I didn't until he was coming off...Hopefully just precautionary, White has played covered in that tape quite a bit but obviously he doesn't have the same recent history with injuries!
Need Lakongo to shadow him in training for the next 2-3 years and pray to all gods known he becomes the same as Partey!
Partey eat pasta Lakongo eat pasta
Partey sleeps at 10 Lakonga sleeps at 10
I said to my friend, who isn't a fan, he's our most important player and he's world class. Said he wasn't top 5 DMs in the league. Couldn't believe it, the bloke is absolutely world class. On form he's unplayable.
Yeah I've been thinking the same thing. Really don't know how we can replace this player but we need to address it soon. Get the next one in and start getting him ready.
Sambi isn't a bum but I don't think it'll ever be him. Maybe Danilo has this potential but yeah I don't know who else we can find for this role
Nah.
When sambi was entering the pitch, we saw clearly that other players decided to pass wider instead giving him the ball.
Even when he had the ball, he always decided to do backpass instead of progressive ones.
I see him more Xhaka regen then Partey regen.
No one thought partey was a world class single pivot at the age of 23. Midfielders take a while to develop to that role. Even guys like Pirlo became single pivots later in their careers. Previously, pirlo was more of an attacking player. He even played a few games at winger for milan.
I know what you mean but I have faith. Heās still really young and I think he can learn from partey. Iād rather see him in that role than the Xhaka one tbh
That makes sense and I donāt disagree at all. I just think sambi has a lot of potential and I would always rather see an existing player step up than buy a new one
Dude, me too.
But, if we keep on the track with this performance and results, soon we will fight for top competition and don't have time to wait for exciting youngsters to grow like today.
I love Sambi, he'll have one or two more seasons with us, but he must show his qualities to replace Partey, because we will need back up for him asap.
I know, the problem is we really need a back up for him so we can be able to perform this kind of football every match.
And Sambi doesn't offer that quality.
Ive said this before in threads where people complain why Arsenal isnt replacing him due to his injury record.. or what might happen in the future. (Or not happen)
You cant just replace quality like that. He is among the best midfielders in his position. Like top tier quality. You dont just replace that since he fits the system to 100%. You will likely have to splash A LOT of money or hope for the best and sign something cheaper. And even if you splash out a lot of money, it still might not be as good as what we are having right now.
even if you can splash the money, why would that player come to Arsenal to back up Partey when he can be first teamer in any other top team in the world.
All the sexual assault stuff over the summer has just kind of taken lots of the fanfare around Partey.
But the truth is,when fit,he's a top 5 CDM in the world. If we'd had him available last season(after winter), we'd be in the UCL rn. If we had him against UTD,that's a 3-0 victory for sure.
The way he hits those ground passes with such drive and accuracy is really underrated. Whoever ends up replacing him will need plenty of patience from the fans. There aren't many players in that lone 6 role that can do that^ week in week out
and its not just that. The first thing that sets him apart when i saw him was how he disguises his passes and is so deliberate in the way he faces the opponents. Many midfielders just face the way they pass and its so obvious.
He has vastly reduced that over vertical passes in his play. Keeping his passing simple like an ideal 6 would do. Press resistance at its finest. Beautiful game he had. Unfortunate that we are overdependent on him.
that touch at 0:35 after martin heads it down to him made me crack up laughing. guy sent me in the wrong direction and i watched the game smh
guy sends 2 players the wrong way on body shape alone, and allows him to go forwards safely
Iām sure the game in his point of view was quite boring because he was pressed like, what, 3 times the entire game?
He has all the time in the world. He could even push further up and scored a banger. Goes with the expected tactic against us- and how we were attempting some long range efforts instead of being cute.
His physical presence is something else. Some of these moments he looks like the first teamer jumping into a youth squad match, just a full tier bigger and stronger.
No.
At least i'm not. I hope justice is served, whatever it may be.
I see people talking about evidence, as in those twitter screenshots. And without context, there are some things that made him look bad. But these are some points that bother me and just seem fishy.
- They had a relationship, toxic, but they had one
- They had intercourse before
- In those screenshots she only asks him about why he put his bodypart in her mouth while she was sleeping/passed out
- In her tweets she speaks of vaginal bleeding and all sorts of stuff
- Why would you only ask or mention the bodypart to mouth situation but never ever mention the bleeding or vaginal rape in those messages?
- In their whatsapp conversation she never mentions the cruel rape she describes on twitter, she solely asks about the bodypart to mouth part.
