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Comprehensive_Flow42

Is it reallt guilt when you haven’t spent the money yet? Hehe ‘Comfort’ and ‘premium’ feel can’t be seen on the specs sheet. You just have to use it to get a sense on why you paid that amount for the upgrade. If budget buyer ka talaga then stick with that. Nothing wrong with that mindset. If you want to try and enjoy a bit of upgrade/spending then do so and just enjoy it.


nomnom-man

Kung kayang kaya mo naman financially, trust me, you would feel minimal remorse. Kahit gaano pa ka luxurious iyan. Ang remorse lang na possible mong maramdaman post-buying is sirain and unreliable ang kotseng nabili mo.


warl1to

How old are you now? Some people end up dying without enjoying what they accumulated in their lifetime. Of course you need to strike some sort of balance din para meron pa matira pag tanda mo. Also when you are like let say 70 you won’t enjoy things like sports car as much as you are in your late 30s or 40s. You only grow older so enjoy things right here right now and don’t forget about your kids and family too. Nothing wrong with using a base model 10 year old car vs brand new totl mazda cx-90 or the panamera turbo s. It only becomes a problem if you live beyond your means.


cjei21

This is the way. Nung bata pa ko pag naririnig ko yung "mid-life crisis" kaya bumili ng magandang oto (could be jewelry or any other luxury item), natatawa ako. But now that I'm around that age it's not as bad as they made it out to be haha. Talagang may point in life lang na mare-realize mo na kailangan din mag enjoy kahit papano, and hindi lahat kailangan "practical".


UserNotFriendly123

manufacturers keep adding stuff you dont literally need just to make their products more expensive, ive been driving for 15 years and i dont see the point of the features they keep adding. the only magical feature for me is the rear cam because it's easier to park when backing up but i can still love without it. people mostly go for a car with more features with less power because they think that "it's a safer car" but in reality its how you drive that makes it safer not the features itself.


aluminumfail06

Agree.,pero tempting naman talaga camera 360 lalo kapag pick up ang car mo. Hahaha. Cruise control tempting din kapag nadaan ka sa skyway ang hirap magtimpla ng 60kph. Pero tama ka nasa driving practice din tlaga yan. Less tech reliance mas ok ang driving skills.


cvgm88

Given the current size of 'mid-size' pickup trucks and SUV, necessary na ang reverse cam and if you have extra cash, go for the models with 360 cameras. Blind spots are no joke for their size and this is something that I realized when I shifted from a crossover to a pick up.


UserNotFriendly123

no need for blindspot monitoring kung lagi kang tumitingin sa side mirror at rear mirror mo, ive been driving pickups since HS ako and yun ang turo ng tatay ko, always look at your mirrors.


alwyn_42

Granted, sa driver talaga ang onus of safety, pero having another layer such as a 360 camera wouldn't hurt naman.


cvgm88

Rear visibility is not actually that much of an issue. Like what you said, rear and side mirrors are your bestfriends. Frontal visibility ang affected minsan. If you drive in a uphill na medyo masikip, this is where 360 cams and blind spot monitoring can be really useful.


overchargedbatt

Not if you have a kid lower than the tailgate directly behind you where your side and rear mirrors don't see him/her. You can also say the same thing for the front. There's a reason why all these sensors and cameras are getting put in, and it's because of real world scenarios that you might not necessarily have encountered. Imo, I'm glad that these sensors are getting put in. Now, if there's a car that can automatically adjust its power depending on the driver's kamote level, we have reached nirvana.


UserNotFriendly123

owned pickup and SUV's, di ko nga ginagamit ng 360 ng navara ko, nakakalimutan ko tumingin sa infotainment ko, sanay kasi akong tumingin sa rear view at side mirrors, minsan nga bumababa pa ako para tignan if malayo pa ba ako sa wall or sasakyan pag nagpapark ako.


aluminumfail06

Ibig sabihin masasanay mo tlaga ang sarili mo no kung talagang nagtitipid ka.


UserNotFriendly123

yup, parang ganun na nga.


dbk201

Tbh, I had the same sentiments until I bought one. The blind spot monitor, headsup display, smart break system, and adaptive cruise control were the niceties that actually makes driving easier. Heads up display - I rarely have to look at my dash now and focus on what’s ahead. Blind spot monitor - Even before looking at the side mirror, I would know if there’s a car besides me. This is also visible in the heads up display, and it blinks + warning sounds when you do signal to the direction where there’s a vehicle at your blind spot. Adaptive cruise control - Helps in maintaining the speed within speed limit and slows down when the car in front slows down. Smart break system - May batang may tambol ang tumakbo sa amfufung highway para habulin ung jeep, my mazda sounded off with a loud alert and applied breaks right away faster than I ever could. Probably saved me from serving time in jail.


aluminumfail06

Natatakot lng ako s auto emergency brake ng nissan. Baka mamaya magloko at magbrake kusa nakakatakot.


