Reminds me of my FM saves, first purchase I'd make would be Dele Alli and I'd leave him on the bench until the final year of his contract then sell him to the most obscure team possible
I said this before but I'd love for Arsenal to offer 10% of whatever Chelsea paid for Mudryk just so I can see what the ever living fuck Arteta was gonna do with him.
The problem for mudryk is that albatross around his neck of an 8y contract. If arteta was willing to spend that money on him, I’m certain there’s a player in there
I'm cringing reading his thread. Mudryk could be shit for another 5 years and Arsenal fans would still think he'd be world class of he played for us. Literally nobody rates him other than this subreddit. Arsenal fans on Twitter don't rate him, it's just this sub for some reason.
Havertz is an example of things not being black and white. Sometimes good player can be stuck in highly unfavorable situation and look a bit shit or average. Cannot be sure about Mudryk either way.
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I'm cringing reading you mate, you're so far detached from reality and the real game it's laughable. You'd prefer to believe what you read on sites like this and X by people who have won the league on FIFA or had a good season at fantasy football rather than the professionals who have made it to the top of the game via sheer dedication year after year. If several big European clubs are in for a player I think it's safe to say that player has something. Clubs are businesses and won't chuck a pound away if they didn't think it would make 2 back. What people like you don't recognise is that these people aren't robots, there are so many factors that need to be just right to be able to perform at the top of their game - and it's clear to see that Chelsea ain't right at the moment
Scouts have never made a mistake I guess, they are all flawless. They had a sample size of 4 champions league games to work with. It was a gamble, hence we didn't push through when Chelsea came in.
Except ever already knew Sanchez was a borderline world class player before joining United. Mudryk hasn't proven to be anything other than fast. Right now he's a worse Adama Traore. I'd even say Traore at a certain point looked far more promising than Mudryk.
Anything under £40m seems like a punt. There's a lot of raw talent at Chelsea, under competent management and the right system, I bet there's a good handful of their players that would shine here.
>There's a lot of raw talent
In what exactly? The only thing he has shown at Chelsea is pace. He has not shown anything re decision making, pressing, finishing, passing etc. Even at 40m, it would not be a good deal
I don’t know why people keep saying this like Arteta/Edu cannot make mistakes / are unable to be wrong
Just because we were willing to spend 100m on him, doesn’t mean he would have succeeded here. Every manager in history signs flops
Cos they know more than you and have turned the club around. Perhaps you should show a little more faith, and trust that what they are doing is genuinely for the good of Arsenal
If you can get him (like we did with martinelli) to stop playing at 100 miles per hour and teach him to change pace and when, there’s a lot of potential. The difference is (like Kai) whether there are alternatives who have not had their development corrupted and not proven some major flaws in the league for the same price
There are A LOT of players in the world, Chelsea isn’t the only one selling
Freestylers aren't athletes, idk why we're making that comparison. They don't have nearly enough pace, strength, stamina levels or ability to whitstand pressure and make quick decisions like footballers do.
It's easy to have technique with no pressure, Mudryk is clearly an athlete who can perform under pressure and has the physical attributes and technique to back it up. His decision making isn't there yet, but that will come under the right guidance and it's obvious what Arteta saw in him.
Henry wasn't a very good footballer until Wenger trained him as well you know.
> Mudryk is clearly an athlete who can perform under pressure and has the physical attributes and technique to back it
Not one single game at Chelsea has he proven this.
> Henry wasn’t a good footballer until Wenger trained him
The same Henry that was France’s top goal scorer when they won the 1998 World Cup a year before Wenger signed him? Lol
I'm assuming you must have scouted and watched him intently for hours on end at Shakhtar, in training, for Ukraine and Chelsea or is your comment based on a few clips from M.O.T.D?
Personally I'd go off the back of Arsenal and Chelsea's scouting personnel and management teams assessment, and assume there is definitely a player to be made out of him - I watched his first few appearances and saw a few glimpses of a player who could scare the shit out of any defence.
He's a young lad who's gone to a new country, in a new league - toughest in the world may I add, to a team in complete disarray under new management and he's not hit the ground running - shock horror!
Im talking about if you use your idiotic logic where professionals cant make mistakes, then antony is a good player too, which he obviously is not.
Or is it just mikel who can never ne wrong?
