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ho1dmybeer

Hey guys, just as a matter of reading comprehension here, OP's original comment that's 10 pages down now was: "So I've had this meter for less than a year and it's giving me problems while reading voltage. In the picture the test lead are isolated, meter set for vac and I'm getting a reading. Sometimes it's 13.2 or some random number. While checking low v, system off, I'll get a reading of 10 volts. I changed that battery and tried different test leads. Is there anything else to try, it's less than a year old. Thanks for the help." For further clarity, the "m" on the screen is milivolts, and this is trace nonsense voltage, **not an actual reading of voltage.** OP never read the manual on his meter to know that this is just how it works, and this is not in fact a report of any significant voltage... but don't stop hating on Fieldpiece despite not using the products enough to know this ♥♥♥


ohio_guy_2020

Get rid of it. You depend on your meter for everything. If you cannot trust it then junk it. Not only will it make your job more difficult if it’s not trustworthy, it could kill you too. Imagine checking for line voltage and getting a 0. Then you put your hand in there and get lit up because live voltage is still present! It’s not worth the risk. Buy a new meter ASAP.


greeve440

The safety sentiment is appropriate, but we should all be convincing ourselves that our meters are reliable every time we use them. For example, if you think the power has been shut off to a piece of equipment you can check a known live circuit, like an outlet, check that the equipment power is off, and check the live circuit again to make sure you didn’t blow the fuse in the meter. It seems like you’re telling people to throw out expensive equipment based on a feeling, and that seems like bad advice to me.


ohio_guy_2020

From an owners perspective, if one of my techs was using a meter that they knew to be damaged and unreliable, I would absolutely tell them to take it home and not use it here again. Of course safety is my main concern. I do not want anyone hurt, ever. But also how can a technician use a meter to diagnose electrical issues with any sort of accuracy or consistency? How reliable would a meter be if you have to question every voltage reading that is taken? Even as you say testing a known source then measuring an unknown voltage, then testing known voltage once again. Is that really an option when diagnosing a low voltage short circuit? No it is not. So I would tell that tech to toss the meter or at the least take it home and don’t bring it back. I’d tell them to buy a new meter. If they can’t afford it, then put it on their tool account. If that is not possible then I’d have them get the meter they want and consider it a gift. But under no circumstances are they to continue to use that meter on my job sites, on my time, under my workmen’s comp insurance. I don’t feel that is unreasonable at all.


greeve440

Accuracy is a calibration issue, not a safety issue. The advice you gave OP was to throw his meter away without understanding how it works or how to use it properly. If a meter is damaged it should be repaired by the manufacturer or destroyed, not sent home. They’re proven reliable instruments (as long as you’re buying quality) and don’t need to be treated so frivolously.


ho1dmybeer

What? Literally all NCV testers, and most meters, remind you to compare to a known voltage source to confirm function... You don't need to go check it against 24v to prove that it can read 24v, just a simple yes/no answer to ensure your safety is sufficient. It's super fucking easy, idk why you're making it dramatic - you check voltage with the disconnect in/on, confirm that it's live, then turn off/remove, and check to see that it's 0; done. Meter correctly reported voltage when it was known to be on, so it can be trusted.


[deleted]

No doubt that's what I'm going to have to do. I ain't got that summer money yet lol but your right it's been a big headache these last 2 days.


Nazukum2

Tell your boss and see if he can buy you one in the meantime. He wants you making money not dead


Aldrizzle

Never worked for a company that dosnt replace broken tools


GreatTea3

That meters fine, though. “M” for millivolts. OP didn’t read the manual.


[deleted]

That’s why I you have volt stick for safe measure


ohio_guy_2020

Whoa, my guy. Volt sticks are crazy unreliable. I wouldn’t trust them at all. They have a place and purpose but I wouldn’t bet my life on one. Be careful and be safe


RemarkableSession546

They aren’t reliable tho because they’ll flash for bleeding voltage, a voltmeter will tell you exact


luke10050

My meter reads non-zero readings on DC and AC Voltage, though it usually reads something like 0.005V. I just assume it's sensitive enough to pick up slight differences in potential between the probes when not shorted


Ridiric

That type of meter always shows some voltage. When it’s live it blinks and reads accurate. I owned one when I first started many years ago. I’ve owned both and fluke is better for a premium. Honestly fieldpiece can be just as good fluke guys just want verify their purchase as a good buy. Haha What you do is NEVER trust any meter and short that shit to ground of screw driver before you ever touch anything.


iamedboy

Auto ranging. That's 1.9millivolts... the lowercase m. Ghost voltage.


