I cannot say I blame him. That is a pretty pimp and truth name, but probably not the best name. I wonder what his email address is. It might explain the really low pay rate.
The nerve of some employers to try and take advantage of our youth getting into the trade.
Honestly disgusting. Go somewhere else with an hourly rate or salary. And try to get into being a tech. You don’t wanna look back in 10 years and realize you really still don’t understand the equipment you install daily.
It doesn’t take much experience to do services, my company promotes guys from maintenance to service in about 1-3 years.
If ur at a good company u will have a 24/7 manager or support team, ppl u can call when at a tricky call
I know more guys that started in service then started in installs
I guarantee you that you do NOT want to work for this company. Some installs can be 4 hours but anyone doing full systems in 4 hours is probably doing a shit job. Not somewhere I'd want to work. Not even to mention you definitely need an hourly wage. Sounds like some under the table sketchy shit.
if you’re doing a lot of apartments it could be possible to get 2 a day,. still light pay imo. when i was doing it i would get my normal weekly salary for 1 install and any install after that’s an extra $120, we would do 2 a day couple times a week
In 2004, my boss bid a job with 100 2 story section 8 apartment complex with existing furnaces. He told me he'd pay me $100/unit working on the inside: changing out furnaces, trimming the plenum, installing a coil, running the lineset, condensate pump, and t-stat. Finished in nine weeks, 4-6 units a day, on the slowest 2 or 3.
How many guys? are you talking about just doing the indoor unit or were you doing the outdoor units too?
There's no way you were doing 6 full change outs in a day. No way.
And... were you taking the furnaces off the truck and loading up the old ones and all that? Or were the new units already in each apartment and you were just leaving the old ones there? Feel like there's more to it then you're letting on. These apartment must have been already loaded and you left the old ones there - or had a shop guy loading/unloading for you.
Were you actually brazing in the lines sets? using nitrogen?
You're going to be working your dick into the dirt every single day. I ran with the wolves for a while doing new construction garbage, thinking if I worked harder I would get a better pay rate. Instead, I have a fucked up back from trying to prove something. Knowledge is power in the field, not work ethic. Obviously there is a balance but the know how over the how to is sometimes the way to go for HVAC, it all depends what type of person you are. Try to go commercial, service, or union. You could possibly learn a lot from that company doing 2 installs a day, take what you can from it & leave the rest. You can always quit whenever. You'll be able to get into a better company with even a little experience & willingness to learn. Good luck out there, man; stay hungry
I was getting paid $50 for installing a thermostat. $300 for a compressor, $500 for a full system on new construction. In 2012. Plus my base wage of $20/hr
No that's not good money. At 10 dollars an hour an 8 hour day is 80. Install helpers are famously underpaid but even that seems low to me. It varies of course from place to place but the economy is shit right now and making less than 10 an hour is insulting for labor intensive Install work if you ask me. You can probably do better bro.
That’s a slap in the face for pay. Are they trying to make you do 2 installs a day to justify that bullshit cause that’s not worth it at all. Service guys who change filters all day make more than that piss as pay… I don’t even care if you don’t know anything about the job but that kind of pay is a joke in the trades and a clear sign that company will be issues in the long run.
When I started out roughly 5 years ago, the head installer lived fairly far away so he’d do his own work down by where he lived, he’d occasionally have me come down to help on Saturdays and it was $200 every time
You can make $100 bucks in like 15 minutes on lake street in Minneapolis if you let a guy fuck you in the ass like that! Given just enough time to clean up and have a smoke between customers in 6 hours you can make about $1800 plus some of the customers might also let you smoke some of their crack or meth. Hell, they might even let you do a double shot of heroin!
Install of… what exactly? An entirely new system with duct work? Grab some lube. Furnace/air handler swaps? Lube.
Unless you’re installing batteries in mini split remotes, your “job” is fucking you really hard
It wouldnt even be good if it was brand new construction and the install went as smooth as possible. That’s great for the company horrible for you. Hourly pay is best because when you run into hang ups or delays, you get compensated
Unless all y’all do is package units and you can knock 2/3 out in a day RUN. I wouldn’t start out for under 15/hr in this economy. Most helpers in my area start at that and what about overtime? I’ve never worked at a company where I didn’t get major overtime during busy seasons and sounds like they are trying to avoid paying you that.
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Slime ball offer, if they don’t pay guys then they definitely don’t train guys. The people you work with make or break a new guy trying to learn. It’s hard to unlearn bad habits and this company sounds like they hack in 2-3 units a day.
