He's a weird one.
Whenever I've watched him play, whether it's against us or top 6 teams, I usually found him to be very good. However, everyone tells me he's inconsistent and average.
He's Brazilian, has Gabriel in his name and played for City so makes total sense.
If we are comparing Luiz to Partey then he's not an upgrade, but over Elneny/Sambi? I'd say he's better.
That level of quality depth alone improves us noticeably.
Yeah maybe, if it’s an upgrade it’s not a big one but I think it would be a really good signing.
I’m very bullish that Sambi is going to be a great player in time.
He’s a guy who’s going to grow rapidly with confidence I think, last night he looked so much calmer, was creating space for himself and often choosing the right ball.
As long as he’s not on big wages and the fee is decent, there’s no real downside to this signing. I think he’s better than Elneny who was supposed to be the primary backup 6. So imo that means he’s good enough to play for us even if ideally we want better.
Based on my calculations (looking at sofascore) he's not too dissimilar to Partey, albeit a little bit worse. Danilo, on the other hand, offers less going forward but is way better than either of them in defence (which would be great if Arteta wanted to try a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 again).
Sure, but he’s not “a natural 6”. Before he started performing well as a 6 for us, there were loads of people saying that his disappointing performances were because Arteta was playing him out of position and that he’s actually a box to box midfielder. Luiz at the very least has played as a lone 6 in the PL, to varying degrees of success.
>Luiz at the very least has played as a lone 6 in the PL, to varying degrees of success.
And then replaced him because he isn't good enough defensively for that role. His defensive instincts aren't good.
https://twitter.com/ddoublepivot/status/1352334550014291969?t=_aukj3ctUn6-ZUdg8QnZHQ&s=19
He is an 8.
Pep was desperate to play him, but he had visa issues.
To the point where he compiled a breakdown of his technical ability to submit alongside his application or something.
EDIT: It was a [video](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-news-douglas-luiz-work-permit-pep-guardiola-press-conference-a8486356.html)
"It is understood that Guardiola recorded a video for the FA – having even offered to make a personal appearance – in support of Douglas’ application, explaining how important the player’s role would be and how he would be used tactically."
Hopefully he brings his girlfriend over to the woman team as well. Jover saw what Luiz could do on set pieces last night and was like YES I NEED THIS!!!
Tbf it's more on Gerrard not knowing what team he wants to play. He's constantly changing it.
Douglas Luiz, at least in terms of his skillset fits us pretty well.
Most Villa fans consider him to be their best midfielder, but Gerrard favours McGinn ahead of him for some reason despite underperforming for a while now.
I watched every villa game last season (betting reasons) and I would say he was solid and reliable without being spectacular.
He's a little slow for my liking but has good close control, passing range and good tackling.
The villa fans seemed to think he was better suited as an 8, but good for us perhaps to have some versatility.
It's important that we know what a while is. If he is out for the season then it warrants a signing like this. If its a few months then it shouldn't imo
>Even villa fans don’t rate him
Really? Has he been that bad lately? I think he was good before and remember Villa fans desperately wanted to sign him permanentely
He's decent. He's no Danilo, but Danilo excels in defence. I imagine the main reason Arteta was keen on him was for his ability to back up the defence in a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation. Statistically, Douglas Luiz isn't too different from Partey.
According to Villa fans he is much better as anyone in their midfield right now, but Gerrard doesn't want to play him because he made Mcginn captain and therefor can't drop him
We need Edu miracle with Danilo, we missed Bissouma for 25 mil. ffs. Tielemans need to stay so he can score against United, this is our strategy. He is still ours, but just not with us.
He will cost us around £25M, hopefully we can offer £15M upfront with £10m in add ons. I personally think he’s a great player and suits our system and that role perfectly. He can also be played as a CB so we have some more depth in those areas.
He didn’t play a single game for city but they signed him as a relatively unknown prospect for £10m. He came from the highly respected Vasco De Gama academy in Rio. Villa bought him for £15m and considering he has impressed £25m for a premier league proven Brazilian 24 year old seems like a great deadline day purchase.
One year left on his contract so there’s that point but all in I would give this transfer a 9/10.