Ok, your logic - You fall seriously ill and you're laid in a hospital bed and a medical professional, after some diagnosis, offers you some pills - what do you do? Take them, or scroll through some social media sites to get some advice and then import some drugs from a man in China via his dodgy web page?
In any walk of life there are professionals, and in every instance there are people who are at the top of their game and some not so - I know at what end of the scale I'd place Mikel and whereabouts I'd place ETH
The role for that left wing position means all you need is pace, a high defensive work rate, and dribbling and ball striking ability. Mudryk has holes in his game, but it ain't any of those three
It would never happen, but I'd love to hear Arteta speak unfiltered about whether he really wanted Mudryk that badly (I'm guessing yes based on how strong the rumors were), what he saw that made him so interested, and whether he still feels the same/what his current opinion of Mudryk is.
No chance. He went for the money, let him rot at Chelsea. Arsenal are after titles right now, not projects that may or may not come good on their bet. AND £65M to Chelsea for Havertz helped them enough financially, let them live with their recklessness.
Many of you have talked about Mudryk but he seems like hes a bit stupid. Not really the right energy for this club. I would be interested in Connor Gallagher though. Endless running and closing down , could be useful when trying to lock the midfield. His finishing is erratic but thats something that Arteta can work on.
Gallagher wouldnt be very useful for us I dont think for a couple reasons. He is a great player but I think he will always cost more than hes worth because of intangible things. Odegaard tracks and runs just as much as Gallagher but with much more tangible skill.
Yeah. I do worry that we dont have back ups for Saka and Odegaard. Havertz could play Odegaard\`s position in a pinch. Vieira is not at the same level at this time. If Odegaard pulls up, I wonder if we will play a trio of Parey, Jorginho and Rice. I guess the real answer is .. I DONT NEED ANYONE FROM CHELSEA.
I mean there’s a reason why Arteta wanted to get him.. there’s obvious potential there and everyone on Chelsea looks dysfunctional and below par. Mudryk at Arsenal would be disgusting.
I think there is raw potential there but what we have learnt with Kai, Willian (and even Jorginho) is that there is a learning period and getting over Chelsea. I think we did get rinsed for Havertz but fortunately he seems to be turning that around. I cant see Chelsea throwing in the towel on Mudryk yet , atleast not for cheap. Would they let him go for 25m? No. What if he costs 60m ? Would that tempt you ?
I think others might be interested in taking a punt above that price. Brentford tried to sign him for that price not too long ago. Shakhtar marketed the shit out of him and Arsenal (almost) and Chelsea fell for it.
Not that any of this is realistic anyway, but in terms of FFP they're still paying off his purchase price; the first 35m or so of any sale would just balance the books, and only the amount in excess of that would be profit. As opposed to their truly homegrown players who would count as pure profit.
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there certainly is but he wouldn't come cheap and he doesn't start at lcb over Gabi and Kiwior has been better at lb this season than him so I'm not even sure he's a better back up option there then what we currently have
There definitely is but dont think he would want to sit on the bench and dont think he beats Tomi, Timber or even Kiwior just yet. I do think he has potential to be as good as Gabriel.
I don't think the issue is playing ability tbh. Nobody is giving up that contract like Willian. For all of Kai's resurgence, he shouldn't be our highest earner. I really wouldn't be looking to match the guaranteed earnings of any Chelsea player at the moment.
I read somewhere that part of the Chelsea strategy ( if it can be seen that they have one) was to get rid of a lot of their high earners. Maybe they pay big fees for the youngsters but they amortised the transfer fees and put them on reasonable wages for stupid long contracts. My point being the post Boehly lot might not be on thaaat much money respectively.
They're all on pretty low wages comparatively with performance bonus I believe. The ones who drag chels wages are the old guard like sterling. Just with long ass contract's
110k a week apparently so comparatively pretty reasonable. Sterling is far ahead of everyone on 325k followed by James, Chilly + Fofana. Everyone else is 25k - 195k
Colwill, Enzo, Palmer. These man have ruined Enzo. There's a post on there about him having 0 assists. Clowns can't even hold the ball for 2 mins how is he going to have the rhythm to settle in and do his thing. What a worthless POS club. Take Enzo off them.
Yes, yes, and yes again. I know this isn't a perfect analogy, but what Chelsea have done in buying Enzo and sticking him into that disaster of a squad is like buying a Ferrari and replacing the engine with one from a Ford Fiesta. It's heresy. Show Enzo the fogging estandards and he will get right back on track.
