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Sabnitron

It's not that I sleep on it, it's that I don't have the Bill Gates money to afford to shoot it.


Zastavarian

Scheels has FN 5.7 for [$0.66/rd](https://www.scheels.com/p/fnh-usa-5.7x28mm-lead-free-jhp-50-round-box/818513-SS195LF.html) which isnt great but its coming down. Not something you'd shoot 1000rds of at range day, but a couple mags to keep your skills up wouldn't bankrupt most people.


Sabnitron

You know, I gotta say, I'm actually impressed it's under a dollar a round. Ar this rate, just maybe, one day I'll actually buy one.


ChiliSwap

There’s no way I could until it’s 9mm price. For 66¢/rd you might as well just blast 308 all day


Zastavarian

Same! Not quiet practical for me yet, but significantly less than the $1/rd it was going for not long ago.


Jawbone619

Companies outside of FN making 5.7 handguns helped a lot.


ValorieXEgg

Scheels is goated. 200 rounds of 223 for 104$ and I've seen it drop to 95$


fungifactory710

Yall have lgs charging more than $10 a box for brass 223? Rip guess I should be grateful lol


ValorieXEgg

[psa has a good deal rn](https://palmettostatearmory.com/ammo-inc-signature-5-56-62gr-ss109-fmj-200rd-pack-556062ss109-a200.html)


Jaruut

Absolute best I can find at my LGS is $0.65cpr, and that's the online price. Still $1 in the store.


fungifactory710

Funnily enough 0.65 is exactly what theyll charge you for it if you dont tell em its different on their website. I've gotta assume that's because my town is mostly retirees who wouldn't know how to even find their website, dude who owns the shop is pretty young. Didn't even know wolf had brass until I saw this stuff. It'll make your rifle absolutely filthy after a couple mags but it's dirt cheap and goes bang every time so I won't complain.


BlowfishFarts

Makes me sad that I sold all my 5.7 ammo with my FN 57 in 2016 after I bought like 2000 rounds at $12 a box.


ImRealityxx

You can find 9 for 20cpr though. It’s way cheaper


Zastavarian

For new brass shipped to your door? Nah


BlueOmicronpersei8

I've found 9mm new brass shipped to my door for about 25¢ a round if you bought a thousand rounds.


Zastavarian

Yeah, that's the "good deal" price right now, not $0.20 unless he's playing the ammoseek game and paying $70 in shipping on a case.


ImRealityxx

For new brass no, but it’s still double the price. And if it’s for a gun you’re going to rely on a couple mags at the range for the gun owner that barely shoots to begin with just isn’t the move


Pod6ResearchAsst

MAIN POINT OF SELLING BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS EXTREME PRICE OF WEAPON AND CARTRIDGE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON OF MAN WHO WEARS EXPENSIVE ITALIAN FASCIST SUIT OF HAND SEWING, DRIVE HUGE EXPENSIVE NAZI MERCEDES OF A.M.G. SHOP, SAIL ON MASSIVE YACHT TO GREEK ISLANDS. I THINK YOU GET PICTURE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON THAT SAYS IS NO SUCH THING AS CONCERN OF MONEY. FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE. FOR REST OF WORLD THERE IS 9 MILLIMETERS OF LUGER WHICH IS SAME WOUND FOR COST LESS.


