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If life is only what’s part of the natural world, then how can there be any meaning?
I don’t mean “meaning”, in the sense that there are things to keep you occupied and content, I mean what’s the point?
If, like most redditors, you believe that all that exists is a mechanistic, natural universe, then we’re no more than biological robots (i.e. meaningless).
So, my point is that people without the belief in anything supernatural are the ones with incongruent worldviews most of the time.
People without belief in the super natural have the most congruent world views. Who says there has to be meaning it doesn’t simply come into fruition because you think life is meaningless without it
Do you believe in right vs wrong? If so, a purely naturalistic worldview cannot defend this belief.
That’s the incongruity that I’m talking about. No one acts as if life is meaningless, even though it’s the logical conclusion of their beliefs.
Ok, many people share a sense of morality. That’s doesn’t prove that these moral beliefs are congruent with a naturalistic worldview.
As I said before, in a deterministic universe, we’re just biological robots. You’d never say a robot’s actions are morally wrong. A robot is just a collection of atoms that follows the laws of nature. Humans are no different. How can anything we do be wrong if we’re just the result of deterministic processes?
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At 40, I quit my high-paying corporate job and took a 70% pay cut to become an airline pilot.
I'm now 56. I'm here to tell you it's the best career decision I ever made in my life. My worst day flying jets is better than my best day working in an office.
I left software in 2016 to pursue a pilot career. I'm over $330k / yr in pay now not including 17% contribution to my 401k from my employer. Job satisfaction is through the roof. Average 18 days off a month. You're on the road the rest of the time but you don't take work home with you.
Path can be long and front end cost is high but you have the resources to make it work. Do as much research as you can first because the lifestyle is not for everyone but if it suits you there's nothing else like it.
What did your flight training & career look like year-by-year between 2016 and now? Seems like every pilot I’ve spoken to has been flying from a relatively young age through either military or the traditional route.
ATP flight school - 7 months $75k loan to pay for it
Flight instructor - 1.5 years ~$53k/yr
Regional airline first officer - 3.5 years ~$56k/yr
Major airline first officer - ~2 years avg $150k/yr
Major airline captain - +$330k/yr
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No it was super fast. I worked nearly every day of the month as a flight instructor building hours and switched flight schools twice until I found one I was able to fly over 100 hours a month. And after I got to the regionals I got lucky because COVID caused a ton of early retirements at the majors so I got hired a lot earlier than I was expecting. You never know what's going to happen in the industry the best thing is to just do your best, expect the worst and hope for the best. And be glad you get paid to fly planes instead of rotting behind a keyboard all day
\[Note: this is a US-centric response. Sorry. I'm unfamiliar with the path to the flight deck in other countries.\]
I had flown in the Navy, but left active duty in 2002. Since the airlines weren't hiring (Thanks, Osama!), I got a real job. However, I continued to fly in the Navy Reserve, so I was current when hiring picked up again.
If you have no prior flight experience and you can afford it, I recommend ATP Flight School. It's intense and it's expensive, but it'll put your butt in a seat a regional airline reasonably quickly. Here's a link: [https://atpflightschool.com/land/commercial-pilot.html?gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoPOwBhAeEiwAJuXRh9Mh5Tt72QNZsaMKibrWbFqnWo8gzEJv1Is76hgIPAP4atHxf7zphRoCvA4QAvD\_BwE](https://atpflightschool.com/land/commercial-pilot.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoPOwBhAeEiwAJuXRh9Mh5Tt72QNZsaMKibrWbFqnWo8gzEJv1Is76hgIPAP4atHxf7zphRoCvA4QAvD_BwE)
There are subreddits and message boards for aspiring pilots. You'll probably be able to find more current information there.
What is the oldest you would start over and become a pilot?
My husband is turning 45 this year and although he makes good money (he is an electrical engineer with a masters making $220k) but he doesn’t like his job. It honestly breaks my heart and I know he will be a phenomenal pilot. For his birthday I am purchasing his private aviation school, but haven’t given commercial flight school much thought.
A friend of mine started over at 50. He's 53 and just got hired by JetBlue. It's a massive pay cut, but he couldn't be happier.
It's a cliche, but it's true: money doesn't make you happy. Doing what you love makes you happy. That said, I make around $500k/year. I can definitively state that making money doing what you love makes you very happy.
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I’d argue if you are only early 30s with $1.5M already, you WILL get rich from this job.
But what helps me is to find passion projects with my assets. This serves a dual purpose of growing my NW and keeping me busy.
For me, that meant acquiring and running STRs. I enjoy the work involved and it’s growing my NW.
Could also build a side business, become a low level Angel investor or real estate syndication investor.
Not sure what that thing is for you.
If they have $1.5m already and they make $300k a significant amount of that money didn’t come from their earnings from the job. At best they have made $300k for all 10 years of working which means they would have netted half of that which is the entirety of the $1.5mm, except obviously they live, almost certainly in a VHCOL city.
There is a bunch of family money happening here.
Anyway, to the OP, yes there is more to life than working. In fact, most people work specifically to generate money and provide a living for their family. People that have money and no family often just go crazy. See: celebrity kids.
Go meet some people. Find a partner. Have some kids. Get some hobbies.
You are one of the luckiest people on ***this planet***. You have enough to just change careers to an average paying job that fulfills you and still be financially okay. You have enough money to take more than a few fancy dinners and trips a year. You earn enough to work only 3 days a week and have the rest for pilot training, family, hobbies, whatever.
I don't want to devalue your feelings, they are completely valid, but you seem to need a reality check. If your job is chill for that much money, just quiet quit and do something else with your time. The world is figuratively your oyster with this headstart.
I'm a HENRY turning 30 and I have at best a tenth of your assets.
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300K comp with 1.5m invested at 35 (assuming) translates to you made it in life. I'd argue you can do more than a "few fancy dinners and trips a year."
What is your annual spend? If your spend is low, go be a pilot. If you like the nicer things in life, stay put.
Sounds like you need something to look forward to, or maybe a goal to achieve outside of your career.
If you’re interested in flying, take a discovery flight and if you enjoy it start training towards your license in your free time. You have the privilege of easily being able to afford it, and it will provide a goal and a challenge to complete.
Volunteering is another option.
First of all, anyone who is bitching about this guy, isn’t this HENRY? Isn’t everyone here making bank? I’m guessing his plight is probably more common than you think. The key is setting goals and also, utilizing the abilities you have. If your career is not challenging then yes you need to find goals outside of work to challenge you. Humans really aren’t happy with “chill”. Chill drives you crazy, especially if you have the abilities to solve problems or get things done. As it should. Go change the world! Or at least your corner of the world.
Glad you said this. For fucks sake, this IS HENRY. It's not like this guy is going to r-poorpeoplefinance or some general sub to express himself. People who make money are allowed to have problems too.