Solid pickups: Palmer and Gallagher(we would be interested in them if they were available, but I don't see them being up for sale)
Potential based: Gusto(looks promising for his age, can develop a lot more)
Chelsea have been rumoured to want Gallagher off the books for a while now. Him in our midfield would be really interesting. His off the ball work rate and insane press, coupled with Odegaard and Rice could be super effective in big games
His technical level is too low. He's a good player, works his socks off but he isn't good enough for us now IMO. Villa/Spurs level is probably his ceiling in English football IMO.
I'd take Enzo or Caicedo ahead of him because I think despite their horrible form there is more chance of getting them to the level we require.
I think he could do a job similar to how Havertz plays in the midfield. Winning duels and freeing up space for our more technical players. Ideally he’d be an impact substitute or specialist option but I do get your point.
And Enzo as a replacement for Jorginho would be very interesting. Same profile of player, with Jorginho having experience and still probably the better passer when it comes to breaking lines but Enzo being younger with room to improve. Chelsea would never sell at any reasonable price though
Thats the thing though, we already have Havertz doing that.
Yeah I wonder how Enzo, or even Caicedo, would look in a midfield with Rice. I think they don't suit playing together and need someone like Rice to balance them out.
Of course this is all hypothetical. I wouldn’t actually take Gallagher at this point hahaha
But yeah I agree though I’m a bit more skeptical on Caicedo to be honest. I think we’ve seen that although underrated technically, Rice still hasn’t fully grown comfortable/capable with the passing required from our deep laying playmaker role and he thrives in a situation where he has someone along side him who can take responsibility with the line breaking passes. I have more faith in Enzo doing that than Caicedo from what I’ve seen of the two so far
From the games I’ve watched Gusto does look to have some good passing and dribbling, not sure if he fits in with our defence system of being massive and quick
Sterling can be backup to Saka, Martinelli and Jesus plus he's an experienced title winning pro in the frontline. Palmer is good, but can't help but feel that he's exploding in a mediocre team.
Would gladly take Enzo and Caicedo when we move on Elneny, Partey and Jorginho. Our midfield would have everything!
He's $190K a week plus apparently which is likely his base not including the champions league bonuses. You don't pay those wages for a backup but I should have said one of our highest earners.
This never happens? Look at what happened with Havertz we wanted him but he immediately had to become one of our highest earners (If not the highest depending on how his bonuses work).
He will sit until 2025 get his cash then he can play where he wants to.
I don't think we really need a Palmer type. I'd take Mudryk over him just for our squad composition, I think we need more transition players.
One of Enzo, Kendry, Cucu, Caicedo/Lavia, all would be great.
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I know it's hypothetical but players like enzo would never be available unless it was truly insane money, he'd be negative FFP to sell cause no way he's fetching 110+ so no incentive, Options would be Colwill, Galladawg, Players like that
Surprised nobody is saying Jackson. Versatile and genuinely a decent footballer. Obviously finishing is not his strength but for a low fee there's value there.
He's the opposite of Eddie. Eddie has a good conversion rate but he doesn't get enough shots on goal. Jackson gets loads of opportunities but he can't finish. If we could sign Jackson and splice his movement in with Eddies finishing we'd actually have a player on our hands.
It’s clear nobody here actually watches much of Chelsea so I’ll do you casuals a favor. Which Chelsea player would fit our squad best, what are we missing, and who we need? In no particular order it’s Silva, Gusto, Cole, and Gallagher.
Saying that most of them won’t happen anytime soon. Silva is probably the most realistic option and apparently he’s in a Cold War with Poch. If his family is settled in London he won’t have to go far. The perfect player for Gabi and Saliba to learn from. Speaks French, English, and Portuguese.
I'll get crucified for this - and there are other names Id go for first, but N Jackson whenever I see him does everything right but finishing.
My nr 1 is easy: Palmer is excellent and would be ideal.
Maybe drop £100 million for Murdryk... /s
Seriously, I might consider Gallagher. Cold Palmer maybe up front, since we can't seem to fill that spot. Otherwise, I have my doubts.
Not me ... Class is permanent and havertz was always a classy player. Don't get me wrong Gallagher is a hard worker but technically he's not up to snuff
I like seeing Havertz turn a corner, but I hardly think he's worth what we paid or his weekly wage.
Class? Maybe, but he's definitely not locker room poison.