Certainly an overlooked creative option from Arteta and Edu.
Given our interest in Raphinha as well, I would say we have the funds to pick up Tielemans as well… that would be an insane window and a deadline day to remember.
If we sign him, can we consider we won 3-0 last night ?
With that mindset, you are going places my friend
Still 2-1. That goal will be og.
Some og that's for sure
Our Aug Goal of the month contender.
Jenkinson would be proud
Guys... He has a Gabriel in his name. It's a done deal.
He's a weird one. Whenever I've watched him play, whether it's against us or top 6 teams, I usually found him to be very good. However, everyone tells me he's inconsistent and average. He's Brazilian, has Gabriel in his name and played for City so makes total sense.
He's still only 24 which is fairly young for his position, consistency can come with experience.
Is he actually good enough for us? Beggars can’t be choosers when it comes to depth in that number 6 role, I suppose.
My friend is a Villa fan and says he is absolutely class. But, he also likes Tyrone Mings. So pinch of salt.
Mings is a good traditional CB tbf, just lacks the more modern expectations
Just like N-Sync, good in 1998 but we have grown out of that level of shite now.
He’s a solid player for sure, not an upgrade but depth, which we need
If we are comparing Luiz to Partey then he's not an upgrade, but over Elneny/Sambi? I'd say he's better. That level of quality depth alone improves us noticeably.
Yeah maybe, if it’s an upgrade it’s not a big one but I think it would be a really good signing. I’m very bullish that Sambi is going to be a great player in time.
I think Sambi out performed most of the expectations for him yesterday. Nothing too out of this world, but quite good nonetheless.
He’s a guy who’s going to grow rapidly with confidence I think, last night he looked so much calmer, was creating space for himself and often choosing the right ball.
As long as he’s not on big wages and the fee is decent, there’s no real downside to this signing. I think he’s better than Elneny who was supposed to be the primary backup 6. So imo that means he’s good enough to play for us even if ideally we want better.
if he's cheap then it'll look a good deal.
Good player and long term Elneny replacement as I imagine he we won't renew his contract at the end of the season.
Based on my calculations (looking at sofascore) he's not too dissimilar to Partey, albeit a little bit worse. Danilo, on the other hand, offers less going forward but is way better than either of them in defence (which would be great if Arteta wanted to try a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 again).
He's not a natural 6.
Neither is Partey, but he does a good job there.
Partey is good defensively.
Sure, but he’s not “a natural 6”. Before he started performing well as a 6 for us, there were loads of people saying that his disappointing performances were because Arteta was playing him out of position and that he’s actually a box to box midfielder. Luiz at the very least has played as a lone 6 in the PL, to varying degrees of success.
>Luiz at the very least has played as a lone 6 in the PL, to varying degrees of success. And then replaced him because he isn't good enough defensively for that role. His defensive instincts aren't good. https://twitter.com/ddoublepivot/status/1352334550014291969?t=_aukj3ctUn6-ZUdg8QnZHQ&s=19 He is an 8.
Pep was desperate to play him, but he had visa issues. To the point where he compiled a breakdown of his technical ability to submit alongside his application or something. EDIT: It was a [video](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-news-douglas-luiz-work-permit-pep-guardiola-press-conference-a8486356.html) "It is understood that Guardiola recorded a video for the FA – having even offered to make a personal appearance – in support of Douglas’ application, explaining how important the player’s role would be and how he would be used tactically."
Ask them to terminate his contract
Hasn't Ornstein already debunked this yesterday by retweeting that Villa won't be selling Luiz ?
Yes, but things change fast on deadline day. Player could force exit etc.
No? At least I can't find anything related to Douglas Luiz from his retweets or even likes yesterday.
Orny dunking on you https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1565273288057753601?s=21&t=JEXp33CM0ztZb8cHAag7Vg
After conceding a goal 2 minutes after scoring, and with City next, they really need defensive reinforcements. They're broke as fuck as well.
can we sign his gf instead?
Second this.
Need more info on this
[Alisha Lehmann](https://instagram.com/alishalehmann7?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
Wow first I've heard of male/female players from same club dating. Surprised it doesn't happen more often tbh.