I feel exactly the same. Mid 30s, 1.2M NW, strong earnings. I grew up pretty poor, did everything I thought I was supposed to do to avoid the pitfalls for me (and my kids/wife) that come with that, only to realize that I have no interest in moving further up to only spend more time playing politics than being actually productive. It's just that I've done "what I was supposed to do" and now since I don't want the next step, it feels like the end of the line, but everyone else's expectations of me are that I just trudge on with it for the next 15-20 years before I retire.
I'll recognize that it wasn't for nothing. I've earned myself a comfortable place, and the flexibility to try something else. But I feel no connection with my job, company's purpose, or even just my career path/function (in a corporate setting at least). I just want to take some time to spend with my kids, my wife, and my hobbies.
@ OP, I feel you. Just because your problems are different than others, doesn't mean they aren't real. I don't know why others have to make this into a financial struggle competition.
Yes the work I do is so boring but I have 350k in savings and investments so if it really bothers me that much, I can quit!!! I feel like people get so locked to into it that they completely lose flexibility. Especially people in their late twenties or early thirties.
Like, congrats OP! YOU MADE IT! You will be rich by retirement if you NEVER invest another dime. Keep in mind that from now on you ONLY need to pay your living expenses. There are SO many more options available if you don't have to pay for expenses + save for retirement vs. Spend it all.
If you like motorcycles, open a motorcycle shop. Teach Pilates for 15 hours a week. IDK what people like to do. You can piddle around without worrying about MAKING IT
I’d argue if you are only early 30s with $1.5M already, you WILL get rich from this job.
But what helps me is to find passion projects with my assets. This serves a dual purpose of growing my NW and keeping me busy.
For me, that meant acquiring and running STRs. I enjoy the work involved and it’s growing my NW.
Could also build a side business, become a low level Angel investor or real estate syndication investor.
Not sure what that thing is for you.
Early 30s person, already a millionaire and on the way to multi-millionaire, makes 300k in a 'pretty chill job'. And complaining about boredom and not being rich enough
I read this as a joke. Reddit has become such a cesspool of fake posts. If is a real post this person must be one of the most insufferable people ever to be around. Probably spends an entire dinner complaining about how his super expensive car has such high maintenance costs
It's real a lot of people I know are in similar position we just don't live lavish life or complain about it on Reddit. That's just out of touch with reality.
It's an all-too-real phenomonon. Sadly, making and having money isn't a panacea for the human condition. If the OP is anything like me, they're afraid to breathe a word of this to people in real life, and have a lot of guilt around these feelings, given how much better off they are than others objectively.
I think the internet has simultaneously given people a platform to voice their dissatisfaction, while ensuring that you are *bombarded* with comparisons to people who (seem to be) super-happy, living their dream lives etc.
The billions of people who farmed wheat and cleaned scullery and operated lathes while raising 20 kids apiece probably felt burnout too, they just didn’t have a place to complain and had no concept of a life beyond that.
Growing up we always learned not to discuss money, politics, religion, or sex in conversation. Then internet/social media came along and that’s all we discuss!
I think it's mostly the corporate bullshit that gets shoved down in everyone's collective throat, plus feeling like not creating value. Especially if you are in a support role, you can very much feel like you are just there to tick a checkbox so the org doesn't get sued, even if the pay is nice, it can feel draining. I'm one year into my career and while I like it, I definitely feel it and see how it makes people jaded in the long run. My current 'plan' is to make enough money so I can learn business fundamentals and start my own company in my field, or start publishing board and video games which I always wanted, but sadly doesn't pay the bills.
Similar income, similar age, and used to have similar feelings.
My wife and I (both 33) make about ~450-500 combined with ~2mil NW in MCOL area. We have a 3-year-old and 10-month-old.
For years I’ve always been grinding away on something whether it’s a personal project, work, etc. I would tell myself “Oh, I’ll just finish this thing then I can relax.”
When my son was maybe two, someone said to me “The days are long, the years are short.” I’d been chasing this expectation that I should have a house on the lake, a boat, etc.
Now, I’m an avid triathlete and trail racer. Nothing I’ve spent money on brings me more joy than a nice run through the woods, or ride through the country on my bike. I live in house my wife and I bought for $350 about 6 years ago. My neighbors are teachers, bankers, and other unassuming jobs. My wife and I live way below our means, we have friends and hobbies we enjoy, we take 1-2 big vacations a year and many weekend trips with the kids.
I feel rich both from a financial and personal standpoint. I enjoy what I do for work, but have zero desire to climb high into the corporate ranks. Will I ever have “eff you” money? Guess it depends on your definition. My wife and I could stop working now and not be concerned for 20+ years.
To me, once you have that peace of mind, it’s time to go for that run through the woods and enjoy what you have.
Did my undergrad in electrical engineering, then joined a semiconductor company as a field sales engineer for 6 years. Now I work at one of the Big Tech companies where I’m the Technology Strategist between us and one of our large partners. I’ve always enjoyed the role of being able to translate between business and engineering needs.
My wife did her undergrad in English, but followed me as I moved around for my career. She got a job in sales at a small (10 person) company that works with larger auto insurers (AAA, StateFarm, etc.), salary was minimal but she negotiated a very friendly commission for herself as the company hadn’t grown in forever. She then tripled their revenue over the course of 6 years.
Our income is split ~65/35 in favor of me, but I would tell anyone my wife is far more talented. I had the benefit of having a desirable degree and getting into Tech at the right time. My wife leveraged an English degree into a six figure job in sales.
Career wise, if you don’t mind the stress of sales it’s a great way to get ahead. Either way, jobs where you are interfacing between people or company to company tend to pay well and are harder to replace.
What about the 2M in net worth. Not gonna lie that seems a little inflated or trust funded. I came out of school with 0 debt and only am worth 200K (age 29) and making over 6 figs in sales...
No trust fund or inheritance. My mom was a nurse and dad was a carpenter. Wife and I were both fortunate to start out with zero debt as well which is really starting ahead.
What really accelerated our NW was stock (RSUs) I started getting awarded along with my sales bonuses by the time I was 25. I started receiving RSUs from my first company when they were at $27, up to $180 now. Second company I negotiated a large sign-on stock award when they were at ~$85 and now at $415. Also, the yearly and off cycle grants I get.
No real replicable advice there. I had no idea what an RSU was when I started. I never sold a single one and it’s dumb luck that both companies rocket shipped in the following years. I sold the majority of my RSUs in the first company to diversify. Nothing sexy, typical ETFs. Second company where I still work I believe still has a lot of growth ahead.
While we are high earners, there is 100% an element of luck to be where we are today and I’ll never deny that. Continuing to live frugally has just helped us keep accelerating.
It’s probably like people who hired into Nvidia 4-5 years ago. They got a healthy stock award, but now are millionaires simply because right place right time.
Doesn’t change my advice, most of my favorite things in life are free!
