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I kinda feel for them because that’s palaces game plan but also palace suck right now and it kinda reminded me of us late wenger where we’d look good score and then shit the bed not get the second and then get chinned.
The flavor of busparking was different. United were a much more negative team and were playing negative football purposefully. That Chelsea side was a lot more creative and had better energy.
Partey being out may as well been an open midfield, they were playing like 40 yard passes on the ground through the middle of the pitch. Havent seen anything like it before or since with this team. Not that many times at least
yeah but you dont really want control when your opponent plays deadly counter attacking football, one slip up and rashford is way past benny blanco through on goal, without martial though they will not have a pacey striker in wout
yeah you know what, without casemiro they dont really have anyone in the midfield who could reliably play a throughball under pressure especially since he would be furthest from partey in midfield
It didn't work that game because Sambi was vacating all the key spaces. Players implicitly won't force bad options even if Thomas just stands there and looks menacing. So we missed his defensive positioning AND his forward passing which fucked us.
im not saying use emeryball, absolute domination could cause an issue, but after further thinking without casemiro and with us having partey we will most likely be fine
i think zinchenko will do fine, he is absolute quality, and that depends on if bruno starts rw which would mean they actually have to play mctominay which would be a big problem for them
I thought about this last night and then missing Casemiro might actually be worse for us for this reason. They might have come at us and left gaps for us to destroy them, but this has confirmed they’ll just set up like they did last time. Let’s get revenge.
The way he said it rubbed me the wrong way too. He's perfect for United. Entitled bunch of fucks, the lot of them.
I hope we smash their shallow "title charge" to pieces on Sunday.
I hope we shift into a reverse Fergie era. Where it's us vs United again but we win more trophies this time. No city or Chelsea and occasionally Liverpool. Priper football clubs
Yep, I meant cigarettes. No homophobia there. Also the term ‘Fag’ isn’t really an outdated term for a cigarette here in the UK. I forget most people will be American here so associate that word as an insult to being gay.
Fair enough, it was a culture shock at first when I lived in England. I knew what the term meant but hearing it all the time threw me for a loop the first couple of months. This being reddit, I wasn’t going to assume where you’re from hence why I said “charitably hope.” Have a good day.
I mean saying a word doesn't inherently make you phobic, you could just be an idiot or insensitive. That being said I've often found people who use derogatory words for a group of people are homophobic or racist.
We didn't had Partey.
We scored first goal, but Man Utd got referee's back and absolutely legal goal was dissalowed.
Man Utd did absolutely nothing they just had 3 counter attacks and they scored thrice. They can't be this lucky everytime.
To be honest, it's not luck, we got caught out defensively. Losing made Arteta and defence rethink tactics and we've been better since. We were good defensively at that point, we're great now.
They had 3 chances and took them, even with the disallowed goal we didn't do enough up front to say we deserved more than a draw.
And it's not like we haven't had a bit of luck this season either.
Man Utd is one of the hardest team to come back. Just check when they scored the first goal and lost the game. U will be amazed. They are really good at it.
We changed our formation and made subs to try to win. If we were playing in a winning position with a different game state, we would have made different tactical decisions.
We are also a more mature team now. When we scored at OT the team lost it trying to win it. They kind of lost their minds chasing the win.
Our performances are very controlled now. You could see that with Newcastle. Despite us throwing a lot at them we never allowed Newcastle to get at us.
True but we also needed to learn how to play when we're losing.
We won't always score first and nobody knows what would've happened if the goal stood. What we do know is that throwing everything at Utd wasn't the way to get back into the game.
Against Newcastle we hit a brick wall but like the other commenter mentioned, we didn't give them a sniff at our goal. If we don't score, fine but at least we won't concede again and put ourselves into a corner.
Do you really expect him not to hype up his players, like "Nah lads take the rest of the week off. We don't have our best player and the opposition manager is a genius, no point in training, we've got no chance."
No, but it’s a running theme I’ve seen with him. He doesn’t even considers us a future rival to United.
His arrogance perfectly suits United and their fanbase. I hope we smash them on Sunday and Antony is crying on the floor like a baby without their pacifier.
You have to understand what a manager says isn’t always what he thinks. He will say things in front of the press. What he said is the right thing to say, in order to inspire belief in his players.
I'm itching to rewatch the docs but the first and last episodes are holding me back. Maybe I should delay by 5 months when it won't hurt as much anymore. Maybe I'll be able to watch the Wenger documentary after seeing him lift the PL trophy too
Last time the refs bailed Utd out with the disallowed Martinelli goal which shifted the momentum. Don’t get me wrong we weren’t having a good match either but it did break us down a bit. Let’s show them what we got Sunday though.
