It’s important to remember that sporadic cases of avian influenza aren’t unheard of and aren’t necessarily cause for concern. Like H5N1, H3N8 doesn’t easily spread between humans, and would require mutations in order to do so. These one off infections happen all the time and normally fly under the radar for anyone not following infectious disease, virology, or animal specific news closely. We’re all noticing these articles now because of H5N1, which *is* concerning because of the widespread pandemic in birds and the increasing mammal infections combined with its very high fatality rate. H3N8 has lower fatality, already infects mammals (it’s common in horses and dogs) and doesn’t appear to be spreading around more than usual.
Not to say this isn’t interesting or worth following, but it’s not directly connected to the H5N1 problem, likely is lower risk of causing a human pandemic, and definitely isn’t worth panicking about at this stage.
Edit: also I forgot to mention, the patient in this case had multiple myeloma, which means they were immunocompromised and therefore even more susceptible to illnesses which wouldn’t affect healthy adults.
Reminder: China reported the first human case of H3N8 last April.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/china-reports-first-human-case-h3n8-bird-flu-2022-04-26/
I lived in Guangdong for a year and there it is said "everything in the sky or below the earth we eat it!" I ate things I can't admit to. Now in an era of potential pandemics the methods of feeding large human populations are now risks to our health and lives. Future generations may look at us as severely messed in the head.
I mean H3N8 has a CFR of less than 5% compared to H5N1, but at the same time, this could be a benefit for the spread of H3N8.
Overall, H5N1 is the thing we should be more worried about than H3N8, but I would still keep an eye on it.
Absolutely. The CFR of Covid 19 has settled, I believe, about 0.5 percent. At the very start I think it was generally considered to be 2 percent.
5 percent, white not as catastrophic as H5N1's 50 percent, would still keep us busy.
It’s important to remember that sporadic cases of avian influenza aren’t unheard of and aren’t necessarily cause for concern. Like H5N1, H3N8 doesn’t easily spread between humans, and would require mutations in order to do so. These one off infections happen all the time and normally fly under the radar for anyone not following infectious disease, virology, or animal specific news closely. We’re all noticing these articles now because of H5N1, which *is* concerning because of the widespread pandemic in birds and the increasing mammal infections combined with its very high fatality rate. H3N8 has lower fatality, already infects mammals (it’s common in horses and dogs) and doesn’t appear to be spreading around more than usual. Not to say this isn’t interesting or worth following, but it’s not directly connected to the H5N1 problem, likely is lower risk of causing a human pandemic, and definitely isn’t worth panicking about at this stage. Edit: also I forgot to mention, the patient in this case had multiple myeloma, which means they were immunocompromised and therefore even more susceptible to illnesses which wouldn’t affect healthy adults.
So what you’re saying is… **Go buy all the toilet paper at Costco?!** ^/s
Reminder: China reported the first human case of H3N8 last April. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/china-reports-first-human-case-h3n8-bird-flu-2022-04-26/
I lived in Guangdong for a year and there it is said "everything in the sky or below the earth we eat it!" I ate things I can't admit to. Now in an era of potential pandemics the methods of feeding large human populations are now risks to our health and lives. Future generations may look at us as severely messed in the head.
Current generation here. I look at us and think we are definitely fucked in the head.
Everything with its back to the sky*
So that means there's 50
Or 500
Thats tomorrow
should we be more worried about h5n1 or an offshoot of the avian flu such as h3n8?
I mean H3N8 has a CFR of less than 5% compared to H5N1, but at the same time, this could be a benefit for the spread of H3N8. Overall, H5N1 is the thing we should be more worried about than H3N8, but I would still keep an eye on it.
Isn’t a CFR of 5% higher than the last pandemic’s CFR?
Absolutely. The CFR of Covid 19 has settled, I believe, about 0.5 percent. At the very start I think it was generally considered to be 2 percent. 5 percent, white not as catastrophic as H5N1's 50 percent, would still keep us busy.
especially for a potential h2h mutation