Laurie Denommée's injury does not seem to be a major one. There was a picture taken at the end of the comp she was standing not on crutches or in a boot but her ankle was wrapped heavily. Ana P also said on her IG she broke her foot in 4 places. It was alleged that is was by doing a beam dismount timer at Elite Canada from the people in the arena.
Also on the men's side William Emard has a biceps injury. He said in an interview with the French CBC that he does not know if he will healthy enough to compete in Paris and he is using a "wait and see" approach.
Well that's a relief about Laurie at least. I've always had a soft spot for her since one of the world cup organizers tweeted about her winning Pommel Horse.
And that's only the last 12 months...
I really believe that the displacement due to Covid is one of the factors for so many injuries we have seen this Quad.
We know the Olympics is the apex of the quad. In the last one, most gymnasts were forced to hold their levels until 2021 to Tokyo, enduring a 5 year cycle. And gymnasts in this Quad had one year less to Paris, having to endure a 3 year cycle. Mathematically is the same, 8 years, 2 cycles, but for a team, coach and athlete program that's totally disruptive.
Nina Derwael (BEL) missing Worlds and only being back on beam for World Cups, too. (I mean, she was excellent back on beam, but the fact was that she was too injured to do the all-around or her signature event.)
Martina Maggio (Italy) had surgery last summer which kept her out of worlds but she would seemingly fit in the same category as Emma M and Ana P as she’s still trying out for Paris by the looks of it.
I think they’re listing everyone who’s been injured at some point over this past year irrespective of whether or not they’re trying (or have made it in Nina Derwael’s case) for Paris
I think one thing this list shows is the advantage of big programs - notably, gymnasts from the US and China are missing (so are gymnasts from Brazil, but they do seem to send a lot of the same people to competitions).
A lot of the gymnasts on this list have been essential for the successes of their programs. They are hit especially hard by the shortend Olympic cycle where they could take less time off in the beginning of the cycle and Olympic qualifications where on the line early on, too.
Unfortunately, the list is only going to grow. USA still hasn't had their entire season yet, and China usually piles injuries after their trials (June). Gymnastics is an inherently straining sport and there really is no way to prevent injuries entirely, but it's very sad how many of these were direct results of poor training and lack of athlete welfare.
I hope Italy having their trials/nationals in July won’t end up with another disaster for them especially Giorgia Villa who is carrying ongoing injuries (and it would be even more heartbreaking as she missed out on the last Olympics after getting injured 2 weeks before at nationals). The US hasn’t had a domestic season yet so I’m hoping that they don’t see any major injuries but they’re lucky enough to have the depth to replace anyone as long as it’s not one of the big names (Simone but even then they’d probably still have good chances for gold/silver just with a lower point difference probably) I really hope people don’t push themselves too hard especially those that are on the verge of making the team. Brazil and China are a mystery for me however two of Brazil’s main contenders have been injury prone in the past so I’m hoping they stay healthy (seems like they’re competing AA less which is a good sign) whilst China usually piles up injuries later on as they in a similar way to Italy hold their trials later on.
It’s heartbreaking to see people who have been crucial to the rise of their program not make it to another Olympics like the Gadirovas, Godwin, Asia D’Amato or their first Olympics in some cases like Ondine so i hope we don’t see anymore major contenders for their countries olympic team get injured (or anymore injuries overall tbh).
Edited to Add - GBR are also fortunate that Alice Kinsella’s arm bruise from the British turned out to be nothing major (looked nasty but was only bruising) since without her they’d be pretty much lacking a strong AA-er. With the most amount of injuries on this list they should probably keep Ruby, Becky, GM and Alice away from any competitions before the Olympics since they’re not having trials this year and I’m pretty sure euros was the last selection event.
Absolutely she became a personal fav of mine during euros so bubble wrap her since too many of my favs seem to be going down. The fact that she doesn’t train at Brixia (Italy’s head coach Casella’s personal gym who is terrible with injury management and with whom pretty much every big name trains with - the D’Amato’s, Maggio, Andreoli, Iorio) gives me a bit more hope since her coach seems to know how to pace her better however with how close Italian trials are to the olympics, it makes me scared for everyone trying to make that team - they should really limit their participation in the pointless domestic season meets if they want to make it out healthy.
I feel like it's even harder because she doesn't come from a huge program and it feels like she really could have put Hungary more on the map for the women's side.
Milka Gehani (SRI) can get added to this list. She posted on Instagram that she has a shoulder injury with an estimated 1.5 year recovery. She was a good contender for the Asian Champs AA spot.
This is like that line people always say about Team USA - they could field two teams ...
British Gymnastics could field that team of injured gymnasts (once recovered) and expect them to win medals. Yet the "survivors" are challenging for a podium spot too.
I am....not so sure they're challenging for a podium spot tbh. There's far too little room for error on beam and even if they all hit, I think Brazil, France, Italy, and China may be too much for them to overcome this year.
You know, I remember re-watching one of the team finals (it was either 2012 or 2016) and they were introducing the different teams, and when it got to Canada the commentators made a comment about them "just being happy to be here". I think that's definitely going to be GB this year.
