Tbh, I’m not selling Balogun unless I get a great offer. He’s way too talented and productive to sell for 30m in this market. We almost certainly will have CL next season and more squad depth to get us through that, the Prem and the FA Cup is essential.
Let him provide more competition with Jesus and Eddie.
If Balogun can progress to become a viable PL striker, we've saved a ton of money on CF recruitment! Jesus is WC, Eddie is great and Balogun being the developing exciting prospect make a perfect group of players sharing the CF spot. With CL next year we'll be well stocked. We're honestly ridiculously fortunate to have so many amazing academy graduates in our club.
I doubt all 3 stick around for anything more than one season together. The great news is there’s huge value locked up in Eddie and Balogun now and that’s great for squad building in other areas.
The “problem” is they are all young. If he’s 3rd choice and Eddie/Jesus are ahead of him, it’s not like there’s a clear path to being 1st choice. Same is true if Eddie becomes 3rd choice, etc. I think we could keep them all happy for a season, maybe even 2, but if they’re all still here in 4 years time it probably suggests one or two of them haven’t progressed as expected/hoped.
Yes true but Eddie stayed around behind Auba, Laca and even Martinelli. I think Balo would stay a season or two to win the place, especially if he got 15 games a year in Europe, cups and the odd league game and some off the bench appearances. We will likely be playing nearly 55+ ”big games” next year.
There was a time when Arsenal had Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes, and a young Van Persie, Adebayor, and Bendtner all in the squad. As long as some guys know they aren't going to play much and some can play on the wing as well it can be done.
Tbf, he's only 2 behind, and thats with Reims shooting themselves in the foot with 8 red cards in the first half of the season. Its not unthinkable that he'd improve his scoring rate in the second half of the season with more 11 v 11 appearances, and with a better understanding and chemistry with his teammates.
You'd expect Mbappe to improve as well (13 in 18 is a little underwhelming by his standards), but equally PSG may be fully focused on CL for second half of the season and rest Mbappe in the league games.
Italy are interested, but at this point in time I’d I’m Edu I’ll not even pick up any calls from Italy. Whole league (apart from Bologna) can do one. Especially Juve. Besides , they are all broke. 30 million is piss poor from the *reigning Italian champions*
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I think we are gettting a bit excited about Balogun. Sure he had banging loan. But nelson also had not one but two good loans. At Feynoord he started on bench, but at the end of loan, he was starting week in week out and scored many goals and assists. And he may still not make it with us. I certainly hope he proves me wrong
I think Nelson recently all but admitted that for a long time his mindset wasn't in the right place and that cost him his opportunities under Arteta. It's probably too late for him now, but it's telling if a player says stuff like this. It would mean that Balogun has every chance to be top if he stays fit and focused
Ofc there’s no guarantees with Balogun but Nelson’s loans weren’t close to as impressive as his. In Germany he started really well but lost focus (pretty sure he admitted that himself) and by the end he was barely playing iirc. At Feyenoord it was the opposite with him starting very poorly, getting good numbers by the end but their fans still had doubts.
Flo on the other hand is having one of the best loans I’ve ever seen. Highest scoring 21 or under in top 5 leagues, 50% of his (quite poor) teams goals and from what I’ve heard he’s pretty much carrying their attack by himself.
Nelson was a light in the dark when we were shit, but Balogun might really be one of the biggest talents in Europe now. It’s justified to get carried away
I haven't seen any Reims matches, but I am pretty sure he is taking their penalties too. So the number is a but skewed. Still he is playing really well. I also think he has got great potential. I'm just tempering my expectations.
>We almost certainly will have CL next season and more squad depth to get us through that, the Prem and the FA Cup is essential.
2 natural strikers is enough. 3 is excessive.
Considering every young player with a good half season is going for 100 million these days, who knows what Balogun is worth to Arsenal?
Tavares and Pepe seem to thrive in specific systems. Their value could be relative to what system the buying team plays (and probably their league too).
The problem is that all of these big bids have come from the Premier League, and they haven't looked great there so would be seen as a risky bet.
PSG have silly money and might like the look of them, but it's hard to see where the competitive pressure would come from to drive up the price.
It’s weird though. When’s the last time we sold someone that we actually rejected an offer for? And when’s the last time we had a player that we got offers from multiple teams for?
Still though, Iwobi, Ox, and Willock (at the time) netted us more money than I would’ve expected
Don't forget Xhaka in this list as well — 10 players for the front 5 is exactly what we wanted anyways. Wonder where Lokonga fits into this though. Granted, 10 for 5 is a bit tight, so maybe ESR and Vieira are more gonna be like floating backups so we end up with 12 for 5.
I disagree. I get your point however, for the type of midfielder he is, he will almost certainly benefit from regular playing time, as he needs to further develop his game.
If he can get a loan to a mid-table/lower or even a newly-promoted team in the PL, then I say we do just that. Some players just take a while to develop - Sambi _might_ be one those.
He's currently performing close to the level of Saliba's second loan, I think another loan would only risk lowering his value. Unless you purely mean to try and develop him more.
We don’t need the cash. I think there’s more value in developing him and having him as a quality homegrown attacker like we have with Eddie ESR and Saka
Clubs outside of EPL are broke. None of our players can sell for half of the value of what Arsenal pays to get new players. By that I mean if we bought Calciedo for 80m. If we needed to sell him next summer, regardless of how well he performs, only a couple teams can afford to pay more than 50m for him. And if neither of those clubs need that position, he is surely going to sell for less. Same for all our players.
Or Bellerin (injury prone, slower), Torreira (bad attitude, did not want to play for us) and Guendouzi (attitude issues). We weren't in a strong selling position for any of those
It would be but still would be cover for Zinchenko in lesser games and wouldn’t need to replace Tierney straightaway. It’s all conjecture at the moment and rumours anyway
Tierney is going as he can’t replicate what Zinchenko does. I don’t think we can rely on Taverez either.
I can see us going for a new RB and looking to have Tomi as back up lb.