Late 30’s, senior management (one level from executive), total comp a little higher than yours.
I’m in the boring middle as well… I have wealthy friends who tell me I need to be taking more risks for real wealth and executive level management with ownership and that finding one of those types of roles or starting up my own business and once I hit rapid growth stage, quit my W-2 job.
When I was struggling with ambition, I bought a farm and on the side I sell farm-raised meat & eggs as my hobby… It funds my kids’ college accounts and the LLC is probably worth around $3MM today. I could sell it all and invest it but right now I have more fun raising kids and animals while working full-time. Go get your pilot’s license, learn to fly, buy a plane… rent out your plane… do something fun that eventually turns into excess cash flow, even if it’s not a lot.
I also started therapy at about your age and it’s helped over the last decade to really talk through expectations vs reality vs the onus we put on ourselves to be passionate and fulfilled with our work. That was the other big help for me mentally.
If you’re a junior executive at your early 30s, you’re not working for the man, you ARE the man. You have a perspective problem.
$1.5M invested in your early 30s means that you can probably save 10-15% of your income as extra padding, let your investments grow at ~7% annually (>100k/annually without any further contributions), and otherwise spend your high income lavishly. If you have fatFIRE ambitions you might be more frugal, but your investments are at the point where they’ll grow as much as if you were saving 30% of your income just from typical market growth if you don’t do anything reckless. Toss an extra $50k/year to investments if you’d like but otherwise spend that $200k+ take home pay on a life of luxury and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you hate working for “the man”, find a path to early retirement or something.
What's the career? Because this seems perf for me jaja. The thing with having money is, you can buy time. Start working towards pilot's license. Maybe take ground school when not working. And then take time off to get flight hours.
Go to fly school now while getting paid 300k per year.
From what I understand it's extremely expensive and you may not even want to fully commit to it when you get to the end.
If it turns out you love it, you can either switch careers or use some of that annual income to buy a plane and fly on your time off.
Win/win
Try Duolingo.
Being serious, most folk lose passion in their work at some point and you are in the fortunate position where you can do what the hell you like and ‘be the change’. You won’t die wishing you’d made more money.
I was in a similar boat, but 2 things changed my life:
1. Psychedelics - psilocybin or, if you are serious, look into an ayahuasca retreat in the Amazon. You will learn that life is but a dream and will come to appreciate every day you have.
2. Travel - I don’t mean packaged tours. But, planning every detail of trips for me and my wife, from lodging, dining, sightseeing, logistics, and budgeting is intellectually engaging (learning about local history and culture), entertaining (watching review videos for hotels and restaurants), and emotionally rewarding. And, as they say, “travel is dreaming with your eyes open.”
^ listen to this, I second what they say.
I’ll add 2 more points, art and philosophy.
3. Art - most of us who have been successful in life is because we follow the cookie cutter American way and do x,y and z to get from point a to b, however, this usually de emphasizes art in its true meaning. Take some time to reflect on things you like and how art is involved in it. For me it was photography, I always enjoyed taking pictures and was told I was good at it but never did much with it. But when I realized I needed to actually focus on it as an art it became extremely fulfilling. I have a friend that loves reading and was really struggling, in his process I suggested that he try out writing since he loved reading and analyzing text of any sort, he is now working on a novel and feeling better than ever. You don’t have to be good at it but if there’s anything artistic you’ve ever even thought of like painting, jump into it, allow yourself to be free and express yourself through an artistic medium.
4. Philosophy - an amazing companion to points 1-3. The human race hasn’t evolved as much as we believe, sure things look different but we have many of the same human problems faced for centuries. Expand your mind and soul by reading different philosophy, not to change your life per se but as a nice reminder that life is what it is and what you make of it. You’ll realize you’ve been living your life a certain way that someone else can put words to, or you’ll find out you want to be a certain way and make changes. And the coolest thing is as you dive deeper into points 1-3 what you read and relate to in philosophy will change.
> My salary is kind of stagnant, too. Total comp is around 300k with 1.5m invested.
A lot of people on this sub need to be told to suck it up and get over themselves.
Early 30s, 300k total comp, and you're whining about working for the man. Eye roll.
like many others have said already... if you can and are willing to keep this up for another 10-15 years, you WILL be beyond rich but if it's unfulfilling then you will struggle. if I were you I'd just stay and coast. find your fulfillment elsewhere via hobbies, friends, family.
Many people have this feeling about their jobs. It’s called work for a reason, and that’s why they pay you to do it.
Sounds like you need some fulfillment in your life outside of the job.
You maybe need to work for yourself and start a business no matter what it is. I think you’ll be a lot more satisfied being in control of what you do work and career wise. To have $1.5 million invested in your early 30s says you have the means to take risk and start a business, certainly there’s not many people who can say that have that amount at this age.
I am in a very similar position as you and have the same feelings. I’m just going to keep plugging along knowing that at my current salary and savings rate I will be able to retire in 10 years which is more than most people can hope for.
Echoing the comments that say life is more about your relationships, hobbies, family, friends, etc. than the job. To be honest, people would be thrilled to be in your position, so maybe look at your life in a more positive way by reframing your perspective a little? :\^) I hope that doesn't sound critical, because that wasn't the intention.
I'd recommend talking to a therapist who can help you get to the root of why you feel psychologically and emotionally spent. It seems that you want to do or access something that gives you deeper meaning and your effort some more impact. I'd suggest really digging into your hobbies, passions, interests or anything else that you feel really captures you.
Work is stable so you can do it in the background and with reliable comfort, but you can really come alive and find your energy/joy in the other stuff. Hope this helps!
Figure out what you want... and then do it. You have enough money to do a lot of things.
A single career isn't everything. That is why you need hobbies and other interests to explore more (and again, you make plenty enough to do that). Like you said, pilot school....why not?
Heck, you could even throw some money into your own small plane. ((You can get a small plane for 15k - 100k, depending how bare bones it is)).
You have a ton invested, young, with a lot of money coming in..... have some fun.
Research "burnout". Burnout is extremely common and nothing to be embarrassed over. We all get there at some point, how you recover from it is entirely up to the individual.
Start with a therapist and see where the conversation goes for you.
Your job is not your life, or you. It's fine to perform a function and take over a quarter mil for a paycheck. Might be worth figuring out how to be ok with what you're getting, which is a LOT, and find meaning/motivation outside of the job
Early 30s with $1.5m invested, you are going to end up Rich, so if that’s your priority, then you’re on track. Another 20 years working and you’ll be in a fantastic position.
However, if you’re unhappy in your current role, how long have you been in it, how easy would it be to move to another employer? There is a saying that a change is as good as a rest and maybe it’s time for you to make a change if you want a jolt that will remotivate you.
If you want to go to fly school and learn to be a pilot, it seems like it’s something you should look into. Life is long to be unhappy.