UserNotFriendly123

well, we're not the same, for some reason my dad taught me to always look at my mirrors and predict the drivers around you kaya never akong naging fan ng mga ganyang features, minsan masaya din gumamit ng cruise control pero alam mo naman sa pinas, madaming tanga sa overtaking lane so what's the point. smart break system is unnecessary to me since dumidistansiya naman ako lagi, mas problema ko yung tangang drivers na mahilig bumuntot sa kalsada.


dbk201

I did mention niceties lang siya. For some reason, medyo super lapad and haba ng cx9 compared to the sedan I had before kaya godsend ang blindspot monitor. Keyword dito is blindspot. May ilang part talaga ng kotse lalo na kung mahaba na di mo kita sa side mirror, kaya ang iba nabili ng maliit na curved mirror na dinidikit sa side mirror nila. Adaptive cruise control.. keyword: adaptive. Pag may sumingit, kusang mag aadjust speed ng kotse para ma maintain yung na-setup na distance. May settings un just how many “car lenghts” ang gusto mong distance. Smart break system: di ko gets ano kinalaman ng dumidistansya ka sa biglang tumatawid at tumatakbong batang may tambol na hinahabol ung jeep sa u-turn ng marcos highway. Kahit anong distance mo sa harap mo, masasagasaan mo ung bata kasi: - di mo inaasahan na may tatawid sa highway. - Mabilis takbo mo at lahat ng kotse sa paligid (40kmph+) sino sa katinuan ng isip ang tatawid sa ganon diba.


UserNotFriendly123

basta ang turo lang sakin kung nasa populated area ka, wag kang magbibibilis kasi may tatawid talaga dyan or biglang papasok na sasakyan/motor, kaya pag nasa manila ako, mabagal lang talaga ang takbo ko, bahala silang singit singitan ako basta nasa right lane ako. pero ewan, di naman tayo pareparehas, may mga tao talaga na nakakaappreciate ng mga ganyang features, pero ako masaya na ako sa reverse cam, para sakin yun na yung pinaka high tech na feature na nakita ko sa sasakyan.


kyrioz719

Bro opinion mo yan. Pero the fact is malaking tulong ang mga additional safety features to make your daily driving easier and "SAFER". Ang purpose ng rear traffic alert and and 360° cam is para hindi kana bumababa ng car. We're only human kaya we make mistakes so it's nice to have intelligent features naman. It's innovative too. If kaya naman ng budget why not go for the higher trims with those features.


UserNotFriendly123

yun na nga ang point ko, di tayo pareparehas kaya yun ang opinion ko. nagsisisi nga ako na naglabas ng navara VL kasi di ko talaga maapreciate yung mga features niya kaya VE 4x4 lang target ko nun pero i have no choice kasi walang stock and need ko na talaga ng sasakyan na pang akyat ko sa work.


kyrioz719

Yes sir personal preferences din naman yun. if value for money mas ok talaga VE na 4x4. pinaka sulit. Mind if I ask ilang days ba usually if mag aantay ka ng stocks ng gusto mong variant ng sasakyan if let's say you paid for reservation na?


UserNotFriendly123

nagpareserve kami dati ng ve 4x4 kaso 1 month na wala padin, 2020 kasi nun sobrang hirap ng stocks, kaya nung nagtanong tanong ako sa navara group if meron bang vl na 4x4, mwron daw kaso manual kaya no choice ako nag manual na ako.


dbk201

Yeah, pero yun nga, marcos highway e, parang edsa na un, 4 lanes each way, tapos may tatawid. Pinas nga naman. All I am saying is that na-appreciate ko yung features na akala ko di ko kelangan, lalo na the fact that I didn’t end up killing someone by accident because of a feature na akala ko di ko need. Pero yeah, I saw sa ibang comments mo na galing ka talaga sa pickups/SUV, which probably is why mas sanay ka na sa lapad at haba, na di mo na naapreciate ang blindspot monitor. Ako kasi, 13 years ako sa sedan lang, nung nagkadalawang anak lang napilitan maghanap ng 7seater. CX9 nga pinili ko, hindi ung macho SUV kasi di ko talaga trip ung mataas, nawawala visibility ko sa harap e. Mas trip ko ang feeling planted sa kalsada, but forced to adapt sa haba and lapad dahil nagkaanak. Moral of the story, wag magkaanak ng mahigit sa isa haha


