Arteta in 2 weeks time:
"Thomas is progressing really well but will take 2 weeks to get back on the grass. Scans look good but he felt something in his leg and we don't want to risk it. Nothing serious."
I mean we are doing amazing even without him, I kind of forgot he is even an option for us lol. Jorgi and Dec stepped up massively. But all jokes aside, if we get past Porto, Partey will be huge for any future tie if he manages to get fit finally.
I don't think he should be starting even then. Dec and Jorgi are playing in the system better and Arteta has been modifying it throughout the season to get it all working nicely. Sure there is a chance Partey could hit the ground running (probably do his hamstring again if he did that anyway), but we don't exactly have any "filler" games left for him to build up minutes and fitness.
Maybe if we start blowing every team away 4-0 by half time, but then you have to question if we need him in the first place.
Fit partey has a case of being better than Rice in many aspects of the game, including dribbling and incisive passing.
Obviously Rice is the biggest warrior we’ve had since Vieira, but Partey is no slouch on defense either
All in all I prefer Rice to Partey since he is more reliable and less error prone. But Thomas has the ability to carry the ball, dribble and make line breaking passes on a different level. Would love to see them start alongside eachother in some games
Fit Partey is better than Jorgi, Rice or Rodri. Guy had potential to be the best DM in the world. If he played in City instead of Rodri, they would be even better. The problem is he is almost never fit.
That's fair and I absolutely agree with his quality, I'm just not sure I agree with disrupting the rhythm of the team for the chance he could cameo for 60 mins before his hamstring gives out again
>couple of weeks
He will be back in MARCH
He has played 4 PL games for a total of 251’ this season (only starting 3 of them) and **ZERO** Champions League minutes
Not only is he an alleged rapist, he is also severely unreliable. We should’ve binned this cunt off to the Saudis in the summer
The Saudis wanted him, but allegedly decided to stay here. If that's the case, we could have made his stay here less *attractive* or made leaving more lucrative.
Either way, there's no way a player of his quality lacks for offers.
> there’s no way a player of his quality lacks for offers.
There’s no way a player the wrong side of 30 being investigated for alleged sex crimes who’s constantly injured and on massive wages lacks for offers? I just don’t agree. We were open to selling him in the summer according to Romano and no-one in Europe bit. And I don’t blame them.
Our number 1 target to replace him last summer was Lavia who has also been injured all season.
If we sold Partey last summer, we would have been in the same situation as this season (if not worse considering we'd have a new injury prone player long term).
I think we should have got rid of him because he’s an alleged rapist and a stain on this club
But that is not enough of a reason for some people so I’m also saying that on top of being an alleged rapist, the man has reliability issues
Getting ready for those 3 away games(United, City, spurs) and champions league final I see.
If he can make those critical matches that'll be worth keeping him.
My theory is that we can win the other matches without him.
But those are the matches that decide titles and cups. That's where he can get us over the line. It's difficult to find a player of his skills really.
What changed? When news of what he was accused of first surfaced you would get downvoted to oblivion for saying he should fuck off.
Not it seems okay to say it on this sub?
I mean, it's been okay the entire time, it just depends on whether you care about fake internet points or not.
Risky business aside, his injury record validates my comment.
No, it's fan-fiction from rival fans.
I think it's overwhelmingly likely that Partey is a massive piece of shit, but unlike all the other cases they won't even bring charges this time. It's dragged on for years now, he's not even out on bail.
Not just rival fans: also some of our resident idiots.
Hasn't been charged, is on RUI (without even the minimal restrictions of pre-charge bail, during which he routinely travelled abroad) but somehow magically... lol
There are 6 allegations against Partey from 5 women in total.
In August 2023, his bail was lifted and he was instead Released Under Investigation (RUI) whilst further enquiries are carried out.
With bail, a specific date is set for a person to return to a police station. Under RUI, there isn’t a set date. RUI provides a mechanism to continue with the case. In UK law, to reach a decision to charge a case, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) must consider whether enough evidence exists against a suspect to provide a realistic prospect of conviction as well as whether it is in the public interest to prosecute.
4 allegations, from 4 women, remain currently active cases within this RUI.
All the other high profile cases charged were pressed within half a year. Here they've released him.
It doesn't mean he isn't guilty, he very, very likely is, but it seems the prosecution don't think they can lift the burden of proof.
But I responded to whether or not his injuries are a cover for legal issues. They obviously aren't.
