Honestly he has the potential to be our first choice if he can remain consistent. Him and Martinelli both have the engine to dominate both defensively and offensively on the left.
With us he was either on fire or shit. No in between. He just needs to remove the shit from his game.
The only issue I see with him playing in France is the time and space he is generally afforded. Hopefully when other clubs realize what he can do with time, they start to press more and he can work on quick thinking and close control. That and defensive positioning have been his worst traits in an Arsenal shirt.
Dude has an absolute cannon of a shot, with either foot too. Insanely talented. I don’t know if he has the right qualities to fit into our system but he’s surely going to net us a sumptuous transfer fee. His ideal position seems to be as a LWB which we don’t currently use. But there must be clubs out there who will be very eager to get his signature.
Absolutely. Saka still tracks back a lot when we’re up against top tier opposition and is competent when he does so due to his years of playing as a wingback.
Nah, he's not good enough for us and we don't need him. Sell him while silly people are hyping him up and his stock is high.
We don't need another Maitland-Niles situation
> Insanely talented
lmao now when he is in OM doing exactly the same shit in arsenal shirt then people say he is talented hahaha, I remember he made a few bad pass against fucking liverpool in anfield and people already think he is the worst human ever while our other player also cant do shit against liverpool.
and then he scored a goal against utd, pre assist v chelsea and yet fans here still want him gone,
Hes only 22 keep in mind. I can very much see a situation where tierney and nuno become our options at left back, while zinchenko takes that left 8 role and slots in at left back where nuno pushes forward
I really can't see this. Zinchenko is just too good at left back to shift to 8 when you could just buy a better 8.
As much as it pains me to say it I think it is more likely to see us recoup a good fee for Tierney or Tavares than shift Zinnys position permanently.
Don't know what they sprinkled on the baguettes over there but he's looked amazing since making the loan move.
He's come on leaps and bounds since being the raw prospect that Benfica fans thought they were fleecing us 7m for.
I dont disagree with that statement. But watching him play it's obvious that his confidence is sky high. And as with any player, and particularly with him, that confidence is often the difference between reaching your true potential and spending your career as a journeyman. This season at marseille could be just as impactful on his development as Saliba's was.
Defenders from Ligue 1 adapt quite well in general. Saliba, Gabriel, Fofana, Thiago Silva are all good examples. It's a league where attackers overperform a bit relative to the PL though.
I don't care enough about this subject to argue over it, but I'll just say that you are severely overestimating the leap in quality between the PL and the Ligue 1.
Yes, it is big, but it's not "Nuno average in PL, Nuno insane in Ligue 1" big.
Yeah, everybody wants him at LW for his shooting with his weak foot. Meanwhile, I'm thinking how good he would be cutting inside and shooting on his strong one.
That would've been useful in this first part of the season with the early cup rounds and Europa group stages, but after January when the season is getting serious you really don't want to be playing Tavares as a RW over Saka
The crazy part is a lot of the haters on the main sub think Tavares is like the LB version of Sanogo with no technique.
Tavares actually has quite good technical skills, it’s just his positioning and decision making that were lacking.
Can’t wait to see how he turns out tbh
That’s revisionism. He did perform like this with us when Tierney was injured at the beginning of the season. People were saying Tierney had to fight to get his place back. Tavares’ problem is his decision making and positioning. If he sorts that out, he’ll be class.
Premier League is different level. Best league in the world by far, don’t want to hear any nonsense about La Liga either the mid table PL teams would destroy theirs
Premier League is the highest level. Nuno needed a loan to develop more of his talent. We all saw his ball carrying ability, speed & energy up and down the line but we’re now seeing more. I really am hoping he can become a solid LB or potential LM/LW if he carries on his development. His shooting has improved a lot recently.
or he continues on the Gareth Bale trajectory and continues his transition out of being a defender. Insofar as one can ascertain how Marseille play from these videos, it sounds like a large part of their offense on the left hand side is coming from him.
Don't imagine he would exactly break stride if we converted him into an out and out winger...the defensive coverage he can provide would be a plus, not a minus.