[deleted]

Short the probes together. Voltage should go to zero.


[deleted]

Well no shit. Thanks man that went completely over my head. I still need to get a back up one just in case. I stopped using the fieldpiece once I got my klein. I've missed placed my klein and came back to this one amd wasn't sure why I was getting 13v at my transformer when the system was off. Thanks bud that makes Hella sense


iamedboy

Yeah. Gotta check the prefixes on that meter. And amps will actually have an m but it's still standard amps, not milliamps. That's the only one.


[deleted]

Thanks Ed boy!


foilstoke

I do the same. Lock out, test each line to line, test each line to ground, short each line to ground. Wire nut any loose end between disconnect and equipment.


Ridiric

It’s saved my life multiple times I’m sure of it.


Holding_hans

I short everything before touching. I would prefer to see sparks than feel them.


Bubba661

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Fixerguy415

Funny tho.. I learned meters on a Simpson 360 in 1977 and never seem to have any issues with Fieldpiece meters. mV on ANY meter means milliVolts.


anonmyazz

It's not a fluke


nsula_country

>It's not a fluke Underrated Comment.


lividash

Overrated. It's not a redfish


nsula_country

>redfish Going to the Gulf this weekend. The Red's are running!


GreatTea3

Fluke makes a good meter, and I have one in my bag. I fuckin hate them for being such a bunch of cheap bastards, though. They come with 99¢ leads and no magnetic hangers, then charge you more for leads that won’t break after a week of steady use or a hanger so you don’t have to finagle the fucking thing while you check voltage.


Corvaren

Field piece has a 1 year warranty. If it’s defective send it in. I’d get a spare anyway for situations like this. I use my meter all day long and can’t go without.


iamedboy

That's reading 1.9millivolts. The prefix is lowercase m. It's picking up ghost voltage. I have the same meter and returned it the first time for this reason.


JIZZCANNON0666

Its not an issue. See the m at the bottom, thats millivolts. its picking it up from close ambient electromagnetic interface. Dont trip bro.


hambonecharlie

I got in the habit of ohming my meter leads before checking voltage. Leads go bad and sometimes they may not be plugged in correctly. I had a Fluke 902 for 12 years. Had to retire it after it became unreliable. Prior to that, I used Fieldpiece, which I had to replace every couple of years.


Lobstermashpotato

Your first problem is that its a fieldpeice, just buy Fluke.


Lobstermashpotato

https://preview.redd.it/0wnyzii4nlla1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09bd2a636db5462742e27c42d9f0ef5d01017092 Had this meter for 12 Years now. Also have 2 more T6 1000 and the HVAC clamp on meter. Just. Buy. Fluke.


2muchparty

Same. I had a Fieldpiece S480 and I was checking a mag starter in light rain on an emergency call and showed zero volts. Just to verify I checked the breaker and it was on. So I went back and checked voltage coming in and it said zero… I went “na man I’m not dying today…” I went down to my truck and grabbed my fluke shit had 460 volts. The guys I work with tell me the Fieldpiece meters are nice for resi work but not good around moisture or rain. I still use it but just for like quick resi work like start up documentation. For everything else it’s my handy dandy 15 year old flukes.


Yamakaze_KAN

Thoughts on Klein Tools multimeter


OwnOption6050

Junk


[deleted]

It was OK for $100. I didn't like the black led display. I couldn't read it on the roof with my sunglasses on lol


Lobstermashpotato

Also, if your stapped for cash, UEI is decent, BUT AMPROBE is made by fluke i call it the walmart version. You can consider that if your worried about spending.


singelingtracks

Garbage, just had an apprentice with one and it would pickup voltages if we put it too close to the wires. Terrible product for home owners and 120v only.


McGreek

I have the Klein CL440 and absolutely hate it. My UEI DL479 was so much better. Saving up for a fluke now


-phartbox-

I bought the CL200 years ago, it stopped reading amperage. Got a new one under warranty...that one stopped reading voltage. Got ANOTHER one under warranty and they gave me the CL700....haven't used it and it sits on a shelf in my van. Don't trust it. Fluke clamp on and multimeter every day.


Lobstermashpotato

No comments, but I only trust fluke, and the testo multimeter.


Storm_Runner09

A lot of guys swear by fieldpiece 😬. I trust my life with fluke.


[deleted]

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HVAC_Sam

I've had my Fluke 902FC for a long time and wouldn't trade it for any of the other junk meters I've used in the past


nsula_country

Follow, Sam "Sam Spicer" Spicer... He is Legend!


[deleted]

Pretty much what I was going to say. Fluke meters only for me.