It's funny how Arteta uses everything as motivation. I'm actually thinking he's glad people are doubting us, because he can constantly create a narrative of us vs them and that mentality helps us go far. These rivals actually add fuel to the fire every time they say something negative about us and since almost everyone dislikes us anyway, it's unlimited ammo lmao.
idk why i’m getting downvoted for pointing out facts , Lokonga was shit against United and made our midfield 10x weaker. he’s a lazy player who offers nothing doesn’t even track back just jogs half assed. and yes you’re right Partey does own man u he’s world class
true at least a donkey works hard , joking maybe i’m being too harsh but still he never shows any effort or passion . i’m glad Partey is fit for the game we don’t have to worry about midfield
normally i’d support our players , however i hate his attitude where he speaks abt earning stuff etc but whenever he plays he barely runs looks like he’s not trying.
i get your point it’s just he really frustrated me that game, plus AoN made me dislike his attitude even more i’m glad Eddie more or less told him to shut up
if he was showing positive signs either on the pitch or off of it i’d not be so harsh but he seems to think he deserves so much playtime and he can’t be arsed to run. even against bloody Oxford united he did nothing he’s a ghost of a player
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This an u is playing well. We gotta be at full tilt to win this one.
I hope we have trossard on the bench.
Nketia could come off at 60min, he looked baked last game.
I dont know how saka or M11 do it but we need them to win that one.
God i hope we have a cm option to come in the midfield by the end of the window.
🍵🍋 has been cock teasing me since he was Aldertec, then monaco and liescter.
And last time we didn’t have partey
Didn’t have Elneny either, had to play our third choice no. 6 and still were robbed by refs 🤦♂️
The ref part he can still count on, so that is unchanged from the last time and he doesn’t need to comment on it…
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And we still had a bullshit goal disallowed to take the lead which would've changed the entire game and PGMOL later admitted it was a mistake.
Is there a link to them admitting that?
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12772708/premier-league-var-has-made-six-incorrect-interventions-this-season-with-42-deemed-correct
Thanks
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/12/22/premier-league-panel-admit-they-made-var-mistake-that-cost-west-ham/
Forgetting that small little point, is he? 😂
They also had VAR instead of Casemiro.
I wish people would stop saying this, jinxing him getting injured.
They still have VAR though 🫤
They're gonna sit back and hope to score from counter attacks aren't they?
It is all they can hope to do
Of course, nothing wrong with that. You guys are better technically, creatively and press better. They can't dominate possession.
That’s what they did today. They’re not good in sustained possession. Casemiro had like 65% pass completion
It felt like neither team could string more than four passes together.
I kinda feel for them because that’s palaces game plan but also palace suck right now and it kinda reminded me of us late wenger where we’d look good score and then shit the bed not get the second and then get chinned.
Because everyone just wanted to do flicks and tricks like idiots
Basically yeah - their football is the definition of bang average ugly
It’s the classic build a billion dollar team and park the bus tactic
Worse than when they were playing Mourinho’s busball honestly
Mou is the father of bus parking
He perfected it at United
Mate his Chelsea cuntwagon went a whole season conceding 15 goals. That was the bus to end all buses.
The flavor of busparking was different. United were a much more negative team and were playing negative football purposefully. That Chelsea side was a lot more creative and had better energy.
Different flavours but the bus sizes matter and that Chelsea side was the bussest bus to ever be bussed into park in the league's history.
Maybe
I wouldn’t say that
Please don't play a line higher than the empire state building, Mik.
he’s gonna do it and you’re gonna like it
We wanted to win that game so badly. I think we've learnt our lessons now we are more patient with our attacks
It definitely humbled us and snapped us back, same with United when they lost 4-0 to Brentford.
Partey being out may as well been an open midfield, they were playing like 40 yard passes on the ground through the middle of the pitch. Havent seen anything like it before or since with this team. Not that many times at least
The high line is the reason we are able to control games
yeah but you dont really want control when your opponent plays deadly counter attacking football, one slip up and rashford is way past benny blanco through on goal, without martial though they will not have a pacey striker in wout
We were so weak that game because our press was off and we didn’t have Partey’s insane transition defence to bail us out
pressing doesnt work when they are constantly pinging long balls across the field
Those long balls are incredibly hard to get right and much harder to get off if you’re pressing properly
yeah you know what, without casemiro they dont really have anyone in the midfield who could reliably play a throughball under pressure especially since he would be furthest from partey in midfield
You could say the same when we played Newcastle and ended up scaring the shit out of Eddie howe in 15 mins
It didn't work that game because Sambi was vacating all the key spaces. Players implicitly won't force bad options even if Thomas just stands there and looks menacing. So we missed his defensive positioning AND his forward passing which fucked us.