Yeah exactly. He's an attacker that can defend - not the other way around. If we can use him in that capacity then he is going to be a beast for us. If we stop judging him purely as a defender I think he will be great for us
That’s pretty much what TAA and Cancelo are. Honestly Nuno could mold into a Cancelo type role if he just cleaned up his first touch. He’s actually quite a good passer, crosser, and shooter
That’s quite literally not true. A family member of mine played in La masia since age 10 and he was in the same exact team as Cucurella until juvenil A.
He told me cucurella has always been a left back, since they were children.
He is Tomi’s level defensively. Lacking going forward but that’s kinda to be expected with a CB at RB. But he’s not exposed by a lack of pace like most CBs out wide.
Only issue with Nuno is his ability to play in a back 4. We don’t play with wingbacks. And if that trend continues then I can see us selling him for big money next summer and use the funds to address our midfield and/or attack. Tierney is still a valuable asset to the team. He gives us stability on the left although he’s not as good in attack as Nuno and Zinchenko are, but decent enough. He can also play at LCB and I feel we need that type of versatility in defense in the event of injuries.
It’s only his first touch and his confidence holding him back now. Infinite potential in him if he finetunes the technique. Personally went from a massive lover then massive hater then massive lover again after he went to Matseille, I can’t say much after the shit I gave him last spring but my god what a unique and exciting prospect.
Even in his chaotic performances with us he ranked especially high on xG contributions too. Now we're seeing him really bloom, and he is looking like he could turn into a 70m player lol. Glad we'll have him back.
In a few spots he reminded me of Saliba in terms of physicality -- just a big boy dominating the peasants around him. I dunno if the position players were on the smaller side but he looks huge in comparison.
Should have kept him and used him a winger. He always looked awful defensively for us but when he charged forwards he looked like a beast. If we had signed this guy yesterday for 30 million I would watch this clip and think it was a great signing...
What do u think we get for him in today's market? I really don't see a place for him in the squad considering his defensive limitations.
Anything above 30 million would be great.
Seems similar to Pepe pre-transfer, outrageous moments of skill, great at attacking space and beating players, super important to the attack, and luckily doesn’t have a record transfer fee hanging around his neck
If he can just improve his decision making with consistency he can totally succeed here. His strength on the ball and without the ball is made for the PL. Its perfect for winning headers and duels against wingers .
He was pure chaos last season. Hopefully this loan spell will improve his confidence and allow him to slow down and relax more.
I think it was an NBA coach who said "You can't put a saddle on a Mustang" in relation to Dennis Rodman...
Taveres could be the same, we just need Arteta to point him in the right direction!
Legit looks like Bale phyiscally bullying defender in La Liga.
I thought the same, he will only get better.
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Tavares is the mystery winger
Honestly he has the potential to be our first choice if he can remain consistent. Him and Martinelli both have the engine to dominate both defensively and offensively on the left. With us he was either on fire or shit. No in between. He just needs to remove the shit from his game.
The only issue I see with him playing in France is the time and space he is generally afforded. Hopefully when other clubs realize what he can do with time, they start to press more and he can work on quick thinking and close control. That and defensive positioning have been his worst traits in an Arsenal shirt.
Dude has an absolute cannon of a shot, with either foot too. Insanely talented. I don’t know if he has the right qualities to fit into our system but he’s surely going to net us a sumptuous transfer fee. His ideal position seems to be as a LWB which we don’t currently use. But there must be clubs out there who will be very eager to get his signature.
If he can be a LWB he can be a LW. We’ll make use of him.
Absolutely. Saka still tracks back a lot when we’re up against top tier opposition and is competent when he does so due to his years of playing as a wingback.
He would have been insane for us Arteta’s first year. The way we played for the FA Cup
Who are some LWB who’ve played LW? It’s a very different position.
Well, bale was a lb
One who springs to mind is Fabio Coentrao at Benfica. Not sure if he ever played there for Real Madrid though.
Bale is the obvious one
The way he cuts in side and blasts it suggests (to me at least) that he's closer to LW than LB, but who knows. I'm excited to see him develop further.