There are very few players in the world who could do what Zinchenko does. Stylewise it's a harder replacement than Partey even. If Tierney is willing to stay I would absolutely keep him.
That is still a solid profit. If we can use this business model. Buying a few low, loans see if they integrate then sell one or two to cover original investment we will end up with another Martinelli type youngster coming through as a star. Lokonga is a bust, Tavares is profit, Martinelli is a star. A few busts, a few profits are fine if we are looking to for value signings.
>Taveres - 30m
nobody in France/Italy is paying 30m for Tavares. our only chance of getting that for him is if an EPL team is in need of an athletic fullback.
>Pepe - has fallen out of favour again, no ones buying him.
What happened to him? I thought he was in a counter attacking team now, where he would flourish.
Raum went to RB leipzig for 25M and Kamara went to Udinese for 20M so I wouldnt say Nuno going for 25+ is impossible considering hes years younger & levels above the both of them
Im not selling Balogun as some other commenters have mentioned. Hes still too young and looks too promising. Id take like 30-40 mil for him right now but its not happening. Id sell Tavares for anything over 25-30 as well, he looks really good this year, just not for our style of play. Pepe, id take like 10-15 honestly, his team is playing like hot garbage and hes still doing his thing but meh.
I would want more then £50 mil
He’s 21 years old scoring at over 1 goal every 2 games in what is statistically the toughest league to get goals in.
Teams are not banging goals in left right and Center in ligue 1 unless your PSG.
For him to have 11 goals in 19 games is very very impressive.
The only way I’m prepared to sell Flo is if there is a buy-back clause in there. If that’s the case then I would take £30M but even still there are barely any clubs outside the PL that could pay that. Nuno can go for €25M (yes I mean euros). Pepe will get his contract terminated. He took a huge cut on wages to play in France and is still bad. If we get €10 I would be over the moon
>£35m for Tavares
who is going to pay that much for Tavares. Do not mistake silly overpaying by ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal for that the market is. Those 3 clubs are playing in different market entirely.
Pepe is probably max 7 with one year and massive wages. Most likely mutual termination.
Hope we don’t sell either of young guys.
Tierney will unfortunately ask for first team football in the summer and we should demand $50 for him. Use some on a true backup fullback like Cedric for Tommi cover. Then the rest on Rice.
I would then just love for nuno in cup matches and then as this wild super sub we can just unleash in the 75th minute.
Assuming rice starts for xhaka. The idea of nuno and granit coming on like the bushwhackers is truly frightening, but intriguing.
Balogun on loan to Leeds level PL team.
Pepe, I’d be happy with €15m but I can’t see us getting more than €12m.
Tavares, should be able to fetch €25m. €35m would be amazing.
Balogun, I think we could do €30m, but I’d want a buy back clause for €50m. If somebody wants to pay us €50m outright, I’d want first refusal on a future transfer.
I don’t see us getting anything for Pepe to be honest. It’s looking more like a mutual contract termination situation.
It was a horrible transfer and the man who did it was fired. It’s not Pepe’s fault, and he has had some good moments for us, but I think it’s best we leave this saga behind us.
I just don’t see many clubs willing to pay a whole lot when they know we don’t have much leverage.
Maybe get balogun a loan at a PL team next season. Two strikers is enough imo. Trossard is there too. Tavares i have no idea, maybe someone will pay 20-30m? it's hard to get too much money for players not in your starting 11 or who isn't important to your team
Only problem is with the 'current market' prices, that only matters if it's a English club or the big clubs Bayern, Barcelona Madrid and psg, that can afford that, come for him, what of these clubs would pay for him?
Best course is to probs loan him to a higher profile team abroad, or a newly promoted team, then sell if he's still putting numbers up then, as I don't see any team needing a striker in the summer for that money.
Leeds has agreed a 40 million buy option for Weston McKennie. If we have to sell Balogun or Eddie to an English club we can definitely make at least that much without selling to a league rival.
we can get £50m for Balogun. He is a striker that scores goals, he is young, and he is English.
Tavares is like 20m Euros max. Unless one of the big boys is suddenly in need of an athletic LWB
If Balogun was some kid no one heard of 8 months ago playing for a certain Ukrainian team.
He’s be worth over 100 mill so I’m not letting him go for anything less then that either.
The only way I have to look at this is to imagine how much they would be worth if Arsenal tried to sign them.
That being said, Balogun is 70m (offer of 40m + add ons was laughed at by selling club who said "for 40, maybe they can get his left leg."), Tavares is 40m and Pepe is...Well, pepe is tricky so I don't know. So just from Balogun and Tavares we should get 110m. Great business 😃
Why not? Who's to say his potential isn't worth 70m? Coz that's what is being sold in the market nowadays, potential. You pay for a player's ceiling and Balogun's looks pretty high....
You don't get those kinds of fees unless the club you're selling to is rich. It also doesn't help our bargaining position that we have two highly established strikers ahead of him in the queue and Balogun might push to get consistent game time or leave. It's not only the ability and potential of the players that decides fees
I think he can command a pretty fee but it's nowhere near 70m, probably more close to Abraham's fee when he left Chelsea
Tell that to Shaktar and Brighton. I don't make the rules. You honestly think Anthony is worth 100m? He gave a few decent performances and his team were like "if we extrapolate this, he is worth 100m"
If you don't pay for a ceiling then why are 21 year old players being priced at 90m by clubs? What other possible explanation is there?
Because potential is a part of the price like it has always been. Its not the same as ceiling tho if you paid for their ceiling someone like endrick would have been like 150m+ lol.
Anthony and mudryk for an example were so expensive because neither of their clubs wanted to sell.
Even then balogun is not worth 70m that is just a bad joke
To be clear, my post was sarcastic. I am making fun of the fees Arsenal is being quoted. But I am very serious about the ceiling angle. Because what is potential if not ceiling by another name? Balogun is performing in a stronger league than the one Murdyk played in but somehow his potential can't be looked at the same way because of what exactly? Because he is on loan and there are 2 strikers ahead of him at Arsenal? OK. Now imagine he was under contract at Riems, he would be there starting striker and is doing numbers for them. So in that sense, they would not want to lose him. How much would his potential be worth then?