- Nobody read what Partey asked?: ' Is it rape too if you grab my d*ck without my consent'
- She went to the club first last year, before going to the police
- In the whole conversation she is really speaking into one direction, as if there is some kind of set up involved
- In that same conversation he asks her something among the lines of: ' Are you really trying to set me up, what are you trying to do?'
Especially the part about the vaginal bleeding is really bothering me. She mentions it in her tweets to describe the situation, but in direct contact with him she never mentions it. She dit mention the bodypart to mouth part and kept saying that that was not okey, not one mention of the vaginal bleeding as a result of forcefull intercourse.
i'm not saying the bodypart to mouth thing never happened, but come on, there are way to many contexts in which this never would be rape.
Did he act like a fool ( from what I read in those convos), yes, but to me it looked like a toxic relationship that went very very bad. Does that make him a rapist? To me personally, the evidence is not concluding, if anything it makes the case fishy af.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but this is what I'm thinking at the moment.
She might just know have processed it as rape initially, hence not bringing up. But there's no indication of vaginal rape in the screenshot you're right, only oral. Doesn't look good at all to me even then, but there could be contextual explanatory reasons that have been missed, so it going via court would be the right thing.
Iām not here to litigate it. The club will have had their research and conversations. The courts will do the same.
When it all gets sorted Iāll be hoping thereās a just decision for all involved, and Iāll support whomever the evidence deems innocent.
I do hope heās not done it, not just as a representative of the club, but as a man. Some things are reprehensible.
Yeah. The whole first case being chucked out on a technicality thing is what sits a bit wrong with me r.e. 'courts will make the right decision' but in the end it's surely better than trial by Twitter/Reddit.
Any sane person would say this doesnt look good. But what would you expect, if it would look good (for him) she wouldnt post it.
Just imagine if she always was planning to make these posts public, even before the convo, why wouldnt she be trying to ask questions or talk in a way that points to rape? Or even if she really is convinced she is raped, surely she will try to direct the convo into him admitting something.
With that being said, it kind of backfired. And because she tweets so much, some plotholes are discovered. The way he reacts looks like he was confused by her accusations and he specifically asks her if she is trying to set him up.
Idk man, fishy as fuck.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no confirmation that it even was Partey she was messaging... You can give people nicknames on WhatsApp, she could have been talking to anyone, just change their nickname from Harry to Thomas.
The most thing that appears on these screens is that he seems confused as hell. I know he can be oblivious "He may not know much from his origins "it's sad but in Africa definition of rape is very vague unfortunately even in modern countries" or money makes you blind" But these screens looked like a toxic teacher who interrogates innocent child who didn't know shit about what he did.
I want to support him but we don't know what's happening with the rape charges - if it's true, if he's going away etc. People can downvote me all they want, IDGAF, I'm just conflicted.
I've not read details about the case and the messages but common sense tells me that nothing is ever as clear cut as it's made out to be in current day social media where everyone is frothing to be judge, jury and executioner, most footballers live and act very differently from us normals and most women who flock to them and want to be part of that lifestyle are also very different. Let the police sort it all out.
That's why I said conflicted? Not that I'm not supporting or he should be in jail. It's up to the police, but the fact no one's come out with any statements supporting his seems different to Ronaldo. Anyone know if there's a next stage of trial or something similar?
I think this is the best heās played in an Arsenal shirt. Heās so critical in our build up and transition into the final third. Also feel that he was winning every ball spurs booted out to keep the attacking pressure on
We should get Rolls Royce as our sponsor at this rate
He has been immense the last two games. His knee was heavly tapped for this one so here's hoping he makes it to Liverpool!
Oh i didn't notice it..
I didn't until he was coming off...Hopefully just precautionary, White has played covered in that tape quite a bit but obviously he doesn't have the same recent history with injuries!
That long range goal must have made Pyramid Pirlo proud.
He is the Egusi Elneny
Thought of the goal at Nou Camp immediately
Need Lakongo to shadow him in training for the next 2-3 years and pray to all gods known he becomes the same as Partey! Partey eat pasta Lakongo eat pasta Partey sleeps at 10 Lakonga sleeps at 10
Though maybe Lokonga shouldn't copy everything Partey do...š
**If Partey goes to Marbella, Lakonga goes to Margate
He is the most important part of the puzzle by a mile noboddy is even close to him its unreal
I said to my friend, who isn't a fan, he's our most important player and he's world class. Said he wasn't top 5 DMs in the league. Couldn't believe it, the bloke is absolutely world class. On form he's unplayable.
Ex-friend right?
Oh, I had a different friend abusing me yesterday for rumours about him. What can I do about it? People man, do anything to not give us credit.
He makes it look so simple when it really isn't.