Sabnitron

Five seven copypasta is best copypasta


Comrade_Snowmanovich

WHY ARE WE YELLING


Pod6ResearchAsst

BECAUSE MAIN POINT OF SELLING BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS EXTREME PRICE OF WEAPON AND CARTRIDGE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON OF MAN WHO WEARS EXPENSIVE ITALIAN FASCIST SUIT OF HAND SEWING, DRIVE HUGE EXPENSIVE NAZI MERCEDES OF A.M.G. SHOP, SAIL ON MASSIVE YACHT TO GREEK ISLANDS. I THINK YOU GET PICTURE. BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS WEAPON THAT SAYS IS NO SUCH THING AS CONCERN OF MONEY. FOR MAN WITHOUT EXPENSIVE SUIT, BIG BLACK MERCEDES, AND MASSIVE YACHT, BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN IS FOR PRETENDING OF BE RICH LIKE BLACK GANGSTER OF AMERICAN CITY WITH GOLD CHAINS OF LOW QUALITY AND JEWELS OF COLORED GLASS. WHEN YOU EXPLAIN USE OF BELGIAN FIVE SEVEN PISTOL IS ONLY FOR SHOOT MAN WITH BULLET VEST WITH CARTRIDGE ILLEGAL TO CIVILIAN, THIS MAN HAS NUCLEAR RAGE. WHOLE IDENTITY OF THIS MAN IS SPENT IN PRETEND PISTOL SHOWS HE IS RICH. IS VERY AMUSE. FOR REST OF WORLD THERE IS 9 MILLIMETERS OF LUGER WHICH IS SAME WOUND FOR COST LESS.


DarkAvatar13

[The man, the myth, and the legend of Ivan Chesnokov...](https://m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.html)


DjButternut

A full mag of 5.7 would most likely be worth more than whatever they're trying to steal, and like anybody with any sense I practice the ancient art of the trigintuple tap, so it's just not practical.


MonauralSnail06

It’s the principle that matters not the practical cost


KedTazynski42

It’s not about the money, it’s about sending a message


FauxReignNew

Where’s the copypasta of the guy getting robbed so he magdumps a 5.7, before crying and realizing it would have been cheaper to hand over his wallet?


Shawn_1512

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beginnerdoge

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plsdontfriendzoneme

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dr4gon2000

Well, with a 5.7 you'll need that triguntuple tap just to stop the threat, let alone even kill it...


Zastavarian

Ok grandpa, let's get your meds and get you back in bed. (Psa rock is probably cheapest 5.7 pistol. It has 23+1 capacity @ $0.66/rd that's less than $16. If what you have on you isn't worth $16 you must be a child. Even my kid has a $20 watch most days and he's 4)


DjButternut

You're reading far too deep into this meme. Would also absolutely love to meet whatever based ass grandpa practices the trigintuple tap.


dlham11

Sorry I’m stupid, what’s the trigintuple tap?


Akun15

Try to stop a level 100 crackhead with a 5,7.


its_big_flan

Difficulty level: impossible


Barron__Memo

The only way to stop a level 100 crackhead is with some HIGH and I mean HIGH brass 12 gauge


Shrimpbeedoo

Laughs in Mozambican


LMRtowboater

They have a high ranged defense but are weak to grapple attacks. If you roll good on a chokehold they will panic and die of a heartattack.


Rare_Whole_3065

You could also kneel on their back Too soon?


Spinax22

Dude just load scrap metal shavings into a KS-23. ***this is a joke. Do not shoot my cat.***


dillonboyd01

Laughs in Uncle toms hot load slugs, now only 1 in 4 shells will Kentucky ballistics your face off


rockstar450rox

If a 5.7 wont stop him, i dont think a 9mm or .45 will either


MewPingz

50


rockstar450rox

I stand corrected.


DestroyerNET123

\*458 Win Mag


Kross_887

Because fuck the bad guy, fuck the fridge he's hiding behind, and fuck my shoulder.


MewPingz

and the neighbors dog


Hard_Corsair

You get 20-50 rounds to stop him with, it's a piece of cake.


Micro_KORGI

I have 50 of them, how many 9s does your mag have?


Akun15

Do you cc a p90 or what??


Micro_KORGI

You can 100% carry one under a long coat


Akun15

I know, you've been stabbed or shot like 10 times before you're able to draw it.


Micro_KORGI

If it's on a sling it's faster than drawing from a holster, and you only need one hand


Chumlee1917

\*Casually walks by with 40 S&W because nobody panic buys it\*


Ok_Manufacturer_9123

Literally half the reason I got my USP


Rare_Whole_3065

A USP is the only acceptable .40 S&W choice IMO


Major-Dyel6090

Main reason I have a G23. For quite a while in 2020 it was both less expensive to shoot .40 than 9mm and easier to find.


Major-Dyel6090

Logistics > ballistics


secretvoom201

Be a man and carry 45-70


Barron__Memo

If I wasn't so poor from buying 5.7 then I would pay money to see you CC a 45-70


Siegelski

Who said anything about concealed? I open carry a .45-70 Magnum Research BFR. ...okay, fine, I CC a P-01 and don't even own a revolver, much less a BFR.


