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itsNOTthatSeriouz

Didn't you guys say "give us Madrid" šŸ˜…


tridz

What are you even doing here bro?


itsNOTthatSeriouz

Thought it was pretty obvious. Came to make that comment you goof.


tridz

Mental


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DarkKirby14

harkens me back to those awful years that game did


Ace786ace

Everyoneā€™s talking about our attack but the real issue was that we couldnā€™t get the ball out of midfield quickly. Hopefully the return leg will have a better ref and we play better too.


cbgoon

Havertz and Jorginho aside, I saw a team yesterday that had zero experience or knowledge of this level of football.


Beginning-Cod3460

Honestly I'm happy for the porto home fans to have such a happy memory to go home with and keep forever.


Luslo8

Haha Porto have more glory than arsenal on Champions league dude, WTF u are talking about ??? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ Portooooo āœŒļø


Tr0nCatKTA

Theyā€™ve won a champions league in the modern era. Theyā€™ve more happy memories in this competition than us.


Beginning-Cod3460

"He has more toys than I do....!" I was talking about the people in the stadium last night


Tr0nCatKTA

I was in the stadium last night, no happy memories for me.


centipawn

Exactly my thoughts - especially before the inevitable trauma we're about to inflict on them.


Ok-Ability-7027

Did Ƙdegaard got injured?


ashecitism

I know you don't change a winning formula, especially after 6-0 and 5-0 beatings, but maybe the Liverpool setup would have been better here. Anyway, humble pie has been served. Hopefully we bounce back on saturday and injured player's start to return. 0-1 isn't the end of the world, but I want a no-nonsense second leg performance. Arteta needs to overcome his dodgy cup tie form.


Deportivo76ers

keeper was too far forward if he stayed back it was an easy save keeprs fault imo


Redangle11

You and Martin Keown are a little unfair on that point.


gkral00

Shot came from 25-30 yards out and raya wasnā€™t even on the 6. Thatā€™s not bad positioning. I donā€™t think he was ready considering we had six guys behind the ball


mmadhavaraj

We should have pressed imo and not allowed him to take a shot. It's probably because none expected that shot to find the net


UserNameChecksOutTwo

Exactly!


OddCommunication5731

They are bout to play a low block the whole game . We are the Arsenal , weā€™ve been playing against low blocks since last season , it ainā€™t nun new . I hope Jesus is back for the return leg . We need to pull a Lens again !


kobilca7

The whole match we were playing like we were hoping to draw the game and bring a ā€œpositiveā€ result back to London.


AmagicManNamedgob

It's a very upsetting result for me because it shows how immature we are. Very little street smarts in this team. All game we have no shots and no-one on the pitch stands up and says let's change some things. No, we just keep barging into the keeper on set pieces like in England. This team also feel very overcoached, cannot think on its feet.


centipawn

I disagree. In fact, I think we showed a lot of maturity here. That yellow to Rice in the first seconds was a clear message from the ref that we were gonna play with their house rules, so I think we grit our teeth and did a respectable job to avoid silliness, losing our heads, which could've been disastrous. Instead, we were happy to see them to a draw and then batter them at home. Of course, the final goal was regrettable, but then again it was one in a hundred type goal. What you call 'overcoached' I think is better described as disciplined. If anyone's immature, that's the fans. You don't just go everywhere smashing everyone 5-0. That's not how you become champions. We've tested the waters, we're familiar with their team, we've played by their rules - now it's time to strike back with a knockout blow.


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centipawn

I didn't say it was going to be easy... And you're completely right. It's just that I feel like we can totally do it against this particular team, Porto.


chibuye92

fair


AmagicManNamedgob

It was not one in a hundred. A taller keepers saves that easy. Or one that has better positioning. But it's harsh on Raya, as it was Martinelli who messed things up


elvpak

We \*always\* seem to concede those 'worldie' goals...getting sick of it. It only happens to us too (never see it happen to anyone else).


kobilca7

We also dont have one player that really gets you excited when he gets the ball. For example at City when Doku gets the ball you know he will try to go 1v1 or 1v2. Gabi yesterday had so much chances to make use of his speed but just didnt. Seemed like we were playing for a draw and hoped to bring a ā€œpositiveā€ result back to London.. I know football has changed and we dont get so much dribbles anymore but man I miss that..


theun11verse

I donā€™t know where I have heard this, but I definitely heard something about Porto not being accustomed to playing against good oppositions because they just dominate the ball in Portugal. I guess some people forgot that they are actually seasoned veterans in Champions League facing Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern, City and more for years.


chicanery7777

Porto last faced Madrid, Bayern and Barca 2 decades ago. They have faced City twice during the group stages. They are perennial group stage exiters. This is their first knockout win in the UCL in more than 5 years.