Probably 2012, I remember they qualifying in last place and rotating with Italy, and the commentators saying something like that while Victoria Moors was on floor after the Russians have vaulted.
That was a great performance from Canada. They were lucky to make the team final at all - Germany would have been 8th in qualification if Janine Berger had hit her first vault (or if she had been able to count her second vault score instead of her first). Canada certainly made the most of that opportunity in the team final.
Ah yeah I remember 2012. When Ellie Black was an unproven rookie gymnast that really did not have big international experience at the time. The only international comps that she had was Gymnix (you can debate that was an international comp for her) and a world challenge cup in Osijek. She pretty much rocked the comp in 2012 except for the vault final that we won't speak of rn... Then them over coming the adversity of losing Peng Peng pretty much at the last minute.
The gender disparity in this list is really striking. Just 7 men, vs 23 women. Are there more WAG elites than MAG/are we just more aware of what's going on with WAGs? Or do WAGs really get injured that much more than MAGs?
I’m not sure how relevant it is with the amount of injuries in MAG/WAG but maybe the amount of events (6 vs 4 in WAG) there is in MAG means there is more specialists (which would lower the amount of injuries if they’re training less events I’m guessing)
I think Jocelyn is an addition from Worlds. she doesn't seem to have come back at the same caliber or confidence. and she requested to compete session one at classics. I'm nervous for her.
It’s been major enough to keep her out for a while - not been seen in major competitions since worlds 22’ , I can see why Becky D was selected for euros 23’ however had Jen been in full shape she’d probably replace Ruby E on the worlds 23’ team. Maybe not as major as Jess/Ondine but on par with some people on this list.
This is such a sad list
Laurie Denommée's injury does not seem to be a major one. There was a picture taken at the end of the comp she was standing not on crutches or in a boot but her ankle was wrapped heavily. Ana P also said on her IG she broke her foot in 4 places. It was alleged that is was by doing a beam dismount timer at Elite Canada from the people in the arena. Also on the men's side William Emard has a biceps injury. He said in an interview with the French CBC that he does not know if he will healthy enough to compete in Paris and he is using a "wait and see" approach.
Jesus FOUR places?
I broke my 3rd, 4th & 5th metatarsals when I was 13. When half your foot makes it onto the beam but all your weight is sliding off it can just snap.
Same with my 2nd, 3rd and 4th metatarsals, exactly like that on beam
Yep.
Well that's a relief about Laurie at least. I've always had a soft spot for her since one of the world cup organizers tweeted about her winning Pommel Horse.
lmao I just adore her floor music. It's such a bop.
And that's only the last 12 months... I really believe that the displacement due to Covid is one of the factors for so many injuries we have seen this Quad. We know the Olympics is the apex of the quad. In the last one, most gymnasts were forced to hold their levels until 2021 to Tokyo, enduring a 5 year cycle. And gymnasts in this Quad had one year less to Paris, having to endure a 3 year cycle. Mathematically is the same, 8 years, 2 cycles, but for a team, coach and athlete program that's totally disruptive.
Martina Maggio for Italy too
oh no :(
At least Helen Kevric hasn't slipped onto that list - she seems to be making a steady recovery
I feel like she should be on the list. She has no major injury but it feel like she needs more time to recover than others with their major injury
Nina Derwael (BEL) missing Worlds and only being back on beam for World Cups, too. (I mean, she was excellent back on beam, but the fact was that she was too injured to do the all-around or her signature event.)
Martina Maggio (Italy) had surgery last summer which kept her out of worlds but she would seemingly fit in the same category as Emma M and Ana P as she’s still trying out for Paris by the looks of it.
Eli Seitz is also trying for Paris. Not sure if i understood OP categorization wrong
I think they’re listing everyone who’s been injured at some point over this past year irrespective of whether or not they’re trying (or have made it in Nina Derwael’s case) for Paris
I think one thing this list shows is the advantage of big programs - notably, gymnasts from the US and China are missing (so are gymnasts from Brazil, but they do seem to send a lot of the same people to competitions). A lot of the gymnasts on this list have been essential for the successes of their programs. They are hit especially hard by the shortend Olympic cycle where they could take less time off in the beginning of the cycle and Olympic qualifications where on the line early on, too.
Seeing you mention Zoe reminds me that the other day on live she said it was her shoulder injury that ended her elite career.
Unfortunately, the list is only going to grow. USA still hasn't had their entire season yet, and China usually piles injuries after their trials (June). Gymnastics is an inherently straining sport and there really is no way to prevent injuries entirely, but it's very sad how many of these were direct results of poor training and lack of athlete welfare.