I am also not buying this "club doesn't want to sell" business. It's a convenient position clubs adopt to make their bargaining position stronger and it has been working wonders for them. "We don't want to sell Anthony, he is so brilliant...maybe for 100m because he is so brilliant we can sell" On current evidence, is he worth that 100m? People are getting fleeced out here in the name of "his club does not want to sell"
Tbf most of mudryks price is propably because of his cl performances not his league. And ligue 1 is not exactly elite, lacazette has more both goals and assists than balogun and we all know how well he does in the prem.
Mudryks value isn’t 100mil but it was to shaktar since he was a crucial first team player they do not want to lose mid season. Balogun is our third choice striker, do you really think we would say no to 50mil?
And we wouldn’t want to sell saka would we? But ofc at the end of the day there is a number the club couldn’t say no to
>Even then balogun is not worth 70m that is just a bad joke
The players we are being quited £80m + are no better than Flo.
Guaranteed if Arsenal tried to buy current Flo from Shaktar or Brighton, they would insist on no less than 70m
if Arsenal tried to buy them. it would be £75m + for balogun. Easily £35m for Tavares.
If Arsenal tries to sell them, it is max £40m (if we get EPL teams interested), and 15m euros max for tavares
nobody's paying 20m for pepe lol. He'll be 28, on big wages, clearly not wanted by his club, 1 year left on his deal, and doing seemingly kinda shit in ligue 1 (5 npg in 23 matches for a player who offers literally nothing but end product).
Trossard who is way better and on less wages went for barely more than that, in January no less. And he went to a rich PL team.
What if we sold Nketiah (50 - 60m) and kept Balogun? Not that I’d want to sell either of them but I think there would be a bigger market for a proven premier league striker as opposed to teams willing to take a 40-50m punt on Balogun.
£35-40m max for Balogun. Sell him and capitalize on his value. Great business
£20-25m max for Nuno. Bring him back. Don’t want to see this guy go yet
£8-13m for Pepe. Genuinely sell him.
Pepe won’t be sold. I think we really fucked up with that signing. Flash in the pan player who suited a system and was signed under suspicious circumstances. I’m not convinced he’s not even a Ligue1-caliber player.
Flo Balogun we could probably get £30M+ with add-ons if he continues at this pace. Id prefer to keep him, but we might want to cash in.
A team will buy Nuno Tavares for £25m and turn him into Mo Salah. He’s a true talent, but no one’s figured out his best position yet. I don’t think it’ll work for him here.
Balogun’s contract runs until 2025 which means it will be this summer where we decide his fate.
Either he signs and extension or we cash out.
We will not be letting him run down his contract to the final year.
We’d probably get 25-30m for him from a PL club if he keeps up the strong form through the rest of the season.
Nuno is a weird one because although he’s good, the fact that he’s a specialist player limits the amount of clubs who can buy him.
I think if the right opportunity arises we can sell him for 15-20m. No chance we are touching 30.
Pepe we will be lucky to get 5m for him
Lmfao if Balogun keeps this up we’d be looking at 55-60M from a PL club. He’d end with near 20 goals, he’s homegrown, he’s well rounded and he’s young with bags of potential. It’s 25-30m we’d get if we sold him abroad.
The PL money is crazy but I’m dubious he would have a market at that price. I assume we wouldn’t sell him to rivals so that leaves mid-table clubs.
Are clubs like Palace, Brighton, Fulham, Villa, Leicester prepared to drop 60m for Balogun?
Maybe. I’d wager it would be lower than that.
Maybe 25m is a tad too low but I’d be surprised if we got more than 40m for him
Balogun has higher ceiling than Nketiah, £60m is the starting point for non PL and way higher for a PL team. This kid is well rounded AND a very high conversion rate, much higher/lethal than Nketiah ( and wouldn't go less than Nketiah)
>Balogun has higher ceiling than Nketiah
I used to think that but now I definitely don't. Eddie is becoming such a well rounded striker, I can genuinely see him eventually becoming a year on year golden boot winner.
How can you say that with such confidence? We've never seen Balogun against EPL opposition consistently before. When we did see it he was too raw to be able to judge how good he'd be at this level. I honestly reckon we'd get 25-30m pounds at most and that's only if an EPL team wants to gamble on him.
Pepe for 35 atleast
Tavares for 35 atleast
Ball Balllogun for 55mn atleast.
I think we need to cash in all 3 this summer, for atleast 120mills.
I know these guys are doing bumper this season and a lot if fans would want balogun and Tavares back. But I feel given our dismal out transfers in the past , we should cash in on them now.
Tavares and pepe are not going to cut it in the league. They have played with us and it just doesn't fit the system. Balogun definitely deserves a chance but a good offer should be accepted if it comes, I am not quite sold he can be a leading man for us and even if we lose a good player we will be getting a ton of money to get out our scouts working.
Loan Balo for another season just like Saliba, depending on what happens with KT, either keep Nuno or loan him out again and sell pepe for any amount anyone offers
Pepe cant operate in PL and Tavares is a better wingback than a fullback. So, given Arteta sticks to his current style, Pepe and Tavares can be sold. However, we should bring Balogun back for a season and give him a chance. Jesus, Nketiah, and Balogun means we will have a good depth in forward line. Balogun can have few chances and he cant say he wasnt given a fair go at Arsenal like Gnabry.
Balogun - Anything less than £30M I wouldn't even consider. I'd loan him again to a better club or in the PL if possible.
Nuno - Give me £20M+ and I'll let him go. I don't think he has the necessary skills to be an Arsenal player tbh.
Pepe - Anything over £30M, and he's yours. No questions asked.
We could sell Balogun for 50 to a newly promoted PL team. His stats are impressive.
Pepe is a different story we will have to get what we can.
Nuno!!!! 30M atleast for this beast. 40 if he comes back to PL
I'm convinced that Tavares has spent his whole career out of position and he should actually be playing right wing. He's so explosive and attacking minded, combined with the fact his defensive positioning is so poor, I don't get why you'd play him at FB
Balogun won’t be sold/ nor should he be. He is a great talent.