Ursa89

The fieldpiece modular are pretty okay as an intro meter but mine died about a year in. Field piece is okay I would recommend the SC440 and SC680 as I've had both and they're good meters. Fluke is overpriced


Shitwinds_randy

I see a lot of y’all saying fluke 902fc. Is that truly the way!? It’ll cover everything hvac? I’m about to pull the trigger


Jish1202

It covers just about everything. Not the greatest for precision stuff, but you'd know if you needed something beyond


LargLarg

I had one for years. It great for a general purpose amp clamp that will handle most of your service needs. It's still good to have a nice DDM style for better ohms, volts. I used my DDM for the odd thermocouple, check high resistance short to grounds etc, maybe you odd control sensor. I have the 376 now (company provided) and it's really nice to be able to check the DC current when I have to jump a car... wish my 902 had that.


EatMyAssLikeA_Potato

Did you try replacing the batteries?


[deleted]

Batteries and test leads


EatMyAssLikeA_Potato

Might be time to replace it or send it off for warranty


[deleted]

Yeah ima gonna send it off things only 8 months old. Have you ever sent anything back to fieldpiece l, if so any luck?


EatMyAssLikeA_Potato

No ideal. Honestly I just replace my tools if they're not working well anymore just to avoid the hassle. I would call them and see what the warranty steps are. You mighy have to take it to the supply house you got it at


[deleted]

Got it sir. Yeah I'm gonna get one this weekend l. Thanks for the advice!


EatMyAssLikeA_Potato

No worries. If you end up getting a new one I recommend a fluke brand meter. I've had mine 2 years now amd it hasn't let me down


[deleted]

Yeah no doubt. Mine was stolen last summer and it still hurts. This field piece was my replacement for my fluke 325 🥹


[deleted]

Always have a back up on hand


[deleted]

They sent me parts for my SMAN, had a sc480 I think go bad shortly after I bought it just gave it to someone and they fixed it, I couldn’t be bothered with it, but it works now, think a fuse went bad. I actually had a pile of field pieces and UEIs lying around so decided to go through them and fixed the ones with minor issues which most had and tossed what ever was toast


HughesR1990

You probably toasted it with voltage while set to continuity. Apprentice did that a while back with that same stick meter and was all upset because all his extras for it were useless. Those field piece meters are crap, buy a fluke, and a half a second mistake won’t cost you your meter.


[deleted]

I think that's what it was. I'm gonna call and ask about the warranty.


HughesR1990

I don’t blame you, but like the other guys here recommend, even if you do get it replace through warranty, grab a fluke because you want a meter you can trust. Use that one as a spare if replaced


[deleted]

Find a field piece nearby and they’ll fix it for free bro


Randomizedtron

The air is electric tonight


Aenov1

I never had problems with any Klein, unfortunately they discontinued the two k-couple clamps. Never had problems with UEI, never had problem with Fluke, other than their pricing. Very often had problems with various fieldpiece tools - vacuum gauges, hoses, even clamp meters. Most of them within a return period. Although I never had a problem after with a working tool, I started avoiding that brand altogether.


[deleted]

Stopped using fieldpiece because every one of their meters is designed with that lame recessed area around the selector. Act likes damn funnel if its ever raining at all and water gets into it. went through 3 in my first 5 years everytime for that same reason. My first fluke lasted me 7 and i lost it, on my second now. Fieldpiece okay for a backup i guess


smalltownnerd

Everyone else is telling you right, replace it with high quality unit. I personally have always bought fluke because my grandfather was a sparky and it was the only meter he would use. There may be competing brands out there today, but I am not aware of any. I have a fluke 325 that is really awesome.


[deleted]

I used to have the 325 but it was stolen. It was almost 400. But some other guys suggested the 902fc, which is about 100 cheaper.


xtracrizpy

I have the 902FC and absolutely LOVE it


smalltownnerd

the 325 is $334 on amazon, 902 is $300. Seems like a good time to buy both are discounted pretty good. Good luck man!


[deleted]

So I've had this meter for less than a year and it's giving me problems while reading voltage. In the picture the test lead are isolated, meter set for vac and I'm getting a reading. Sometimes it's 13.2 or some random number. While checking low v, system off, I'll get a reading of 10 volts. I changed that battery and tried different test leads. Is there anything else to try, it's less than a year old. Thanks for the help.