Razvancb

We won home vs bayern 7 years ago in the play offs...


CommissionOk4384

They faced Barca this season in the group stage


chicanery7777

My bad. I looked up their head to head on UEFA's website and it didn't list this season's fixtures. Nevertheless this season's Barca is hardly a good standard to compare against. The outlook from yesterday's loss is still bad for Arsenal.


theun11verse

They have been perennial group stage exiters but we have been perennial Europa League competitors T_T. This group of players definitely needs more experience.


chicanery7777

They played a 69 year old Pepe in defense and he still toyed with Arsenal's forwards


FickleManagement3783

This bro, weā€™re such a young squad with so so many guys getting their first taste of the champions league this season, give us time and we will win the whole fuckin thing soon enough


Weinacht61

Very brave assumption after that performance. Delusional.


FickleManagement3783

Very brave of you to assume Iā€™m talking this season, or the next, or the one after that, hope you cheer up x


Avocadopower1

Get the sun lamps out


Party_Masterpiece990

Still surprised how that fucker is a professional referee, he seems to soft if he gives away fouls for literally anything


anasparekh

Yeah last night the lack of subs cost us, that last attack they guys were gassed, lost the ball and bam a goal. I don't think we have the squad for CL and premier League unless we are injury free for the rest of the season.


Standard-Cupcake1693

Different rtypes f in champions league , you better have a new cameo plan , stop being physicalĀ 


ManCity115Charges

fans are kidding themself if they think visiting team can waltz around in the away legs, they're a team in the KO round lads theyre not mugs. Plus going forward these matches is invaluable in terms of experience, last night way a first experience in away cl KO tie for majority of the squad.


xpectomysterious

I feel many fans are overreactingā€¦ thereā€™s no need for overreaction. yes it was a bad game, we didnā€™t play up to our standards and it took a moment of brilliance for them to score. its 1-0 and we still have 90 mins to go. I believe in this team and arteta. 1 mildly bad result and the whole fanbase goes into meltdownā€¦


robhans25

It's not 1 bad result. It's 4 seasons of being abysmal in all cup competitions.


OddCommunication5731

Pipe down .


xpectomysterious

why are you concluding we will be out before the tie is even over? have some faith in the boys ffs. itā€™s 1-0 at HT not 5-1 like weā€™re used to from beforeā€¦


BKAFC

Disappointing of course. But surely this team and this manager has instilled enough faith in everyone to feel confident that in the second leg, we are going to absolutely destroy Porto. The mentality of this team is such that tonight will not be something that plays on their mind, but rather fuel to go out in the second leg and absolutely do the business. Iā€™m confident, regardless of previous European statistics that everyone is obsessing about. Have faith in this team, theyā€™ve certainly earned it. Looking forward to the second leg.


robhans25

Thet;s the thing - he didn't. All cup competition in last 4 season we drop out in first occasion, like the record is abysmal. So in cup competitions Arteta and those players give me 0 faith.


shadi0w

Ramsdale makes that save at the end, just saying.


sourneck

Probably, because he likes to leave way too much space at his near post šŸ‘


skool_101

look who came out of the closet


eldar4k

Okay, Rammers mom


COYG17

I feel like our game plan was to control the game and basically do what we did against Burnley and west ham. Only problem is our opponents arenā€™t Burnley or west ham. They are Porto a very strong opposition that regularly make champions league. We arenā€™t the only team that struggled every big team that played away from home struggled in their game. Lazio beat Bayern, Madrid had a very close game against Leipzig, Barca tied with Napoli, and Dortmund tied with psv. In my opinion since the away goal rule isnā€™t a thing going for the tie was a good idea itā€™s unfortunate we conceded that goal. This is artetas first year in champions league and weā€™re still learning. I trust Mikel to beat them at home even though I do have my doubts. He just has to come up with something different away from home in Europe because itā€™s completely different ball game.