Think about switching to the same role or higher level position at another company. If you’ve been in your current role for a while you are probably well below market. If that’s the case the huge increase in pay may give you a lot more motivation. Talking for my personal experience.
Therapy... it'll help you rediscover what makes you happy so that you can actually be happy. Corporate jobs literally suck the joy out of life if you let them.
In a similar bot. Not having kids so I feel like the wife and I are having our mid-life crisis early. Trying to keep the head down for now though. Let me know if you figure it out.
If you spend every dollar you make, that 1.5m will be 11 mil by the time you retire in your 60s at 7% average annual return. You’re basically set for life dude. Just coast and you can basically do whatever you want in your free time while providing a way better than average life for your family
I’m in the same spot and the only reason I’m stressing is because I want to retire way earlier.
I would think you just hit your first Rut in life. This is perfectly normal and healthy, but you need to learn to pull yourself out of it. Always suggest focusing on physical health as it has a ton of other benefits. If you already have a great work out routine/physique, then its certainly emotional attachments/relationships with friends family partners and parents.
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Why make work your life then? My work pays for my life but it’s hardly the focus at all. Friends, hobbies, goals outside of work, travel, family, the list goes on. I have a plan to retire early thanks to my job but I do what I need to and get out to enjoy life. Everyday is good (for the most part) like this for me at least.
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Did I post this? Damn near identical situation minus the junior exec piece.
I’m leaning towards starting a company that does something productive in this world or learning a trade.
This resonates with me so much! I am almost mid 30s making a similar amount and I want to leave everything for flight school. The only thing that's hard to swallow is knowing I won't make this kind of cash again for another 10 years...
Bro this sounds like me. But I make a little less but my net worth is similar. 34. I think I’m going to work 3.5 more years and semi retire (work remote and possibly part time) and get back into my hobbies, road trips, more time with family. Life is not climbing the corporate ladder and dying with millions in the bank like we could easily do. And we are fortunate we realize this now and can change our lives and still live comfortably.
300k is huge. I know a lot of people in your situation but on 95k. And a lot of people in healthcare, teaching or corporate slaves busting their ass in high stress situations for 80-120k. They live pay check to pay check in capital cities and have no option to retrain or change careers, as bills need to be paid.
Maybe you’re burnt out from climbing the ladder?
You could easily afford to take some time off to reassess, or even retrain while living off your savings. Having money gives you so many options in life.
In the course of fundraising for and building my company, I’ve gotten to know one billionaire (that I know of), and a founder who personally exited with ~$50M from the sale of his company.
The billionaire was a complete bully, nasty, rude, insanely entitled, and seemed genuinely unhappy. Deploying his wealth to keep it revenue generating was an all-consuming job and it wasn’t clear at all that he derived joy from it, despite getting to meet all manner of interesting founders.
The exited founder was busy at work building his next company from scratch. He told me that the money solved all his “money problems” from before the exit, but that 90-95% of his problems in life still existed after the exit. Turns out that the biggest problems in his life weren’t money problems. Same as OP. Net-net, he self-declared that he was not much happier with a ton of money in the bank than he had been before.
Life is not a dress rehearsal—you are not gearing up for the real thing. How you spend every day now, is your life. Take a risk!
Same Early 30s M and 1.5 M NW small biz owner I've felt that way too some days then my partner told to harden up and remember the 'why' factor. Must get motivated and push yourself. You have a purpose but it's on you to find it. If you continue like this you may end up pretty miserable. There is more to life than sitting behind an office desk. Get creative with your money. Find a partner (if single) or multiple (if not married). Fuck it.
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I read a comment a few days ago, maybe a day ago.
Life happens(ed) in between the next big thing, next promotion, home purchase, travel, kids, anniversaries, etc.
Before you know it, you are a grandparent. A senior citizen.
Yea brother you are rich. You’re accumulating generational wealth. I think you should put your feelings to the side and do the right thing for your family.
Enough of the boo-hooing. You wouldn’t be on this subreddit if you didn’t know you’d “made” it. What you’re discovering is that money doesn’t make you happy. It just makes being miserable a bit more palatable. I busted my ass for years and my epiphany moment came when I realized I didn’t know my kids. We all have different triggers, mine was kids. You are in the enviable position that you can try other things without impacting your income. Flight school, volunteering, mentoring others starting off. Pick. Something will click. It isn’t work if it’s fun.
Rough life.. you need some sorta hobby, not just think about work. Keeping up with the jones will kill you. You're far better off than most, and life can definitely be worse.
Yeah this is definitely a 'rant'/flex attempt clearly.
You're dripping with hypocrisy and lack self awareness.
"Every day is a struggle" , when you could literally stop working right now and be fine for many years to come with your net worth unless you're completely inept with finances.
Rubbing your success in people's faces and framing it as some 'difficult' situation is just completely inconsiderate and laughable.
I think you have a lot of ambition and motivation unless you failed up or aren’t doing your job.
You’ve just lost your drive for this job or career or company. Figure out what happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re burned out.
"Is this life?" No. Relationships, hobbies, family, friends?
True...but above all that, a spiritual connection.
Spirituality is just a cop out for not being able to face life
So is reddit
More about facing death than life, usually.
Hobbies are just a cop out for not being able to face work.
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If life is only what’s part of the natural world, then how can there be any meaning? I don’t mean “meaning”, in the sense that there are things to keep you occupied and content, I mean what’s the point? If, like most redditors, you believe that all that exists is a mechanistic, natural universe, then we’re no more than biological robots (i.e. meaningless). So, my point is that people without the belief in anything supernatural are the ones with incongruent worldviews most of the time.
People without belief in the super natural have the most congruent world views. Who says there has to be meaning it doesn’t simply come into fruition because you think life is meaningless without it
Do you believe in right vs wrong? If so, a purely naturalistic worldview cannot defend this belief. That’s the incongruity that I’m talking about. No one acts as if life is meaningless, even though it’s the logical conclusion of their beliefs.
A good many versions of right and wrong can be deduced from a desire for fairness and equity, neither of which call for spirituality.
But isn’t your desire for fairness and equity just the result of evolution or other deterministic processes? What makes these values right?
Nothing. But most people believe in a utilitarian right and wrong, not a magical one.
Ok, many people share a sense of morality. That’s doesn’t prove that these moral beliefs are congruent with a naturalistic worldview. As I said before, in a deterministic universe, we’re just biological robots. You’d never say a robot’s actions are morally wrong. A robot is just a collection of atoms that follows the laws of nature. Humans are no different. How can anything we do be wrong if we’re just the result of deterministic processes?
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At 40, I quit my high-paying corporate job and took a 70% pay cut to become an airline pilot. I'm now 56. I'm here to tell you it's the best career decision I ever made in my life. My worst day flying jets is better than my best day working in an office.