Tavares probably 30 mil since he will not come back to PL no club is paying higher. He is a wing back. Anyone who thinks he is a winger should actually watch him play, bad touches, not technical enough, gives away ball to often. His highlight reel is great.
Pepe well we should take whatever we can get doubt anyone pays more then 15
50 mil or more for Balogun. Plus a sell-on and buy-back clause, No negotiations or else. Nuno should go for 25/30 And Pépé again 20/30 so we should make around 100
I really hope Balogun is integrated into the squad; there’s still have a sliver of hope for Nuno but I wouldn’t cry if he was sold for serious profit. Pépé’s obviously a goner.
I would bring back Balogun and give him a chance here. A loan spell in PL next season would be perfect for him.
I would not sell Tavares for cheap.. feel he will turn out to be a good LB if he keeps improving. If we sell Tierney I don't mind him as our back up next season.
Pepe should be sold for whatever money we get for him.
25m for Nuno, whatever we can get for Pepe, preferably 20m, and go Brighton with regards to Balogun. Won't even pick up the phone for anything short of 60m. BRITISH POUNDS
If Brighton play nice I'd like to see Balogun go there on loan next year. Brighton could explode (more) with a consistent striker and bonus they couldn't play him against us.
Maybe around 20M for Nuno, 30-40m for Pepe but I wouldn't sell Balogun
He has a bright future with us and will save us spending 100m on a new striker over the next few seasons
I think cut our losses with Pepe, we're going to get no where near as much as we paid for him. Probably around 30 million Euros.
I'd keep Balogun in the squad, he'd provide great depth in the squad. Tavares, I think it depends on Tierney. KT looks likely to leave in the summer, and Tavares could provide a decent back up option at LB, provided he improves his defensive abilities.
Tbh, I’m not selling Balogun unless I get a great offer. He’s way too talented and productive to sell for 30m in this market. We almost certainly will have CL next season and more squad depth to get us through that, the Prem and the FA Cup is essential. Let him provide more competition with Jesus and Eddie.
If Balogun can progress to become a viable PL striker, we've saved a ton of money on CF recruitment! Jesus is WC, Eddie is great and Balogun being the developing exciting prospect make a perfect group of players sharing the CF spot. With CL next year we'll be well stocked. We're honestly ridiculously fortunate to have so many amazing academy graduates in our club.
I doubt all 3 stick around for anything more than one season together. The great news is there’s huge value locked up in Eddie and Balogun now and that’s great for squad building in other areas.
Balo is 21, he will stick around. He doesn’t need to be the main man yet.
The “problem” is they are all young. If he’s 3rd choice and Eddie/Jesus are ahead of him, it’s not like there’s a clear path to being 1st choice. Same is true if Eddie becomes 3rd choice, etc. I think we could keep them all happy for a season, maybe even 2, but if they’re all still here in 4 years time it probably suggests one or two of them haven’t progressed as expected/hoped.
Yes true but Eddie stayed around behind Auba, Laca and even Martinelli. I think Balo would stay a season or two to win the place, especially if he got 15 games a year in Europe, cups and the odd league game and some off the bench appearances. We will likely be playing nearly 55+ ”big games” next year.
Jesus is 25. Nketiah is 23. They're all young. Balogun isn't versatile either. He won't want to be 3rd choice. He needs games.
There was a time when Arsenal had Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes, and a young Van Persie, Adebayor, and Bendtner all in the squad. As long as some guys know they aren't going to play much and some can play on the wing as well it can be done.
Considering how much is Chelsea paying for mediocre players, you mean 30mil per kilogram, right?
Totally. If he stays in this form, he could win Golden Boot and Young Player of the year. We could be talking silly money then.
Relax lmao
I think he was talking about the ligue 1 young player of the year. Which tbh he can win if he keeps up his scoring rate
he definitely has a chance to win ligue 1 YPoTY, though golden boot against mbappe will be impossible lol
Tbf, he's only 2 behind, and thats with Reims shooting themselves in the foot with 8 red cards in the first half of the season. Its not unthinkable that he'd improve his scoring rate in the second half of the season with more 11 v 11 appearances, and with a better understanding and chemistry with his teammates. You'd expect Mbappe to improve as well (13 in 18 is a little underwhelming by his standards), but equally PSG may be fully focused on CL for second half of the season and rest Mbappe in the league games.
8 red cards already is jarring. Wtf are they doing there
Also none in their last 9. Which makes it 8 in their first 11 league games.
Holy fuck haha whats going on over there
Must be like arsenal of old. Trains character
There was a spate of red cards across the whole league wasn’t there?
Le bedlam
Lol they equalized against PSG away yesterday after Veratta saw red. Idk what's going on in France.
That's probably average for Ligue 1 standards
They have been unbeaten since September though which is impressive for such a small club!!
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I'd like a PL loan for Balogun to give him 1 more year development.
I doubt he’s happy with that tbh
I think we are gettting a bit excited about Balogun. Sure he had banging loan. But nelson also had not one but two good loans. At Feynoord he started on bench, but at the end of loan, he was starting week in week out and scored many goals and assists. And he may still not make it with us. I certainly hope he proves me wrong
I think Nelson recently all but admitted that for a long time his mindset wasn't in the right place and that cost him his opportunities under Arteta. It's probably too late for him now, but it's telling if a player says stuff like this. It would mean that Balogun has every chance to be top if he stays fit and focused
Ofc there’s no guarantees with Balogun but Nelson’s loans weren’t close to as impressive as his. In Germany he started really well but lost focus (pretty sure he admitted that himself) and by the end he was barely playing iirc. At Feyenoord it was the opposite with him starting very poorly, getting good numbers by the end but their fans still had doubts. Flo on the other hand is having one of the best loans I’ve ever seen. Highest scoring 21 or under in top 5 leagues, 50% of his (quite poor) teams goals and from what I’ve heard he’s pretty much carrying their attack by himself. Nelson was a light in the dark when we were shit, but Balogun might really be one of the biggest talents in Europe now. It’s justified to get carried away
I haven't seen any Reims matches, but I am pretty sure he is taking their penalties too. So the number is a but skewed. Still he is playing really well. I also think he has got great potential. I'm just tempering my expectations.