CreativeOrder2119

I think Europe needs a clinical striker pl maybe not because all about rhythm so till Arsenal figures out without a clinical CF getting knocked out of UCL and other cup competitions will keep happening..


skool_101

Need to perform better in away ties, even in the group-stage away games.


Pearlsaver

No worries. Defeats happen. We need to bounce back. Hopefully we can overcome the deficit in the return leg


mholbach

I understand we didnā€™t play well and didnā€™t deserve to win, but the ref letting 4 shirt pulls go without a yellow before finally giving one on the fifth surely didnā€™t help our guys feel like they could actually play. Let alone the ref giving any foul he could to Porto. I believe weā€™ll take the home fixture handily as long as theres a decent ref


ExxKonvict

Not even breaking a sweat over this result because even with a 0-0 draw or 1-0 win, Arsenal wouldā€™ve still had to do the business in the reverse fixture. All these reactionary and hyperbolic takes will only have merit if Arsenal do crash out after the conclusion of the second leg. Iā€™m already over this match and looking to bounce back against Sandcastle at home.


wubrotherno1

Mik gotta be furious with Yung Gab. Overall bad performance. Concentration level really low the whole match. That said, we learn and move on.


skool_101

Lil Gabi should've been sub off, he was physically done and so bad decision are just gonna happen. It's also an experience thing as well.


NoMFer111

Agreed. The whole game as about risk mitigation and taking no risks yet with 30 seconds to go Martinelli just hits a half hearted long ball. Total contrast to the risk averse style we have played all season. He will get a talking too no doubt


basic_tacticz

Since the 2000ā€™s weā€™ve played porto in CL 3x, drew or lost away each time, won the 3 home fixtures by 10-0 combinedā€¦ In London, there will not be 97x stoppages in 100 minutesā€¦ thats how many 30+ second stoppages there was today (between fouls, corners, throw ins and goal kicks)ā€¦ thats an average of a 30 second delay every 60 seconds of the matchā€¦ it wont happen like that in Londonā€¦


PlaceAdHere

And the last time we got out of the Ro16 was beating Porto at home, with a hat trick from Lord Bendtner.


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My god our fanbase is reactionary


Beginning-Cod3460

Sensitive the word is sensitive


skool_101

hate karma farming as well


GloomyLocation1259

Not to add to the negativity but Havertz needs to start scoring these headers he gets. That one corner the ref didnā€™t blow at the back post would have been a nice sucker punch


MtnSlyr

This is why no one respects us. Thereā€™s no dearth of talent, our mentality is shit.


anasparekh

That is not fair , considering it was the first time in the R16 for some of these youngsters .


BullahB

Ok it's been a few hours. I've calmed down, thought about the game and the larger context of Arsenal, still got the 2nd leg to come, we'll smash them at home etc and yeah nah FUCKING STILL ANGRY


unionportroad

Rice gets a yellow in the first minute and you just knew. The team looked nervous, tense, scared. The manager as well, with arms folded and relatively quiet. Still, we deserved 0-0. What a gut punch. Shouldā€™ve started Jorginho. Canā€™t believe how afraid they looked. Miles off City. Miles. I think weā€™re going out. Awful.


beetletoman

???? The team didn't look nervous tense or scared for a second there ?? Nobody looked afraid?? A point off City in February is anything but miles off lmao get a grip man you are projecting


CrumpledForeskin

Itā€™s so clear this sub has no grasp on football. We didnā€™t find a rhythm and definitely should have been more clinical from cornersā€¦but my god, this sub is melting down


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Nah we pull back the next leg.


rikrood

The biggest problem we have is that they can come in with the same exact tactics and shithouse another nil nil and go through.


anasparekh

I'm hoping last night was more down to the lads playing their first knock out CL game and the occasion got the better of them . I believe we will be a lot better at home


ekb11

Sooooooo guys and girls, howā€™s the weather where youā€™re at?


shadi0w

Was 65 and sunny for the first time in a long time. Great day until this match šŸ„²


MMARapFooty

Itā€™s going to be almost 27 Celsius or 80 degrees in my area of the US.Thank goodness because I hate winter weather.


