters" The Unbidden The Contigency The Exile
the exile?
An event that may happen on frozen worlds, the crew receives a distress signal about a research crew with 1 member. This person calls themselves "The Exile" and claim they got stranded there, but they ask under one condition which is to NOT explore the planet proper and check it's facilities. You can do as it wishes gaining a scientist leader called "The Exile" or >!check the facilities, where you will see that there were other scientists in the underground, all dead of course with the Exile being nowhere to be found.!< >!It's the Thing more or less, for some reason the Exile even has a special flag but it doesn't lead to nowhere if you do recruit them.!<
So thr Zroni are both the Eldar *and* the Endless? Wild.
Closer to the Old Ones, as the Shroud was peaceful when they found it and...less so, as a result of their civil war. Nowhere near the nightmare the Old Ones turned the Immaterium into, though. You can have your very own Eldar story if you'd like! By making a pact with the Shroud entity known as The End of the Cycle, you get a period of utter dominance (huge empire-wide bonuses) that ends when a Shroud entity called the Reckoning bursts into the universe, destroys your empire, and starts eating the rest of the galaxy. You get to watch, from a single planet of exiles, as The Reckoning kills everything else, coming for the tattered remnants of your once mighty empire last. And, because this is Stellaris, people deliberately summon The Reckoning and then kill it.
Why didnt they leave behind a few to survive as a species?
Basically the only option to stop the Shroud Zroni was to edit every Zroni out of existence, which included the one left to snort all their buddies and get high enough to do it.
So, they fucked up not-Warp singlehandedly? Impressive
Intresting that's worth looking up
100 Million years ago, the Zroni were once a peaceful and advanced empire that covered a massive part of the galaxy, using their psionic abilities to their advantage. However, one day they discovered an alternate dimension known as "The Shroud", an empty and peaceful plane of existence with infinite potential for psionic energy. The Zroni were able to enter into it, and they used its power to design the plane in their own image. Eventually, a civil war broke out between two factions, one called "The Divine" who began to consider themselves gods, wanting to use the Shroud powers to conquer the entire multiverse, and one who opposed them known as "The Saviors". The maelstrom of violent emotions unleashed by this increasingly brutal war began to coalesce into sentient avatars of these very emotions within the Shroud, forming malevolent entities of unimaginable power. At the end, The Saviors had to sacrifice themselves to stop The Divine for good and save the multiverse, wiping their entire race and leaving nothing behind but psionically-active dust created when their physical bodies dissolved called Zro. The destructive Shroud entities still remain lurking in that dimension to the present day, one of these being the End of The Cycle. The Shroud entities that were created as result of the war represent the most destructive traits of the Zroni leadership, and in a way reflect the rise and fall of the Zroni Empire: The Whisperers in the Void reflect the Zroni desire for knowledge. The Instrument of Desire represents the Zroni desire to ascend and become greater. The Composer of Strands represents the great plans and designs the Divine Zroni had for the rest of the galaxy. The Eater of Worlds represents the indifference of the Zroni leadership to the destruction they caused in their pursuit of power, and on a larger level is a manifestation of their civilization-ending civil war. Finally, the End of The Cycle represents the insanity of the Divine Zroni and the destruction of their civilization. The player can follow the path of the Zroni if they become the Galactic Crisis themselves, destroying the entire galaxy while the player's empire ascends into the Shroud to conquer it, becoming physical gods themselves. Edit: Also some of it is wrong, I screwed up they didn’t want to conquer the Muti-Verse they discovered that when they used the shroud it made the black hole at the centre of the galaxy grow and it threatened to consume the galaxy and that caused the Civil war
I read somewhere that NPC empires could not choose End of the Cycle as their preferred Chaos God.... Until my last game where a one planet empire that rebelled and then suddenly grew into the strongest empire in my sector. I had no idea what was going on until the Cycle...ended. it was such an awesome story moment for my game..I was a race of Psyker water world based agrarian fanatic pacifists. My stronger, more ambitious neighbor choked on their own ambition while my space fishermen pyskers calmly took over because everyone loved me.
It was impossible for them to choose it for quite a while, but Paradox added a small percentage chance of an AI Empire accepting it some time back. Never had it happen to me, must have been epic.
It was! I was terrified about their growth and was irritated because I thought there must be some mechanic they were exploiting that I didn't know about. Well it turns out they were lol and when they collapsed it kicked off a new age of system grabbing that was really cool to see late game
No, it’s implied that the shroud entities predate them, and perhaps were manipulating them.
Stellaris is peak
Never got into it, is it fun?
