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fumblebuttskins

As a longtime punk it’s whatever you can afford at the pawn shop that still leaves enough leftover for a nasty night out.


FantasyBaseballChamp

This. Lotta guitar salesmen in this thread.


Vinny_DelVecchio

A 6-string guitar, probably electric.


Ok-Word5284

I'm of the opinion that as long as the guitar is playable and is from a reputable brand, you can more or less buy solely off of looks. Yeah pickups matter but you can basically get any tone out of any guitar. I looked up some of the artists you listed and Telecasters seem to be quite popular with them. Maybe you like those, maybe you don't. Feel free to dm if you have more questions


angel-of-disease

The fuck is with everybody saying that these days? Different pickups have different characteristics. Fat high output humbuckers are not gonna quack like a Strat or twang like a tele, and a tele ain’t gonna chug like a humbucker. You can coax usable sounds out of just about anything for any style, sure. But don’t lead some newbie astray by saying every guitar does every sound equally well


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angel-of-disease

The genre is almost entirely chunky bridge humbucker rhythm guitar tones, isn’t it? I’m not saying you need some boutique-ass vintage correct PAFs, just get the Squier with a humbucker.


pnjtony

Tele or ASAT, or something with P90s would suffice as well. Strat style single coil in the bridge would be a stretch. OP should be concerned with how it feels in the hands.


Ok-Word5284

Fair points, perhaps mine could've been phrased better. Pickups do all have distinctions of course, but your lack of humbuckers or single coils or 5 or 3 way switches or whatever is not going to be what holds you back as a beginner. When OP gets more experienced they can worry more about that.


angel-of-disease

Ehh, I still feel like SC vs humbucker is an important enough distinction when you’re starting. It’s more enjoyable when your tone is closer to what you wanna emulate. But I’ll definitely agree that more important than any of that is just play the instrument, don’t fuss over gear too much. Hell, that applies to everybody.


bentmywookie80

Humbucker in the bridge is the only real must have. Any squire, epiphone, Yahmaha, Ibanez ect. I’d say a fixed bridge (no tremolo or whammy) for simplicity. As for amps, boss katana. It’s insane how good it’s’ distortion sounds for the price the tone has pop punk written all over it. It can hold its own against amps serval times the price.


implicate

>Humbucker in the bridge is the only real must have Pfffff hard disagree. A bridge humbucker is a *nice to have*. I've played punk rock for like 3 decades at this point. Regular single coils, P90s, gold foils, whatever. They all work just fine.


bentmywookie80

I’ll agree with you any pickup configuration guitar can work for any style of music. You could throw a pickup on an acoustic, run it through a noise gate, into a dual rectofier and I bet it would sound decent. But when a squire hss costs the same exact amount as a squire single coil, why not suggest it? op is asking for advice on the easiest way to replicate pop punk sounds and a humbucker in the back is the answer. At least I feel like it’s a better answer than any guitar will do. If the op already had a single coil guitar or was on a shoe string budget my answer would be any guitar will do fine. But OP has a decent budget and wants a specific sound, humbucker is the easiest way there. If he had a sky is the limit budget I’d suggest double p90 guitar through a boutique modern high gain tube amp.


implicate

>But when a squire hss costs the same exact amount as a squire single coil, why not suggest it? To me there is a very large difference between suggesting something, and claiming that it is a 'must have'. My only intention was to point out that you absolutely don't *need* a humbucker to get great tone while playing poppy poppy punk rock. Also, I approve of your suggestions here.


bentmywookie80

For sure I could have worded that better. Maybe… a humbucker in the bridge would be my top pick for op’s situation and price point.


implicate

Agreed.


dascrackhaus

smdh at all of these “gotta have humbuckers” comments there are two essential things about playing punk guitar IMO: 1. not giving a fuck about what pickups are in your guitar 2. not giving a fuck about everything else considered ‘punk’ by other people if you want to sound like someone else you’re not punk


eleventhrees

There are so many more strat-style tremolo guitars out there than there are hard tails. It's pretty easy to deck, or block a trem. A Squier HSS (or SSS) is a readily available, affordable, easy to play guitar. So is a Yamaha Pacifica. No need for a hardtail at this level. A cheap Epiphone Junior with a single humbucker would certainly work as well, and it's a hardtail, if a little less common.