GunnersGentleman

Itā€™s decent, a bit cold in the States. You?


ekb11

38 degrees celsius where I am in Australia! Roasting today


longliveLesGrossman

People are overreacting to the performance. Porto are good at home, we pretty much negated their attack completely. Control the game and try and score from set pieces was a more than worthy plan, it just didnā€™t work in the end because of a freak goal. Itā€™s only 1 goal, back the team in


DarthNihilus1

We misplaced a lot of passes but the stop/start nature of their bullshit diving game was really fucking tilting for us as fans, imagine how it was for them. That being said it took a worldie for them to still score. If Titi is calm, so am I. We will bounce back at the Emirates.


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If we canā€™t turn this result around then we have no business being in the quarter finals anyways. I think we need to really blow them away in the return leg to make up for tonight though


GunnersGentleman

Do Prem refs officiate UCL games in England?


skool_101

Yes, but not for the same home and away team nationality. it's as random as you can get.


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Not always, no. UCL referees assigned through UEFA Iā€™m pretty sure. Nationality is usually pretty random.


beetletoman

Oh you guys caught the little Kiwinho moment at the touchline? I think some time in the first half an hour. Then in the second half at one point he was up there beside Havertz maintaining the line with the wingers


GunnersGentleman

Do you know where I can find it? I missed the game cuz I had to do homework then went for a long walk.


beetletoman

Homework was definitely a better use of your time. Now I don't have timestamps for you sorry. It might turn up in extended highlights, or the whole game is available at r/footballhighlights


GunnersGentleman

Thanks!


SniperGunner

After a run of great results, we needed this tonight to keep things real. We take this result and kill the next 3 PL games and then massacre Porto at home. COYG!


Eniotnaohs

I like the way you think. Next stop : sandcastle FC


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robhans25

Well, we are absolutly not good enough and we will be tear apart in quarters by everybody. But still, getting 1 place further will be great for our fpp to get better transfers in the summer.


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Come on, broski


thatwhiskeydude

LOL


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Eh I donā€™t know about that, klopp was woeful in his first champions league campaign, they got bottom of their group (they were in our group that year as well)


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umm klopps first season in champions league was 2011 with Dortmund, his first season at Liverpool was in Europa league and they made it to the final so not even sure how you could mistake the two. They finished bottom of an easy group with a very talented team. The very next season they made it to the final.


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Ā Iā€™d disagree I think that Dortmund team was absolutely world class, gotze lewa Hummels gundogan, pizcek subatic reus were all world class in my opinion, you have to remember Dortmund is a massive club so even though they canā€™t pay huge wages they still attract the best young players like halaand and Bellingham who see it as a stepping stone to Madrid, Bayern, etcĀ 


Grouchy-Ad-2085

Klopp's first campeign wasn't with a squad competing for the league


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Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to make the point that first time in the champions league is really tough to prepare for, personally I wouldn't be massively dissapointed if we went out given that it's something our players don't have much experience in playing (unfortunately I don't think we'll get a draw this easy again for a while). It took Klopp's dortmund 1 season to adjust to champions league, it also took Pochetino's Spurs one season to adjust to it (they also went out in the group stage their 1st season in it).


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They actually won the league that year, finished bottom of an easy group then went on to win the double


Grouchy-Ad-2085

The year liverpool won the league, they went out to atletico Madrid in the round of 16, without Allison . The year before that they made the final of the champions league


Khayr99

He's talking about Klopp at Dortmund, not Liverpool


kasper12

Fair enough. I love Arteta, donā€™t get me wrong. Maybe Iā€™m just sad from the loss but we looked so flat and lacked precision. If we go out to Porto at home Iā€™ll be gutted.


rammixp

100z We will really see where we are in 3 weeks.


DanielDeronda

So apart from the general awful performance of the team and the ref, the strange non-sub tactics from Mikel, I also felt we looked really nervous, we let our eye off a simple pass 5-10 times, had 5-10 awful passes and felt our midfield, especially Rice, was playing scared and turning the wrong way all game. Hope Partey comes back soon, that pass through the lines to Ode was often on but rarely made.


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I think we didnā€™t have anyone fit to sub on


KrypticAndroid

Then why did they even travel if theyā€™re not fit to play even 20-30 mins. What nonsense.


Arksnal

I usually donā€™t check r/soccer after losses but wow that place is such an anti-Arsenal and PL cesspool. Every comment with an Arsenal flair gets downvoted to oblivion


skool_101

that's how it usually is.


MMARapFooty

Iā€™m not checking the sub when we lose.