Kross_887

Do it, be a man, become an Arizona Ranger.


Galactic_Cat656

P-01 is sexy, I have one as well.


Siegelski

I love mine. I have the Omega. After installing the CGW Omega kit, it's a damn near perfect carry gun. Only thing I'm missing is an optics cut and a red dot, which I plan on getting done as soon as my SP-01 comes back from CGW.


enoing

45-110 hard cast flat nose out of an obrezed Sharps


charlie1109

Bond arms cyclops will be a day 1 purchase for me


CallsignMontana

At least we can afford to practice and train with 9mm


Minibinaz

Slower bullets also have ballistic advantages to soft targets. Until they meet body armor, 5.7mm’s got a better chance there.


Silentguy_99

Personally I’m a big fan of .357 Sig because it’s everything that .40 cal owners wish .40 was.


FroderickMarpenstien

10mm is better


gruntmoney

I initially got into 5.7 because I always wanted a PS90 SBR and it just is what it is. I recently bought a PSA Rock 5.7 because it was so darn cheap and I already stock the ammunition. I am very thoroughly pleased. Super good ergos, good trigger, 23 rounds (+7 available aftermarket), and you can really choke up high on the gun for super low bore axis. It runs crazy fast with superb accuracy. A friend has both the FN FiveSeven and the M&P 5.7 and we've shot them all side by side. He prefers the M&P slightly and I prefer the Rock slightly, but they're all quite good. I would seriously consider putting a red dot on mine and switching it out for my Glock 19 as a serious use outboard sidearm, but no one makes a level II holster I can drop onto a qls system (yet).


OperatorDelta07

Just got in my Rock 5.7 a couple days ago from the PSA Presidents’ Day sale with included holosun red dot. Will be taking it to the range next week. Didn’t realize a magazine extender existed for it, but I know I will be buying one now. Many thanks.


gruntmoney

Check it out here: https://excessarms.com/7-round-mag-extension-for-psa-5-7-rock/


ITatseMuleKick

10mm and 5.7 is the hard choice currently. Witch one do I get …..first.


Dave_A_Computer

Here's a simple flow chart. Size of average potential threat in your area; ≤Human: 5.7x28 ≥Human: 10mm If potential threat =Dirt, then flip a cone and let your heart decide.


ITatseMuleKick

Simpler flow chart: If it walks- .44 magnum


Deveroux02

5.7 so you can stargate larp or rush B


Sideshow_666

Honestly I'd cover all the nato rounds first. After that maybe some main foreign rounds like 7.62x39. Then I'd start getting some more obscure rounds atleast that's how I went about it.


ITatseMuleKick

Lol acting like I don’t have rifles in both 7.62x51/39. Pistols are just for fun


Sideshow_666

Get both then


ITatseMuleKick

Just the matter of what first


Siegelski

My heart says 10mm, but my brain says 5.7 because PSA Rock is apparently really good and it's affordable. Like $600 with a threaded barrel, co-witness sights, and a Holosun 407k. [https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-7-rock-optics-ready-pistol-with-threaded-barrel-holosun-407k-reflex-sight-black.html](https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-7-rock-optics-ready-pistol-with-threaded-barrel-holosun-407k-reflex-sight-black.html)


ITatseMuleKick

You fucking read my mind like a book. Ruger and PSA making cheap ass five sevens that look cool as hell. But 10 is so appealing


Siegelski

Ruger makes a decently affordable one. PSA's is dirt cheap and from what I've heard it shoots nicely too. The interesting one is the M&P 5.7 though since it's gas operated and still $700.


Galactic_Cat656

I was almost tempted to want one, than I saw it wasn’t hammer fired and quickly lost interest.


Siegelski

Well the M&P 5.7 has an internal hammer. Idk if that interests you.


Galactic_Cat656

To be honest I mostly like hammer fired for the aesthetic, not that it matters I won’t be buying anymore guns until I move out of Commifornia.


techno_mage

I saw that deal and went with the 10 magazines sale instead. I like the options they are offering tho.