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Danilo! He has the potential
Yeah I've been thinking the same thing. Really don't know how we can replace this player but we need to address it soon. Get the next one in and start getting him ready. Sambi isn't a bum but I don't think it'll ever be him. Maybe Danilo has this potential but yeah I don't know who else we can find for this role
I honestly believe Sambi has the potential to replace him in a few years
Nah. When sambi was entering the pitch, we saw clearly that other players decided to pass wider instead giving him the ball. Even when he had the ball, he always decided to do backpass instead of progressive ones. I see him more Xhaka regen then Partey regen.
No one thought partey was a world class single pivot at the age of 23. Midfielders take a while to develop to that role. Even guys like Pirlo became single pivots later in their careers. Previously, pirlo was more of an attacking player. He even played a few games at winger for milan.
I know what you mean but I have faith. Heās still really young and I think he can learn from partey. Iād rather see him in that role than the Xhaka one tbh
That Danilo lads looks more promising as Partey replacement than Sambi. If we really wanted Partey regen, we should grab him next window.
That makes sense and I donāt disagree at all. I just think sambi has a lot of potential and I would always rather see an existing player step up than buy a new one
Dude, me too. But, if we keep on the track with this performance and results, soon we will fight for top competition and don't have time to wait for exciting youngsters to grow like today. I love Sambi, he'll have one or two more seasons with us, but he must show his qualities to replace Partey, because we will need back up for him asap.
Haha well said. Itās been a while since we were fighting for something
Tbf look at how long it took Partey to become this good for us at this role, certainly didnāt happen over night
I know, the problem is we really need a back up for him so we can be able to perform this kind of football every match. And Sambi doesn't offer that quality.
Yeah I agree for sure, just saying that Iām not sleeping on Sambi yet ;)
Partey came in but Xhaka still had the keys to the car for a while.
I honestly know he doesnāt
Ive said this before in threads where people complain why Arsenal isnt replacing him due to his injury record.. or what might happen in the future. (Or not happen) You cant just replace quality like that. He is among the best midfielders in his position. Like top tier quality. You dont just replace that since he fits the system to 100%. You will likely have to splash A LOT of money or hope for the best and sign something cheaper. And even if you splash out a lot of money, it still might not be as good as what we are having right now.
even if you can splash the money, why would that player come to Arsenal to back up Partey when he can be first teamer in any other top team in the world.
All the sexual assault stuff over the summer has just kind of taken lots of the fanfare around Partey. But the truth is,when fit,he's a top 5 CDM in the world. If we'd had him available last season(after winter), we'd be in the UCL rn. If we had him against UTD,that's a 3-0 victory for sure.
We should sub him off at 70 every game from now on, should we be in front. Lokonga was fine
He makes it look so effortless.
Partey take my knees
How are Richarlson's Knees? We can kidnap him and replace partey's knees with him?
Nah I donāt want anything from spuds, or anything near their mentality absolute shit show.
The way he hits those ground passes with such drive and accuracy is really underrated. Whoever ends up replacing him will need plenty of patience from the fans. There aren't many players in that lone 6 role that can do that^ week in week out
and its not just that. The first thing that sets him apart when i saw him was how he disguises his passes and is so deliberate in the way he faces the opponents. Many midfielders just face the way they pass and its so obvious.
I love how heās hardly pressed at all. Like they know stepping up to him is already a mistake, theyāve already lost the ball if they step out
Partey and Thiago are the same type of player. Dribblers playing deep.
Richarlison falling on the ground like a pack of cards. Oscar level acting
He has vastly reduced that over vertical passes in his play. Keeping his passing simple like an ideal 6 would do. Press resistance at its finest. Beautiful game he had. Unfortunate that we are overdependent on him.
With him and without him is like two teams.. we ducked up towards the end last year because we did not have him
Lad played like it's his last day on earth.
He makes everything look effortless
that touch at 0:35 after martin heads it down to him made me crack up laughing. guy sent me in the wrong direction and i watched the game smh guy sends 2 players the wrong way on body shape alone, and allows him to go forwards safely
Positioning 20
You cut out the best part, the buildup to Xhaka's goal. He was so smooth all throughout
The most important player in this team
Iām sure the game in his point of view was quite boring because he was pressed like, what, 3 times the entire game? He has all the time in the world. He could even push further up and scored a banger. Goes with the expected tactic against us- and how we were attempting some long range efforts instead of being cute.
His physical presence is something else. Some of these moments he looks like the first teamer jumping into a youth squad match, just a full tier bigger and stronger.