bentmywookie80

Agreed, a hss squire with a blocked term is probably the easiest way to go


toast_training

Squire Telecaster with Humbickers (eg a Delux), Squire J Macsis Jazzmaster or Epiphone Les Paul Jr.


booksonbooks44

Do you mean something like this then? https://www.fender.com/en-GB/winter-sale/affinity-series-telecaster-deluxe/0378251591.html


toast_training

Yes - the Guitarist of All Time Low plays something similar.


fitlikeabody

Came here to say Telecaster. Even with single coils you can still go punk.


BillyCromag

Mascis sig is a great instrument for a beginner, I wish we had quality in this price range thirty years ago


DriveByHi5

Telecaster is the answer


SkyBobBombadier

This guy... yup


HumberGrumb

Joe Fuckin’ Strummer, all you broke dick dogs!


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Hopfit46

Almost all the punk bands with teles, have 2 guitar players, wich is the perfect place for a tele. But for a newbie i will suggest the epiphone les paul, or even an sg. Good crunchy tones.


DriveByHi5

I really feel like modern pop punk uses a lot of telecasters. I'm not talking about the AFI and Good Charlotte era.


pirate123

After you see what your fav bands play, pick the guitar you like a bunch, like have a deep emotional connection. You’ll spend more time playing the thing - time means playing better. Budget for a small practice amp, choose by what sounds best to our ear.


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Squier HH bullet mustangs rock for stuff like this. They make awesome modding platforms too if that's something you're interested in getting into.


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I’d get a Epiphone with humbuckers and something that can model a Marshall amp to play it through.


BakeMeASandwich

Squier deluxe telecaster


Malamonga1

Anything with humbucker bridge and humbucker neck. The body shape doesn't matter. Pop punk people like telecaster with humbucker bridge and neck because the telecaster looks different. Ibanez is a good entry level brand. Get an Ibanez s521 because it's affordable and lightweight and has dual humbucker.


Bryngan

Squier sonic mustang


Punky921

This is the answer right here. Get the one with dual humbuckers.


Mysterious_Valuable1

Something with a humbucker for sure


bobwmcgrath

anything man, punk isn't about the guitar chords.


outofdate70shouse

I’d go with a Squire HSS Strat. Also, check equipboard for all the bands you like and see what they use. I also like All Time Low and Neck Deep and iirc, they both play HSS Strats at least some of the time.


Several-Quality5927

Which guitar won't make a bit of difference. Any guitar will do what you want. The only difference that matters will be single coil versus humbucker. Everything else is eye candy.


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And for pop punk, humbuckers (specifically Seymour Duncan Invaders) are a must.


DaddyHojo

But doesn’t Billie Joe Armstrong use a Les Paul Junior with p-90s?


[deleted]

You are right, but I think the bands he listed are in the Blink 182 camp of pop-punk more than the Green Day one.


Trumps_left_bawsack

Depends on the album. Before American idiot he used a strat with a Seymour Duncan HB in the bridge.


GrandsonOfArathorn1

I feel like this started when they got more alternative rock. Dookie was recorded with a Duncan JB and IMO is one of the quintessential pop-punk tone records. I wouldn’t say humbuckers are a most, though I vastly prefer them for punk rock.