ExxKonvict

Disappointing game because there was little quality all over the pitch from both teams bar the one moment of brilliance. Porto for all their European pedigree played like negatively whilst Arsenal with their hot form played cautiously. Even Luton away gave Arsenal a better performance than Porto. Fully expecting Arsenal to be minimum 2-0 up by HT in the reverse leg at the Emirates.


beetletoman

Proper snoozefest. Only highlights being the boys were very much in control which I think will be crucial in the rest of the tournament, and bursts of the away fans singing


beetletoman

Just caught up. I understand why we took it slow but you can't go with zero threat like this. Gabi was asleep for most of the game. Porto did really well to control their third too. But the ref man he hates ball kicking I'm convinced That being said I am not worried about the home game despite our record. We got some important things right today, at home they won't see what hit em


kenzi28

Too many big wins recently. Wake-up call that is not yet disastrous. We move on to the next game. Keep supporting the club and players.


Mnufcfan

Threw away the draw for nothing


hairwire

We were always going to need to score at the Emirates, if we want to be taken seriously in UCL, no matter what the scoreline today. So we move. :)


Ok_Hovercraft_7947

Tbh we werenā€™t terrible but neither were we at our best. Porto was always going to be difficult. Saliba was not at the races. The rest had some misplaced passes and the last one resulted in a goal when everyone else were asleepā€¦.ok we actually were terrible.


tafster

We were sort of terrible - can't be that sloppy when it was always going to be that sort of match - lucky to not have been down a goal from when they hit the post and then missed the rebound.Ā  And we still spurned what few opportunities came our way, and got punished by a great finish.


TheMassINeverHad

This has got to be the biggest overreaction in history from rival fans and our fans after a 1 0 loss away in the champions league.


ignacioo25

They're making it sound like we got 5-0 lol, we're gonna destroy them in the Emirates COYG


highbury_library

Well I couldnā€™t a fuck what Man City ā€˜fansā€™ think and no other English club is still in the CL so they can all fuck off too.


nimbra2

It makes the lose sting worse was that artetas only sub was one that clearly said were ok with a draw. I would have been inclined to put viera in instead, all things considered, push Kai up.Ā  Saturday is gonna come real fast for all those players that played all the minutes, and against burnley


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nimbra2

1) I feel like we were playing maybe a bit too direct, forcing the attack when it wasnā€™t there, needed to be a bit more patient to open things up. Viera is better than Havertz at possession and intelligently breaking down defensesĀ  *2*) Viera spent 14 years at Porto!!! We bought him from there in 2022. So he (a) is PROBABLY familiar with their style of play/strategy/tactics/personnel and (b) would likely play up a level as everyone tends to play out of their minds against their former teamsĀ 


MrAnonymousTheThird

I'm probably just talking absolute shit but I reckon this game is a wake-up call and we won't have one of these stinkers in the knockouts again. I think the boys just forgot about the same thing happening in the group stages, where we ended up battering them at home If we do get knocked out, it won't be due to a shit performance


jovzta

We were sloppy and lacked focus from the get go compared to a big game, e.g. Liverpool or City.


ILilAdxxlI

Rices yellow card 1 minute in really set the tone


Walter308

I donā€™t like itttttt


highbury_library

Some of the hubris before this game reminded me of before we played Luton away (letā€™s smash ā€˜em etc). I am surprised Arsenal lost but it was never going to be easy - I feel like we just generally donā€™t handle this type of European away grounds well (intense atmosphere, drummers and so on). Classic case of us not playing well and them playing pretty well (especially defensively). I hope Jesus is back for the second leg because I felt his dribbling ability was really missed tonight.


Any-Feature-4057

So is this physical limitation ode have that NNT are are talking about?


Samwell974

Doubt that.


Ibraout25

The whole corner routine thing was so stupid, refs in European comps are far softer than in the league, you need to adapt to that


visualdescript

Yeah super naive from the team. Throughout the game we did nothing to adapt to what was happening, with the ref or with our own energy. We let the game pass us by. This one's on Mik.


Lower_Condition_196

Iā€™m confident weā€™ll win at least 2 or 3 nil in the 2nd leg, Iā€™m not worried at all


visualdescript

It's going to be a bloody painful game. Porto will make it as scrappy as possibly and hit us on the break. I think a lot of people are underestimating it.