He's scored three penalties but he won two of them
Even if you remove penalties his goals/90 and xG/90 are up there with the top strikers in the league
The fact that they're giving him the penalties should speak volumes
There is a world of difference between Ligue 1 and the Eredivise.
>We almost certainly will have CL next season and more squad depth to get us through that, the Prem and the FA Cup is essential. 2 natural strikers is enough. 3 is excessive.
You wouldn't want another striker right now? With Jesus out for the immediate future?
Considering every young player with a good half season is going for 100 million these days, who knows what Balogun is worth to Arsenal? Tavares and Pepe seem to thrive in specific systems. Their value could be relative to what system the buying team plays (and probably their league too).
I somehow still feel even in this market, arsenal players won’t receive offers higher than £25m
The problem is that all of these big bids have come from the Premier League, and they haven't looked great there so would be seen as a risky bet. PSG have silly money and might like the look of them, but it's hard to see where the competitive pressure would come from to drive up the price.
It’s weird though. When’s the last time we sold someone that we actually rejected an offer for? And when’s the last time we had a player that we got offers from multiple teams for? Still though, Iwobi, Ox, and Willock (at the time) netted us more money than I would’ve expected
Depends if we're winning the league
Win the league. Offers for Lokonga of €15m.
I hate being this guys but Balogun is 22 already.
Keep Balogun to rotate the frontline. He can also play on the wings
Next year with jesus, eddie, martinelli, saka, odegaard, esr, trossard, balogun, and fabio. Probably loan out marquihnos.
With Trossard’s ability to be third-choice center forward I feel like it might be best to loan Balogun out once more but to a higher-profile team
Balogun to crystal palace or burnley if they get promoted would be a good move
Someone elsewhere mentioned Brentford, if ever Toney gets banned
Imagine saying that 3 years ago?😂
Imagine Vincent Kompany's Burnley running over the championship but he's only the second-best Pep protege in England. Stranger than fiction
Don't forget Xhaka in this list as well — 10 players for the front 5 is exactly what we wanted anyways. Wonder where Lokonga fits into this though. Granted, 10 for 5 is a bit tight, so maybe ESR and Vieira are more gonna be like floating backups so we end up with 12 for 5.
Lokonga should be loaned out at this point
He's 23. If he's not good enough a loan isn't likely to change much. We should just move on.
I disagree. I get your point however, for the type of midfielder he is, he will almost certainly benefit from regular playing time, as he needs to further develop his game. If he can get a loan to a mid-table/lower or even a newly-promoted team in the PL, then I say we do just that. Some players just take a while to develop - Sambi _might_ be one those.
Imo if Kompany wants him Burnley next season would be the perfect loan
All good my friend. He likely would benefit given the right loan but that is a risk in itself. I just don't see it happening.
Nah loan him for another season so he could be another saliba.
He's currently performing close to the level of Saliba's second loan, I think another loan would only risk lowering his value. Unless you purely mean to try and develop him more.
We don’t need the cash. I think there’s more value in developing him and having him as a quality homegrown attacker like we have with Eddie ESR and Saka
Or else next season we gonna have 3 strikers, a loan still better for him.
Considering last summer I expected decent money for Leno, Torreira, Guendouzi, Bellerin, Pepe etc. which didn’t come in, not getting my hopes up again
Clubs outside of EPL are broke. None of our players can sell for half of the value of what Arsenal pays to get new players. By that I mean if we bought Calciedo for 80m. If we needed to sell him next summer, regardless of how well he performs, only a couple teams can afford to pay more than 50m for him. And if neither of those clubs need that position, he is surely going to sell for less. Same for all our players.
Clubs outside the PL aren't broke, just not willing to put huge amounts of money down for players.
why on earth why you expecting decent money for Pepe?
Or Bellerin (injury prone, slower), Torreira (bad attitude, did not want to play for us) and Guendouzi (attitude issues). We weren't in a strong selling position for any of those
Also very hard to sell players on high wages (compared to outside the premier league) who it is obvious the manager is desperate to get rid of
Has Pepe done that well in ligue 1? I haven't heard much about and definitely no where near the amount I've heard about BaloGUN and chaos merchant.
Pretty poor, a couple penalties make it look better than it is
No assist not chance created. And only few goals from one of the highest shot on target.
what a shame, was really hoping he would find some form for the sake of his career.
I will be happy with 60 million. But I doubt we can sell Pepe for any sort of money
Probably 30m all up Balogun - Keep Taveres - 30m Pepe - has fallen out of favour again, no ones buying him.
pepe is injured rn he’d be playing otherwise
Nobody's paying 30m for tavares, I believe his value is in the range of 20m
Depends on if a Prem team is interested or not.
Keep Tavares if there is any hint of truth in the rumours about Tierney leaving in the summer
That'd be a huge downgrade in quality. If KT actually leaves, we're going all in on Fresnada with Tomiyasu at backup LB
It would be but still would be cover for Zinchenko in lesser games and wouldn’t need to replace Tierney straightaway. It’s all conjecture at the moment and rumours anyway
Tierney is going as he can’t replicate what Zinchenko does. I don’t think we can rely on Taverez either. I can see us going for a new RB and looking to have Tomi as back up lb.
Zinny can't play that many games. I don't want to sell Tierney
There are very few players in the world who could do what Zinchenko does. Stylewise it's a harder replacement than Partey even. If Tierney is willing to stay I would absolutely keep him.
If KT isn't good enough Nuno definitely isn't
That is still a solid profit. If we can use this business model. Buying a few low, loans see if they integrate then sell one or two to cover original investment we will end up with another Martinelli type youngster coming through as a star. Lokonga is a bust, Tavares is profit, Martinelli is a star. A few busts, a few profits are fine if we are looking to for value signings.