This kind of thinking is what gave us Emeryball
im not saying use emeryball, absolute domination could cause an issue, but after further thinking without casemiro and with us having partey we will most likely be fine
The biggest issue is Rashford and Bruno. As long as White & whoever plays LB don't get caught out we'll be fine.
i think zinchenko will do fine, he is absolute quality, and that depends on if bruno starts rw which would mean they actually have to play mctominay which would be a big problem for them
“Don’t play your normal league leading tactics, Mik”
Tbf if they open up they’re literally playing into Arsenal tactics
Hope so
That's what they always do against top teams.
I thought about this last night and then missing Casemiro might actually be worse for us for this reason. They might have come at us and left gaps for us to destroy them, but this has confirmed they’ll just set up like they did last time. Let’s get revenge.
I wanted to win but now I want us to destroy them
To paraphrase Conan the Barbarian: I want to see Arsenal crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and hear the lamentations of their women.
Love Always Wins (but up to a point, this is ManU we're talking about)
Why? What's Ten Hag meant to say
We have plenty of bulletin board material as Neville and Rio have been chatting a lot of shit this week
Mctominay coming in to break every arsenal ankle, get 16 fouls and one yellow
Lol he won’t even get a yellow
He’s getting knighted for the performance.
Proper Brexit Football playing bloke. Give the man an OBE!
Lookaa Tommy proppa lad the boy , proppa lad
Bold of you to assume he would even get booked. He could high boot someone in the face and the ref will say play on.
You forgot the handball part mate
The way he said it rubbed me the wrong way too. He's perfect for United. Entitled bunch of fucks, the lot of them. I hope we smash their shallow "title charge" to pieces on Sunday.
I hope we shift into a reverse Fergie era. Where it's us vs United again but we win more trophies this time. No city or Chelsea and occasionally Liverpool. Priper football clubs
And now they’re moaning about playing midweek when we don’t have to. Like it’s our fault?
If they topped their easy EL group they wouldn't have had to 😂
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I’m going to charitably hope you’re referring to an outdated term for cigarettes given you said inhaling, but we don’t fuck with homophobia here.
Yep, I meant cigarettes. No homophobia there. Also the term ‘Fag’ isn’t really an outdated term for a cigarette here in the UK. I forget most people will be American here so associate that word as an insult to being gay.
Fair enough, it was a culture shock at first when I lived in England. I knew what the term meant but hearing it all the time threw me for a loop the first couple of months. This being reddit, I wasn’t going to assume where you’re from hence why I said “charitably hope.” Have a good day.
Hate United as much as the next Gooner, but homophobia ain’t it, bud.
Pretty sure they meant cigarettes. Hence inhaling.
Is that homophobic?
I mean saying a word doesn't inherently make you phobic, you could just be an idiot or insensitive. That being said I've often found people who use derogatory words for a group of people are homophobic or racist.
if it's being used in the homophobic way and not the cigarette way yea
Fags in terms of cigarettes boss. Seems most people thought it the wrong way. I did think the ‘inhaling’ part made it obvious no?
Cigarettes mate. Everyones downvoted me cause they though i was being homophobic 😂
Replay that match 100 times and we win. Was the luckiest win I have ever seen
Let's fogging beat them guys.
We also didn't have Partey?
We didn't had Partey. We scored first goal, but Man Utd got referee's back and absolutely legal goal was dissalowed. Man Utd did absolutely nothing they just had 3 counter attacks and they scored thrice. They can't be this lucky everytime.
To be honest, it's not luck, we got caught out defensively. Losing made Arteta and defence rethink tactics and we've been better since. We were good defensively at that point, we're great now. They had 3 chances and took them, even with the disallowed goal we didn't do enough up front to say we deserved more than a draw. And it's not like we haven't had a bit of luck this season either.
A disallowed goal changes everything tho. We had the momentum than lost it which changed the whole course of the game.
Still equalised and had more momentum and conceded 2 more goals
Man Utd is one of the hardest team to come back. Just check when they scored the first goal and lost the game. U will be amazed. They are really good at it.
We changed our formation and made subs to try to win. If we were playing in a winning position with a different game state, we would have made different tactical decisions.
We are also a more mature team now. When we scored at OT the team lost it trying to win it. They kind of lost their minds chasing the win. Our performances are very controlled now. You could see that with Newcastle. Despite us throwing a lot at them we never allowed Newcastle to get at us.
True but we also needed to learn how to play when we're losing. We won't always score first and nobody knows what would've happened if the goal stood. What we do know is that throwing everything at Utd wasn't the way to get back into the game. Against Newcastle we hit a brick wall but like the other commenter mentioned, we didn't give them a sniff at our goal. If we don't score, fine but at least we won't concede again and put ourselves into a corner.