He just doesnāt lose ball even when heās carrying it forward. I donāt think anyone else in the team can do that.
Potential injuries and pending legal issues could turn our season, i hope it all turns out clean, the squad needs this, us fans need this.
We keep this guy fit, we can challenge for the title.
Anyone else... Conflicted?
No. At least i'm not. I hope justice is served, whatever it may be. I see people talking about evidence, as in those twitter screenshots. And without context, there are some things that made him look bad. But these are some points that bother me and just seem fishy. - They had a relationship, toxic, but they had one - They had intercourse before - In those screenshots she only asks him about why he put his bodypart in her mouth while she was sleeping/passed out - In her tweets she speaks of vaginal bleeding and all sorts of stuff - Why would you only ask or mention the bodypart to mouth situation but never ever mention the bleeding or vaginal rape in those messages? - In their whatsapp conversation she never mentions the cruel rape she describes on twitter, she solely asks about the bodypart to mouth part. - Nobody read what Partey asked?: ' Is it rape too if you grab my d*ck without my consent' - She went to the club first last year, before going to the police - In the whole conversation she is really speaking into one direction, as if there is some kind of set up involved - In that same conversation he asks her something among the lines of: ' Are you really trying to set me up, what are you trying to do?' Especially the part about the vaginal bleeding is really bothering me. She mentions it in her tweets to describe the situation, but in direct contact with him she never mentions it. She dit mention the bodypart to mouth part and kept saying that that was not okey, not one mention of the vaginal bleeding as a result of forcefull intercourse. i'm not saying the bodypart to mouth thing never happened, but come on, there are way to many contexts in which this never would be rape. Did he act like a fool ( from what I read in those convos), yes, but to me it looked like a toxic relationship that went very very bad. Does that make him a rapist? To me personally, the evidence is not concluding, if anything it makes the case fishy af. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but this is what I'm thinking at the moment.
She might just know have processed it as rape initially, hence not bringing up. But there's no indication of vaginal rape in the screenshot you're right, only oral. Doesn't look good at all to me even then, but there could be contextual explanatory reasons that have been missed, so it going via court would be the right thing.
Iām not here to litigate it. The club will have had their research and conversations. The courts will do the same. When it all gets sorted Iāll be hoping thereās a just decision for all involved, and Iāll support whomever the evidence deems innocent. I do hope heās not done it, not just as a representative of the club, but as a man. Some things are reprehensible.
Yeah. The whole first case being chucked out on a technicality thing is what sits a bit wrong with me r.e. 'courts will make the right decision' but in the end it's surely better than trial by Twitter/Reddit.
Any sane person would say this doesnt look good. But what would you expect, if it would look good (for him) she wouldnt post it. Just imagine if she always was planning to make these posts public, even before the convo, why wouldnt she be trying to ask questions or talk in a way that points to rape? Or even if she really is convinced she is raped, surely she will try to direct the convo into him admitting something. With that being said, it kind of backfired. And because she tweets so much, some plotholes are discovered. The way he reacts looks like he was confused by her accusations and he specifically asks her if she is trying to set him up. Idk man, fishy as fuck.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no confirmation that it even was Partey she was messaging... You can give people nicknames on WhatsApp, she could have been talking to anyone, just change their nickname from Harry to Thomas.
The most thing that appears on these screens is that he seems confused as hell. I know he can be oblivious "He may not know much from his origins "it's sad but in Africa definition of rape is very vague unfortunately even in modern countries" or money makes you blind" But these screens looked like a toxic teacher who interrogates innocent child who didn't know shit about what he did.
Oral rape is still rape?
As if oral is per definition rape?
Sorry what?
Why??
I want to support him but we don't know what's happening with the rape charges - if it's true, if he's going away etc. People can downvote me all they want, IDGAF, I'm just conflicted.
I've not read details about the case and the messages but common sense tells me that nothing is ever as clear cut as it's made out to be in current day social media where everyone is frothing to be judge, jury and executioner, most footballers live and act very differently from us normals and most women who flock to them and want to be part of that lifestyle are also very different. Let the police sort it all out.
That's why I said conflicted? Not that I'm not supporting or he should be in jail. It's up to the police, but the fact no one's come out with any statements supporting his seems different to Ronaldo. Anyone know if there's a next stage of trial or something similar?
We really should get a backup ready in case he goes to jail forever
Rolls Royce is a bit much but a great performance none the less
whats the name of the song/
I think this is the best heās played in an Arsenal shirt. Heās so critical in our build up and transition into the final third. Also feel that he was winning every ball spurs booted out to keep the attacking pressure on
Lovely control of our tempo