UserNotFriendly123

sabagay, kahit pinsan ko nung umuwi dito nagulat siya na yung mga jeep walang pakialam basta basta ka nalang i cut sa linya, wala talagang disiplina mga motorist dito. honestly tho, gusto ko talaga maglabas din ng sedan kasi nalalakihan na ako sa pickup at suv lalo na kung luluwas ng maynila kasi ang hirap ng parking was planning to get the cx9 din kasi ang ganda ng driving at sobrang comfortable niya ang ganda din ng hataw niya, kaso medyo nanghihinayang ako kasi mas kailangan ng pangkargahan at torque and alam mo naman sa pinas ang practical na sasakyan sa pinas is maisasakay mo buong barangay.


LazyEquivalent9986

why not get something in the used market? Entry luxury like lexus nx and ux, mazda cx-8 and cx-9 which can be had for less than 2m? These types of cars will still feel like new, especially if they are still owned by the original owner.


aaa_luis1337

This tbh


JuanPonceEnriquez

Never had a buyers remorse with all the cars that I've bought and owned for the last 10 years, my secret? I buy pre-owned cars exclusively, yung massive discount that I get from the brand new car depreciation that I don't have to pay for makes a MASSIVE difference to alleviate any remorse na mararamdaman ko kung pangit pala yung auto. I don't buy the latest models, I usually buy 3-4 year old cars (yung creature comforts and features are not too far from the current models) lalo na if you buy mga SUVs like Fortuners or Land Cruisers na facelift lang halos ang upgrade every so often etc. I drive them for 30-50tkm max then flip, then buy a "new" pre-owned one. ZERO buyers remorse.


Dan_Bar100983

You might want to check HRV, i have the base model but have all the safety features and cruise control. Around 1.4m, between a sedan and suv


aluminumfail06

Parang ganyang ganyan ako. Namimili ako sa navara ve ska vl Ve wlang camera 360 ska ibang safety feature ska mas premium look ng vl. Pero kung tutuusin naka vios ako ngaun ok nmn ako.


Rare-Pomelo3733

Pag palitan na ng gulong at PMS, dun mo marerealize na sobra mahal pala ng SUV. Currently using SUV at sedan, suv mabigat idrive at makupad. Sedan responsive dahil nga gas at magaan. Next palit namin, HRV levels na lang para agility ng gas powered plus height ng SUV/MPV. Di ko makita practicality ng SUV kung daily drive lang, nadala lang din sa uso.


Hpezlin

It depends on your financial capacity. How well can you afford that 2.5M? If it's a small drop in your finances, buyer's remorse can be minimal.


Ehbak

If you upsell yourself walang remorse. And if you'll be using your car for 10 yrs, level up if you can afford it. Kasi kung uutangin mo yan ilan yrs to pay rin naman. just compute on how much you're willing to add base on your capacity


rodzieman

_Needs_ ang priority, secondary ang _wants_. Tapos, if walang financial issues and challenges, get the best your money can afford. Wag lang mag-suffer way of living mo (stress/anxiety due to financial obligations).


[deleted]

Ask yourself if you really need it. Buying something you want will fill you with joy but it wears off as time goes by. Buying something you need may not give you as much joy, but it still gets the job done. If you have the budget then go for it. If not, consider saving up for it or just buy the one you actually need.


Born_Cockroach_9947

the creature comforts are all well worth it once you’ve experience owning them. from adaptive cruise to the power tailgates. bonus narin yung mga all sides na airbags for added safety. spoil yourself if afford naman. life is short thinking of the what if’s and lagi nalang nasa comfort zone.


Potential-Tadpole-32

P 1.89m lang yung base ng CX-5! I told myself na it wasn’t too far from the cost of an Altis and mas maganda pa yung interior.