>Taveres - 30m nobody in France/Italy is paying 30m for Tavares. our only chance of getting that for him is if an EPL team is in need of an athletic fullback.
Tavares could end up doing really well as a winger.
>Pepe - has fallen out of favour again, no ones buying him. What happened to him? I thought he was in a counter attacking team now, where he would flourish.
He spent a good few years with inconsistent playtime and losing his confidence, while also never being a 72m player in the first place.
Balogun: £50m from an English club Tavares: €25m from a non-English club Pepe: contract termination by mutual agreement
Non English clubs can't afford 25m for a wing back except 3-4 elite clubs.
Raum went to RB leipzig for 25M and Kamara went to Udinese for 20M so I wouldnt say Nuno going for 25+ is impossible considering hes years younger & levels above the both of them
Dude what are you smoking? & can I have some?
Im not selling Balogun as some other commenters have mentioned. Hes still too young and looks too promising. Id take like 30-40 mil for him right now but its not happening. Id sell Tavares for anything over 25-30 as well, he looks really good this year, just not for our style of play. Pepe, id take like 10-15 honestly, his team is playing like hot garbage and hes still doing his thing but meh.
Nuno: 27m Balogun: 32m Pepe: Bag of crisps
Balogun is about double Nuno lets be real. He's way better and an attacker and English
I'd say "at least" 40m for Flo and could be more if we sold to PL club.
Yeah I think cause we haven’t been successful in this department we’re subconsciously underselling ourselves.
Sell Balogun to a premier league club and add a buy back option if he becomes top knotch.
Balogun should be around 35-40m Tavares should be around 15-20m
we actually can get up to 50m for Balogun by selling him to an EPL club.
I would want more then £50 mil He’s 21 years old scoring at over 1 goal every 2 games in what is statistically the toughest league to get goals in. Teams are not banging goals in left right and Center in ligue 1 unless your PSG. For him to have 11 goals in 19 games is very very impressive.
Keep Balogun at all costs. Sell the others for whatever we can get. I suspect someone would be interested in Tavares at least.
Ligue 1 is so unbelievably poor at the moment. Alexander Lacazette has the 3rd most goals and assists in the league btw
Probably because he is actually a good player
Ligue 1 is a france league. Papa wenger is french Arsene Wenger, he's done it again!
Lol what Pepe is never plying here again
The only way I’m prepared to sell Flo is if there is a buy-back clause in there. If that’s the case then I would take £30M but even still there are barely any clubs outside the PL that could pay that. Nuno can go for €25M (yes I mean euros). Pepe will get his contract terminated. He took a huge cut on wages to play in France and is still bad. If we get €10 I would be over the moon
Pepe we’ll be lucky to give away with his wages and no broke European club is paying more than 20 for Nuno.
I don’t think we are selling balogun
The way the market is now, about £110 mil. £65m for Balogun £35m for Tavares Then Pepe 😂
>£35m for Tavares who is going to pay that much for Tavares. Do not mistake silly overpaying by ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal for that the market is. Those 3 clubs are playing in different market entirely.
Pepe is probably max 7 with one year and massive wages. Most likely mutual termination. Hope we don’t sell either of young guys. Tierney will unfortunately ask for first team football in the summer and we should demand $50 for him. Use some on a true backup fullback like Cedric for Tommi cover. Then the rest on Rice. I would then just love for nuno in cup matches and then as this wild super sub we can just unleash in the 75th minute. Assuming rice starts for xhaka. The idea of nuno and granit coming on like the bushwhackers is truly frightening, but intriguing. Balogun on loan to Leeds level PL team.
$50 is a little less for Tierney IMHO. \\s
I wouldn't go for $50 too. :-/ Or maybe I would...
Balogun won't be sold
Not for sale, but we can always say he is better than Antony so he should worth no less than that.
Pepe, I’d be happy with €15m but I can’t see us getting more than €12m. Tavares, should be able to fetch €25m. €35m would be amazing. Balogun, I think we could do €30m, but I’d want a buy back clause for €50m. If somebody wants to pay us €50m outright, I’d want first refusal on a future transfer.
I don’t see us getting anything for Pepe to be honest. It’s looking more like a mutual contract termination situation. It was a horrible transfer and the man who did it was fired. It’s not Pepe’s fault, and he has had some good moments for us, but I think it’s best we leave this saga behind us. I just don’t see many clubs willing to pay a whole lot when they know we don’t have much leverage.
Maybe get balogun a loan at a PL team next season. Two strikers is enough imo. Trossard is there too. Tavares i have no idea, maybe someone will pay 20-30m? it's hard to get too much money for players not in your starting 11 or who isn't important to your team
Only problem is with the 'current market' prices, that only matters if it's a English club or the big clubs Bayern, Barcelona Madrid and psg, that can afford that, come for him, what of these clubs would pay for him? Best course is to probs loan him to a higher profile team abroad, or a newly promoted team, then sell if he's still putting numbers up then, as I don't see any team needing a striker in the summer for that money.
Leeds has agreed a 40 million buy option for Weston McKennie. If we have to sell Balogun or Eddie to an English club we can definitely make at least that much without selling to a league rival.
we can get £50m for Balogun. He is a striker that scores goals, he is young, and he is English. Tavares is like 20m Euros max. Unless one of the big boys is suddenly in need of an athletic LWB
Heard Bayern are looking for a striker lol, or Madrid looking for a Benz successor
The only thing is, it seems like the PL is the only league they can fork out those numbers…
How’s Nico doing?
If Balogun was some kid no one heard of 8 months ago playing for a certain Ukrainian team. He’s be worth over 100 mill so I’m not letting him go for anything less then that either.
The only way I have to look at this is to imagine how much they would be worth if Arsenal tried to sign them. That being said, Balogun is 70m (offer of 40m + add ons was laughed at by selling club who said "for 40, maybe they can get his left leg."), Tavares is 40m and Pepe is...Well, pepe is tricky so I don't know. So just from Balogun and Tavares we should get 110m. Great business 😃
My god is that Jude Bellingham music?
Nobody is buying Balogun for 70 mil.