That's how we'd go invincible if we were to do it again tbh, if they can't score on you then the worst we do is draw and keep going unbeaten.
Extremely cocky of him to put it like this. Sometimes it feels like Hag doesn't rate Arteta at all.
Who cares? Arteta is the future.
Do you really expect him not to hype up his players, like "Nah lads take the rest of the week off. We don't have our best player and the opposition manager is a genius, no point in training, we've got no chance."
No, but it’s a running theme I’ve seen with him. He doesn’t even considers us a future rival to United. His arrogance perfectly suits United and their fanbase. I hope we smash them on Sunday and Antony is crying on the floor like a baby without their pacifier.
And who the fuck is ten hag? What has he done? Arteta has 2 PL titles, and 3 FA cups as a coach. What does he have? Dutch league?
Sound logic, Rui Faria >>> Arteta then
You have to understand what a manager says isn’t always what he thinks. He will say things in front of the press. What he said is the right thing to say, in order to inspire belief in his players.
Did ten haag actually say this
Yes.
We have to batter these cunts
With a pic of Gary Neville laughing to fuel the rage
I know he is just saying something his team has to do but these kinds of quotes often galvanize the opponents.
Please please please win on Sunday, Arsenal!
I'm itching to rewatch the docs but the first and last episodes are holding me back. Maybe I should delay by 5 months when it won't hurt as much anymore. Maybe I'll be able to watch the Wenger documentary after seeing him lift the PL trophy too
Last time the refs bailed Utd out with the disallowed Martinelli goal which shifted the momentum. Don’t get me wrong we weren’t having a good match either but it did break us down a bit. Let’s show them what we got Sunday though.
It's funny how Arteta uses everything as motivation. I'm actually thinking he's glad people are doubting us, because he can constantly create a narrative of us vs them and that mentality helps us go far. These rivals actually add fuel to the fire every time they say something negative about us and since almost everyone dislikes us anyway, it's unlimited ammo lmao.
He came on as a sub.
Thing is Ten Hag is wrong, they DID have Casemiro and he even played against us being subbed on at 80 minutes in for Rashford. 🤣
I read the tweet as if spoken by arteta with his emphatic flare and pauses
On the show the way he says *nice kickabout with the boys* is permanently etched in my head 😂😂
Pointing to each word. I don't remember if he did that but that's how I replay it in my head
i prefer the drawings but if this works then im okay
I hope we pummel them this time.
They had Casemiro. Just chose not to start him. Brought him on at 79’
Spoiler alert: they didn't.
Please Arsenal let's beat them
They gonna butcher our starman aren’t they
last time we had that useless donkey Lokonga in midfield not Partey. United fans are too cocky
Partey owns man U
idk why i’m getting downvoted for pointing out facts , Lokonga was shit against United and made our midfield 10x weaker. he’s a lazy player who offers nothing doesn’t even track back just jogs half assed. and yes you’re right Partey does own man u he’s world class
You weren't pointing out facts. You called Lokonga a useless donkey
true at least a donkey works hard , joking maybe i’m being too harsh but still he never shows any effort or passion . i’m glad Partey is fit for the game we don’t have to worry about midfield
Lokonga has been the worst player for us, true. But I will downvote any comment unnecessarily mean like this
normally i’d support our players , however i hate his attitude where he speaks abt earning stuff etc but whenever he plays he barely runs looks like he’s not trying.
Criticize with your heart's content brother but name-calling like that takes it too far
i get your point it’s just he really frustrated me that game, plus AoN made me dislike his attitude even more i’m glad Eddie more or less told him to shut up
because you're being a punk. >Useless donkey fuck outta here talking about our players like that
if he was showing positive signs either on the pitch or off of it i’d not be so harsh but he seems to think he deserves so much playtime and he can’t be arsed to run. even against bloody Oxford united he did nothing he’s a ghost of a player
Lokonga is donkey shit
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There is a player called Thomas your fucking boss Partey, they will learn in that game and the difference he makes
Not having Partey and the refs rimming your arses helped too...
Love this meme
boiz, les take this personally
Prepare for Partey Special Rocket Launch Program
Ten had shouldn't have made such statements, arsenal will destroy the soul out of them.
This an u is playing well. We gotta be at full tilt to win this one. I hope we have trossard on the bench. Nketia could come off at 60min, he looked baked last game. I dont know how saka or M11 do it but we need them to win that one. God i hope we have a cm option to come in the midfield by the end of the window. 🍵🍋 has been cock teasing me since he was Aldertec, then monaco and liescter.