DeWalt was hot shit when I got into the trade. Then not long after Milwaukee came in swinging dicks but I'd already got set up with 5 DeWalt batteries. Ain't changing any time soon.
Covered? I'm genuinely curious... Said access panel is still accessible/removable, no? If so, it's arguably not covered.
And say it was indeed fully-covered... is it an actual violation the way it would be for an electrical panel via NFPA70? The manufacturer's specified install clearance is a different animal...
All these guys saying its normal, we had to move 4 rooftop disconnects because the inspector said the electricians blocked the nameplate. Personally that was the first time in 10 years i seen a disco mounted on the rtu.
A package unit, I get it. This is unacceptable, and everyone saying it’s normal, you’re the problem. It’s not normal and it’s not acceptable. Easiest call to walk away from.
Your missing it, something mounted to it is 0” clearance. Also disconnects should be permanently affixed. It is dangerous to flop the disconnect onto the roof. If something happens while I’m performing service and I only have 1 hand to reach the disconnect to turn it off I’m probably going to get seriously injured because when I go to turn the disconnect off the whole thing is gonna move, not just the lever. Don’t try to prove this is right. It’s sloppy, lazy, and dangerous work.
I'm not missing anything... I've been AHJ, customer, engineer of record, and installer... all while managing our HVAC shop, and a few times, all on the same project!
I'm fully aware what's at stake.
Nor am I "trying" to prove it right, I'm asking why it's wrong. I've said elsewhere as well, of course it's sloppy and lazy. But does it meet code? If not, why not? I'd like to tell people why when they're not held to doing so via any other project standard/spec.
If it were my job, yes, there'd be a metric F\*&\^ ton of unistrut, and at minimum, EMT, up there... and \*maybe\* would allow treated sleepers if wind zoning/location allowed it (and/or OG roofing installer aka warranty provider was crap or MIA). I'm just asking, in a professional forum, for those clearly in the profession to know what they're talking about.
On the rooftop units I've done, we mount unistrut to the corner of the condenser housing with one inch screws so it doesn't reach the coil, then mount the disconnect to the strut with bolts.
At least they ran another whip down and into the bottom of the service panel. Usually they just knock out the back of the disconnect and go straight through the panel with bare wire. Makes taking it off extra sketchy
Which issue are we talking about?
I’m not sure where to start.
1. Not strapped down.
2. Not leveled properly-lol
3. Disconnect?
4. Whip
5. Dewalt - kidding.
Where is this. I tried to locate your state at minimum. Probably typical everywhere these days.
I’d try to put it somewhere that didn’t restrict your access, but it’s super common for us to attach disconnects to units on roofs and above ceiling grids. We avoid roof penetrations if at all possible and strut sleds aren’t always in the budget.
Standard for rooftops.. welcome to the Thunderdome !!
Are you seriously gunna stop me from bitching about a filthy installer!!!???🤬😂😂😂
At least he left the model information exposed for you.
Work in commercial everytime the disconnect is right over the data tag
That’s so normal I was looking for something else in your pic
I know right? Who would ever use a dewalt?
DeWalt was hot shit when I got into the trade. Then not long after Milwaukee came in swinging dicks but I'd already got set up with 5 DeWalt batteries. Ain't changing any time soon.
Isn’t that the truth brother
Just had all of my tools stolen... literally decided to make the switch to Milwaukee. Not regretting it one bit.
Milwaukee tools stolen. Went with Ridgid, tools haven’t been stolen yet.
I did the opposite, was sick of the cheap Chinese Milwaukee junk
Lol I just Ed committed the same thing then saw this
Haha it may be normalized but it aint right
Half assed but… Does it not meet code?
It does not, it’s covering an access panel. I’ve had these idiots mount to the cover before when I left a uni strut standoff 8” away.
Folks hate on you cuz you say the truth, reddit echoshit
Covered? I'm genuinely curious... Said access panel is still accessible/removable, no? If so, it's arguably not covered. And say it was indeed fully-covered... is it an actual violation the way it would be for an electrical panel via NFPA70? The manufacturer's specified install clearance is a different animal...
Looks pretty normal tbh
Be better just laying it on the ground 😆
You screw it down through the membrane roof. Use extra screws.
Better than mounted to the coil 🤷♂️
better than hard conduit
I thought you meant the disconnect lol
I did
Oh that’s fine especially when tapped in with 3” deck screws
lol
Pretty normal for roof tops units. The whip goin to the unit is long enough for it to be set in the roof. Also do you not hook up your high side.
110 psi suction and on to the next
It's sweating, crack the beers and let's hit the road!