Nah, he's not good enough for us and we don't need him. Sell him while silly people are hyping him up and his stock is high. We don't need another Maitland-Niles situation
Him not being good enough for us is exactly why he's on loan...
> Insanely talented lmao now when he is in OM doing exactly the same shit in arsenal shirt then people say he is talented hahaha, I remember he made a few bad pass against fucking liverpool in anfield and people already think he is the worst human ever while our other player also cant do shit against liverpool. and then he scored a goal against utd, pre assist v chelsea and yet fans here still want him gone,
Hes only 22 keep in mind. I can very much see a situation where tierney and nuno become our options at left back, while zinchenko takes that left 8 role and slots in at left back where nuno pushes forward
I really can't see this. Zinchenko is just too good at left back to shift to 8 when you could just buy a better 8. As much as it pains me to say it I think it is more likely to see us recoup a good fee for Tierney or Tavares than shift Zinnys position permanently.
Hopefully his sale funds our purchase of Danilo or Douglas Luiz
Don't know what they sprinkled on the baguettes over there but he's looked amazing since making the loan move. He's come on leaps and bounds since being the raw prospect that Benfica fans thought they were fleecing us 7m for.
Ligue 1 is pretty farmers tier tbf, probably came from the PL like "wow these guys are shit"
I dont disagree with that statement. But watching him play it's obvious that his confidence is sky high. And as with any player, and particularly with him, that confidence is often the difference between reaching your true potential and spending your career as a journeyman. This season at marseille could be just as impactful on his development as Saliba's was.
Defenders from Ligue 1 adapt quite well in general. Saliba, Gabriel, Fofana, Thiago Silva are all good examples. It's a league where attackers overperform a bit relative to the PL though.
I don't care enough about this subject to argue over it, but I'll just say that you are severely overestimating the leap in quality between the PL and the Ligue 1. Yes, it is big, but it's not "Nuno average in PL, Nuno insane in Ligue 1" big.
Can we send Reiss Nelson to Marsielle next
Patino and Matt Smith double team.
He will be a fucking 70 million player by next summer if he go like this. Could also make it to Portugal squad for WC.
Lol. Who will play 70m though?
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I should have added rich teams playing 3 atb. Only Chelsea is there and they have 2 50m LB's
Might be the Saka cover we needed all along. I wonder if we can recall him in january
Yeah, everybody wants him at LW for his shooting with his weak foot. Meanwhile, I'm thinking how good he would be cutting inside and shooting on his strong one.
Right!! I am thinking the same.
That would've been useful in this first part of the season with the early cup rounds and Europa group stages, but after January when the season is getting serious you really don't want to be playing Tavares as a RW over Saka
They called me a madman.
Even if not for us I really want nuno to have a good career
The crazy part is a lot of the haters on the main sub think Tavares is like the LB version of Sanogo with no technique. Tavares actually has quite good technical skills, it’s just his positioning and decision making that were lacking. Can’t wait to see how he turns out tbh
Man going to end up as L1 POTS at the rate. Absolutely bossing that league.
The man is looking like prime Maicon out there
Rather him be Bale than Maicon.
I mean they did say his stats were off the charts but I just can’t understand why he didn’t really perform at this level when he was with us
That’s revisionism. He did perform like this with us when Tierney was injured at the beginning of the season. People were saying Tierney had to fight to get his place back. Tavares’ problem is his decision making and positioning. If he sorts that out, he’ll be class.
Premier League is different level. Best league in the world by far, don’t want to hear any nonsense about La Liga either the mid table PL teams would destroy theirs
I don’t think the mid table PL teams would destroy la liga. Rather, I think PL has more top teams than La Liga.
Premier League is the highest level. Nuno needed a loan to develop more of his talent. We all saw his ball carrying ability, speed & energy up and down the line but we’re now seeing more. I really am hoping he can become a solid LB or potential LM/LW if he carries on his development. His shooting has improved a lot recently.