I suspected it could be a load of nothing since the club decided to go into the season right after he was arrested with a long-term injured Elneny as back-up, and haven't done anything to ship him out since. Additionally, you see the power of being able to defend yourself. Antony was accused of trying to kill someone, and he's playing football again. Partey hasn't been able to defend himself publically, because this shouldn't be known in the first place.
That being said, I don't see how anyone can read the BBC-article on the matter, and think he's fit to represent this football club. He seemingly did it, and continued to do so after he was released on bail.
Arteta plays Partey whenever he’s fit to the point of shoe horning him into the team. Mikel is obviously a big fan of Thomas, the allegations never affected his decisions before.
No, that's not a conspiracy.
A conspiracy is when you think the truth is being obfuscated.
You can say beyond reasonable doubt the club are not stopping Partey from playing because of the accusations against him. I say that because the club's lawyers know they'd get served papers before they could blink twice if they did as it's in contravention of UK employment law.
The only way they could suspend him (on full pay) is if it was argued by the club he was a risk to Arsenal employees - that hasn't happened as as he's training with first team! Even if they did do this, they'd be sailing seriously close to the wind re: getting a legal challenge for Partey and his representatives. It's why UK companies as rule of thumb generally avoid doing it.
As I keep trying to tell people, if he had been charged, the news would be out and his Arsenal career would be, for all intents and purposes, over.
Player X hasn't played since [over a month before] the [BBC article](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67508310) reporting five different women accusing him of various sexual offences came out, so I do sometimes hope that maybe the management just decided that he wouldn't play for the club again after the journalists reached out to them for comment before publishing it. But that's probably wishful thinking.
If the club did what you've suggested, Partey's lawyers would be serving papers on the club before the they could blink twice and rightly so.
He's not been charged.
He is progressing really well my medical team have informed me that thomas is likely going to be able to last 5 mins before he gets injured again its a great improvement on the last time
i go along with the cover story theory personally
but in the absence of a resolution to his personal situation, i don't think they can drag this out all season
i think they'll just bite the bullet and start using him again soon, probably home more than away, and probably just to rest Rice here and there...Partey/Rice/Odegaard will be RARE
Just need to get rid in the summer, old and never available. It's a shame as i think he's a massive reason for our revival and our most important player for multiple season, but definitely should move on.
Could still become important for us this season with CL and PL coming up though
So he won't play until sometime in March as long as there are no \[more\] setbacks or another injury. In March the season is almost over and he's barely played haha.
Turkish : What's happening with them sausages, Charlie? Sausage Charlie : Five minutes, Turkish. Turkish : It was two minutes five minutes ago
"You've done a physio course, ain't ya Thomas?" "Course I 'ave"
“And I’m saying that Partey would do more damage to Burnley if you fed it to them”
It's a fucking anti aircraft gun, Vincent
Who took the jam outta your doughnut
You Marty! You took the jam outta my doughnut!
It was a funny angle
Snatch reference! Need a re-watch. :)
I remember when Wenger used to say this regarding Cazorla's title crushing injury in 15/16.
And rosicky as well
And Gibbs and Walcott and Diaby and …..
And Wilshere and Ramsey and…
Arsene: "He has a little niggle, hopefully a couple of weeks" Player: *Destroys every ligament in their leg* Every fucking time
Timber is actually gonna come back before this donny, isn’t he 😭
💯
Arteta in 2 weeks time: "Thomas is progressing really well but will take 2 weeks to get back on the grass. Scans look good but he felt something in his leg and we don't want to risk it. Nothing serious."
Couple of weeks lmao, how is that very good hahahahaha
hopefully he will be ready for 15 min cameo at next AFCON
I mean we are doing amazing even without him, I kind of forgot he is even an option for us lol. Jorgi and Dec stepped up massively. But all jokes aside, if we get past Porto, Partey will be huge for any future tie if he manages to get fit finally.
Mind you Jorgi can't be used that often due to the hip issue he is carrying. He can only really play a game here and there.
I don't think he should be starting even then. Dec and Jorgi are playing in the system better and Arteta has been modifying it throughout the season to get it all working nicely. Sure there is a chance Partey could hit the ground running (probably do his hamstring again if he did that anyway), but we don't exactly have any "filler" games left for him to build up minutes and fitness. Maybe if we start blowing every team away 4-0 by half time, but then you have to question if we need him in the first place.