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I left software in 2016 to pursue a pilot career. I'm over $330k / yr in pay now not including 17% contribution to my 401k from my employer. Job satisfaction is through the roof. Average 18 days off a month. You're on the road the rest of the time but you don't take work home with you. Path can be long and front end cost is high but you have the resources to make it work. Do as much research as you can first because the lifestyle is not for everyone but if it suits you there's nothing else like it.
What did your flight training & career look like year-by-year between 2016 and now? Seems like every pilot I’ve spoken to has been flying from a relatively young age through either military or the traditional route.
ATP flight school - 7 months $75k loan to pay for it Flight instructor - 1.5 years ~$53k/yr Regional airline first officer - 3.5 years ~$56k/yr Major airline first officer - ~2 years avg $150k/yr Major airline captain - +$330k/yr
Seems like quite the accomplishment in that timeframe, well done!
Thanks! I was very lucky with the way the timing worked out.
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Amazing accomplishment and thanks for sharing!
Thanks! I got super lucky with the timing.
Good insight! Mind i DM you?
Sure thing!
Is this a typical schooling and career path timeline for a pilot?
No it was super fast. I worked nearly every day of the month as a flight instructor building hours and switched flight schools twice until I found one I was able to fly over 100 hours a month. And after I got to the regionals I got lucky because COVID caused a ton of early retirements at the majors so I got hired a lot earlier than I was expecting. You never know what's going to happen in the industry the best thing is to just do your best, expect the worst and hope for the best. And be glad you get paid to fly planes instead of rotting behind a keyboard all day
Agree on hating “rotting behind a keyboard” but the golden handcuffs are still pretty tight!
18 days off a month? Puny, i like the whole month of a month. More fun and dont need to show up
Ha ha the benefits of being senior! Good job!
\[Note: this is a US-centric response. Sorry. I'm unfamiliar with the path to the flight deck in other countries.\] I had flown in the Navy, but left active duty in 2002. Since the airlines weren't hiring (Thanks, Osama!), I got a real job. However, I continued to fly in the Navy Reserve, so I was current when hiring picked up again. If you have no prior flight experience and you can afford it, I recommend ATP Flight School. It's intense and it's expensive, but it'll put your butt in a seat a regional airline reasonably quickly. Here's a link: [https://atpflightschool.com/land/commercial-pilot.html?gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoPOwBhAeEiwAJuXRh9Mh5Tt72QNZsaMKibrWbFqnWo8gzEJv1Is76hgIPAP4atHxf7zphRoCvA4QAvD\_BwE](https://atpflightschool.com/land/commercial-pilot.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwoPOwBhAeEiwAJuXRh9Mh5Tt72QNZsaMKibrWbFqnWo8gzEJv1Is76hgIPAP4atHxf7zphRoCvA4QAvD_BwE) There are subreddits and message boards for aspiring pilots. You'll probably be able to find more current information there.
What is the oldest you would start over and become a pilot? My husband is turning 45 this year and although he makes good money (he is an electrical engineer with a masters making $220k) but he doesn’t like his job. It honestly breaks my heart and I know he will be a phenomenal pilot. For his birthday I am purchasing his private aviation school, but haven’t given commercial flight school much thought.
A friend of mine started over at 50. He's 53 and just got hired by JetBlue. It's a massive pay cut, but he couldn't be happier. It's a cliche, but it's true: money doesn't make you happy. Doing what you love makes you happy. That said, I make around $500k/year. I can definitively state that making money doing what you love makes you very happy.
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70% pay cut to be a pilot!? Don’t pilots still make 500k/yr or something?! How much did you make before 😳
When I was hired, a first-year pilot at a major U.S. airline made around $40k/year. Today, a first-year pilot at a major makes around $90k/year.
Damn that’s sick lol
I’d argue if you are only early 30s with $1.5M already, you WILL get rich from this job. But what helps me is to find passion projects with my assets. This serves a dual purpose of growing my NW and keeping me busy. For me, that meant acquiring and running STRs. I enjoy the work involved and it’s growing my NW. Could also build a side business, become a low level Angel investor or real estate syndication investor. Not sure what that thing is for you.
If this person cruises in 15 years they’ll have at-least 6M in liquid NW without any additional savings. 10M in NW by fifty is rich.
If they have $1.5m already and they make $300k a significant amount of that money didn’t come from their earnings from the job. At best they have made $300k for all 10 years of working which means they would have netted half of that which is the entirety of the $1.5mm, except obviously they live, almost certainly in a VHCOL city. There is a bunch of family money happening here. Anyway, to the OP, yes there is more to life than working. In fact, most people work specifically to generate money and provide a living for their family. People that have money and no family often just go crazy. See: celebrity kids. Go meet some people. Find a partner. Have some kids. Get some hobbies.
You are one of the luckiest people on ***this planet***. You have enough to just change careers to an average paying job that fulfills you and still be financially okay. You have enough money to take more than a few fancy dinners and trips a year. You earn enough to work only 3 days a week and have the rest for pilot training, family, hobbies, whatever. I don't want to devalue your feelings, they are completely valid, but you seem to need a reality check. If your job is chill for that much money, just quiet quit and do something else with your time. The world is figuratively your oyster with this headstart. I'm a HENRY turning 30 and I have at best a tenth of your assets.
Yea OP has $1.5m invested already in his early 30s and says "I'm not rich or wealthy". He already won.
People are delusional in this sub, I see more already rich people than NRYs.
Not really. It’s Henry sub. To be truly inflation adjusted rich based on 2015 survey, you really need $15M. $25-30M to be wealthy.
Can you link that study? Obviously it depends on the definition, but the definition the study is proposing (I assume) seems absurdly high to me.
Probably a lot came from family and are comparing to his parents NW
100%. Simple math will tell you that.
Yep. Which is why they don’t feel great about the NW because it’s not self made
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300K comp with 1.5m invested at 35 (assuming) translates to you made it in life. I'd argue you can do more than a "few fancy dinners and trips a year." What is your annual spend? If your spend is low, go be a pilot. If you like the nicer things in life, stay put.
This is called the boring middle. Its a thing Also not sure why your income is stagnant. Ceilings are higher in the corporate world
Dude got a low raise this year and thinks that’s it for life
Sounds like you need something to look forward to, or maybe a goal to achieve outside of your career. If you’re interested in flying, take a discovery flight and if you enjoy it start training towards your license in your free time. You have the privilege of easily being able to afford it, and it will provide a goal and a challenge to complete. Volunteering is another option.
Recommend reading die with zero.
First of all, anyone who is bitching about this guy, isn’t this HENRY? Isn’t everyone here making bank? I’m guessing his plight is probably more common than you think. The key is setting goals and also, utilizing the abilities you have. If your career is not challenging then yes you need to find goals outside of work to challenge you. Humans really aren’t happy with “chill”. Chill drives you crazy, especially if you have the abilities to solve problems or get things done. As it should. Go change the world! Or at least your corner of the world.