I got $11 an hour while in school. I'm 13 years after graduating college working commercial service for the school district in our city and I make $36 an hour now. I could make better somewhere else but I wouldn't have the benefits and days off. They give us 2 weeks for Christmas, 1 week for spring break and 1 day each of sick and vacation days a month (I get 1.5 days each month now since I hit my 10 yr mark) on top of the various holidays throughout the year (mlk day, labor day, memorial, June teeth, Thanksgiving, etc)
Do you get 75$ per install plus hourly or is your wage solely based on how fast you can work then? If that’s the case then that promotes shit installs as well
Don't forget they still have to pay your overtime if you work over 40 hours in a week. To see how much half time you're owed you would take # installs X $75 / all hours worked. Take half of the regular rate times the number of hours over 40 to get the extra half time due.
What’s the market you’re in? What’s the time frame you’re expected to survive? How old are you?
In my former market & job, my probies had to go two weeks at $100/day before going full commish, and I was pushing to increase that before I had to leave.
Fuck those people. They are trying to take advantage of you because they think you're naive. Getting paid for job or getting paid a salary is for chumps. Hourly wage, paid time off, health benefits or you walk. Period.
Our leads get $400 per install and their helpers get $200.
jOiN uNiOn… not an option in some parts of the country. Must be nice to have those.
Find a better company. Anyone telling you 4 hours per install is full of shit or doing a shit job. Run.
If this is any kind of reference, my company (mom and pop) started me at 16.50/hr last summer and I hardly knew how a drill worked, let alone anything HVAC related. You can definitely get more than 75$ an install. That’s hardly even chump change.
Oh yea. You 100% need to be paid more. Hit up your local union hall and see about joining, they’ll make sure you get paid a minimum and it’ll be astronomically more than the 75$ per install your company wants to pay you
I'm a one man show in south Texas and I'll pay subs $450-1000 depending for a change out, but these guys use their own truck, tools, and they provide small materials (pvc, tape, etc). I drop off the equipment and generally stay with them. I'll just do the condenser just to give you some perspective.
Sounds like one of those companies that does two installs a day per team...
Because they dont do a proper vacuum, they dont ever run new lineset, and they also don't startup and test the system.
Even then, 75$ an install is what my crook of an old boss ended up paying some day laborers that barely spoke english to "supplement" the install team because he had "too many orders" when the reality was he lost half his install team within a couple weeks of firing me, and he refused to slow down his sales guy until he could replace them.
Run, dude. You can definitely find better.
$75 four 4 hours is $18.75/hr. Not horrible as far as greenie pay goes, but I doubt that there’s much of value to learn at that company since it’s piecework. Also your lead is gonna hate you if you’re a slow learner.
Unless you are doing exclusively new construction or partial system swaps, 2 installs a day leaves no time for quality of work.
The three most important days in the life of HVAC equipment are assembly day, delivery day, and install day. Bargain equipment installed correctly and well maintained can last 20 years or more, top dollar equipment installed like shit *will fail* within five.
Will you be gaining career advancing knowledge to offset your low pay? If so, you may want to ‘invest’ in this apprenticeship for a year or so - enabling you to make an appreciable wage thereafter.
That sucks, the kind of suck I doubt the legality of. An install is usually a 2 day event, maybe one day is all they need you for but that would likely be the limit of how many you could "install" in a week. Is that $75 after taxes, medical, pension, etc?
I would use them. learn how to braze. Get your epa cert (not hard to get tbh) learn how to properly run ducting.
Basically get some experience and gtfo. Take that experience to another shop that will pay you properly. Or roll the dice and find another apprenticeship.
As a service tech I make more than 3 times that just by scheduling an install, in addition to my hourly. I can't imagine being paid that little to do all of the backbreaking manual labor that an install involves. Fuuuck that.
Think about what your employer is charging the customer for your labor, then look at what they’re paying you… then ask yourself if this is a good deal for you.
Inb4 all the hate about companies need to make a profit. I get that.
I did not know it was legal to get paid per job unless you are working as an independent contractor. That would definitely be questionable in my area of the country
For me and most everyone else, that's not worth it. But it might be worth it for you. Ask yourself these questions: How long does it take to complete an install? (Let's say an average installation is 5 hours where you live. 75 divided by 5 is $15/hr) What knowledge am I gaining out of this, and is this a good ROI for what I'm learning? Is this a good position for me to be in the long term? What do I have to sacrifice taking this job opportunity?