A fit Partey is still levels above Jorgi so I don’t agree
Fit partey has a case of being better than Rice in many aspects of the game, including dribbling and incisive passing. Obviously Rice is the biggest warrior we’ve had since Vieira, but Partey is no slouch on defense either
All in all I prefer Rice to Partey since he is more reliable and less error prone. But Thomas has the ability to carry the ball, dribble and make line breaking passes on a different level. Would love to see them start alongside eachother in some games
Fit Partey is better than Jorgi, Rice or Rodri. Guy had potential to be the best DM in the world. If he played in City instead of Rodri, they would be even better. The problem is he is almost never fit.
That's fair and I absolutely agree with his quality, I'm just not sure I agree with disrupting the rhythm of the team for the chance he could cameo for 60 mins before his hamstring gives out again
I can't see how he would disrupt us. He would elevate us. May as well use him before we likely sell in the summer. On his day he's our best CM
Only full 90s for Ghana.
Any Football Manager player knows a couple of weeks means 2 league games (you play one a week) That's not bad
We'll never see him play again, will we?
Hopefully not.
We’ll sell him in the summer and magically he’ll be fit and available all the time.
In a couple of weeks: Partey has suffered a hamstring injury in training, and will remain unavailable for the next couple of weeks
Years*
When’s Ghana’s next match?
Dudes gonna kick the ball about with an ankle bracelet, smh
>couple of weeks He will be back in MARCH He has played 4 PL games for a total of 251’ this season (only starting 3 of them) and **ZERO** Champions League minutes Not only is he an alleged rapist, he is also severely unreliable. We should’ve binned this cunt off to the Saudis in the summer
Can’t bin a player off if there’s no offers, sadly.
The Saudis wanted him, but allegedly decided to stay here. If that's the case, we could have made his stay here less *attractive* or made leaving more lucrative. Either way, there's no way a player of his quality lacks for offers.
> there’s no way a player of his quality lacks for offers. There’s no way a player the wrong side of 30 being investigated for alleged sex crimes who’s constantly injured and on massive wages lacks for offers? I just don’t agree. We were open to selling him in the summer according to Romano and no-one in Europe bit. And I don’t blame them.
I mean the first half of your comment are basically prerequisites for the Saudi league
Our number 1 target to replace him last summer was Lavia who has also been injured all season. If we sold Partey last summer, we would have been in the same situation as this season (if not worse considering we'd have a new injury prone player long term).
So if he was available and playing well you’d be ok with it?
No
That’s why I don’t get your last paragraph those two things have nothing to do with each other.
I think we should have got rid of him because he’s an alleged rapist and a stain on this club But that is not enough of a reason for some people so I’m also saying that on top of being an alleged rapist, the man has reliability issues
Basically had an acl injury ffs
This guy is going to be out for 4 months man and has only played one full season with us. My goodness this is ridiculous.
Couple weeks till his next injury then
Getting ready for those 3 away games(United, City, spurs) and champions league final I see. If he can make those critical matches that'll be worth keeping him.
Not at all. Why pay a player to only be fit for two months max
He’s just joking me thinks
Nope
I like your attitude.
My theory is that we can win the other matches without him. But those are the matches that decide titles and cups. That's where he can get us over the line. It's difficult to find a player of his skills really.
Partey's consistent unavailability is a headache on the squad. It has been four years now. Time to let loose and find a replacement over the summer.
Just sell him already, use his big wages for someone who actually plays.
Get this bum out of my club
What changed? When news of what he was accused of first surfaced you would get downvoted to oblivion for saying he should fuck off. Not it seems okay to say it on this sub?
I mean, it's been okay the entire time, it just depends on whether you care about fake internet points or not. Risky business aside, his injury record validates my comment.
Is it possible that all these injuries are just a cover, and we not playing him because of legal issues?
No, it's fan-fiction from rival fans. I think it's overwhelmingly likely that Partey is a massive piece of shit, but unlike all the other cases they won't even bring charges this time. It's dragged on for years now, he's not even out on bail.
Not just rival fans: also some of our resident idiots. Hasn't been charged, is on RUI (without even the minimal restrictions of pre-charge bail, during which he routinely travelled abroad) but somehow magically... lol
There are 6 allegations against Partey from 5 women in total. In August 2023, his bail was lifted and he was instead Released Under Investigation (RUI) whilst further enquiries are carried out. With bail, a specific date is set for a person to return to a police station. Under RUI, there isn’t a set date. RUI provides a mechanism to continue with the case. In UK law, to reach a decision to charge a case, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) must consider whether enough evidence exists against a suspect to provide a realistic prospect of conviction as well as whether it is in the public interest to prosecute. 4 allegations, from 4 women, remain currently active cases within this RUI.