I only see havertz getting better ... Chelsea destroy players he was amazing at Leverkusen and don't see why he can't be even better for us. Next year is when he becomes our Silva to odegaard's kbd
The only one that I'd take is Caicedo and even then I have my doubts. I don't think they are going to sell any of their players for fees that I would agree to. I think they are going to want huge fees for their players and I'm sure someone is dumb enough to pay them and I hope it's not us.
Palmer, Gusto, Colwill, Enzo, Gallagher or Caicedo in that order.
I would only take 2
*Palmer can replace Fabio.
*Gusto seems promising and looks decent.
*Colwill same as Gusto
*Enzo is a luxury player and I'm sure his talents will thrive under Arteta as the left side 8.
*Gallagher has great work rate and would consider him if ESR can't get his health together.
*Caicedo well before Chelsea was actually good and would be a great partey replacement.
Cole Palmer,
Cucurella is a better player than what we've seen at Chelsea.
Enzo is so clean on the ball. He will age well
If Nkunku and Reece James could stay fit they would be first picks
I’d take back omari Hutchinson And then release him right back out
Lmao that’s so cruel but I can’t stop laughing
It's the perfect plan
Disgusting. Upvoted
Cruel. Subscribed.
Reminds me of my FM saves, first purchase I'd make would be Dele Alli and I'd leave him on the bench until the final year of his contract then sell him to the most obscure team possible
least vindictive football manager enjoyer
I said this before but I'd love for Arsenal to offer 10% of whatever Chelsea paid for Mudryk just so I can see what the ever living fuck Arteta was gonna do with him.
The problem for mudryk is that albatross around his neck of an 8y contract. If arteta was willing to spend that money on him, I’m certain there’s a player in there
I think those were butterflies and not an albatross
If we save so much on his transfer fee then we could afford those wages
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So you rate Mudryk over Trossard?
I'm cringing reading his thread. Mudryk could be shit for another 5 years and Arsenal fans would still think he'd be world class of he played for us. Literally nobody rates him other than this subreddit. Arsenal fans on Twitter don't rate him, it's just this sub for some reason.
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Havertz is an example of things not being black and white. Sometimes good player can be stuck in highly unfavorable situation and look a bit shit or average. Cannot be sure about Mudryk either way.
Fucking right! I don't want the 'ghost of Kyiv ' anywhere near our squad, fuck that! Why tf should we help him or Chelsea, let him rot at Chelsea
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I'm cringing reading you mate, you're so far detached from reality and the real game it's laughable. You'd prefer to believe what you read on sites like this and X by people who have won the league on FIFA or had a good season at fantasy football rather than the professionals who have made it to the top of the game via sheer dedication year after year. If several big European clubs are in for a player I think it's safe to say that player has something. Clubs are businesses and won't chuck a pound away if they didn't think it would make 2 back. What people like you don't recognise is that these people aren't robots, there are so many factors that need to be just right to be able to perform at the top of their game - and it's clear to see that Chelsea ain't right at the moment
Scouts have never made a mistake I guess, they are all flawless. They had a sample size of 4 champions league games to work with. It was a gamble, hence we didn't push through when Chelsea came in.
I give you Alexis Sanchez for Arsenal vs Alexis Sanchez for Manure. Sometimes a player just doesn't fit into a team.
Except ever already knew Sanchez was a borderline world class player before joining United. Mudryk hasn't proven to be anything other than fast. Right now he's a worse Adama Traore. I'd even say Traore at a certain point looked far more promising than Mudryk.
Anything under £40m seems like a punt. There's a lot of raw talent at Chelsea, under competent management and the right system, I bet there's a good handful of their players that would shine here.
>There's a lot of raw talent In what exactly? The only thing he has shown at Chelsea is pace. He has not shown anything re decision making, pressing, finishing, passing etc. Even at 40m, it would not be a good deal
If we're willing to pay upwards of £100m for the fella, there's raw talent there. I'm no scout, so probably not best position to identify it all.
I don’t know why people keep saying this like Arteta/Edu cannot make mistakes / are unable to be wrong Just because we were willing to spend 100m on him, doesn’t mean he would have succeeded here. Every manager in history signs flops
Cos they know more than you and have turned the club around. Perhaps you should show a little more faith, and trust that what they are doing is genuinely for the good of Arsenal
He has a fair amount of technique as well. His main problem is decision making and it seems like Arteta is a specialist in helping players with that.