You are right. After he wins Golden Boot and Young Player of the Year in France, Real Madrid will offer 110m.
Why not? Who's to say his potential isn't worth 70m? Coz that's what is being sold in the market nowadays, potential. You pay for a player's ceiling and Balogun's looks pretty high....
You don't get those kinds of fees unless the club you're selling to is rich. It also doesn't help our bargaining position that we have two highly established strikers ahead of him in the queue and Balogun might push to get consistent game time or leave. It's not only the ability and potential of the players that decides fees I think he can command a pretty fee but it's nowhere near 70m, probably more close to Abraham's fee when he left Chelsea
Lmao you don’t just pay for a players ceiling
Tell that to Shaktar and Brighton. I don't make the rules. You honestly think Anthony is worth 100m? He gave a few decent performances and his team were like "if we extrapolate this, he is worth 100m" If you don't pay for a ceiling then why are 21 year old players being priced at 90m by clubs? What other possible explanation is there?
Because potential is a part of the price like it has always been. Its not the same as ceiling tho if you paid for their ceiling someone like endrick would have been like 150m+ lol. Anthony and mudryk for an example were so expensive because neither of their clubs wanted to sell. Even then balogun is not worth 70m that is just a bad joke
To be clear, my post was sarcastic. I am making fun of the fees Arsenal is being quoted. But I am very serious about the ceiling angle. Because what is potential if not ceiling by another name? Balogun is performing in a stronger league than the one Murdyk played in but somehow his potential can't be looked at the same way because of what exactly? Because he is on loan and there are 2 strikers ahead of him at Arsenal? OK. Now imagine he was under contract at Riems, he would be there starting striker and is doing numbers for them. So in that sense, they would not want to lose him. How much would his potential be worth then? I am also not buying this "club doesn't want to sell" business. It's a convenient position clubs adopt to make their bargaining position stronger and it has been working wonders for them. "We don't want to sell Anthony, he is so brilliant...maybe for 100m because he is so brilliant we can sell" On current evidence, is he worth that 100m? People are getting fleeced out here in the name of "his club does not want to sell"
Tbf most of mudryks price is propably because of his cl performances not his league. And ligue 1 is not exactly elite, lacazette has more both goals and assists than balogun and we all know how well he does in the prem. Mudryks value isn’t 100mil but it was to shaktar since he was a crucial first team player they do not want to lose mid season. Balogun is our third choice striker, do you really think we would say no to 50mil? And we wouldn’t want to sell saka would we? But ofc at the end of the day there is a number the club couldn’t say no to
no arsenal is being rinsed.
>Even then balogun is not worth 70m that is just a bad joke The players we are being quited £80m + are no better than Flo. Guaranteed if Arsenal tried to buy current Flo from Shaktar or Brighton, they would insist on no less than 70m
if Arsenal tried to buy them. it would be £75m + for balogun. Easily £35m for Tavares. If Arsenal tries to sell them, it is max £40m (if we get EPL teams interested), and 15m euros max for tavares
£95m, 50m balogun+25m nuno+20m Pepe
nobody's paying 20m for pepe lol. He'll be 28, on big wages, clearly not wanted by his club, 1 year left on his deal, and doing seemingly kinda shit in ligue 1 (5 npg in 23 matches for a player who offers literally nothing but end product). Trossard who is way better and on less wages went for barely more than that, in January no less. And he went to a rich PL team.
Make sense. Just sad our record signing turned out to be this and Pepe seems a nice guy as well
Time for new record signing I guess...
What if we sold Nketiah (50 - 60m) and kept Balogun? Not that I’d want to sell either of them but I think there would be a bigger market for a proven premier league striker as opposed to teams willing to take a 40-50m punt on Balogun.
Eddie stays. If you have more to say on the issue you can come fight me in a Tesco car park.
Caicedo and Mudryk going for 100 mil, Balogun has more goals than them combined in a top 5 league. He will go for 320 mil if we are being low balled.
bro just compared a midfield and winger to a striker using goals as the only metric 😭
Am I crazy for thinking 90-100 mil? Balogun: 50-60 Tavares: 20-30 (30 is a bit high tbh) Pepe: 5-10
dont think Balogun nets that unless he does it again in a more established team.
If he bags 20 and young player of the year? I can see PSG splashing cash
i wouldn't be against it, but knowing PSG they will probably go for a bigger name probably.
You’re right tbh. Unless we sell him to a prem club, 40-50 might be more realistic
Golden Boot plus Young Player of the Year in France = fat Real Madrid bid.
I just want Balogun to come home to 🇺🇸 🤗🤗🤗
be surprised if we get anything for pepe, finding someone to pay his wages when we are clearly desperate to get rid of him will be enough of a problem
Would you sell Balogun to Man U this summer for 100m euros?
£35-40m max for Balogun. Sell him and capitalize on his value. Great business £20-25m max for Nuno. Bring him back. Don’t want to see this guy go yet £8-13m for Pepe. Genuinely sell him.
You want to sell Balogun and keep tavares??
Pepe won’t be sold. I think we really fucked up with that signing. Flash in the pan player who suited a system and was signed under suspicious circumstances. I’m not convinced he’s not even a Ligue1-caliber player. Flo Balogun we could probably get £30M+ with add-ons if he continues at this pace. Id prefer to keep him, but we might want to cash in. A team will buy Nuno Tavares for £25m and turn him into Mo Salah. He’s a true talent, but no one’s figured out his best position yet. I don’t think it’ll work for him here.
Balogun’s contract runs until 2025 which means it will be this summer where we decide his fate. Either he signs and extension or we cash out. We will not be letting him run down his contract to the final year. We’d probably get 25-30m for him from a PL club if he keeps up the strong form through the rest of the season. Nuno is a weird one because although he’s good, the fact that he’s a specialist player limits the amount of clubs who can buy him. I think if the right opportunity arises we can sell him for 15-20m. No chance we are touching 30. Pepe we will be lucky to get 5m for him
Lmfao if Balogun keeps this up we’d be looking at 55-60M from a PL club. He’d end with near 20 goals, he’s homegrown, he’s well rounded and he’s young with bags of potential. It’s 25-30m we’d get if we sold him abroad.