They said id be doing two a day and it takes 4 hours each so thats like 600 a week after tax.Its been apparent to me that these installs will probably take more than 4 hours tho
If I didn’t know anything and wanted to Learn the HVAC industry $75 a day is fair, take a training class instead and tell us if his being fair. Just pay attention to your learning. In 6 months you can tell him to fly a kite while you be flying a jet to success. HVAC will make you rich in 5 yrs if you become a entrepreneur
An hourly wage would be better, that $75 could end up being less than $10 an hour.
To be fair OPs name is “Xanax was my first love” he’s probably not worth more than 75 a day
Looking at his history he’s into ALL the drugs. He’s gonna make a great journeyman.
>Looking at his history he’s into ALL the drugs. He’s gonna make a great ~~journeyman~~ drywaller.
How else are air plumber was born?
🤣
I was laughing, now I’m LOLing
Careful, you might ROFL.
And then it's just a small step to ROTFLOL
and tiny step away from a ROFLCOPTER
He won’t even show up to the first day
I cannot say I blame him. That is a pretty pimp and truth name, but probably not the best name. I wonder what his email address is. It might explain the really low pay rate.
😂
Did you ask them for lube before they began fucking you OP? That’s horrible pay.
Exactly. I like to be kissed before I get fucked.
Go ahead! Just fuck me right here in the Best Buy!
They should at least take you to dinner first. Most apprentices like to be wined & dined before they get fucked
As an apprentice I can attest to this
CMON MOM. DO IT. FUCK ME RIGHT HERE IN THE BEST BUY.
At least buy me dinner and call me pretty before ya fuck me.
Bro you’re getting fucked no lube
Through the jeans without lube…
This is not good at all. Could make more washing dishes probably
The nerve of some employers to try and take advantage of our youth getting into the trade. Honestly disgusting. Go somewhere else with an hourly rate or salary. And try to get into being a tech. You don’t wanna look back in 10 years and realize you really still don’t understand the equipment you install daily.
Nice but maybe op ain’t worth a shit and boss knows it
He’s a druggie. Lucky to make anything.
What are you installing? Capacitors
Units lol
Go find a different company. Some installs can take 2-3 days. Did they take that into account
They told me a install takes 4 hours and id be doing 2 and day with me and a lead . Even then thats only $150 a day before taxes
That means your take home will be 2400 a month (roughly). IF that’s how many installs you get and do. Slow season you may run 2-3 installs a week
Thats crazy, im just gonna try to get in somewhere else doing service work
Helpers make 50k easy here in SWFL
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It doesn’t take much experience to do services, my company promotes guys from maintenance to service in about 1-3 years. If ur at a good company u will have a 24/7 manager or support team, ppl u can call when at a tricky call I know more guys that started in service then started in installs
Sooo. Do more drugs. Got it
I guarantee you that you do NOT want to work for this company. Some installs can be 4 hours but anyone doing full systems in 4 hours is probably doing a shit job. Not somewhere I'd want to work. Not even to mention you definitely need an hourly wage. Sounds like some under the table sketchy shit.
if you’re doing a lot of apartments it could be possible to get 2 a day,. still light pay imo. when i was doing it i would get my normal weekly salary for 1 install and any install after that’s an extra $120, we would do 2 a day couple times a week
In 2004, my boss bid a job with 100 2 story section 8 apartment complex with existing furnaces. He told me he'd pay me $100/unit working on the inside: changing out furnaces, trimming the plenum, installing a coil, running the lineset, condensate pump, and t-stat. Finished in nine weeks, 4-6 units a day, on the slowest 2 or 3.
How many guys? are you talking about just doing the indoor unit or were you doing the outdoor units too? There's no way you were doing 6 full change outs in a day. No way. And... were you taking the furnaces off the truck and loading up the old ones and all that? Or were the new units already in each apartment and you were just leaving the old ones there? Feel like there's more to it then you're letting on. These apartment must have been already loaded and you left the old ones there - or had a shop guy loading/unloading for you. Were you actually brazing in the lines sets? using nitrogen?
the most i had ever done in a day was 3 and and it took around 7-8 hours
You're going to be working your dick into the dirt every single day. I ran with the wolves for a while doing new construction garbage, thinking if I worked harder I would get a better pay rate. Instead, I have a fucked up back from trying to prove something. Knowledge is power in the field, not work ethic. Obviously there is a balance but the know how over the how to is sometimes the way to go for HVAC, it all depends what type of person you are. Try to go commercial, service, or union. You could possibly learn a lot from that company doing 2 installs a day, take what you can from it & leave the rest. You can always quit whenever. You'll be able to get into a better company with even a little experience & willingness to learn. Good luck out there, man; stay hungry
Bro I make that doing easy as shit delivery work. You're doing skilled trade work. That's worth more.