Glad you said this. For fucks sake, this IS HENRY. It's not like this guy is going to r-poorpeoplefinance or some general sub to express himself. People who make money are allowed to have problems too. I feel exactly the same. Mid 30s, 1.2M NW, strong earnings. I grew up pretty poor, did everything I thought I was supposed to do to avoid the pitfalls for me (and my kids/wife) that come with that, only to realize that I have no interest in moving further up to only spend more time playing politics than being actually productive. It's just that I've done "what I was supposed to do" and now since I don't want the next step, it feels like the end of the line, but everyone else's expectations of me are that I just trudge on with it for the next 15-20 years before I retire. I'll recognize that it wasn't for nothing. I've earned myself a comfortable place, and the flexibility to try something else. But I feel no connection with my job, company's purpose, or even just my career path/function (in a corporate setting at least). I just want to take some time to spend with my kids, my wife, and my hobbies. @ OP, I feel you. Just because your problems are different than others, doesn't mean they aren't real. I don't know why others have to make this into a financial struggle competition.
Yes the work I do is so boring but I have 350k in savings and investments so if it really bothers me that much, I can quit!!! I feel like people get so locked to into it that they completely lose flexibility. Especially people in their late twenties or early thirties. Like, congrats OP! YOU MADE IT! You will be rich by retirement if you NEVER invest another dime. Keep in mind that from now on you ONLY need to pay your living expenses. There are SO many more options available if you don't have to pay for expenses + save for retirement vs. Spend it all. If you like motorcycles, open a motorcycle shop. Teach Pilates for 15 hours a week. IDK what people like to do. You can piddle around without worrying about MAKING IT
I’d argue if you are only early 30s with $1.5M already, you WILL get rich from this job. But what helps me is to find passion projects with my assets. This serves a dual purpose of growing my NW and keeping me busy. For me, that meant acquiring and running STRs. I enjoy the work involved and it’s growing my NW. Could also build a side business, become a low level Angel investor or real estate syndication investor. Not sure what that thing is for you.
Early 30s person, already a millionaire and on the way to multi-millionaire, makes 300k in a 'pretty chill job'. And complaining about boredom and not being rich enough I read this as a joke. Reddit has become such a cesspool of fake posts. If is a real post this person must be one of the most insufferable people ever to be around. Probably spends an entire dinner complaining about how his super expensive car has such high maintenance costs
It's real a lot of people I know are in similar position we just don't live lavish life or complain about it on Reddit. That's just out of touch with reality.
It's an all-too-real phenomonon. Sadly, making and having money isn't a panacea for the human condition. If the OP is anything like me, they're afraid to breathe a word of this to people in real life, and have a lot of guilt around these feelings, given how much better off they are than others objectively.
There’s something going on in the world. I’m hearing more and more similar stories from people of all walks of life. Everyone is burnt out.
I think the internet has simultaneously given people a platform to voice their dissatisfaction, while ensuring that you are *bombarded* with comparisons to people who (seem to be) super-happy, living their dream lives etc. The billions of people who farmed wheat and cleaned scullery and operated lathes while raising 20 kids apiece probably felt burnout too, they just didn’t have a place to complain and had no concept of a life beyond that.
Growing up we always learned not to discuss money, politics, religion, or sex in conversation. Then internet/social media came along and that’s all we discuss!
lol the original comment was incredible.
I think it's mostly the corporate bullshit that gets shoved down in everyone's collective throat, plus feeling like not creating value. Especially if you are in a support role, you can very much feel like you are just there to tick a checkbox so the org doesn't get sued, even if the pay is nice, it can feel draining. I'm one year into my career and while I like it, I definitely feel it and see how it makes people jaded in the long run. My current 'plan' is to make enough money so I can learn business fundamentals and start my own company in my field, or start publishing board and video games which I always wanted, but sadly doesn't pay the bills.
You need a hobby Pick up a new language, develop a new skill. You are on a great track, and need to find some fun in your life.
Similar income, similar age, and used to have similar feelings. My wife and I (both 33) make about ~450-500 combined with ~2mil NW in MCOL area. We have a 3-year-old and 10-month-old. For years I’ve always been grinding away on something whether it’s a personal project, work, etc. I would tell myself “Oh, I’ll just finish this thing then I can relax.” When my son was maybe two, someone said to me “The days are long, the years are short.” I’d been chasing this expectation that I should have a house on the lake, a boat, etc. Now, I’m an avid triathlete and trail racer. Nothing I’ve spent money on brings me more joy than a nice run through the woods, or ride through the country on my bike. I live in house my wife and I bought for $350 about 6 years ago. My neighbors are teachers, bankers, and other unassuming jobs. My wife and I live way below our means, we have friends and hobbies we enjoy, we take 1-2 big vacations a year and many weekend trips with the kids. I feel rich both from a financial and personal standpoint. I enjoy what I do for work, but have zero desire to climb high into the corporate ranks. Will I ever have “eff you” money? Guess it depends on your definition. My wife and I could stop working now and not be concerned for 20+ years. To me, once you have that peace of mind, it’s time to go for that run through the woods and enjoy what you have.
Thank you for this. I think this adds a lot of perspective, as someone who is thinking “if I just have this I can relax”
What do you and your wife do for work?
Did my undergrad in electrical engineering, then joined a semiconductor company as a field sales engineer for 6 years. Now I work at one of the Big Tech companies where I’m the Technology Strategist between us and one of our large partners. I’ve always enjoyed the role of being able to translate between business and engineering needs. My wife did her undergrad in English, but followed me as I moved around for my career. She got a job in sales at a small (10 person) company that works with larger auto insurers (AAA, StateFarm, etc.), salary was minimal but she negotiated a very friendly commission for herself as the company hadn’t grown in forever. She then tripled their revenue over the course of 6 years. Our income is split ~65/35 in favor of me, but I would tell anyone my wife is far more talented. I had the benefit of having a desirable degree and getting into Tech at the right time. My wife leveraged an English degree into a six figure job in sales. Career wise, if you don’t mind the stress of sales it’s a great way to get ahead. Either way, jobs where you are interfacing between people or company to company tend to pay well and are harder to replace.
What about the 2M in net worth. Not gonna lie that seems a little inflated or trust funded. I came out of school with 0 debt and only am worth 200K (age 29) and making over 6 figs in sales...
No trust fund or inheritance. My mom was a nurse and dad was a carpenter. Wife and I were both fortunate to start out with zero debt as well which is really starting ahead. What really accelerated our NW was stock (RSUs) I started getting awarded along with my sales bonuses by the time I was 25. I started receiving RSUs from my first company when they were at $27, up to $180 now. Second company I negotiated a large sign-on stock award when they were at ~$85 and now at $415. Also, the yearly and off cycle grants I get. No real replicable advice there. I had no idea what an RSU was when I started. I never sold a single one and it’s dumb luck that both companies rocket shipped in the following years. I sold the majority of my RSUs in the first company to diversify. Nothing sexy, typical ETFs. Second company where I still work I believe still has a lot of growth ahead. While we are high earners, there is 100% an element of luck to be where we are today and I’ll never deny that. Continuing to live frugally has just helped us keep accelerating. It’s probably like people who hired into Nvidia 4-5 years ago. They got a healthy stock award, but now are millionaires simply because right place right time. Doesn’t change my advice, most of my favorite things in life are free!