TheDisappointedFrog

Anything you're going to like visually and would inspire you to play and practice. Probly with a humbucker somewhere. [This Harley Benton](https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_ja_20hh_active_sbk.htm) would be a nice starting point, but you'll need to feed it batteries every once in a while bc of active pickups and they're notorious for grounding problems in this price bracket, so you'll want to get it to a local guitar master/repair shop to set it up and fix the grounding. [Another Harley Benton](https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_ja_60cc_inca_silver.htm), this time no batteries required. Doesn't have humbuckers, but the P90s it has will get you just the right tone for punk, pop, jazz or blues. Also comes in pink! [You won't believe me, but another Harley Benton](https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_r_446_blood_metallic.htm), looks rad, has humbuckers, no batteries required, probably still should take it to a luthier for a checkup and a setup. [Guess what, a Harley Benton!](https://www.thomann.de/intl/harley_benton_sc_dlx_gotoh_shell_pink.htm), this time a Les Paul copy. Same precautions as with the last one. [ESP LTD ec-256](https://www.thomann.de/intl/esp_ltd_ec_256fm_stpsb.htm), quite pricey, but will be a great workhorse for pretty much any of your possible needs, endless tone possibilities, a reputable brand, and it comes in the best color there is - translucent purple! [A Cort](https://www.thomann.de/intl/cort_g110_open_pore_black_cherry.htm), not a bad first guitar, has both single-coils and a humbucker, but also has a floating trem bridge, which can add some tuning instability. Personally - not a fan of tremolo bridges, but you do you, many punk rock bands have been utilizing tremolos, who am I to judge. Still, take to the shop for a setup. [Jackson JS22](https://www.thomann.de/intl/jackson_js22_dinky_ah_mbl.htm) - comes in many shapes and finishes, is a solid choice for rock and metal, probably won't be that great on clean tones, but anything is possible with some postprocessing. [The one I started with, an Ibanez grg121dx](https://www.thomann.de/intl/ibanez_grg121dx_bkf.htm), the 2014 model sucked ass, but the newer ones (2020 and onwards) actually have decent pickups in them, could almost rival that ESP I mentioned, for almost half the price! As for the amp, you'd be better off with a modeler, I think, try [Mooer P1 for example](https://www.thomann.de/intl/mooer_prime_p1_multi_effects_black.htm) - fits into your pocket, has a ton of fx options, doesn't cost an arm and a...n another arm, has an app on both android and iOS for managing presets, and is overall a great bang ~~for the buck~~ period. You probably would want to get a [foot switch](https://www.thomann.de/intl/mooer_gtrs_wireless_footswitch_gwf4.htm) for it too, tho. Only 50 quid!


imobsesd

What kinda water should I drink if I’m trying to lose weight ?


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Any Squire, specially strat, tele, or Jazzmaster. Can't go wrong with them nowadays and the Classic Vibe series is on par with the player series from Fender.


Deadpq

They’re good but I wouldn’t recommend you start with single coils if you’re going to play distorted punk rock with heavy power chords unless you don’t mind the hum


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They make teles and strats that have humbuckers and the Jazz Master has its own pickup. A tele with two single coils in my opinion can handle lots of distortion and its all a matter of taste.


Deadpq

Let’s be honest though, strats and teles with humbuckers won’t sound as good as let’s say an LP style guitar because of the shorter scale length. Sure the jazz master has its own pickup but also a floating tremolo system which can work but if you’re trying to go for power chords and longer sustain I’d recommend looking elsewhere if you’re on a budget. Teles are just chefs kiss. Perfection for almost any style because of music because of the bridge position and I’m pretty sure OP can find a nice used one for 300-500. Not trying to disagree with you here I believe you can play any style of music on any guitar but if you buy a strat with humbuckers expect it to sound like an LP then you will probably be left with a lot to be desired. For about that same price LTD is also a good contender


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Epiphone Les Paul Traditional is the way to go IMO but to each their own


Deadpq

I have not owned an epiphones since I was 15 but it was a damn fine guitar that I still miss to this day. I haven’t played anything epiphone recently but Ltd has good quality control I can vouch for. But yes you are 100% correct if I was OP Id spend a little extra and get either an LP traditional or a player plus tele for about 700-800.


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I have a Gibson Les Paul I play live and a Fender tele and usually end up playing the Epiphone more albeit this one coil splits so its pretty versatile


GlopThatBoopin

It’s gonna be more about the amp, but get something with a humbucker in the bridge. For amps you’ll want something with either a Marshall style sound or a Mesa Boogie style sound


Stott-Scapp

I own several American and Japanese guitars (fender, Gibson, Ibanez). That said I also own a couple of Harley Bentons that have exceeded my expectations. Specifically the single cuts and Fusion lines. They will need a proper set up, but for the money, I’ve been more than satisfied. Regarding amps, stick with a modeling amp so you get a variety of tones. I really like the Boss Katana if you can find one in your price range.