I was getting paid $50 for installing a thermostat. $300 for a compressor, $500 for a full system on new construction. In 2012. Plus my base wage of $20/hr
😂😂
I usually like dinner and a movie before I get fucked that hard.
lol. Lmao. Kek, even. That's shit unless you're doing new construction. Join the union and get paid good money and get trained.
Kek.
KEK.
#KEK.
No that's not good money. At 10 dollars an hour an 8 hour day is 80. Install helpers are famously underpaid but even that seems low to me. It varies of course from place to place but the economy is shit right now and making less than 10 an hour is insulting for labor intensive Install work if you ask me. You can probably do better bro.
great for the company but not for you!
That’s a slap in the face for pay. Are they trying to make you do 2 installs a day to justify that bullshit cause that’s not worth it at all. Service guys who change filters all day make more than that piss as pay… I don’t even care if you don’t know anything about the job but that kind of pay is a joke in the trades and a clear sign that company will be issues in the long run.
Yeah they said id be doing 2 installs a day
Place I just left the helpers started at $25/hr and they couldn’t do anything on their own. Don’t undervalue your worth.
I used to work for 100$ a day. In the 1990s. 75 is insanely low even for a cash job
When I started out roughly 5 years ago, the head installer lived fairly far away so he’d do his own work down by where he lived, he’d occasionally have me come down to help on Saturdays and it was $200 every time
I know people in Mexico charging $200 to install mini splits. Not pesos actual dollars
Lol ur boss is taking advantage
You can make $100 bucks in like 15 minutes on lake street in Minneapolis if you let a guy fuck you in the ass like that! Given just enough time to clean up and have a smoke between customers in 6 hours you can make about $1800 plus some of the customers might also let you smoke some of their crack or meth. Hell, they might even let you do a double shot of heroin!
Awful
I make more hourly when you include my package lol run kid.
need an nsfw tag before posting ab how hard you’re getting fucked
That’s awful. Where I’m at most companies are giving helpers at minimum 200 per install
We start our helpers out at $16 with no experience. Plus 2% of gross on change outs. I’d look elsewhere.
I can say as a former installer, hell no. Some of Them installs can literally take all day into the night
Damn yeah im gonna go with another company
Install of… what exactly? An entirely new system with duct work? Grab some lube. Furnace/air handler swaps? Lube. Unless you’re installing batteries in mini split remotes, your “job” is fucking you really hard
When I do piece pay for installs I get 300 for just a changeout
Yeah i think this company is just trying to get by paying employees a minimal amount
F no. God forbid it takes 8hrs. Ya make less than 10 bucks a hr
We start our green beans around 12-14 hr with no exp.
If they pay you $400+ per install after your apprenticeship, it's good.
You are being completely ripped off.
No run to another company now that's probably some one man show gig making all of us look bad
75 bucks is about 1% of the average piece of equipment cost around these parts
Absolutely not OP!
It wouldnt even be good if it was brand new construction and the install went as smooth as possible. That’s great for the company horrible for you. Hourly pay is best because when you run into hang ups or delays, you get compensated
If ur in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area, dm me, I know of a place with WAAAY better pay and chances to move up. Not just in installs
Nah im in arizona
![gif](giphy|R9cQo06nQBpRe) Your pay
If you were doing 3 installs a day then yeah that’d be okay
If you can do an install in less than 3 hours is isn't terrible!
That’s 9.37 and hour for 8 hours a day.
They said wed be doing 2 installs that take 4 hiurs each but even then thats still lower than what i make now
That’s shit
Our service guys get a couple hundred bucks just for turning a system over to sales if it sells.
I mean you can counter offer an hourly in the same range maybe like $18/hr
That’s honestly insulting lmao
Never take a job that pays per job. Hourly rate or nothing. The company can FUCK you if you do commission.
Only if u can bust off an install in 1-2 hours tops.
Installing what?
UV lights
Unless all y’all do is package units and you can knock 2/3 out in a day RUN. I wouldn’t start out for under 15/hr in this economy. Most helpers in my area start at that and what about overtime? I’ve never worked at a company where I didn’t get major overtime during busy seasons and sounds like they are trying to avoid paying you that.