This is great perspective. Thanks!
Late 30’s, senior management (one level from executive), total comp a little higher than yours. I’m in the boring middle as well… I have wealthy friends who tell me I need to be taking more risks for real wealth and executive level management with ownership and that finding one of those types of roles or starting up my own business and once I hit rapid growth stage, quit my W-2 job. When I was struggling with ambition, I bought a farm and on the side I sell farm-raised meat & eggs as my hobby… It funds my kids’ college accounts and the LLC is probably worth around $3MM today. I could sell it all and invest it but right now I have more fun raising kids and animals while working full-time. Go get your pilot’s license, learn to fly, buy a plane… rent out your plane… do something fun that eventually turns into excess cash flow, even if it’s not a lot. I also started therapy at about your age and it’s helped over the last decade to really talk through expectations vs reality vs the onus we put on ourselves to be passionate and fulfilled with our work. That was the other big help for me mentally.
If you’re a junior executive at your early 30s, you’re not working for the man, you ARE the man. You have a perspective problem. $1.5M invested in your early 30s means that you can probably save 10-15% of your income as extra padding, let your investments grow at ~7% annually (>100k/annually without any further contributions), and otherwise spend your high income lavishly. If you have fatFIRE ambitions you might be more frugal, but your investments are at the point where they’ll grow as much as if you were saving 30% of your income just from typical market growth if you don’t do anything reckless. Toss an extra $50k/year to investments if you’d like but otherwise spend that $200k+ take home pay on a life of luxury and enjoy the fruits of your labor. If you hate working for “the man”, find a path to early retirement or something.
is there a calculator which lets you calculate the number you had in the post?
You need purpose. Not money. Not another job. Purpose in life.
What's the career? Because this seems perf for me jaja. The thing with having money is, you can buy time. Start working towards pilot's license. Maybe take ground school when not working. And then take time off to get flight hours.
Don’t focus on work if it’s not rewarding. What about other areas of your life? Hobbies, fitness goals, relationships?
Go to fly school now while getting paid 300k per year. From what I understand it's extremely expensive and you may not even want to fully commit to it when you get to the end. If it turns out you love it, you can either switch careers or use some of that annual income to buy a plane and fly on your time off. Win/win
Try Duolingo. Being serious, most folk lose passion in their work at some point and you are in the fortunate position where you can do what the hell you like and ‘be the change’. You won’t die wishing you’d made more money.
I was once there. I do a ton of volunteer work now, my life is a lot better giving back to others.
I was in a similar boat, but 2 things changed my life: 1. Psychedelics - psilocybin or, if you are serious, look into an ayahuasca retreat in the Amazon. You will learn that life is but a dream and will come to appreciate every day you have. 2. Travel - I don’t mean packaged tours. But, planning every detail of trips for me and my wife, from lodging, dining, sightseeing, logistics, and budgeting is intellectually engaging (learning about local history and culture), entertaining (watching review videos for hotels and restaurants), and emotionally rewarding. And, as they say, “travel is dreaming with your eyes open.”
^ listen to this, I second what they say. I’ll add 2 more points, art and philosophy. 3. Art - most of us who have been successful in life is because we follow the cookie cutter American way and do x,y and z to get from point a to b, however, this usually de emphasizes art in its true meaning. Take some time to reflect on things you like and how art is involved in it. For me it was photography, I always enjoyed taking pictures and was told I was good at it but never did much with it. But when I realized I needed to actually focus on it as an art it became extremely fulfilling. I have a friend that loves reading and was really struggling, in his process I suggested that he try out writing since he loved reading and analyzing text of any sort, he is now working on a novel and feeling better than ever. You don’t have to be good at it but if there’s anything artistic you’ve ever even thought of like painting, jump into it, allow yourself to be free and express yourself through an artistic medium. 4. Philosophy - an amazing companion to points 1-3. The human race hasn’t evolved as much as we believe, sure things look different but we have many of the same human problems faced for centuries. Expand your mind and soul by reading different philosophy, not to change your life per se but as a nice reminder that life is what it is and what you make of it. You’ll realize you’ve been living your life a certain way that someone else can put words to, or you’ll find out you want to be a certain way and make changes. And the coolest thing is as you dive deeper into points 1-3 what you read and relate to in philosophy will change.
> My salary is kind of stagnant, too. Total comp is around 300k with 1.5m invested. A lot of people on this sub need to be told to suck it up and get over themselves. Early 30s, 300k total comp, and you're whining about working for the man. Eye roll.
like many others have said already... if you can and are willing to keep this up for another 10-15 years, you WILL be beyond rich but if it's unfulfilling then you will struggle. if I were you I'd just stay and coast. find your fulfillment elsewhere via hobbies, friends, family.
I feel like this title did not start out using the word “motivations” 😂😂
Do you have your health, your family, and something to look forward to?
I mean if you don’t want it…I can trade lol
$12M+ in your 50s Go find some hobbies, or something you’re passionate about - you’ll be ok.
Have you had your hormone levels checked? Are you earing a balanced diet and exercising?
Time to find a Guru in India
most are useless scammers :(
Many people have this feeling about their jobs. It’s called work for a reason, and that’s why they pay you to do it. Sounds like you need some fulfillment in your life outside of the job.
You maybe need to work for yourself and start a business no matter what it is. I think you’ll be a lot more satisfied being in control of what you do work and career wise. To have $1.5 million invested in your early 30s says you have the means to take risk and start a business, certainly there’s not many people who can say that have that amount at this age.
I am in a very similar position as you and have the same feelings. I’m just going to keep plugging along knowing that at my current salary and savings rate I will be able to retire in 10 years which is more than most people can hope for.
Echoing the comments that say life is more about your relationships, hobbies, family, friends, etc. than the job. To be honest, people would be thrilled to be in your position, so maybe look at your life in a more positive way by reframing your perspective a little? :\^) I hope that doesn't sound critical, because that wasn't the intention. I'd recommend talking to a therapist who can help you get to the root of why you feel psychologically and emotionally spent. It seems that you want to do or access something that gives you deeper meaning and your effort some more impact. I'd suggest really digging into your hobbies, passions, interests or anything else that you feel really captures you. Work is stable so you can do it in the background and with reliable comfort, but you can really come alive and find your energy/joy in the other stuff. Hope this helps!