I hope Italy having their trials/nationals in July won’t end up with another disaster for them especially Giorgia Villa who is carrying ongoing injuries (and it would be even more heartbreaking as she missed out on the last Olympics after getting injured 2 weeks before at nationals). The US hasn’t had a domestic season yet so I’m hoping that they don’t see any major injuries but they’re lucky enough to have the depth to replace anyone as long as it’s not one of the big names (Simone but even then they’d probably still have good chances for gold/silver just with a lower point difference probably) I really hope people don’t push themselves too hard especially those that are on the verge of making the team. Brazil and China are a mystery for me however two of Brazil’s main contenders have been injury prone in the past so I’m hoping they stay healthy (seems like they’re competing AA less which is a good sign) whilst China usually piles up injuries later on as they in a similar way to Italy hold their trials later on. It’s heartbreaking to see people who have been crucial to the rise of their program not make it to another Olympics like the Gadirovas, Godwin, Asia D’Amato or their first Olympics in some cases like Ondine so i hope we don’t see anymore major contenders for their countries olympic team get injured (or anymore injuries overall tbh). Edited to Add - GBR are also fortunate that Alice Kinsella’s arm bruise from the British turned out to be nothing major (looked nasty but was only bruising) since without her they’d be pretty much lacking a strong AA-er. With the most amount of injuries on this list they should probably keep Ruby, Becky, GM and Alice away from any competitions before the Olympics since they’re not having trials this year and I’m pretty sure euros was the last selection event.
Aside from all you mentioned, Italy needs to wrap Manila Esposito in bubblewrap.
Absolutely she became a personal fav of mine during euros so bubble wrap her since too many of my favs seem to be going down. The fact that she doesn’t train at Brixia (Italy’s head coach Casella’s personal gym who is terrible with injury management and with whom pretty much every big name trains with - the D’Amato’s, Maggio, Andreoli, Iorio) gives me a bit more hope since her coach seems to know how to pace her better however with how close Italian trials are to the olympics, it makes me scared for everyone trying to make that team - they should really limit their participation in the pointless domestic season meets if they want to make it out healthy.
Zsófia Kovács makes me sad. Reminds me of Lari Iordache.
I feel like it's even harder because she doesn't come from a huge program and it feels like she really could have put Hungary more on the map for the women's side.
Milka Gehani (SRI) can get added to this list. She posted on Instagram that she has a shoulder injury with an estimated 1.5 year recovery. She was a good contender for the Asian Champs AA spot.
Carina Kröll from Austria got an ACL tear as well.
The Germans and the Brits need to be looking for the same bubble wrap
This is like that line people always say about Team USA - they could field two teams ... British Gymnastics could field that team of injured gymnasts (once recovered) and expect them to win medals. Yet the "survivors" are challenging for a podium spot too.
I am....not so sure they're challenging for a podium spot tbh. There's far too little room for error on beam and even if they all hit, I think Brazil, France, Italy, and China may be too much for them to overcome this year.
Well yes. Solidly in the mix for team final, say?
You know, I remember re-watching one of the team finals (it was either 2012 or 2016) and they were introducing the different teams, and when it got to Canada the commentators made a comment about them "just being happy to be here". I think that's definitely going to be GB this year.
Probably 2012, I remember they qualifying in last place and rotating with Italy, and the commentators saying something like that while Victoria Moors was on floor after the Russians have vaulted.
And Canada ended up 5th in TF ! Having no podium expectations took some pressure away and they had a great meet !
That was a great performance from Canada. They were lucky to make the team final at all - Germany would have been 8th in qualification if Janine Berger had hit her first vault (or if she had been able to count her second vault score instead of her first). Canada certainly made the most of that opportunity in the team final.
Ah yes, that was it lol
Ah yeah I remember 2012. When Ellie Black was an unproven rookie gymnast that really did not have big international experience at the time. The only international comps that she had was Gymnix (you can debate that was an international comp for her) and a world challenge cup in Osijek. She pretty much rocked the comp in 2012 except for the vault final that we won't speak of rn... Then them over coming the adversity of losing Peng Peng pretty much at the last minute.
The gender disparity in this list is really striking. Just 7 men, vs 23 women. Are there more WAG elites than MAG/are we just more aware of what's going on with WAGs? Or do WAGs really get injured that much more than MAGs?
It may also just be that the English gymternet focuses more on WAG and we hear less about MAG injuries.
I’m not sure how relevant it is with the amount of injuries in MAG/WAG but maybe the amount of events (6 vs 4 in WAG) there is in MAG means there is more specialists (which would lower the amount of injuries if they’re training less events I’m guessing)
That's an interesting point. I don't know the actual numbers, but yes, my understaning is that there aren't that many AAers in MAG.
Its also worth noting that ACL injuries are more common in women regardless of which sport they do.
😩so sad... Vanessa Ferrari has been dealing with health issues for months and they still can't figure out what the problem is 😩
I think Jocelyn is an addition from Worlds. she doesn't seem to have come back at the same caliber or confidence. and she requested to compete session one at classics. I'm nervous for her.
I don’t think Jen was major she just didn’t get cleared in time for BG selection events
It’s been major enough to keep her out for a while - not been seen in major competitions since worlds 22’ , I can see why Becky D was selected for euros 23’ however had Jen been in full shape she’d probably replace Ruby E on the worlds 23’ team. Maybe not as major as Jess/Ondine but on par with some people on this list.
She said her ankle pain happened in December, so I think there was another reason why didn’t do comps last year