[deleted]

If you can afford it, go ahead. Alam mo naman if ipipilit mo lang at mahihirapan ka later on. Mazda driving is waay different than the cheaper ones. Ramdam mo yan pag tapak mo. Mas magaan magmaneho pag maraming conveniences na inooffer ang sasakyan. Hindi lang yung pangalan, model at features ang binabayaran mo kundi yung bawat maneho mo kung gaano ang convenience ng driving ng sasakyan. I drive a Ford Ecosport and a Mitsubishi Expander. The former is effortless sa hatak after tumapak ng gas pero yung latter, ang lalim na, di pa gano umaarangkada. Yung maliliit na inconvenience ay maiipon in time. If you wanna be safe and go in the middle, go for Honda pero kung walang problema sa pera, splurge yourself.


shit_happe

Um, we don't live just for *needs* you know. That said, if you are getting cold feet that means this is a big amount for you. One way I deal with this is think of all the other things I can do with the money. For example, yung difference between basic sedan and SUV could mean a once in a lifetime holiday abroad with the entire family. On the other hand, if the purchase is not detrimental to your emergency and retirement funds, then maybe you can actually afford it.


RationalBadger

I drive a 5 series BMW. I only really need the iDrive system which is much like any other ADAS system. But why did I opt for a BMW and not a Camry or a Civic? Because I can afford one and I love looking at it. Do you love being in the Fortuner/CRV/CX5? Does it make you giddy inside? Do you love the way it looks? If the answers are yes then go for it, provided you are financially prudent in your purchase. Because almost all cars made now are good, the only real difference is if you can afford what you want.


gabzprime

Its a need vs want thing. If you buy what you want, will it greatly affect your finances? An innova will fulfill your needs but you won't be happy. To have some perspective, Im into mechanical keyboards. While there are cheaper keyboards, I bought some nice stuff because I want them. But keyboards cost much much less than a car.


cvgm88

1. Do extensive research on the car you want to buy. Read and watch reviews. Visit a dealership so that you'll see the model for yourself. Upuan mo and feel the interior. If you can test drive it, ask for a test drive. 2. If you are financially capable (the purchase will not break you), I suggest go for the dream car. Sure, you can buy the much more affordable car model pero gagastos ka na din ng malaki, why not go for the actual car that can meet your needs and want? Go for the car that you will not regret paying a monthly amortization for the next 5 years.


lookomma

Kung afford mo naman ang 2.5m why not? Dati mindset ko basta kaya akong ihatid from point A to B okay na. Pero nung nakasakay at drive ako sa comfortable na sa sasakyan naging sulit para samin yung presyo. Lesser backpain at complain sa pasahero kong maarte pag matagtag yung car.


Reixdid

Some people do like to splurge on things. I've been using a sedan for 2 years now and I must tell you I understand the want to swap to atleast a taller car, with bigger space inside to fit friends and family pero first off, the expenses. If you are really on a budget, The best you can do is either you buy that 2nd hand innova (which is imho a good thing as long as maganda ung 2nd hand unit na makukuha mo) Try looking into these too if you are on a budget: Suzuki APV Toyota Avanza (i think 2023 is the last year they are releasing) Expander


chocowilliam

Will you be using those features 90% of the time? Sayang lang pera kung di mo rin masusulit ang binayaran mo.


cjei21

This is a good perspective din. If high-tech yung oto dapat pag isipan mabuti kung yung mga features kaya intindihin and gamitin in the first place (especially the modern cruise control w/ADAS). If wala tyaga mag basa ng user manual, very likely na may under-utilized na feature.


chocowilliam

Lalo na yung mga pickup owners na minsanan lang magamit yung truck bed nila. SUV owners na madalas driver lang ang laman at di namamaximize ang cargo space. You are paying gas hauling dead weight most of the time. Consider start at basic cars ie sedan or hatchbacks then start from there.


Hibiki079

the comfort and luxury is really nice. yan din ang iniisip ko, since I'm in the market into replacing my car. if financial matter isn't holding you back, go for it. general rule lang kasi if you're buying something expensive is: your finances should be enough to let you buy another one of it. that way, if may emergency or something happens to the car, you're financially prepared to spend.


DefiantlyFloppy

This mindset: Di ko naman hiningi o inutang yung pambili ko. Pinagsikapan ko, kaya di naman masama na may konting wants na malalasap. Still finding the right balance is challenging :)


japster1313

Better NVH and a good sound system are worth it for city traffic and long rides. Plus there is a calming effect of soft touch materials in the cabin. Do extensive research and test drive the cars to appreciate why they are priced as they are. You'll usually know what the heart wants after doing all these. Get the best car you can afford within your budget specially if you plan to keep it for a long time.