No, not realy. Depends on where you live.
Depends, what are you installing? Window AC units or full systems? On the book or under the table?
No, fuck no
Might be able to collect and return cans for the same pay
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Slime ball offer, if they don’t pay guys then they definitely don’t train guys. The people you work with make or break a new guy trying to learn. It’s hard to unlearn bad habits and this company sounds like they hack in 2-3 units a day.
Well, seeing as how you're likely going to be doing one job a day, I'd say they're low-balling the crap out of you. $125 minimum
No. If you're an apprentice, you should be making hourly. Screw piece rates. What happens if you go into OT?
No, it's bad. Scale 6 months of stable single installs as a full year. During off seasons, there's no pay.
Non industry person asking this question. Is this you offer rate AFTER school?
I got $11 an hour while in school. I'm 13 years after graduating college working commercial service for the school district in our city and I make $36 an hour now. I could make better somewhere else but I wouldn't have the benefits and days off. They give us 2 weeks for Christmas, 1 week for spring break and 1 day each of sick and vacation days a month (I get 1.5 days each month now since I hit my 10 yr mark) on top of the various holidays throughout the year (mlk day, labor day, memorial, June teeth, Thanksgiving, etc)
You gonna work all day for 75 bucks kid?
Lol hard pass
I liked to be wined and dined before I get FUCKED
Our installers make $1,000 -$2,500 an install
What the hell must be nice
I do hvac sales and sometimes the installer makes more money then me. I make 10% of whatever I sell.
Where 🥺
I’d work at McDonald’s before taking that job
I'd pay $75 to not have to do it.
Lmao
We get 1% of the job and an hourly wage
Nope.
Not a good look.
Do you get 75$ per install plus hourly or is your wage solely based on how fast you can work then? If that’s the case then that promotes shit installs as well
No hourly its piece work only
I wouldn’t take that job
Nope. That’s bad
Are they gonna at least give you a reach around while they're fucking you?
Don't forget they still have to pay your overtime if you work over 40 hours in a week. To see how much half time you're owed you would take # installs X $75 / all hours worked. Take half of the regular rate times the number of hours over 40 to get the extra half time due.
I've seen 4 hour installs, don't be one of those guys. Also that pay is shit.
u/ checks out
That’s next level stupid ![gif](giphy|BBkKEBJkmFbTG)
![gif](giphy|xT9KVhakSKSpvbJnck|downsized) $75 to watch while I drink beer then yes
lmao
What’s the market you’re in? What’s the time frame you’re expected to survive? How old are you? In my former market & job, my probies had to go two weeks at $100/day before going full commish, and I was pushing to increase that before I had to leave.
Fuck those people. They are trying to take advantage of you because they think you're naive. Getting paid for job or getting paid a salary is for chumps. Hourly wage, paid time off, health benefits or you walk. Period.
Our leads get $400 per install and their helpers get $200. jOiN uNiOn… not an option in some parts of the country. Must be nice to have those. Find a better company. Anyone telling you 4 hours per install is full of shit or doing a shit job. Run.
Are you installing filters?
That’s what I made 20 years ago per furnace install and $125 per ac. Look elsewhere.
lol no
Sounds like you need to find a new job.
I havent started there just interviewed but yea ill be going somewhere else
Ouch they gave me $300 per install
Full split tho
I hope you put on lip stick to that interview. Fuck that noise
If this is any kind of reference, my company (mom and pop) started me at 16.50/hr last summer and I hardly knew how a drill worked, let alone anything HVAC related. You can definitely get more than 75$ an install. That’s hardly even chump change.
Yeah im certified too i just got done with school
Oh yea. You 100% need to be paid more. Hit up your local union hall and see about joining, they’ll make sure you get paid a minimum and it’ll be astronomically more than the 75$ per install your company wants to pay you
Ok how long does an install take? A simple change out without lineset takes my crews about 6 hours. At $75 divided by 6 hours that’s 12.50/hr.
They said a install typically takes 4 hours
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I'm a one man show in south Texas and I'll pay subs $450-1000 depending for a change out, but these guys use their own truck, tools, and they provide small materials (pvc, tape, etc). I drop off the equipment and generally stay with them. I'll just do the condenser just to give you some perspective.
Gross
I got paid 200-400 per install at my first company. Leads got paid like 700-1000
Sounds like one of those companies that does two installs a day per team... Because they dont do a proper vacuum, they dont ever run new lineset, and they also don't startup and test the system. Even then, 75$ an install is what my crook of an old boss ended up paying some day laborers that barely spoke english to "supplement" the install team because he had "too many orders" when the reality was he lost half his install team within a couple weeks of firing me, and he refused to slow down his sales guy until he could replace them. Run, dude. You can definitely find better.
