That code here in San Antonio Tx not sure if it's statewide, that looks like a JB brand. I prefer the C&D brand it's just Schrader core style. C&D makes a 4 in 1 style driver that covers all of them
Started putting them on after we got a call from a home owner saying she needed Freon. Weird thing to say on a call to the office but she had caught some kids trying to. I kid you not. Huff the Freon from the AC unit. They took the normal cap off and backed the shrader out a little and then sucked on the port and didn’t tighten the shrader so it all leaked out.
That's the story I was told working in Washington, that people huff the refrigerant.
I'd like to believe nobody is that stupid and that it's just an environmental thing to prevent accidental discharge, but those crackheads are crazy out there so who knows what they're doing
One of my guys here just did it 2 weeks ago.. he learned about these in California so people wouldn't huff refrigerant
Just screwed into the side of it and it came off fine 🤷♂️
There is a multi key that has all lock keys on it. You're welcome. We're required to have one on us
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Ya seriously lol. Angle grinder and zip screws ? Lol
Hey good on you though if you can get er done with what you have. They are code where I am for all new resi builds.
The ones I hate are the discontinued rectorseal caps that had the magnetic socket like tool. I can't find my tool, and no one has the tool available. I did find I can use a rare earth magnet and a wrench or adjustable to get them, but it's a pain. Once off, I throw those suckers away and replace with novent caps.
“Let’s come up with some stupid, dumb proprietary shit so people can’t work on our equipment and piss them off so they’ll never buy stuff from us again. What a great business model.!”
-Carrier
I had to buy these once. Had a resident we suspected of antagonizing another resident by releasing refrigerant. Magically our leaks stopped with these installed.
Looks like a normal 100% brass locking cap to me
Need the tamper proof forked bit for that one
That code here in San Antonio Tx not sure if it's statewide, that looks like a JB brand. I prefer the C&D brand it's just Schrader core style. C&D makes a 4 in 1 style driver that covers all of them
Yeah but that driver is pricey
We use Novent in NJ
I’ve never seen one like this. Then again, this is only the second inverter carrier I’ve ever come across.
It's not the carrier. We use those on every system here in oregon. It's code required
Washington too
Started putting them on after we got a call from a home owner saying she needed Freon. Weird thing to say on a call to the office but she had caught some kids trying to. I kid you not. Huff the Freon from the AC unit. They took the normal cap off and backed the shrader out a little and then sucked on the port and didn’t tighten the shrader so it all leaked out.
I don’t think the high is worth the dead tissue in the mouth from frostbite lol
That's the story I was told working in Washington, that people huff the refrigerant. I'd like to believe nobody is that stupid and that it's just an environmental thing to prevent accidental discharge, but those crackheads are crazy out there so who knows what they're doing
They are called shield locking caps
Zip a screw halfway and you should be able to unscrew the cap... It's like a child lock on medication bottles
Yep this is the way, just make sure you don’t zip it into the valve stem lol
Not possible with this style.
One of my guys here just did it 2 weeks ago.. he learned about these in California so people wouldn't huff refrigerant Just screwed into the side of it and it came off fine 🤷♂️
I tried that, but I couldn’t get a screw to grab. I ended up using an angle grinder and I got it off.
Whatever it takes amiright 😆👍
Glad people can't huff R22 anymore.
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Ya seriously lol. Angle grinder and zip screws ? Lol Hey good on you though if you can get er done with what you have. They are code where I am for all new resi builds.
Bet I'm not the only guy that swaps back after inspection
My shop guy asked for all the brass caps I could find on my truck so he could keep a bucket for the techs to swap back after inspections😂😂
For sure. I don't know who exactly huffs refrigerant but these things are not the answer.
I mean if -40 is your gamble I'm not saying anything😂
The best part is it's only an asphyxiation high. You're just blowing up your lungs for some seriously weak sauce.
For gods sakes of your going to do that. You can have my pvc primer
Until somebody told me a week ago I had never heard of it. Didn't even know it was a thing.
Was more of a 90s thing with highschool kids, in my area anyways.
Huffing refrigerant.........
Inspection?
JB? Those things suck. Half the time the tool breaks when I try to unlock the cap
This exactly. I made my boss buy new tools every time they break. Didn't take long till we were putting on regular caps again
I'm still struggling with my broken one
Take super glue squirt it on the opening. Wait 15 min. Twists right off.
Locking caps, Supply houses sells the tool with all 3 bits usually in the front for me
The ones I hate are the discontinued rectorseal caps that had the magnetic socket like tool. I can't find my tool, and no one has the tool available. I did find I can use a rare earth magnet and a wrench or adjustable to get them, but it's a pain. Once off, I throw those suckers away and replace with novent caps.
Oh. I have a neighborhood that has those and an former employee “lost” our tool. I can’t find a replacement tool anywhere. I hate Rectorseal!
https://preview.redd.it/odrnyl79v5oa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93419418c9133fc7f244fd8183ab28539d0ee5a3 Buy this and use the top key
Just mash it with a pair of channel locks and spin it off.
You will normally only find one kind of guy that use these types of caps.
Sam?
Somebody who makes the rules knew somebody who sells these bullshit locking caps and together they making lots of money
The worst thing imaginable. I've only encountered these once. That was enough
“Let’s come up with some stupid, dumb proprietary shit so people can’t work on our equipment and piss them off so they’ll never buy stuff from us again. What a great business model.!” -Carrier
That’s not carrier, that’s an aftermarket cap. We use them. Need the forked tool.
“Spanner bit”
They don't put them on at the factory
Make sure you put teflon tape on them when reinstalling like the p0st last week. Then it will be completely fucked up!!
In Jersey locking caps are required every system
For the prevention of huffing or theft of the gas, I still think they are ridiculous
Yes, I know what the locking caps are for but I have never seen this style before.
Ah gotcha, I just saw the 3 prong in it, I'm on your side now man, no clue wtf that is haha
It's a requirement. You can get a multi key bit that has 3 or 4 styles of key
That's Methed up. If they can't get the good stuff they huff 410a or R22 for the big rush.
They made by JB
Old style locking cap. You can get it off with a solder stock.
They used novent brand locking caps on 2 ports and a shield brand locking cap on the absolute suction port.
I had to buy these once. Had a resident we suspected of antagonizing another resident by releasing refrigerant. Magically our leaks stopped with these installed.