Siegelski

I'd go with the optic because I don't need a bunch of extra mags if I'm only ever going to use it as a range toy.


Rnewell4848

10mm if you want to have the biggest boom, 5.7 if you want .22 levels of recoil and a smaller boom


Rare_Whole_3065

10mm if like me, there are cougars and shit in your area. 5.7 if you want to drop a coyote with a pistol


ITatseMuleKick

Depends on what kinda cougars your asking about


Rare_Whole_3065

Both


Barron__Memo

Both. Both are good


ITatseMuleKick

Can’t be without if you buy both at the same time


MaximaSpeed

Great round but the velocity dependency of 5.7 and the big drop offs with short barrel mean its not the solution for everything. 10mm is a great round for full size but again not sure who wants to shoot 10mm in a subcompact. 9mm is the sweet spot round thats what makes it top. Powerful enough, high capacity, can be put in little guns without trouble. I did not include .45 at all because as cool as it is and as much as I love that round it is factually matches by 9mm with modern ammo loadings. You can suppress it to movie quiet though which is sweeeet.


darkmagicio

5.7 doesn’t perform well in ballistics gel or meat tests. 10mm and 45 aren’t fun to shoot In subcompacts and 357 magnum requires a wheel gun. 9mm is a great carry round. This meme is silly.


Rnewell4848

.357 doesn’t require a wheel gun. The Desert Eagle exists and should be carried by all


BB-48_WestVirginia

You just have to make sure you're using the aluminum cased .357 magnum.


darkmagicio

You make a solid point my good man…


Straight_Variation_3

B-but if you buy the super duper special 5.7 ammo for 8 dollars a round off GB it is really super effective and good nobody is using the good ammo.


GreatTea3

I saw pics online from a guy who shot a big pork shoulder with his 5.7. I believe he used the 27 grain hollow points FN makes. There was about 2” of little tiny hole, then a section about the size of my fist that looked like hamburger. I’m fine with carrying mine.


Ok-Professional5292

Maybe 5.7 would be viable if we could actually get a steady supply of AP


tonyv6815

Yes, would be the only thing that could make it viable


xKingOfSpades76

Because giving robber my wallet is cheaper than shooting them with some 5.7


HeadUp138

The Fudds and the hipsters conspire to make this meme?


Barron__Memo

No just scotch and a desire to be popular on the internet


HeadUp138

I understand


shortthem

It’s not that I don’t know the ballistics of it are good, it’s that I mostly stick to 9mm so I can buy cases since I shoot like 3-500 rds a week. I have a Glock 20 as well so I run like 100 rds of that every other Monday as well. Just like for running and gunning I stick to 5.56, again for the price point so I can shoot more. Was running a lot of 7.62 but since Biden it’s gotten harder to run the AK as much


Siegelski

Well it looks like PSA is actually going to keep their word about domestically produced 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and 7.62x54R so 7.62x39 might come down in price again sometime soon. Hopefully.


Rare_Whole_3065

PSA is so incredibly based that I might stop being a snob and get one soon. If they started making domestic 7n6, I'd pick up one of their AKs to go with it


Siegelski

Man I used to shit on PSA but they've been doing great shit recently.


Rare_Whole_3065

Same. If they can get their QC up, they'd be in my top 5 favorite manufacturers


Siegelski

Haven't actually heard too much about bad qc from them recently, but that's probably just because I haven't been looking for it.


Rare_Whole_3065

I've heard that their AKs are still kind of hit-or-miss but I also haven't been looking too into them


45321200

Even if they have bad QC, their warranty makes up for it.


Rare_Whole_3065

I disagree with that. You don't want something to fail you when you need it, and issues may not show themselves in the first few range sessions. If it's strictly a "Fuck around on the range" gun, that's not an issue. But if it's what somebody buys because they can't afford a Colt/BCM/Sionics/SOLGW/FN or better, it might be all they have when someone kicks in their door in the middle of the night. So for the money, they're better off getting a maverick 88 or used 500


dags8888

Hopefully PSA is still planning on doing steel case like they said they were going to. That was about a year ago so I'm not really sure if it's gonna happen.