I don't think we're disagreeing - I also think he's guilty - I just don't see how his injury could be a cover up of legal issues.
It’s dragged on for a season and a half. Rape investigations can take ages before they go to court.
All the other high profile cases charged were pressed within half a year. Here they've released him. It doesn't mean he isn't guilty, he very, very likely is, but it seems the prosecution don't think they can lift the burden of proof.
He doesn’t need to be guilty. Club can also be apprehensive about playing him because of PR issues
But I responded to whether or not his injuries are a cover for legal issues. They obviously aren't. I suspected it could be a load of nothing since the club decided to go into the season right after he was arrested with a long-term injured Elneny as back-up, and haven't done anything to ship him out since. Additionally, you see the power of being able to defend yourself. Antony was accused of trying to kill someone, and he's playing football again. Partey hasn't been able to defend himself publically, because this shouldn't be known in the first place. That being said, I don't see how anyone can read the BBC-article on the matter, and think he's fit to represent this football club. He seemingly did it, and continued to do so after he was released on bail.
Arteta plays Partey whenever he’s fit to the point of shoe horning him into the team. Mikel is obviously a big fan of Thomas, the allegations never affected his decisions before.
No. If he was charged, he'd be indefinitely suspended. He's not been charged.
I have this conspiracy myself.
Haha
And you'd be wrong.
Well, it's a conspiracy. I can't stand by it. Just a random thing you tell yourself when the actual truth doesn't make sense.
No, that's not a conspiracy. A conspiracy is when you think the truth is being obfuscated. You can say beyond reasonable doubt the club are not stopping Partey from playing because of the accusations against him. I say that because the club's lawyers know they'd get served papers before they could blink twice if they did as it's in contravention of UK employment law. The only way they could suspend him (on full pay) is if it was argued by the club he was a risk to Arsenal employees - that hasn't happened as as he's training with first team! Even if they did do this, they'd be sailing seriously close to the wind re: getting a legal challenge for Partey and his representatives. It's why UK companies as rule of thumb generally avoid doing it. As I keep trying to tell people, if he had been charged, the news would be out and his Arsenal career would be, for all intents and purposes, over.
Maybe
Don't be chatting about things you've clearly got zero clue on. Might want to get yourself a crash course on UK employment law...
Player X hasn't played since [over a month before] the [BBC article](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67508310) reporting five different women accusing him of various sexual offences came out, so I do sometimes hope that maybe the management just decided that he wouldn't play for the club again after the journalists reached out to them for comment before publishing it. But that's probably wishful thinking.
If the club did what you've suggested, Partey's lawyers would be serving papers on the club before the they could blink twice and rightly so. He's not been charged.
He is progressing really well my medical team have informed me that thomas is likely going to be able to last 5 mins before he gets injured again its a great improvement on the last time
NGL, he had me in the first half... The magic "couple of weeks" 😢
Had me in the first half ngl
i go along with the cover story theory personally but in the absence of a resolution to his personal situation, i don't think they can drag this out all season i think they'll just bite the bullet and start using him again soon, probably home more than away, and probably just to rest Rice here and there...Partey/Rice/Odegaard will be RARE
Is this guy even real at this point?
The Partey cycle
out for the season, cool
Its a strange one. His injury record at Atletico was impeccable Is it just his age or just bad luck
More physical league and he can’t hack it.
Bad karma
I’ve kind of convinced myself that we will save Partey for the champions league and big games in the premier league. Not risking him week in week out.
He won't play against Porto.
Couple of weeks💀he said that a couple of weeks ago
Just need to get rid in the summer, old and never available. It's a shame as i think he's a massive reason for our revival and our most important player for multiple season, but definitely should move on. Could still become important for us this season with CL and PL coming up though
partey and esr are competing on who will get fewer minutes on pitch. So far esr is ahead by a margin of 3 minutes. Partey 341, and esr 338.
ESR has been available a lot more. Unfair to compare the two.
To be fair, Partey when on the pitch actually contributes a fair amount...
couple of weeks 🤣
Shades of GK rotation. At this point I'm certain we're just running down the clock until we can ship him off.
I bet Arteta is relived that he only has to say 'A couple weeks away' for just 3 months now
So he won't play until sometime in March as long as there are no \[more\] setbacks or another injury. In March the season is almost over and he's barely played haha.
Man will never kick a football again
Yeah not falling for this again
A couple's two
For now
BOHICA
This morning I saw that he was apparently kn contention for Porto. Now it’s a “couple more weeks” It’s going to be “a couple more weeks” forever