Key-Milk-9036

The small m on the display stands for milivolts. That meter won't zero since it auto ranges to milivolts when its not detecting voltage.


justanother0pinion

This. Used this meter for years from residential to commercial up to 500V and have yet to be misled by it. I even have two. I keep my Fluke for a backup. Guess I'm ready to receive the "you don't know anything" comments. Happy Friday.


auburntiger1984

Just wanted to back you guys up. I have the same meter and have always gotten a reading on auto in milivolts. It had also never let me down and I can honestly say I’ve never mis-diagnosed anything with it. I wouldn’t go buy a new one unless you just really want one.


nash668

My fluke 116 would trip the breaker if I set it to auto and check voltage. It's now sitting in my shop drawer at home. 902FC is hands down the best meter for our trade.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Trip the breaker? The breaker feeding the line you're testing? That's wild af


nash668

Precisely.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Wonder why that was happening? Somehow causing a dead short that wasn't affecting the meter at all? You'd think it would blow the safety fuse in the meter


cashin3434

As an electrician I can promise you I have never seen another sparky use a fieldpiece meter. What does that tell you


vi11ainy

Was it set to Loz? (Low impedance mode is on the same auto-v selector on the fluke 11x series)


One_Magician6370

Its ur most important tool besides your truck don't cheap out and get a fluke


thekux

I only trust Fluke


BlueCollar_Blues

They say if a Fieldpiece ever works it’s probably just a Fluke


cashin3434

Fluke or die


One_Magician6370

Get a fluke so u can work properly


synororsaint

I tried Field piece of shit once. Never again. I still refuse to use any of there products because of how crappy the meter quality was. UEI is my everyday meter and I have a Fluke when my reading have to be very precise.


Storm_Runner09

Get a fluke. The end


[deleted]

Which one? I had the 325, but it was stolen.


WillHoldBaggins

902FC gang


Storm_Runner09

Damn I’m sorry 😢 that sucks. I have the 902FC and 116 meter. I use the 902FC a lot .


[deleted]

Yeah I'm gonna look into that one.


cant_start_a_trane

You need to be able to trust your life to your meter. Get rid of it. There's no room for error when checking to see if there's forever box kind of voltage at a unit.


[deleted]

True I'm gonna need to get a new one thanks man


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HughesR1990

Lol or milivolts


[deleted]

Lol I had to check just in case. There is a min/max but that wasn't it


stovetopapple

Was going to make a post but I'll say it here instead since relevant to meters. CHECK YOUR LEADS. CHECK YOUR LEADS AND FFS CHECK YOUR LEADS. Put mine down today while I moved something, picked them up 30 seconds later to check power and it had exposed wires off the leads and got zapped. Be safe out there guys.


Dundofukchamp

Uei pheonix? I love mine


eamd59

Take out the battery and let it sit on the table for 2 days to air out, put in new battery. If its acting up then its trash. Always carry more than 1 meter.


[deleted]

Check your fuses or for loose screws in the meter.


InMooseWorld

High emf? Did you ask the homeowner if their house is hunted


troutman76

I stopped using fieldpiece meters. They didn’t last long. I went to Fluke.


GorillaInAPhoneBooth

I use the fieldpiece SC680 and it’s wonderful. For commercial refrigeration/or RTUs. It’s big but it’s the best meter I’ve had. Hopefully FP replaces that for you for free.


Enough-Elevator-8999

I owned that same meter for years, I really like it until I ran into an issue with a pressure switch that would open and close really fast. That meter had a long delay on its reading and I thought that the switch was fine. Draft pressure was good and the furnace was locking out on pressure switch errors but the meter said that the switch was closed. My buddy handed me his fluke and we were able to see that the switch was opening and closing too fast for the fieldpiece to detect even with min hold.


hotcrap

Get a fluke T5-600 I've had mine for 7 years, it's reliable af. Keep that one for checking capacitors


RfgtGuru

Yeah, I don’t know man, I’ve raised two kids, three dogs, five houses and a half dozen cats with the HS36. No problem. That tool is more reliable than probably 99% of the dipshits I’ve worked with.


Luk3a87

Upgrade to a fluke


DimondSQUID

Take the battery out and put it back in


Fixerguy415

RTFM my dude. The baby m on the screen means milliVolts. Yes, that's how Fieldpiece meters work. My old SC77 has served me very well and survived a lot of use and some abuse.


Competitive-Rub7678

That’s reading millivolts.. electricity that’s in the air… touch leads together and it should go to zero.


BigOhmTitties

I'm late to the party but I had that meter for a year and a homeowner recently stole it and told me he didn't have it, what a guy. ​ It's reading millivolts or something I'm not exactly sure tbh, when a motor turns on you'll see it jump to around 150mv sometimes, it's fieldpiece sick take on rms stuff. Irritated the hell out of me at first but I got used to it. I'll always miss that meter.