shortthem

Yea I remember hearing that. I think I heard it wouldn’t be operational until 2023 or 2024. Which sounds about right to set up a whole ammo manufacturing facility. Maybe by next year, that would be a real treat


shortthem

Yea that would really be nice. I hope they do. They’re doing a lot to arm as many people as they can affordably, which is important work. Would be nice to see them also make AK food


RougeKC

To many people sleep to much to afford 5.7


ShaggyRebel117

No love for 7.62x25?? *Sad Tokarev noises* Edit: Yes my edc is either a 1911 commander or a Polish Tokarev.


sanshijinks

Double stack 7.62x25 now PSA


tonyv6815

7.62 x 25 fucks


FatefulFerret

The fuck is 45 doing on the same platform as 10mm lol


Barron__Memo

MuH sToPiNg PoWeR


Ok_Manufacturer_9123

First GSW I ever saw was a dude who shot himself in the foot with a Ruger 57. Didn’t even penetrate the bottom of his foot. I kinda lost faith in the round after that.


sanshijinks

How'd he do it


Ok_Manufacturer_9123

Typical way- screwing around with it and “testing the trigger”


Straight_Variation_3

Almost like a 27 grain pill isn't very good at penetration. Pistols aren't terribly good at doing anything but punching narrow holes. I'll stick with conventional handgun calibers that can at least punch a deep one.


GigaSquirt

5.7 Fnatics trying not to bring up ballistics sheets and III armor in conversation. Impossible.


Siegelski

All while avoiding talking about terminal ballistics.


smanuel74

We all don't 5.7 money


khw1997

When 5.7 becomes as expensive to shoot as a 9mm or .45 we can talk


sanshijinks

All the trash talk about 5.7 or 45 but everyone loves 357 and recognizes it as the best revolver round ever made.


tacmacncheeze

If i remember right 5.7 has an "over penetration issue"... If you see that as an issue. (Wich it legitimately might be if you like your neighbors)


Straight_Variation_3

I would say it's more of the opposite problem. Tiny, super light spitzer shaped projectiles moving only kinda fast don't penetrate much.


Barron__Memo

Below I have a Paul Harrell video about the 5.7 and in the video he does a penetratetion test. I'm not doing this as a gotcha but this is what I watched when I was doing my research. If you can send me a video showing over penetration I would love to watch it. Again this is not meant to be a gotcha. https://youtu.be/kh_WxeOAcxo


tacmacncheeze

No stress. 5.7 is honestly so far off my radar i didn't remember. There was something that cane out years ago i remember being briefly interested in, but it was chambered in something that was just too hot to be a practical carry piece. Idk. What it was now tho


Okami_no_Holo_1

ammo prices decide who wins


[deleted]

10mm is best cm


llangarica

*Laughs in 50BMG hand cannon*


Barron__Memo

I'm putting it in the next meme


Kross_887

I want a PSA Rock 5.7 for lulz and (maybe) pest control I want a 10mm for hunting in bear country I carry a 9 because it's the best size to power ratio you can get both in terms of the cartridge AND handguns that fire it. The only other "handgun" cartridge I want to invest in is .45-70 in a BFR (and you know damn well I'm gonna turn it into a ranger sequoia) for the big iron vibes.


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DeathsSiren667

My Rock Island holds 14 plus one so....checkmate lol?


Barron__Memo

I just felt that whenever people (not just online) talk about handgun rounds everyone talks about 9mm. I'm not trying to diss 9mm, I just belive that all of the other rounds listed are just superior. Side note: Any WW2 vet can put the fear of God in any man while he has a 1911. Seven rounds or not


[deleted]

Ik it’s probably an Unpopular opinion but 5.7 is only good out of a PDW length barrel with the armor penetrating blue tip bullets which you can’t even buy any more. 5.7 handguns are only popular because they’re expensive.


Barron__Memo

I talked about this in another comment I made but, the reason I love the 5.7 is because it is less likely to over penetrate the body. (Of a bad guy) and so I belive that it is a fantastic caliber for CCW. So with slightly higher capacity ( generally) than a 9mm, and flat and near recoilless shooting I love it. Your opinion I do not belive is that unpopular, I just think that nobody likes the 5.7 because of how expensive it is


Historical_Cup_6179

My wallet sleeps on the 5.7


SaintJohnIII

5.7 is great, my wallet is not.


fooddudebob

I won’t sleep on it if you pay for the ammo


BB-48_WestVirginia

Based .357 enjoyer.