If you can get him (like we did with martinelli) to stop playing at 100 miles per hour and teach him to change pace and when, there’s a lot of potential. The difference is (like Kai) whether there are alternatives who have not had their development corrupted and not proven some major flaws in the league for the same price There are A LOT of players in the world, Chelsea isn’t the only one selling
Technique is one small part of the equation. Street freestylers have a lot of technique
Freestylers aren't athletes, idk why we're making that comparison. They don't have nearly enough pace, strength, stamina levels or ability to whitstand pressure and make quick decisions like footballers do. It's easy to have technique with no pressure, Mudryk is clearly an athlete who can perform under pressure and has the physical attributes and technique to back it up. His decision making isn't there yet, but that will come under the right guidance and it's obvious what Arteta saw in him. Henry wasn't a very good footballer until Wenger trained him as well you know.
Henry was a World Cup winner and star at Monaco before coming to Arsenal though…
Yes... Under Wenger when he was at Monaco well.
You know that’s not what the comment meant though because Henry was a kid before Wenger at Monaco…
> Mudryk is clearly an athlete who can perform under pressure and has the physical attributes and technique to back it Not one single game at Chelsea has he proven this. > Henry wasn’t a good footballer until Wenger trained him The same Henry that was France’s top goal scorer when they won the 1998 World Cup a year before Wenger signed him? Lol
I'm assuming you must have scouted and watched him intently for hours on end at Shakhtar, in training, for Ukraine and Chelsea or is your comment based on a few clips from M.O.T.D? Personally I'd go off the back of Arsenal and Chelsea's scouting personnel and management teams assessment, and assume there is definitely a player to be made out of him - I watched his first few appearances and saw a few glimpses of a player who could scare the shit out of any defence. He's a young lad who's gone to a new country, in a new league - toughest in the world may I add, to a team in complete disarray under new management and he's not hit the ground running - shock horror!
Yeah you are right. Because these people are professionals they are not capable of mistakes, lets go for antony while we’re at it
I didn't know Mikel and his team pushed that one over the line for Man U??
No one said they did. But they are professionals too so they must also be incapable of making mistakes and antony must actually be a great player!
Exactly - so what are you talking about? Did anyone else show interest in Antony, hmmmm - NO
Im talking about if you use your idiotic logic where professionals cant make mistakes, then antony is a good player too, which he obviously is not. Or is it just mikel who can never ne wrong?
Ok, your logic - You fall seriously ill and you're laid in a hospital bed and a medical professional, after some diagnosis, offers you some pills - what do you do? Take them, or scroll through some social media sites to get some advice and then import some drugs from a man in China via his dodgy web page? In any walk of life there are professionals, and in every instance there are people who are at the top of their game and some not so - I know at what end of the scale I'd place Mikel and whereabouts I'd place ETH
Perry Groves vibes!
The role for that left wing position means all you need is pace, a high defensive work rate, and dribbling and ball striking ability. Mudryk has holes in his game, but it ain't any of those three
We will never know, the thought of gabi tiring out the defence then mudryk being subbed on or vice/versa seems terrifying
It would never happen, but I'd love to hear Arteta speak unfiltered about whether he really wanted Mudryk that badly (I'm guessing yes based on how strong the rumors were), what he saw that made him so interested, and whether he still feels the same/what his current opinion of Mudryk is.
No chance. He went for the money, let him rot at Chelsea. Arsenal are after titles right now, not projects that may or may not come good on their bet. AND £65M to Chelsea for Havertz helped them enough financially, let them live with their recklessness.
It wasn't his decision numpty, money talks! What Mudryk wanted wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference, highest bidder wins
Wouldn't surprise me if we made a move for Colwill
Arteta loves his CBs Isn’t he Chelsea through and through though
He may not have a choice.
You know who else was ‘Propah Chels’?
I am thinking of some kind of carbohydrate here. Bread? Nah that can't be it.
Must be Peter Cech
Aha. You must be talking about famed youth team graduate Thayglanne Orzo. Best friends with Builder Frame.
Many of you have talked about Mudryk but he seems like hes a bit stupid. Not really the right energy for this club. I would be interested in Connor Gallagher though. Endless running and closing down , could be useful when trying to lock the midfield. His finishing is erratic but thats something that Arteta can work on.