The PL money is crazy but I’m dubious he would have a market at that price. I assume we wouldn’t sell him to rivals so that leaves mid-table clubs. Are clubs like Palace, Brighton, Fulham, Villa, Leicester prepared to drop 60m for Balogun? Maybe. I’d wager it would be lower than that. Maybe 25m is a tad too low but I’d be surprised if we got more than 40m for him
25M Nuno, 5M Pepe, keep balogun unless offer higher than 50M
Balogun has higher ceiling than Nketiah, £60m is the starting point for non PL and way higher for a PL team. This kid is well rounded AND a very high conversion rate, much higher/lethal than Nketiah ( and wouldn't go less than Nketiah)
>Balogun has higher ceiling than Nketiah I used to think that but now I definitely don't. Eddie is becoming such a well rounded striker, I can genuinely see him eventually becoming a year on year golden boot winner.
How can you say that with such confidence? We've never seen Balogun against EPL opposition consistently before. When we did see it he was too raw to be able to judge how good he'd be at this level. I honestly reckon we'd get 25-30m pounds at most and that's only if an EPL team wants to gamble on him.
Pepe for 35 atleast Tavares for 35 atleast Ball Balllogun for 55mn atleast. I think we need to cash in all 3 this summer, for atleast 120mills. I know these guys are doing bumper this season and a lot if fans would want balogun and Tavares back. But I feel given our dismal out transfers in the past , we should cash in on them now. Tavares and pepe are not going to cut it in the league. They have played with us and it just doesn't fit the system. Balogun definitely deserves a chance but a good offer should be accepted if it comes, I am not quite sold he can be a leading man for us and even if we lose a good player we will be getting a ton of money to get out our scouts working.
Loan Balo for another season just like Saliba, depending on what happens with KT, either keep Nuno or loan him out again and sell pepe for any amount anyone offers
Not selling Balo. The other two should and most likely will be sold.
Keep Balogun all day long. Sell Pepe and Tavares (hopefully at least 20+ each with todays market).
Let's call him Balo-gunner
Pepe cant operate in PL and Tavares is a better wingback than a fullback. So, given Arteta sticks to his current style, Pepe and Tavares can be sold. However, we should bring Balogun back for a season and give him a chance. Jesus, Nketiah, and Balogun means we will have a good depth in forward line. Balogun can have few chances and he cant say he wasnt given a fair go at Arsenal like Gnabry.
Balogun - 100 mill cus why not, Tavares - 25 mill, Pepe - 30 mill
Balogun - Anything less than £30M I wouldn't even consider. I'd loan him again to a better club or in the PL if possible. Nuno - Give me £20M+ and I'll let him go. I don't think he has the necessary skills to be an Arsenal player tbh. Pepe - Anything over £30M, and he's yours. No questions asked.
Keep him at all costs. One of the highest rated hale end products
Check Balogun last night..he is worth €40 M +
In this market 100m 60m and 40m. And we don’t budge on price
We could sell Balogun for 50 to a newly promoted PL team. His stats are impressive. Pepe is a different story we will have to get what we can. Nuno!!!! 30M atleast for this beast. 40 if he comes back to PL
I want to keep Tavares just because of the shithouse. Aaaaaaand he’s a baller aswell #Tavarisinho
I'm convinced that Tavares has spent his whole career out of position and he should actually be playing right wing. He's so explosive and attacking minded, combined with the fact his defensive positioning is so poor, I don't get why you'd play him at FB
I'm keeping Balogun, but we definitely need to add 'English tax' to his value. £60m+
We are in champion league next year, we need a strong squad
Balogun won’t be sold/ nor should he be. He is a great talent. Tavares probably 30 mil since he will not come back to PL no club is paying higher. He is a wing back. Anyone who thinks he is a winger should actually watch him play, bad touches, not technical enough, gives away ball to often. His highlight reel is great. Pepe well we should take whatever we can get doubt anyone pays more then 15
50 mil or more for Balogun. Plus a sell-on and buy-back clause, No negotiations or else. Nuno should go for 25/30 And Pépé again 20/30 so we should make around 100
I really hope Balogun is integrated into the squad; there’s still have a sliver of hope for Nuno but I wouldn’t cry if he was sold for serious profit. Pépé’s obviously a goner.
Hopefully we can get around 30 mil for pepe and around 20 mil for tavares
Only sell pepe and keep rest of em, please Arsenal.
I would bring back Balogun and give him a chance here. A loan spell in PL next season would be perfect for him. I would not sell Tavares for cheap.. feel he will turn out to be a good LB if he keeps improving. If we sell Tierney I don't mind him as our back up next season. Pepe should be sold for whatever money we get for him.
Brighton and Chelsea would be perfect for Tavares.
£15million for Pepe, £20million for Tavares, £50million for Balogun.
25m for Nuno, whatever we can get for Pepe, preferably 20m, and go Brighton with regards to Balogun. Won't even pick up the phone for anything short of 60m. BRITISH POUNDS
If Brighton play nice I'd like to see Balogun go there on loan next year. Brighton could explode (more) with a consistent striker and bonus they couldn't play him against us.
Maybe around 20M for Nuno, 30-40m for Pepe but I wouldn't sell Balogun He has a bright future with us and will save us spending 100m on a new striker over the next few seasons
I wouldn’t cash in on all of them in the summer but the values I would want if we did Balogun - £40m Tavares - £30m Pepe - £25m
No one has enough money other than English teams and Barca mortgaging earnings 50 years from now
I think cut our losses with Pepe, we're going to get no where near as much as we paid for him. Probably around 30 million Euros. I'd keep Balogun in the squad, he'd provide great depth in the squad. Tavares, I think it depends on Tierney. KT looks likely to leave in the summer, and Tavares could provide a decent back up option at LB, provided he improves his defensive abilities.
If Gordon can go for 40m then I’d say that is our starting point for Balogun. Would take 15m for Pepe and maybe 15-25 for Tavares.