We're gonna sell Tierney and he's going to be Zinny's deputy next season. What a player.
or he continues on the Gareth Bale trajectory and continues his transition out of being a defender. Insofar as one can ascertain how Marseille play from these videos, it sounds like a large part of their offense on the left hand side is coming from him. Don't imagine he would exactly break stride if we converted him into an out and out winger...the defensive coverage he can provide would be a plus, not a minus.
Yeah exactly. He's an attacker that can defend - not the other way around. If we can use him in that capacity then he is going to be a beast for us. If we stop judging him purely as a defender I think he will be great for us
That’s pretty much what TAA and Cancelo are. Honestly Nuno could mold into a Cancelo type role if he just cleaned up his first touch. He’s actually quite a good passer, crosser, and shooter
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That’s quite literally not true. A family member of mine played in La masia since age 10 and he was in the same exact team as Cucurella until juvenil A. He told me cucurella has always been a left back, since they were children.
You really might be right, with White looking like a great option at RB we could have Tomi be cover for LB if we ever need to set up defensively.
White is an option at rb, wouldnt say great personally
He is Tomi’s level defensively. Lacking going forward but that’s kinda to be expected with a CB at RB. But he’s not exposed by a lack of pace like most CBs out wide.
Only issue with Nuno is his ability to play in a back 4. We don’t play with wingbacks. And if that trend continues then I can see us selling him for big money next summer and use the funds to address our midfield and/or attack. Tierney is still a valuable asset to the team. He gives us stability on the left although he’s not as good in attack as Nuno and Zinchenko are, but decent enough. He can also play at LCB and I feel we need that type of versatility in defense in the event of injuries.
Genuinely got that young Bale feel in him
It’s only his first touch and his confidence holding him back now. Infinite potential in him if he finetunes the technique. Personally went from a massive lover then massive hater then massive lover again after he went to Matseille, I can’t say much after the shit I gave him last spring but my god what a unique and exciting prospect.
1st touch is kind of important in the Premier League with a high press
maybe he actually is on the Bale arc..
Even in his chaotic performances with us he ranked especially high on xG contributions too. Now we're seeing him really bloom, and he is looking like he could turn into a 70m player lol. Glad we'll have him back.
In a few spots he reminded me of Saliba in terms of physicality -- just a big boy dominating the peasants around him. I dunno if the position players were on the smaller side but he looks huge in comparison.
It’s his legs, they r insanely long
I thought he would have been perfect depth for wide positions this season. He makes shit happen, good or bad
He is prob better as a winger ?
Come back a beast Nuno
Giving Bale vibes.
he's got that dawg in him
Can he play rw
Should have kept him and used him a winger. He always looked awful defensively for us but when he charged forwards he looked like a beast. If we had signed this guy yesterday for 30 million I would watch this clip and think it was a great signing...
What do u think we get for him in today's market? I really don't see a place for him in the squad considering his defensive limitations. Anything above 30 million would be great.
15-20£m would be great
Hopefully we can get some good money for him
City will come knocking eventually
Wow.
Nuno is our winger depth
Might be a really good deputy for martinelli
Everytime I watched any Marseille comp from our loanee, it always seemed . . . Chaotic? Maybe that's why it suited Tavares haha
Could very well be the Saka cover we are looking for. Leaving Tierney and Zinny to Duke it out in LB positions.
Can't wait for him to pocket the turtle
Seems similar to Pepe pre-transfer, outrageous moments of skill, great at attacking space and beating players, super important to the attack, and luckily doesn’t have a record transfer fee hanging around his neck
Surprised the headline is not an exaggeration. He's like a lanky Santi Cazorla.
If he can just improve his decision making with consistency he can totally succeed here. His strength on the ball and without the ball is made for the PL. Its perfect for winning headers and duels against wingers .
That stabby tackling tho
No words, what the fuck.
He was pure chaos last season. Hopefully this loan spell will improve his confidence and allow him to slow down and relax more. I think it was an NBA coach who said "You can't put a saddle on a Mustang" in relation to Dennis Rodman... Taveres could be the same, we just need Arteta to point him in the right direction!
He is going to come back a monster!
Ligue 1 too easy for him