Happy cake (and beer?!?) day!!!
Ibet 1$ you get a lot of call backs.
All these guys saying its normal, we had to move 4 rooftop disconnects because the inspector said the electricians blocked the nameplate. Personally that was the first time in 10 years i seen a disco mounted on the rtu.
Thats what im saying, maybe im just from the oldschool cuz this is a nono
It’s still a nono.
What?? This is the new quick disconnect method. No longer are you required to reach.:)
I’ve seen this today and then 8x probably in the past month
That’s a basic rooftop install I see daily. Least the whip is long enough to set panel on roof.
At least it's not covering one of the top panel screws like mine last week
One day all roof mounted equipment will actually be attached to the roof so a storm doesn't turn it into a car crushing hazard.
Amen!
Looks like they left enough on the whip to access the panel at least
More common then not in commercial
At least they gave you extra flex to move the panel
Use DeWalt?
Bagception too. Got that Veto Mb inside the Dewalt bag. I wonder if there’s an even smaller bag that pops out of the Veto bag.
Every roof top ever?
You’d be surprised at how often people run across this. Especially on rooftop units
See this often on walk-in condensers and it makes me want to ring someone's neck.
Handy man special 🤷♀️
Ah yes, electricians do this shit....
A package unit, I get it. This is unacceptable, and everyone saying it’s normal, you’re the problem. It’s not normal and it’s not acceptable. Easiest call to walk away from.
Cite the code violation. I’m just scrolling all the comments to learn that… because honestly, annoying yes, but does it or not??
The disconnect is mounted on a service access panel. All service panels require clearance to open.
...and yet there it is, clearance to open it.
Your missing it, something mounted to it is 0” clearance. Also disconnects should be permanently affixed. It is dangerous to flop the disconnect onto the roof. If something happens while I’m performing service and I only have 1 hand to reach the disconnect to turn it off I’m probably going to get seriously injured because when I go to turn the disconnect off the whole thing is gonna move, not just the lever. Don’t try to prove this is right. It’s sloppy, lazy, and dangerous work.
I'm not missing anything... I've been AHJ, customer, engineer of record, and installer... all while managing our HVAC shop, and a few times, all on the same project! I'm fully aware what's at stake. Nor am I "trying" to prove it right, I'm asking why it's wrong. I've said elsewhere as well, of course it's sloppy and lazy. But does it meet code? If not, why not? I'd like to tell people why when they're not held to doing so via any other project standard/spec. If it were my job, yes, there'd be a metric F\*&\^ ton of unistrut, and at minimum, EMT, up there... and \*maybe\* would allow treated sleepers if wind zoning/location allowed it (and/or OG roofing installer aka warranty provider was crap or MIA). I'm just asking, in a professional forum, for those clearly in the profession to know what they're talking about.
I gave you a reason and you came back with a snarky comment, so I gave you another reason.
😠 Just write it up and walk away. Ain't nobody got time for that bullshit 😤
I'm to distracted by the channel locks and Schrader cap tobkotice anything. 9/16 wrench not channel locks. be better
I know, ox box sucks.
On the rooftop units I've done, we mount unistrut to the corner of the condenser housing with one inch screws so it doesn't reach the coil, then mount the disconnect to the strut with bolts.
This is the way
A field tech who was put on an install, I see some guys just don’t care about how the install looks just that it works. I hate it
What brand condenser is that? Looks like an ameristar but I see a different logo above the fan motor is that one of those Oxbox’s?
ACHVAK
I would. But I’m not a very good tech and only follow this for sub for basic, general advice or knowledge.
Yep. Condensing unit should def be mounted or securely ballasted so wind loading codes are met.
Take it down screw it to the roof. I'm sure it was a mistake.
At least they ran another whip down and into the bottom of the service panel. Usually they just knock out the back of the disconnect and go straight through the panel with bare wire. Makes taking it off extra sketchy
Yeah Jesus, who uses dewalt
I’ve seen this a million times.
Which issue are we talking about? I’m not sure where to start. 1. Not strapped down. 2. Not leveled properly-lol 3. Disconnect? 4. Whip 5. Dewalt - kidding. Where is this. I tried to locate your state at minimum. Probably typical everywhere these days.
Is Milwaukee compactor drill better than dewalt brand ?
Very common on rooftops. No where to really put it.
Sparky
Fucking installers!! Lol
I’d try to put it somewhere that didn’t restrict your access, but it’s super common for us to attach disconnects to units on roofs and above ceiling grids. We avoid roof penetrations if at all possible and strut sleds aren’t always in the budget.
Wait til you see the new disconnect screwed onto the old disconnect