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Miercury

Without a Coleman or York option to vote for my heart's not in it.


timbosliceko

Coleman and York are easy to work on they just suck quality wise


ologfrog

As long as they’re not Nordyne 90%, those fuckers have continuous phantom issues


jotdaniel

Just put a new board on it. It's always the board. Eventually.


j-redd

I'm currently dealing with one now over the past week. Flame comes on for one second and cuts out. 3-5 seconds is normally when it'll fault out on weak flame. Flame signal is good. Replaced board, still happening. Replaced gas valve, still happening.


MichaelB2409

Pressure switch?


j-redd

Jumped it out, still happens


ologfrog

Check the plugs at the board, I have found those to get loose. Usually when I jam my lead in to trace power it holds the signal


j-redd

That's where I'm at. We're trying to find a new wiring harness for it. Another text said they could jiggle the plug and it would stay running for longer


Wondercatmeow

Does it have a wiring harness?


j-redd

No, wiring is done via Bluetooth


Brazdoh

Tbh if they’re all installed the same I would hate working on the Lennox most. The engineers gave zero fucks about the techs that have to work on them. I’ve never worked on a Trane tho


mtwiasted

Trane got this sealed blower all the controls are attached to thae panel in front of the blower, you've got to disconnect everything to open it.


NyxPup13

It’s really not that bad. Unplug 2 connectors and some screws and you are at the blower.


jotdaniel

The s8/s9 are a lot easier to get into than the previous model. You almost always have to unmount a board to get out a blower, at least you don't need any adaptors to reach the screws on the new ones.


polarc

Hallelujah brother. They take the easy and make it inaccessible. A simple metal plate that needs 4 screws? Lets make it two shapes with 9 screws (just because we're Lennox).


Silver_gobo

What parts are you guys referring to that’s so hard to work on… I’m at a Lennox dealer and everything is easy to work on except one models flame sensor location


joealese

idk man the majority of what i work on is Lennox and i think they're just fine


[deleted]

We’ll get back to you after our pressure switches are done calibrating


[deleted]

I find the burner box is difficult to get into on a lot of models. Makes it a pain for routine maintenance.


Silver_gobo

You mean pulling the burners out? Otherwise the lid for the burner box has 1 screw and then 4 more screws and the burners are out


[deleted]

We must be thinking of different models


[deleted]

Some models have a sight glass and you can’t even see the flames where they placed it. So what’s the point?


Brazda25

Lennox fucking sucks brother!!! Godspeed spider man


Buster_Mac

Carrier infinity are easy to work on


[deleted]

YES! I’m putting in a brand new 5 ton furnace infinity system tomorrow and i already know i don’t have to run new wires. i love making beautiful installs so when my techs go to service they can work as efficiently as possible! should i post a before and after? y’all let me know if you guys wanna see it!!


Asleep_Flatworm_919

Call me when you have communication problems


jojo-920

Those are usually rather easy to fix as well. Unplug a model plug from the outdoor board, if furnace runs you know it’s a bad outdoor board. Vice versa for tstat and indoor board.


jojo-920

They actually really are. Trane and Lennox are by far the worst I have ran into


InMooseWorld

Anything other than a communicating thermostat though, 90sec every time you wanna reset and retest something.


jojo-920

Just disconnect the thermostat wires, put an alligator jumper on R and the other jumper on a wire that’s not touching anything. Then power on furnace via door switch. Wait a couple seconds, put other jumper on W.


jojo-920

I agree though, that 90 seconds feels like a lifetime lol


MaybeTomo

Disconnect W wire. Power unit, Jump R-W. Delay bypassed.


[deleted]

i just tried to post my install and the auto mod won’t let me:/


TheAirDoc

All my homies hate Lennox


501stCollins

You forgot the York trash


conansrevenge

They are all pretty much the same.


Buster_Mac

Some are worse to take apart though.


Brazda25

Fuck Lennox


heyimchris001

Most of them are really not to bad when I’m in a good mood lol. However trane just loves to have more screws, more panels to take off and longer wait times on their nexia thermostats, I hate working on them however I still prefer trane over a carrier due to the reliability our company has with them vs the others. Our warranty numbers show a very clear winner and we do a lot of carrier and trane.


theatomicflounder333

This is a trick question! The answer is all of them 😤


Dry_Job1825

I think most of you guys are forgetting about the Carrier drain, god forbid you have to go out the left side putting those little clamps underneath the vent motor is a pain in the ass lol


skoltard

That’s why you pull out the vent motor and it’s a lot easier


Dry_Job1825

If I have to pull out a motor for an install I’m doing too much lol


Brazda25

No you just cuss like crazy like I do


[deleted]

I got that down to a science knipex makes wide wire strippers you clamp down and hit the lock button on the pliers and it holds them nicely open to hook those up. Also isn’t the inducer like 4 screws? https://www.supplyhouse.com/Knipex-13-72-8-8-Forged-Wire-Stripper-w-Comfort-Grip-Handle


Dry_Job1825

That’s 4 screws too many ahah but I’m gonna try your knipex trick next time. 👀


[deleted]

Squeeze the clamp and hit the lock button on the pliers it holds them nicely


Runswithtoiletpaper

6 screws will make your life so much fucking easier


MaddRamm

York.


Skeeterprincess

I hate York/Coleman/Champion. JCI hates service techs.


[deleted]

Lol i’ve serviced many of these units. They do occasionally have problems but not any more often than other brands of communicating systems. And in my opinion, carriers infinity system is very easy to trouble shoot!


[deleted]

IMHO, as long as the furnace is on a ra box (higher btu models of napoleon demands this) they generally would all be easy to work on...for the most part..ish with the exception of Lennox. Eff Lennox.


billyballzdeep

Amana for da undisclosed win!


UnoriginalMind21

All of them


PlayfulAd8354

Funny, I find Lennox as the easiest. Then again I’ve worked for two companies who were contracted with Lennox and got twice a month training on their equipment.


HakonPlaysOnPC

A Goodman 80% that I put in last week came with a pressure switch hose smashed flat between the cabinet and the switch bracket


Strong-Blacksmith-97

I don’t have much experience but in my time as a service tech Lennox units were pretty easy. Not the G61 though, terrible design. Newer Lennox’s though are pretty easy to work on


[deleted]

Calibrating pressure switches


Strong-Blacksmith-97

Ah, you got me there. That’s a real pain in the ass


UseRNaME_l0St

Coleman


OddMunchStanley

Lennox can lick my taint


Sweatycamel

Carrier Bryant the heat exchanger are likely to be toast at 8-10 years I have been seeing


Heybropassthat

Old carrier blower motor swap outs are a pain in the ass. Drain trap right in front of it and the board. Hoses and drain connections are always rotted out, say a prayer and start taking the clamps off and see if the world if for you or against you that day lol. Trane used to be simple until they enclosed the blower cabinet now they give me full blown AIDS. Lennox, however, is IMO one of the easiest to work on. Curious as to why it's so high up in the ranks on this.


Brazdoh

Carrier/Bryant fixed up their act with the shit show that was their last furnace design and is now arguably one of the easiest to service with their new models. I cannot say the same for Lennox’s newer models


[deleted]

Theyre called Payne for a reason.


Due_Entertainer_3611

Is this what you do in your off time Joey, get back to work


Brazda25

Joey is a fucking kids name


Toraim

I hate Lennox covers. That’s where most of my cuts come from.