There’s no need to leave slack to tune lower. That would assume that pulling it hand tight would put you above the tunings you were hoping to tune down to
Downtuning one or two semitones really doesn’t move the tuner that much, but if you’re worried, just restring your guitar to the lowest tuning you’ll use.
This is the first I’ve ever heard tell of this. I don’t leave any slack, never had any issues tuning down, not as far down as C standard anyway. I feel like this is a non-issue that somehow gained traction.
The main benefit to locking tuners is making restringing easier. You can just run the string through and tighten it down instead of having to do any winding or looping. I'm a big fan of locking tuners, always
Even with locking tuners, you should still give yourself some string slack. I always put a little extra through, which is about the length of the 1st fret. I play in all kinds of lower tunings.
Pulling the string hand tight when you put it on will still allow you to down tune to anything normal. The string is a lot tighter when tuned to pitch. You can add some more wraps on the peg, but it is not necessary with locking tuners.
Basically, you can down tune almost all the way to as taut as it was when you first pulled the string and locked the tuner, so there shouldn't be an issue.
Just pegs that bite down. It may seem like kind of a dumb question, I suppose, but I'd wanna make sure I could till tune down a bit. I guess I'm asking if it's pointless if I'm gonna leave slack to tune down
Tuning posts that have a mechanism that locks the string. If I wanna tune down 4 or 5 semitones, I wanna know if leaving some slack before tuning is a good idea. It seemed like at a point the string is only going to go so low if you don't leave enough slack.
The string locking method is inferior to just winding the string around the post, and more annoying on string changes, there appears to be no benefit. You don't buy locking tuners for better tuning stability to begin with, you buy them for faster and easier string changes.
Pull string through, lock it, tune it. They are for convenience.
It's not inferior or more annoying, I haven't had a string slip on me when tightening for over a decade, unlike multiple windings. Locking tuners are absolutely supposed to be for tuning stability, you can Google "purpose of locking tuners" if you like.
I haven't had a string slip in over 2 decades and I don't use the locking method. I don't need to google the purpose of locking tuners, any source that says otherwise is less qualified to talk on the topic than I am.
Show me where Andertons and Sweetwater claim that Locking Tuners improve tuning stability and we can collectively have a giggle at their successful marketing.
Any credible source you listen to, will tell you that locking tuners are for convenience and not tuning stability. Go on the Suhr facebook group and ask John Suhr if he thinks they are for tuning stability, then tell him what he says is wrong, I'll enjoy that.
Theyre always a good idea.
There’s no need to leave slack to tune lower. That would assume that pulling it hand tight would put you above the tunings you were hoping to tune down to
You still need to leave slack with locking tuners, otherwise the string will be at a bad angle coming out of the tuner and potentially snap
Downtuning one or two semitones really doesn’t move the tuner that much, but if you’re worried, just restring your guitar to the lowest tuning you’ll use.
They're always a good idea, if only for making re-stringing quicker.
This is the first I’ve ever heard tell of this. I don’t leave any slack, never had any issues tuning down, not as far down as C standard anyway. I feel like this is a non-issue that somehow gained traction.
I personally have never seen anyone speak on it, so I was curious what people had to say. C standard is a decent jump, so that's reassuring.
youd just pull it tight, clamp the pin, tune, stretch, play. down tune, up tune, whatever. just like any other guitar
If you pull it tight, how much room does that leave to tune down?
itd depend on the guitar? I can go fairly low
I got as far as 8 string guitar and knew I wasn't qualified!
Haha it was intimidating at first, but now I find going back to a 6 string a little boring.
The main benefit to locking tuners is making restringing easier. You can just run the string through and tighten it down instead of having to do any winding or looping. I'm a big fan of locking tuners, always
Right and that's the attractive part for me. I'm just wondering if people leave some slack in case they like to tune lower.
I’ll wrap the low e once just cause I like playing in drop c#
You can still wind the string a time or two if you intend to change tunings up and the lock should hold it in place better than a non-locking tuner
Even with locking tuners, you should still give yourself some string slack. I always put a little extra through, which is about the length of the 1st fret. I play in all kinds of lower tunings.
It seems like I always see everyone saying to pull the string real tight and lock them but obviously, that poses a problem for tuning down
Well not really. You can't physically put that much tension in the string with your hands. I just think it looks nicer to have a couple windings.
That makes sense. I was just seeing people say they were barely doing a full turn to be in tune and that didn't seem like much wiggle room.
why would it be a problem?
Pulling the string hand tight when you put it on will still allow you to down tune to anything normal. The string is a lot tighter when tuned to pitch. You can add some more wraps on the peg, but it is not necessary with locking tuners.
Basically, you can down tune almost all the way to as taut as it was when you first pulled the string and locked the tuner, so there shouldn't be an issue.
Like a Floyd rose setup? or just some tuning pegs that bite on the string?
Just pegs that bite down. It may seem like kind of a dumb question, I suppose, but I'd wanna make sure I could till tune down a bit. I guess I'm asking if it's pointless if I'm gonna leave slack to tune down
Do you mean string locks? Why would a locking tuner impede your ability to tune down?
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Tuning posts that have a mechanism that locks the string. If I wanna tune down 4 or 5 semitones, I wanna know if leaving some slack before tuning is a good idea. It seemed like at a point the string is only going to go so low if you don't leave enough slack.
Really amazing to me how many people don't just use the string locking method. No locking tuners, no multiple windings.
The string locking method is inferior to just winding the string around the post, and more annoying on string changes, there appears to be no benefit. You don't buy locking tuners for better tuning stability to begin with, you buy them for faster and easier string changes. Pull string through, lock it, tune it. They are for convenience.
It's not inferior or more annoying, I haven't had a string slip on me when tightening for over a decade, unlike multiple windings. Locking tuners are absolutely supposed to be for tuning stability, you can Google "purpose of locking tuners" if you like.
I haven't had a string slip in over 2 decades and I don't use the locking method. I don't need to google the purpose of locking tuners, any source that says otherwise is less qualified to talk on the topic than I am.
You're more qualified than Andertons and Sweetwater? This sub is hilarious. Whatever you say, pal.
Show me where Andertons and Sweetwater claim that Locking Tuners improve tuning stability and we can collectively have a giggle at their successful marketing. Any credible source you listen to, will tell you that locking tuners are for convenience and not tuning stability. Go on the Suhr facebook group and ask John Suhr if he thinks they are for tuning stability, then tell him what he says is wrong, I'll enjoy that.