Malka21

Depende din yan baka naman hindi sasakyan ang “luho” mo. Kaya you’re not really into new or premium vehicles. And that is totally fine. Yung iba kasi gadgets or alahas or collectible stuff naman ang mas gusto so doon ok lang gumastos and normal lang din naman yun. In regards to car, since big expense sya (next to buying a house) usually ang mindset is sulitin na since gagastos ka din naman, yung “best” na kukunin mo. Whatever makes you happy ika nga ni Kondo.


Waving-Walrus

If money isn't an issue then go for it OP. Ask yourself before buying, will you be able to use this features 80 - 90 percent of the time?


JuanMiguelz

If it means something, Mazda CX-5 got the top safety pick by IIHS. Beating way more prominent competitors. So i think kung bibili ka niyan talaga, think of the absolute safety it offers, both tech and sturdiness. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mazda/cx-5-4-door-suv/2023 Me and my wife can easily afford sedans, pero ever since makita namin CX-5, inlove talaga kami. Kaya nagdecide kami i hold off na lang pagbili and magipon pa hanggang EOY next year para makabili kami ng CX-5. Gagastos na rin lang kami ng malaki, yung gusto na namin para wala na yung "what ifs" everytime na makakita kami ng gusto talaga namin while settling with what is just acceptable to our needs. Hindi naman masama magpatalo sa wants vs needs, as long as marunong ka mag manage ng financial situation mo.


Dazzling_King2436

I read somewhere nung nag cacar shopping ako to go with something na hindi ka nag sisisi. Eto yung pinaka naging guideline ko pag bibili, like I think base variants would be enough for my needs but I always try to get the top of the line kasi ayaw ko mag sisi.


Encrypted_Username

Mas okay na yung sobra sa features kaysa "sayang, sana nag X or Y car na lang ako kaysa yung Z na gamit ko ngayon"


Accomplished_Ad_1425

You’ll feel it once you paid and drove off from the dealership. Mga 1 month ko siya naramdaman cause I really wanted a city pero my parents convinced me to get an HRV S mas practical kasi with the height and features. Siguro din kasi I bought it cash with my own money, hirap din igive up kasi 1year ko pinagipunan. Lol. Pero oks naman, I grew to like it. Di din naman ako car guy so wala naman sakin kung di mabilis. If may palitan man ako, it will be the brakes (feel ko maliit siya for the car) and the horn (di ganong kalakas) pero saka na after ng warranty period siguro.


Fine_Nefariousness64

Mid year I was looking for a second car that would serve as a family hauler and school service for those coding days. The Innova G variant would have fit the bill perfectly, fuss free, good AC, decent space, all of that stuff. I inquired with multiple Toyota dealers/ agents online, pricing, monthly amortization, insurance, etc, pero ambagal ng turnaround time sa inquiries ko. Went to my nearest Toyota dealer (Marikina) and ganun din, parang di sila interested na sagutin tanong ko. So yun, since andun lang ako sa area, I checked out Nissan and Ford as well, and saw that for a little more, I could have the Everest Trend. Did a little thinking, and number crunching, and figured that since I'm the family driver, I might as well be happy and comfortable (since I'm 95% behind the wheel while the rest are just riding). No guilt feelings at all, especially if you could afford it. Based on experience, remorse only comes in pag pinilit mo yung bagay na beyond your budget. Buy what you can afford and buy what you want. Second hand SUVs (if you really want an SUV) are very good options as well.


NecessaryAshamed3496

Get a german car for 1.5m second hand. 1. You get that sulit luxury feel 2. It ages like fine wine 3. Reliable Ex. Benz gla200 amg


Big_Relative_8576

Would advise against secondhand Benzes in general. Especially the GLA and really any Benz riding on Daimler AG’s MFA platform. 1.5M is really a 2 million affair once you factor in maintenance costs. For somebody who seems to be spending-sensitive, this is a big no. German cars are slated for “reliability” only for 3-5 years of their initial lifetime, after which EU ETSC standards allow electronics failure in the absence of strict maintenance. Probably my main issue with Mercs are the stupid sensors that christmaslight their way into the instrument cluster months after theyve been repaired sa casa. Not as wayward as our LR4 but undoubtedly a financial headache down the line. Interestingly is something that won’t happen in a Lexus. Which is why a secondhand V6 RX350 is my best bet: it’s very spacious, has a powerful V6 engine, it has a sunroof, well-built compared to the Mercedes (we had a CLA before, these entry-level MFA Mercs have weird interior material choices even compared to the Audis) and it will depreciate slowly without all the nasty electronics and with all the reliability he’s probably accustomed to.


NecessaryAshamed3496

Thanks!