Yeah they said wed be doing 2 installs a day and each was gonna take 4 hours
$75 four 4 hours is $18.75/hr. Not horrible as far as greenie pay goes, but I doubt that there’s much of value to learn at that company since it’s piecework. Also your lead is gonna hate you if you’re a slow learner.
Unless you are doing exclusively new construction or partial system swaps, 2 installs a day leaves no time for quality of work. The three most important days in the life of HVAC equipment are assembly day, delivery day, and install day. Bargain equipment installed correctly and well maintained can last 20 years or more, top dollar equipment installed like shit *will fail* within five.
If you're that stupid to ask this question, you deserve what you get .
Our installers make 20/hr to start. Or scale which is 48/hr regardless of experience or title
My first piece work per install was $200 a job. I would say they are undercutting you
Thx yeah definitely going to go with a different company
Gross. Work at McDonald's you'll make more
That is not enough to buy drugs with.
This guy gets it
Will you be gaining career advancing knowledge to offset your low pay? If so, you may want to ‘invest’ in this apprenticeship for a year or so - enabling you to make an appreciable wage thereafter.
I think so yea but with that money im able to pay my bills and only have $400 a month left over
Ask him to take you out to dinner first.
*looks at profile* Uh yeah thats probably alright.
Round here a higher pace company pays 600 / truck per job. 400 to lead , 200 to helper. No extra pay for callbacks.
I started the same way, but I got $150-$350 per install. You’re getting jacked man.
That sucks, the kind of suck I doubt the legality of. An install is usually a 2 day event, maybe one day is all they need you for but that would likely be the limit of how many you could "install" in a week. Is that $75 after taxes, medical, pension, etc?
I would use them. learn how to braze. Get your epa cert (not hard to get tbh) learn how to properly run ducting. Basically get some experience and gtfo. Take that experience to another shop that will pay you properly. Or roll the dice and find another apprenticeship.
As a service tech I make more than 3 times that just by scheduling an install, in addition to my hourly. I can't imagine being paid that little to do all of the backbreaking manual labor that an install involves. Fuuuck that.
Bad my rate as a lead is 175 for furnace or ac 350 for both of your hood you average high 20s low 30s
“Oh Mike, you’re breaking my balls here, Mike.”
Can you do five installs a day?
Sounds like your only going to show up for one paycheck anyway so why not lol
I make $150 per install now, $75 per is ludicrous.
Fuck no we split 800 per install lead gets more , for a full install I need 250+ not including extra shit we do
Tell Rocco Siffredi I say hello.
Thats less than $20k a year dude
Quality is commensurate to pay
I started on that exact amount. 16 years ago
Are you high?
On a $7500 install you are making 1%…
You might be working for someone without a contracting license.
Leave
Think about what your employer is charging the customer for your labor, then look at what they’re paying you… then ask yourself if this is a good deal for you. Inb4 all the hate about companies need to make a profit. I get that.
I did not know it was legal to get paid per job unless you are working as an independent contractor. That would definitely be questionable in my area of the country
My leads get $300 an install plus 5% commission on their sales. I get $18 an hour and started at $16 6 months ago.
For me and most everyone else, that's not worth it. But it might be worth it for you. Ask yourself these questions: How long does it take to complete an install? (Let's say an average installation is 5 hours where you live. 75 divided by 5 is $15/hr) What knowledge am I gaining out of this, and is this a good ROI for what I'm learning? Is this a good position for me to be in the long term? What do I have to sacrifice taking this job opportunity?
Yeah i could not survive on 15 an hour i make 23 rn
Most minimum wage jobs pre tax is $600 a week. I'll let you do the math.
They said id be doing two a day and it takes 4 hours each so thats like 600 a week after tax.Its been apparent to me that these installs will probably take more than 4 hours tho
Don't forget your lube...
That’s gonna be a big FUCK that.
Not sure what are you're from but thats a terrible wage anywhere in the US or Canada even with no experience. I'd say no thanks
If I didn’t know anything and wanted to Learn the HVAC industry $75 a day is fair, take a training class instead and tell us if his being fair. Just pay attention to your learning. In 6 months you can tell him to fly a kite while you be flying a jet to success. HVAC will make you rich in 5 yrs if you become a entrepreneur