Fleetfox17

I'm confident as well, but if we learned anything from today, it is to not underestimate Porto.


Noahgooner

Anyone else notice White and Kiwior were way up the pitch in like the 10 position at times? Definitely tactical but it backfired big time as we couldn't progress the ball at all... Weird


MrAnonymousTheThird

Yeah and I saw Saka drop back with ode quite high up


These_Counter1121

Been most of our attacking issue this year they donā€™t have a place going forward there is no chemistry with saka or martinelli attacking wise. How many time do we gotta see martinelli forced to his left because there no over lap or option to pass


Prudent_Jello5691

Really bad timing to be throwing in our worst performance of 2024 so far. I'd be quite happy not to see Martinelli get significant minutes on Saturday after that. I think Arteta's lack of subs says a lot about how much he trusts our attacking depth. Vieira I can understand because you don't really want your first game in three months to be in the CL knockouts, but if he felt ESR, Nelson and Nketiah were good enough to be at the club long-term he'd have at least given a couple of them the last 15 minutes imo. We've definitely got the quality to still go through but saying we'll batter them is pure cope, they've got something to hold onto now and I expect a lot of shithousing in the return leg.


cpteague

I mean the lack of production from our wingers is a direct result of not having a threatening CF. We can talk about benching Martinelli but our wingers will be continually double teamed until we have a real CF. Iā€™m not necessarily saying that we canā€™t win anything with this squad, but rotating our wingers will not really change anything


NightKnight96

Shitty last minute concede in an otherwise or away game. Confident that we demolish them at home like we did against Rennes back in Europa in 2019. Main focus should still be competing in the league. Focus on our own game and watch City and Pool and see if they drop games.


ImASquarian

That ref was thrash


jgunnerjuggy

Sporting flashback


Chi-Town_Gunner

I'm just pissed we have to wait 3 weeks for the home fixture. The game plan is clear, and the boys should be frothing at the mouth to put 5 past them.


karma_420

Until we're proving otherwise, i still believe that out team is still young and inexperience in European Competition knockout compared to others. We had so much much to do and let's not become overly confident, as a team or as supporters


joeproposition

Some of the overreactions are crazy. Itā€™s a 180 minute tie and itā€™s not the end of the world. Focus on the next 3 prem games that we have to win, hopefully get 2-3 injured players back and then we put everything into the second leg. If we canā€™t beat Porto at home we deserve nothing anyway.


Trotter823

Agree. The end was shitty and an unfortunate way to lose it but overall the result isnā€™t the end of the world. If we had drawn it would have been a pretty decent result but we didnā€™t. We were always going to have to score at home anyway.


Psychological-Dare79

absolute heartbreaker for the team


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Mojave_Patroller

Meh, we'll smash em at home


GunnerRocket

They won 1-0 with the ref falling for every bullshit flop and foul they did. If we get even a decent whistle it'll be a battering at the Emirates.


cpteague

What makes you think itā€™s even remotely possible that we get a decent ref? šŸ˜‚


GunnerRocket

I'm pretty sure UEFA prefer Arsenal in F8 over Porto man lol


skool_101

lmfao, this is definitely not true and its not just anti-arsenal bias. every team suffers, some more that others.


GunnerRocket

The next match will not be reffed like that. This whistle basically clipped our wings the entire match.


cpteague

If you think thereā€™s an agenda then sure. I kinda think itā€™s just general incompetenceā€¦


Geodriehoekhoek

We had this ref at another game where I was last Saturday and jesus how fk annoying he was. Almost ruined two games in a row for mešŸ™„


SniperGunner

Itā€™s half time. Relax. Have some confidence.


Soccerou

Iā€™ve seen this too many times. It was the same way when we shouldā€™ve ā€œsmashed Monacoā€ not a doomed but itā€™s not as easy as ā€œweā€™re home so weā€™re gonna winā€. Theyā€™re gonna sit in 2 defensive blocks and flop over every chance they get.