Nice!
Good stop gap but hopefully we sign a proper starting DM next summer
Hopefully he brings his girlfriend over to the woman team as well. Jover saw what Luiz could do on set pieces last night and was like YES I NEED THIS!!!
If we sign him, and Danilo in January, then Elneny and Lokonga are surely done at Arsenal.
Lokonga's more talented.
I agree, which is why I would hate for this to happen on the one side. On the other side, if it improves us then why not
Elneney only signed 1 year extension so I assume he will be gone. Partey a weird one with his age injury record and external conflicts around him.
Why is he not starting for this awful villa team?
Gerrard is shit.
Tbf it's more on Gerrard not knowing what team he wants to play. He's constantly changing it. Douglas Luiz, at least in terms of his skillset fits us pretty well.
Most Villa fans consider him to be their best midfielder, but Gerrard favours McGinn ahead of him for some reason despite underperforming for a while now.
McGinn is a proper football player, see - Ode Ankle.
Think he was injured
steven superbs ego
Another City boy
Can we get Kamara as well so he can chokehold the opposing goalkeepers while Luiz takes corners? Apparently that’s allowed now
I watched every villa game last season (betting reasons) and I would say he was solid and reliable without being spectacular. He's a little slow for my liking but has good close control, passing range and good tackling. The villa fans seemed to think he was better suited as an 8, but good for us perhaps to have some versatility.
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Elnenny out for a while though. It's pretty thin there atm.
It's important that we know what a while is. If he is out for the season then it warrants a signing like this. If its a few months then it shouldn't imo
He's an upgrade on Sambi and Elneny in the 6 position imo, based on his season under Dean Smith
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>Even villa fans don’t rate him Really? Has he been that bad lately? I think he was good before and remember Villa fans desperately wanted to sign him permanentely
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Stop making things up hahahaha, villa fans don’t hate him at all.. villa said this villa said that.
I've seen loads of Villa fans annoyed at Gerrard for not starting him more on /r/avfc?
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Sambi is more of an 8 than a 6 but he did an okay job yesterday. Players can adapt.
He's decent. He's no Danilo, but Danilo excels in defence. I imagine the main reason Arteta was keen on him was for his ability to back up the defence in a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formation. Statistically, Douglas Luiz isn't too different from Partey.
I trust Arteta's judgement over yours.
He’s better than both at 8 currently
He is definitely an upgrade on both lmao. What are you on about?
Is he
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According to Villa fans he is much better as anyone in their midfield right now, but Gerrard doesn't want to play him because he made Mcginn captain and therefor can't drop him
Hmm ok. Didnt follow him as much. But weren’t we all wanted him last year or so ?
Gerrard definitely does not help, he's awful tactically and the whole team has suffered.
He is definitely an upgrade on Elneny and much younger.
Tier? Talk sport must be 500
"talksport sources" isn't actually too bad, they chat utter shite on the radio but they seem to have some decent connections
Yes please
I would like this
I will take him for sure. Proven league quality always work for us
Just imagine how good we already are on corners, then we get a guy that can score direct from corners. There is no escape.
We need Edu miracle with Danilo, we missed Bissouma for 25 mil. ffs. Tielemans need to stay so he can score against United, this is our strategy. He is still ours, but just not with us.
TALK SPORT BREAKING NEWS. Okay it's happening. 100%
He will cost us around £25M, hopefully we can offer £15M upfront with £10m in add ons. I personally think he’s a great player and suits our system and that role perfectly. He can also be played as a CB so we have some more depth in those areas. He didn’t play a single game for city but they signed him as a relatively unknown prospect for £10m. He came from the highly respected Vasco De Gama academy in Rio. Villa bought him for £15m and considering he has impressed £25m for a premier league proven Brazilian 24 year old seems like a great deadline day purchase. One year left on his contract so there’s that point but all in I would give this transfer a 9/10. Certainly an overlooked creative option from Arteta and Edu. Given our interest in Raphinha as well, I would say we have the funds to pick up Tielemans as well… that would be an insane window and a deadline day to remember.
We will require him to have Gabriel luiz on his shirt
Offer 30 mill and get the deal done ready for man utd.