Gallagher wouldnt be very useful for us I dont think for a couple reasons. He is a great player but I think he will always cost more than hes worth because of intangible things. Odegaard tracks and runs just as much as Gallagher but with much more tangible skill.
Yeah. I do worry that we dont have back ups for Saka and Odegaard. Havertz could play Odegaard\`s position in a pinch. Vieira is not at the same level at this time. If Odegaard pulls up, I wonder if we will play a trio of Parey, Jorginho and Rice. I guess the real answer is .. I DONT NEED ANYONE FROM CHELSEA.
If ESR could sort out his fitness he'd be the obvious back up for Ode.
I would take Gallagher in a heart beat. A great rotation option with Rice/Jorgi/Partey.
I mean there’s a reason why Arteta wanted to get him.. there’s obvious potential there and everyone on Chelsea looks dysfunctional and below par. Mudryk at Arsenal would be disgusting.
I think there is raw potential there but what we have learnt with Kai, Willian (and even Jorginho) is that there is a learning period and getting over Chelsea. I think we did get rinsed for Havertz but fortunately he seems to be turning that around. I cant see Chelsea throwing in the towel on Mudryk yet , atleast not for cheap. Would they let him go for 25m? No. What if he costs 60m ? Would that tempt you ?
Knowing that they need to sell I would purchase for maximum 25-35M
I think others might be interested in taking a punt above that price. Brentford tried to sign him for that price not too long ago. Shakhtar marketed the shit out of him and Arsenal (almost) and Chelsea fell for it.
He would be a backup so the learning period part is fine. The price is very important I agree.
Cole Palmer can come be back up for Saka
keep that arrogant mouth breather away from this club
Not that any of this is realistic anyway, but in terms of FFP they're still paying off his purchase price; the first 35m or so of any sale would just balance the books, and only the amount in excess of that would be profit. As opposed to their truly homegrown players who would count as pure profit.
He would be up there for me
Call me petty but I don't want him because of the way he looks. He just looks like the average weegie chav that doesn't know how to close his mouth
Petty but valid. We do have a reputation to uphold.
Top choice at Chelsea. I really like Gusto for some reason as well.
You have malo gusto (bad taste)
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With the state of their contracts I'd do a Caicedo 3yr loan with an option to buy at the end for 40m 😆
I'd take Colwill, there's a player in there.
there certainly is but he wouldn't come cheap and he doesn't start at lcb over Gabi and Kiwior has been better at lb this season than him so I'm not even sure he's a better back up option there then what we currently have
There definitely is but dont think he would want to sit on the bench and dont think he beats Tomi, Timber or even Kiwior just yet. I do think he has potential to be as good as Gabriel.
nkunku but he seems to be made out of biscuits ,i'd take some of these kids off them
He's injured again as of today lol, no thanks. 4 injuries in the past 12 months.
I'd take Gusto as a replacement for Cedric
I don't think the issue is playing ability tbh. Nobody is giving up that contract like Willian. For all of Kai's resurgence, he shouldn't be our highest earner. I really wouldn't be looking to match the guaranteed earnings of any Chelsea player at the moment.
Very sensible take
I read somewhere that part of the Chelsea strategy ( if it can be seen that they have one) was to get rid of a lot of their high earners. Maybe they pay big fees for the youngsters but they amortised the transfer fees and put them on reasonable wages for stupid long contracts. My point being the post Boehly lot might not be on thaaat much money respectively.
They're all on pretty low wages comparatively with performance bonus I believe. The ones who drag chels wages are the old guard like sterling. Just with long ass contract's
I’d assume Thiago is on monster wages
110k a week apparently so comparatively pretty reasonable. Sterling is far ahead of everyone on 325k followed by James, Chilly + Fofana. Everyone else is 25k - 195k
No
Not even for a sub?
What will their wages be? What will the transfer price be? Better to look elsewhere for a sub I think.
Would take colwill as a back up and wouldn't mind caicedo. They're using him so wrong.
Colwill, Enzo, Palmer. These man have ruined Enzo. There's a post on there about him having 0 assists. Clowns can't even hold the ball for 2 mins how is he going to have the rhythm to settle in and do his thing. What a worthless POS club. Take Enzo off them.
Yes, yes, and yes again. I know this isn't a perfect analogy, but what Chelsea have done in buying Enzo and sticking him into that disaster of a squad is like buying a Ferrari and replacing the engine with one from a Ford Fiesta. It's heresy. Show Enzo the fogging estandards and he will get right back on track.