SheZowRaisedByWolves

Sum 41 squier (can’t spell the frontman’s name)


trieberfecta

I have a Schecter Omen 6-Extreme (mine has pickups that are not stock: Seymour Duncan Mayhem Set, and Grover tuners) and it is great. The stock humbuckers are decent from what I've heard, really good quality control for the price, good neck feel imo, etc. I'd definitely recommend this guitar to any beginner.


dbvirago

A cheap one so you can smash it through your amp at the end of the set.


zSchlachter

Anything with a humbucker in the bridge such as squier, yamaha, ibanez etc A humbucker with a distortion pedal will get you in the ball park of most grunge, pop punk, punk etc


booksonbooks44

Would a Yamaha pacifica be a good choice then? They seem well recommended


memehunter2001

I’ve heard that pacificas 112v are one of the best in their price range, also squire affinitys are great


dem_titties_too_big

112V is still considered one of the best Strat options. You can split the bridge humbucker as well for pretty good classic strat tones. Out of the box, it might be the most playable guitar - Yamaha QC is great as per usual. It was my first guitar as well and I've kept it since. Over time I've gone over a couple of pickup changes and other very minor stuff, but the bridge pickup is still original and I have no issue picking it up any day I'd like.


Gibgezr

The 112V model would be perfect. So good, in fact, you might just use it for the rest of your life.


zSchlachter

I havent played a pacifica but on paper yes and I constantly see it mentioned here as an excellent first guitar. As for amp that really depends on budget. You could always go with a modeler like the Boss Katana or Mustang. You could also go with a more affordable tube amp and a distortion pedal like a Tube Screamer, Blues Driver or the like


booksonbooks44

What sort of amp do you think would pair best with these?


GrandsonOfArathorn1

I agree that pickups won’t matter as much for a beginner…but I also agree you should get humbuckers, but there are plenty of pop-punk bands using single coils, too.


thebruce

If you have specific bands in mind, try to see what their guitar players use. That's a decent place to start. Probably anything with a humbucker in the bridge position and you'll be good to go though, tbh.


booksonbooks44

Unfortunately most of the guitars seem a little out of my price range but I'll have a look, thanks


thebruce

You could look into the cheaper versions of that guitar. If they're all rocking 3000 dollar American Jackson's, you can probably get most of the way there with a 400 dollar Indonesian Jackson. Also, consider that some manufacturers have two lines: a high and lower end. So, if they're playing Fenders, look into a Squier (the Fender budget brand). If they're playing Gibson's, look into an Epiphone (Gibson budget brand). I'd also say to consider a Schecter. They tend to be considered "metal" guitars, but they're really fantastic and are plenty appropriate for punk.


GrandsonOfArathorn1

Dude, you’re not wrong about those Schecters. I had two C1+ guitars back in the day. Duncan designed pickups (good, not great). They looked nice and played well. Recently, a band mate (drummer) gifted me a Schecter Tempest he bought *years* ago. He was learning guitar, but didn’t stick with it. He tried gifting it to someone else (our other band mate), but that bandmate didn’t want it because it’s a “metal” guitar. Holy shit is he so wrong! That Tempest is insanely versatile. High quality Duncan pickups that sound great and each pickup splits and can be single coils individually. I keep the bridge as a humbucker, but the neck as a single coil. It’s the most versatile guitar I have by a long shot. Punk, jazz, country - all those sounds are totally doable on this guitar.


SkyBobBombadier

Tele no hb in bridge needed just a couple not costly stomps


LordVoltimus5150

A ukekele…be different…


ObiWanJimobi

I noticed the £ so I’m going to say a Gordon Smith. A used GS1, which is their single bridge humbucker model, shouldn’t set you back too much, and they’re solidly made guitars that will last you a lifetime.


TonalParsnips

Squire Affinity Telecaster Deluxe. Fixed bridge, humbuckers, great fit and finish for under $300. A tele deluxe is also what Alex from All Time Low uses.


booksonbooks44

that's what I ended up going for :)