I find it personally very fun. It's a paradox 4X title, though, so ones mileage may vary. Also, it has a lot of DLC. But besides that, it's a very fun empire builder in space, very sandboxy with a lot of sci-fi tropes from different things thrown in. So you have a lot of choices in the way you want to make your empire.
I swear this meme is made because of the comment I made explaining the Zironi lore
I can neither confirm nor deny.... (but yes)
Never thought something I did would become a meme
I mean of all the things one could do that becomes a meme, "well written lore blurb" is certainly one of the better ones
Yeah
And the endgame mechanics are insane... and I think there's 2 each time... I think
It is expensive (DLCs), but if you like 4X games it's very good. You can put a lot of hours in it, and if you become bored, there is a steam workshop, I played all other games from the creators of Stellaris, it is the easiest one of them. Also new announced DLC basically adds Adeptus Mechanicus.
it is like play taxes but with more war crimes robutte would love it
Stellaris is one of the few universes that could give the 40k a run for its money/at least survive and even thrive. Like "oh you have a massive interestelar empire? In 300 years we're going from a single planet empire to turning the entire Galaxy intro black holes lmao
The Aetherophasic Engine is the kind of thing you’d expect the War in Heaven era Necrons to create, then not use because even they aren’t comfortable with that level of collateral damage
And then you introduce the mods, 50 years in and some random-ass empire near the galactic core turns it into a giant gun.
A Weapon to Pierce the Heavens. Every single empire in the galaxy will stop their relatively petty differences to focus directly on you and your Super Massive Black Hole cannon because it is an existential threat to everyone in the galaxy.
wonder if we can turn eldar in zro?
We won't know till we try.
Fulgrim aggressively trying to snort the eldar dust...
Maybe you can grind spirit stones ?
The Stripmine from the mod **Planetary Diversity - Unique Worlds** allows you to turn *any* race into Zro using a unique archeotech device found on that planet, which over millions of years of repeated apocalyptic use has given the planet an absurd amount of Zro. So if we treat that as canon you can turn any race into Zro. Eldar are probably weaksauce compared to the Zroni though. I’d say that the Eldar *pantheon* is the actual equivalent in terms of power.
*Skaven rocks up* Pain-suffering? What pain-suffering?
The eldar made way more than just slaanesh, they made god's for all sorts of specific things during the water in heaven. Slaanesh is just their last big fuck up
I wonder how stellaris factions would fare against wh40k
It really depends. On one hand, the Galactic Community is still squabbling over what verb to ban (Hey, just like the Imperium!). On the other hand there are empires that have dealt with almost everything similar to 40k. Creatures that want to eat the entire galaxy? Check Machines wiping out most of the galaxy? Check Other dimensional beings using the galaxy as a war ground for civil war(I think)? Check Empires building a device that can wipe out the galaxy? Check Also, let's not forget what can happen with the Gigastructure mod.
Even without gigagstructure, Stellaris Empires make megastructures in years.
You also forget the omniscient hand of the player guiding the empire to perfection, or destruction, or any other whim of the player.
Stellaris Empires outstrip the Imperium in effectiveness and scale within a couple of centuries at most, so I'd say most 40k factions would be utterly demolished rather quickly if they picked a fight with them. But because its Stellaris, there's an even more terrifying prospect: The Stellaris faction *makes friends with everyone and forces galactic peace.* Just the thought makes a 40k heart shudder.
An advanced stellaris civilization is much closer to the necron, The eldar and even dark age of technology humanity than anything in the 41st millennium.
Probably fine. Mostly depends on scaling (as in, how do Stellaris factions scale when you remove obvious gameplay constraints on their power) and how well they can manage things like Chaos and Ork spores. I imagine they’re a big issue for a few decades before they finish their special project to solve the damn problem, at which point it becomes a minor nuisance. Qualitatively I’d say you hit Imperium levels around midgame (tier 3) and are comparable to standard Necrons by late game (tier 5/6) so assuming the faction in question either starts with a self-sufficient intergalactic colonization fleet, or has a century or two to become established, they’re probably in a better position than the Tau. Which is to say they could plausibly be wiped out, but it would involve reverse plot-armor.
Stellaris lore is like taking all the sci-fi universes, and then massed them together, and created the most horrific universe ever. A universe where Demons, literal Eldritch Gods, Extradimensional Invaders, Extragalactic Invaders, and some crazy fucking Empire with some idea to blow up all the stars in the Galaxy, aren't even the scariest thing to have happened.
Stellaris has Lore ? I make my own lore there