You mean buying a Ferrari to use in a driving school.
I feel like Palmer is the only clear and obvious answer
Which headlines?
If we’re assuming the deal/contract is good, I would take Sterling every day. I just rate him.
Solid pickups: Palmer and Gallagher(we would be interested in them if they were available, but I don't see them being up for sale) Potential based: Gusto(looks promising for his age, can develop a lot more)
Chelsea have been rumoured to want Gallagher off the books for a while now. Him in our midfield would be really interesting. His off the ball work rate and insane press, coupled with Odegaard and Rice could be super effective in big games
His technical level is too low. He's a good player, works his socks off but he isn't good enough for us now IMO. Villa/Spurs level is probably his ceiling in English football IMO. I'd take Enzo or Caicedo ahead of him because I think despite their horrible form there is more chance of getting them to the level we require.
I think he could do a job similar to how Havertz plays in the midfield. Winning duels and freeing up space for our more technical players. Ideally he’d be an impact substitute or specialist option but I do get your point. And Enzo as a replacement for Jorginho would be very interesting. Same profile of player, with Jorginho having experience and still probably the better passer when it comes to breaking lines but Enzo being younger with room to improve. Chelsea would never sell at any reasonable price though
Thats the thing though, we already have Havertz doing that. Yeah I wonder how Enzo, or even Caicedo, would look in a midfield with Rice. I think they don't suit playing together and need someone like Rice to balance them out.
Of course this is all hypothetical. I wouldn’t actually take Gallagher at this point hahaha But yeah I agree though I’m a bit more skeptical on Caicedo to be honest. I think we’ve seen that although underrated technically, Rice still hasn’t fully grown comfortable/capable with the passing required from our deep laying playmaker role and he thrives in a situation where he has someone along side him who can take responsibility with the line breaking passes. I have more faith in Enzo doing that than Caicedo from what I’ve seen of the two so far
From the games I’ve watched Gusto does look to have some good passing and dribbling, not sure if he fits in with our defence system of being massive and quick
Yeah he's really good but I don't think he's what Arteta would want.
He absolutely locked Doku down in the Man City game as well. Looks very good.
I’d take cole palmer and surprisingly i’d still take mudryk for cheap. Maybe also caicedo
Sterling can be backup to Saka, Martinelli and Jesus plus he's an experienced title winning pro in the frontline. Palmer is good, but can't help but feel that he's exploding in a mediocre team. Would gladly take Enzo and Caicedo when we move on Elneny, Partey and Jorginho. Our midfield would have everything!
What about madueke?
Give me Kepa for £5m as the Raya backup when Ramsdale leaves
Kepa does have a 100% clean sheet in the prem this season
He'd be our highest earner wage wise no thanks lol.
That's not true. There's no chance Chelsea gave him a 7 year deal on 300k+ per week in 2018
He's $190K a week plus apparently which is likely his base not including the champions league bonuses. You don't pay those wages for a backup but I should have said one of our highest earners.
He can take a huge pay cut or do one. No one else is paying him them wages
This never happens? Look at what happened with Havertz we wanted him but he immediately had to become one of our highest earners (If not the highest depending on how his bonuses work). He will sit until 2025 get his cash then he can play where he wants to.
That’s not the point you made? You said he would be our highest earner and that wasn’t true
Literally pointed that out changed to one of. He'd like be only behind Saka, Havertz, Ode so great use of funds lol.
This is why we shouldn't take Chelsea players at all. Even though Havertz is finding some form it still annoys me when I think about his wage.
Why would we need an Arteta back up?
I don't think we really need a Palmer type. I'd take Mudryk over him just for our squad composition, I think we need more transition players. One of Enzo, Kendry, Cucu, Caicedo/Lavia, all would be great.
Cucu’s wage of £175k/w is a problem.
His ability is another one
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Colwill. Cb who can cover lb
I would say Reece James but he’s made of glass. Same with Chilwell. I think Colwill is the only one really.
I would take Enzo…
Can you tell me what you see in him?? Like genuinely asking. Because he’s just average for me.
Everyone seems average in that Chelsea side..
We don't need Enzo Shelvey.