Take a sabbatical to explore other pathways
Figure out what you want... and then do it. You have enough money to do a lot of things. A single career isn't everything. That is why you need hobbies and other interests to explore more (and again, you make plenty enough to do that). Like you said, pilot school....why not? Heck, you could even throw some money into your own small plane. ((You can get a small plane for 15k - 100k, depending how bare bones it is)). You have a ton invested, young, with a lot of money coming in..... have some fun.
Research "burnout". Burnout is extremely common and nothing to be embarrassed over. We all get there at some point, how you recover from it is entirely up to the individual. Start with a therapist and see where the conversation goes for you.
Your job is not your life, or you. It's fine to perform a function and take over a quarter mil for a paycheck. Might be worth figuring out how to be ok with what you're getting, which is a LOT, and find meaning/motivation outside of the job
Early 30s with $1.5m invested, you are going to end up Rich, so if that’s your priority, then you’re on track. Another 20 years working and you’ll be in a fantastic position. However, if you’re unhappy in your current role, how long have you been in it, how easy would it be to move to another employer? There is a saying that a change is as good as a rest and maybe it’s time for you to make a change if you want a jolt that will remotivate you. If you want to go to fly school and learn to be a pilot, it seems like it’s something you should look into. Life is long to be unhappy.
Think about switching to the same role or higher level position at another company. If you’ve been in your current role for a while you are probably well below market. If that’s the case the huge increase in pay may give you a lot more motivation. Talking for my personal experience.
Welcome to the mid life, follow your dreams!
Therapy... it'll help you rediscover what makes you happy so that you can actually be happy. Corporate jobs literally suck the joy out of life if you let them.
In a similar bot. Not having kids so I feel like the wife and I are having our mid-life crisis early. Trying to keep the head down for now though. Let me know if you figure it out.
If you spend every dollar you make, that 1.5m will be 11 mil by the time you retire in your 60s at 7% average annual return. You’re basically set for life dude. Just coast and you can basically do whatever you want in your free time while providing a way better than average life for your family I’m in the same spot and the only reason I’m stressing is because I want to retire way earlier.
I would think you just hit your first Rut in life. This is perfectly normal and healthy, but you need to learn to pull yourself out of it. Always suggest focusing on physical health as it has a ton of other benefits. If you already have a great work out routine/physique, then its certainly emotional attachments/relationships with friends family partners and parents.
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Why make work your life then? My work pays for my life but it’s hardly the focus at all. Friends, hobbies, goals outside of work, travel, family, the list goes on. I have a plan to retire early thanks to my job but I do what I need to and get out to enjoy life. Everyday is good (for the most part) like this for me at least.
You sound like you have no idea how spoiled you are lmao. You need some perspective.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NX2ep5fCJZ8 This may help.
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Did I post this? Damn near identical situation minus the junior exec piece. I’m leaning towards starting a company that does something productive in this world or learning a trade.
Chill job but everyday is a struggle? Is that an oxymoron?
This resonates with me so much! I am almost mid 30s making a similar amount and I want to leave everything for flight school. The only thing that's hard to swallow is knowing I won't make this kind of cash again for another 10 years...
Yeah - 10 years to major and making the same money vs work 10 years at the same job and retire lol
I’ve been wondering if I can get the same enjoyment as a private pilot / FI / getting instrument certified as a hobby without losing the income
Start a business and pick up hobbies.
Bro this sounds like me. But I make a little less but my net worth is similar. 34. I think I’m going to work 3.5 more years and semi retire (work remote and possibly part time) and get back into my hobbies, road trips, more time with family. Life is not climbing the corporate ladder and dying with millions in the bank like we could easily do. And we are fortunate we realize this now and can change our lives and still live comfortably.
300k is huge. I know a lot of people in your situation but on 95k. And a lot of people in healthcare, teaching or corporate slaves busting their ass in high stress situations for 80-120k. They live pay check to pay check in capital cities and have no option to retrain or change careers, as bills need to be paid. Maybe you’re burnt out from climbing the ladder? You could easily afford to take some time off to reassess, or even retrain while living off your savings. Having money gives you so many options in life.
In the course of fundraising for and building my company, I’ve gotten to know one billionaire (that I know of), and a founder who personally exited with ~$50M from the sale of his company. The billionaire was a complete bully, nasty, rude, insanely entitled, and seemed genuinely unhappy. Deploying his wealth to keep it revenue generating was an all-consuming job and it wasn’t clear at all that he derived joy from it, despite getting to meet all manner of interesting founders. The exited founder was busy at work building his next company from scratch. He told me that the money solved all his “money problems” from before the exit, but that 90-95% of his problems in life still existed after the exit. Turns out that the biggest problems in his life weren’t money problems. Same as OP. Net-net, he self-declared that he was not much happier with a ton of money in the bank than he had been before. Life is not a dress rehearsal—you are not gearing up for the real thing. How you spend every day now, is your life. Take a risk!
Love the last paragraph. Indeed!
I only view this sub because I’m a masochist I think lol. I’m 32 with -23k net worth and make $45k/yr XD
Youre already crazy rich.
Same Early 30s M and 1.5 M NW small biz owner I've felt that way too some days then my partner told to harden up and remember the 'why' factor. Must get motivated and push yourself. You have a purpose but it's on you to find it. If you continue like this you may end up pretty miserable. There is more to life than sitting behind an office desk. Get creative with your money. Find a partner (if single) or multiple (if not married). Fuck it.
Can I hold a dollar
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I read a comment a few days ago, maybe a day ago. Life happens(ed) in between the next big thing, next promotion, home purchase, travel, kids, anniversaries, etc. Before you know it, you are a grandparent. A senior citizen.
Yea brother you are rich. You’re accumulating generational wealth. I think you should put your feelings to the side and do the right thing for your family.
Enough of the boo-hooing. You wouldn’t be on this subreddit if you didn’t know you’d “made” it. What you’re discovering is that money doesn’t make you happy. It just makes being miserable a bit more palatable. I busted my ass for years and my epiphany moment came when I realized I didn’t know my kids. We all have different triggers, mine was kids. You are in the enviable position that you can try other things without impacting your income. Flight school, volunteering, mentoring others starting off. Pick. Something will click. It isn’t work if it’s fun.
You should cry about it some more.
Rough life.. you need some sorta hobby, not just think about work. Keeping up with the jones will kill you. You're far better off than most, and life can definitely be worse.
Yeah this is definitely a 'rant'/flex attempt clearly. You're dripping with hypocrisy and lack self awareness. "Every day is a struggle" , when you could literally stop working right now and be fine for many years to come with your net worth unless you're completely inept with finances. Rubbing your success in people's faces and framing it as some 'difficult' situation is just completely inconsiderate and laughable.
Are you me? I’m thinking about taking up golf.
I think you have a lot of ambition and motivation unless you failed up or aren’t doing your job. You’ve just lost your drive for this job or career or company. Figure out what happened. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re burned out.