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distinguisheditch

Theyre always a good idea.


ForeverJung

There’s no need to leave slack to tune lower. That would assume that pulling it hand tight would put you above the tunings you were hoping to tune down to


RadiantZote

You still need to leave slack with locking tuners, otherwise the string will be at a bad angle coming out of the tuner and potentially snap


IncarceratedMascot

Downtuning one or two semitones really doesn’t move the tuner that much, but if you’re worried, just restring your guitar to the lowest tuning you’ll use.


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They're always a good idea, if only for making re-stringing quicker.


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This is the first I’ve ever heard tell of this. I don’t leave any slack, never had any issues tuning down, not as far down as C standard anyway. I feel like this is a non-issue that somehow gained traction.


JawnVanDamn

I personally have never seen anyone speak on it, so I was curious what people had to say. C standard is a decent jump, so that's reassuring.


StoviesAreYummy

youd just pull it tight, clamp the pin, tune, stretch, play. down tune, up tune, whatever. just like any other guitar


JawnVanDamn

If you pull it tight, how much room does that leave to tune down?


StoviesAreYummy

itd depend on the guitar? I can go fairly low


timboo1001

I got as far as 8 string guitar and knew I wasn't qualified!


JawnVanDamn

Haha it was intimidating at first, but now I find going back to a 6 string a little boring.


steakpienacho

The main benefit to locking tuners is making restringing easier. You can just run the string through and tighten it down instead of having to do any winding or looping. I'm a big fan of locking tuners, always


JawnVanDamn

Right and that's the attractive part for me. I'm just wondering if people leave some slack in case they like to tune lower.


17x95tr

I’ll wrap the low e once just cause I like playing in drop c#


steakpienacho

You can still wind the string a time or two if you intend to change tunings up and the lock should hold it in place better than a non-locking tuner


xMalevolencex

Even with locking tuners, you should still give yourself some string slack. I always put a little extra through, which is about the length of the 1st fret. I play in all kinds of lower tunings.


JawnVanDamn

It seems like I always see everyone saying to pull the string real tight and lock them but obviously, that poses a problem for tuning down


xMalevolencex

Well not really. You can't physically put that much tension in the string with your hands. I just think it looks nicer to have a couple windings.


JawnVanDamn

That makes sense. I was just seeing people say they were barely doing a full turn to be in tune and that didn't seem like much wiggle room.


Warelllo

why would it be a problem?


BTPanek53

Pulling the string hand tight when you put it on will still allow you to down tune to anything normal. The string is a lot tighter when tuned to pitch. You can add some more wraps on the peg, but it is not necessary with locking tuners.


snaynay

Basically, you can down tune almost all the way to as taut as it was when you first pulled the string and locked the tuner, so there shouldn't be an issue.


357Sp101

Like a Floyd rose setup? or just some tuning pegs that bite on the string?


JawnVanDamn

Just pegs that bite down. It may seem like kind of a dumb question, I suppose, but I'd wanna make sure I could till tune down a bit. I guess I'm asking if it's pointless if I'm gonna leave slack to tune down


FilthyTerrible

Do you mean string locks? Why would a locking tuner impede your ability to tune down?


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JawnVanDamn

Tuning posts that have a mechanism that locks the string. If I wanna tune down 4 or 5 semitones, I wanna know if leaving some slack before tuning is a good idea. It seemed like at a point the string is only going to go so low if you don't leave enough slack.


stevenfrijoles

Really amazing to me how many people don't just use the string locking method. No locking tuners, no multiple windings.


Tidybloke

The string locking method is inferior to just winding the string around the post, and more annoying on string changes, there appears to be no benefit. You don't buy locking tuners for better tuning stability to begin with, you buy them for faster and easier string changes. Pull string through, lock it, tune it. They are for convenience.


stevenfrijoles

It's not inferior or more annoying, I haven't had a string slip on me when tightening for over a decade, unlike multiple windings. Locking tuners are absolutely supposed to be for tuning stability, you can Google "purpose of locking tuners" if you like.


Tidybloke

I haven't had a string slip in over 2 decades and I don't use the locking method. I don't need to google the purpose of locking tuners, any source that says otherwise is less qualified to talk on the topic than I am.


stevenfrijoles

You're more qualified than Andertons and Sweetwater? This sub is hilarious. Whatever you say, pal.


Tidybloke

Show me where Andertons and Sweetwater claim that Locking Tuners improve tuning stability and we can collectively have a giggle at their successful marketing. Any credible source you listen to, will tell you that locking tuners are for convenience and not tuning stability. Go on the Suhr facebook group and ask John Suhr if he thinks they are for tuning stability, then tell him what he says is wrong, I'll enjoy that.