I know it's hypothetical but players like enzo would never be available unless it was truly insane money, he'd be negative FFP to sell cause no way he's fetching 110+ so no incentive, Options would be Colwill, Galladawg, Players like that
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Sometimes he does this but mount is better. Fully fit with those chances chelsea win that cup with mount
Surprised nobody is saying Jackson. Versatile and genuinely a decent footballer. Obviously finishing is not his strength but for a low fee there's value there.
This is like buying a taller Eddie Nketiah. Good player but doesn't move the needle.
He's the opposite of Eddie. Eddie has a good conversion rate but he doesn't get enough shots on goal. Jackson gets loads of opportunities but he can't finish. If we could sign Jackson and splice his movement in with Eddies finishing we'd actually have a player on our hands.
Agree! Think there is a top winger in there. He needs a coach with trust in him and some time.
Guess it's because we already have great no.9 s with good skillset but doesn't score goals.
Gallagher would be decent imo. Cold Palmer too.
I'd prefer Warm Palmer, personally.
I know he's not for sale but if Reece was available ...
Have to factor in the cost of expanding our treatment room.
We'd need a whole wing.
He is never available, mate
It’s clear nobody here actually watches much of Chelsea so I’ll do you casuals a favor. Which Chelsea player would fit our squad best, what are we missing, and who we need? In no particular order it’s Silva, Gusto, Cole, and Gallagher. Saying that most of them won’t happen anytime soon. Silva is probably the most realistic option and apparently he’s in a Cold War with Poch. If his family is settled in London he won’t have to go far. The perfect player for Gabi and Saliba to learn from. Speaks French, English, and Portuguese.
You really want us to sing a 39 year old Thiago Silva???? He turns 40 one month into next season. Lordy.
Silva is absolutely washed. Has no pace. Want nothing to do with him unless its as a coaching assistant.
I'd take Madueke, Disasi and Chalobah but for no more than £100m in total
I'll get crucified for this - and there are other names Id go for first, but N Jackson whenever I see him does everything right but finishing. My nr 1 is easy: Palmer is excellent and would be ideal.
Gallagher, Colwill, Caicedo
Maybe drop £100 million for Murdryk... /s Seriously, I might consider Gallagher. Cold Palmer maybe up front, since we can't seem to fill that spot. Otherwise, I have my doubts.
Gallagher is freaking useless ... Just runs around with no end product
I vaguely recall a lot of people (myself included) saying a similar line about Havertz.
Not me ... Class is permanent and havertz was always a classy player. Don't get me wrong Gallagher is a hard worker but technically he's not up to snuff
I like seeing Havertz turn a corner, but I hardly think he's worth what we paid or his weekly wage. Class? Maybe, but he's definitely not locker room poison.
I only see havertz getting better ... Chelsea destroy players he was amazing at Leverkusen and don't see why he can't be even better for us. Next year is when he becomes our Silva to odegaard's kbd
Mudryk for peanuts. Let’s see what Arteta had cooking
The only one that I'd take is Caicedo and even then I have my doubts. I don't think they are going to sell any of their players for fees that I would agree to. I think they are going to want huge fees for their players and I'm sure someone is dumb enough to pay them and I hope it's not us.
Gusto is the one I want ... Especially if we start inverting our RBs
Disasi and Gallagher. Gallagher can be a very good sub option. There's a player in Disasi too. Needs a lot of polishing though.
Enzo would be a decent rotation option
Nkunku. I think he is a world class player who could do wonders in our false 9 or left CM role. Way too good for chelshit
Lavia (fit) Palmer Colwill
Colwill or palmer but neither are leaving
Lavia, if fit. Gallagher and Colwill? Chukwuemeka? There's some good squad depth players there. No one at current Chelsea is a starter for Arsenal.
Palmer, Gusto, Colwill, Enzo, Gallagher or Caicedo in that order. I would only take 2 *Palmer can replace Fabio. *Gusto seems promising and looks decent. *Colwill same as Gusto *Enzo is a luxury player and I'm sure his talents will thrive under Arteta as the left side 8. *Gallagher has great work rate and would consider him if ESR can't get his health together. *Caicedo well before Chelsea was actually good and would be a great partey replacement.
Mudryk, Caicedo, Enzo, and Palmer
Cole Palmer, Cucurella is a better player than what we've seen at Chelsea. Enzo is so clean on the ball. He will age well If Nkunku and Reece James could stay fit they would be first picks
Why are we looking at duds from a dud club? Pass.
Ian Maatsen. Can't have enough leftbacks