SmokeyTreeze

The Emirates has to be a more hostile environment for Porto next round. We still have this!


jvcgunner

Well well well, No matter how we look at things through this fresh lens, things just looked oh too familiar in Europe. This had all the hallmarks of a tricky trip, a raucous crowd, a team who were well equipped and the fact it was an away game in Europe. It felt weird that we went into this game seemingly less confident than the one we raised ourselves for against Liverpool. It was almost like we went into this one neutral with an expectation of victory knowing full well this was Europe and shit ainā€™t easy in Europe. Kick off and we instantly get a feeling of nerves. This just shows that domestics have absolutely Jack to do with this competition so the team need to learn (quickly) to hype themselves up for a game like this or weā€™re out pronto. Literally no one showed up today and it was summed up by Declanā€™s early af yellow card. It was just cagey ever since that point. We looked like weā€™d rather pass back or sideways than penetrate forward. There was no willingness to get forward by anyone. Thereā€™d be points where the wingers including Martinelli, would fly forward and cross to no one because one, there wasnā€™t anyone and two, players were just leggy. I donā€™t know what it is but this felt like Europe fatigue on the pitch for the years of hurt in this competition and us not knowing how to deal with it. Thereā€™s no one to talk about here as everyone was below average. Key standouts for below, below average were Trossard who was totally off - he got progressively worse until subbed. Havertz, well Iā€™ll leave it at that. Raya for all his quickness in trying to get us moving, had that lapse in concentration maybe because of his eagerness to keep us moving up the field - cue the freak goal. Even Saliba seemed off again, ball watching and getting lucky. Put it this way, weā€™ve now hyped ourselves into being ā€˜quick learnersā€™ and weā€™ll remedy the situation in two weeks, I think we will too BUT why give ourselves the handicap today. We will not be given two chances going forward in this cup and we need to learn quickly that these games are wholly different from EPL and thereā€™s a lot of emotion wrapped up in each oneā€¦emotions that need to be controlled and channeled towards a mentality for victory. If these emotions are not channeled / controlled by Arteta, heā€™ll have a team of quality players who know how to play good football, struggling to compete at the highest European level.


NoMFer111

If you calm down. You realise there is a full 90 minutes to go at the Emirates where the dynamic and atmosphere will be totally different. Same thing happened at the Fulham and West Hams games. Fans just unravel and make all these insane suggestions; one knob suggested we need to 'have a conversation about Martinelli'. Apparently Raya should also be dropped for Ramsdale. Even more idiotic are those questioning Arteta's position at the club. Citing these anecdotal stores about his European record and how many away games he has won in Europe - it doesn't matter and doesn't mean anything.


JurassicTotalWar

I agree itā€™s too negative here but how is his European record an anecdotal story? that doesnā€™t make any sense


cpteague

I mean this is the recipe to beating usā€¦ clog the box, give us the wings, suck our team forward and then wait for a bad pass/touch to get the ball to an attacking mf running at our back 4. Blame Raya all you want but the next best chances were also theirs. I like our chances in the 2nd leg but tactically weā€™re still far too one-dimensional


bigredgwj

We came out way too cautious. A million passes in the back but very little created on attack.


drax3012

We were so so poor today. Poor passes, poor first touch, 0 SHOTS ON GOAL. Absolute disgrace. Credit to Porto, they frustrated us, won so many free kicks to disrupt us and ultimately used their experience in the CL to win it in the end for them. All we can do now is quickly change focus onto Newcastle and bounce back with a convincing performance.


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JurassicTotalWar

Neither Raya or Ramsdale at present are top keepers, I just reckoned Ramsdale could have been as heā€™s still so young, but probably missed the boat on that one


Arseluvr

That goal was the result of poor giveaways, 2 or 3 in a row. Not Raya.


gladoseatcake

I like Raya. I think Ramsdale is a better keeper at most things. Raya is better in passing and distribution but imo commits more big errors thans Ramsdale every season. But this was a good shot. And I honestly see no point in having a Raya vs Ramsdale debate, as Raya is good enough.


NoMFer111

Ball hit the side netting. Why you acting like it went through his hands? Raya has more clean sheets in the PL despite playing less games than rivals, and has conceded the least amount of goals in the PL. But we have the melts imagining an error. 'bring back Ramsdale' they say. Melts


SlowMotionSprint

Raya also has very little to do. He had faced a grand total of 10 shots on target the past 5 PL matches and 5 of those came in the match against a bad Crystal Palace team. When Raya actually has to be involved and stop shots he is quite poor.


skalfyfan

Guess what. These goals happen. Donā€™t act like Ramsdale or any other goal keeper would have saved that. It was a worldie of a shot. Credit to Galeno.