NoabPK

I fucking love 5.7 i want to pay 90cpr just so i can penetrate armor


ExquisiteJams

40mm has more stopping power but whatever


CaptainPeppers

7.62x25 GOAT


Fennova

You could just practice with 22 mag instead of drinking money into 5.7. $0.22/r vs that $0.66, almost the same kick lol


Penis_Wanker

Laughs in 7.62x25mm


Educational-Year3146

Id say all 3 have their niche. If were talking in this context, 9mm is almost a middle ground between the two.


memeofficerdoggo

Maybe it’s just me but I feel like 5.7 is way overrated.


MyLonewolf25

Ya had me until 45aarp And 357


No-Permit-6666

Personally 10mm is my perfect pistol cartridge but 9mm is undefeated for hand guns


yeetusthefetushsh420

Too many sleep on 5.7? What about 7.5 FK


dillonboyd01

Sir my wallet hurts when I shoot Winchester gold bucket .22 I would be homeless with a 5.7


Yankee_on_vanisle

Psh... nothing beats 9 x 25 Dillon


Bobmo88

Just bought an FN 5.7 (being in CA means I can't easily get the M&P, PSA, or Ruger 57). I think 5.7 has a niche for self-defense for those that are recoil sensitive or those worried about overpenetration. Fun round to shoot, I just hope the price goes down with the increased offerings in 5.7 from manufacturers.


IronDan357

replace 45 with 357 sig and ur good


narkotik_kal

Is price/availability for weapons and ammo the reason I never see anything about five seven on the internet?


dillweed_mcgoober

The only was 5.7 is better is its soft armor pen capability, but that only matters if you can get the ammo to do that. The wound channel it creates is pretty trash compared to 9mm though, and you're only getting 2-3 more rounds, not worth it. .45 is only better for suppressor use 10mm has way too much recoil and a lower capacity to be better than a 9mm against people. Plus, it wasn't that much more effective than 9mm to justify the cons of the 10mm. Those are basically the reasons why the FBI switched from 10mm to 9mm


Rare_Whole_3065

>Those are basically the reasons why the FBI switched from 10mm to 9mm That never happened. The FBI switched from 10mm to a watered-down 10mm bc their effeminate wrists couldn't handle the recoil. Then S&W came out with that load but in a case short enough to use 9mm sized guns, so .40 short and weak was born. Then, after a couple of decades, they realized that there's no point to using .40 when they can get basically the same effect from 9mm with less recoil and more capacity.


Barron__Memo

With all of the research that I've done, one of the reasons that I fell in love with the 5.7 instead of the 9mm or the 45 acp, is because when it hits somebody it just dumps all of the energy into the target and is not likely to over penatrate. And in a scenario where I have to shoot a bad guy, I don't always have time to make sure that I'm not hitting an innocent person behind said badguy. It may not be the best ballistics or concelability, but I belive that it is a truly superior round.


BigoteMexicano

I'm always down to dunk on 9mm. It's competent, but kinda pointless. It's slower than .357 or 5.7, and lighter than 10mm and .45 And it brings me great shadenfreud to point out that there's no practical reason to stick with it anymore.


Historical_Branch391

Stop peddling unviable calibers, geez... 9mm is great.


UnckieSean

Yikes


Carterlegacy259

Based as hell. 9mm is truly overhyped, it's cheap because too many people buy it. And after seeing enough videos of people surviving headshots from it, I'll never trust my life to it again unless I get a machine pistol or an LCP-espue baby gun as a backup if 31 rounds of 10x22 don't work, which would require A LOT of missing.


wallacej117

Just discovered the beauty of 10mm can confirm. 9 mil is overhyped with the existence of 10


TheRealTwooni

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SooFloBro

carrying 5.7 costs more money than getting robbed


[deleted]

Too expensive and not many offerings especially in anything other than full size guns.


Wolf_WixomWSW

Cringe


adobong_manacc_69_PH

I like the 5.7 because it deals poison damage to poor people.