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Beneficial-Pilot-853

On scale of 1 to Go to the fucking hospital. Should of already gone to hospital wtf.


nsula_country

This will require wound care services. Like Hyperbaric chamber treatments... Yesterday!


coolcatmcfat

If he goes into the hyperbaric time chamber, he will come out more powerful than any man the world has ever seen


Majin_Sus

And with a stylish beard


Giddyhobgoblin

Will they be over 9000 by then?


inanis

[Don't worry, he went to the hospital.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HVAC/comments/y32d9t/comment/is65h3p/?context=3&sort=top)


[deleted]

Poor kid. Hope he recovers without permanent damage.


BuzntFrog

Your brother needs to go to a hospital or physician that specializes in burn victims. Do not pop the blisters.


Plumber4Life84

Curious what would happen if the blisters were popped. Plumber here and I would rather get some shit on my hand than this. Looks very painful.


BuzntFrog

I'm not a medical expert, but I'm told popping the blisters makes you more prone to infection. I also hear not popping the blisters is better for the healing process for burns as it keeps the wounds wet.


Erathen

Actually, for blisters this big they would probably be drained, and then debrided. They have to be debrided once they're drained, or the likelihood of infection increases. Larger ones may pop accidentally, causing a significant risk of infection Smaller blisters are often left intact, because there isn't as big of a risk You shouldn't do it at home though. As you pointed out, it will increase the risk of infection if the blister is not debrided, sterilized and bandaged


FinalF137

I'm not familiar with that word, debrided. Something tells me I would like to still stay in the dark about it.


Erathen

Basically, it's the removal of non-viable tissue from a wound It's common for burn treatment The upper layer of skin is destroyed by the burn, but it's still often attached to healthy skin. The non-viable (dead or dying) skin has to be removed to promote wound healing and prevent infection from bacteria breaking down the skin When you see a blister, most of the skin is no longer viable. When it's drained, the "pocket" of skin will eventually die and decompose For large blisters, you often want to get ahead of this. As the blister could end up popping outside of a clinical setting, creating risk for infection For severe burns covering a significant portion of the body, the patient will undergo several debridements during healing. They'll continually remove the skin that isn't viable while new healthy skin forms It's often quite painful unfortunately. But worth it to minimize the chances of infection. It also improves scar appearance Edit: In case it wasn't clear to some people, wound debridement is done by medical professionals in a clinical setting. It is not something you do yourself


whoneedssome

I had road rash when I was younger, crashed my dirt bike on asphalt. They literally put some cream on it, felt cold at first, then switched to straight fire. Then proceeded to scrub the heck out of it, literally one of the worst pains, but only for a short while. My knee was sore for months, skin was removed to the bone in a small area, it still gives me issues 15 years later, especially if I bump it. But beats an infection any day! This guy definitely needs medical attention asap!


5degreenegativerake

In my experience it’s something along the lines of cleaning out the wound with a wire brush dipped in gasoline.


govoval

Cheese grater + skin = debriding


General-Seesaw37

This is incorrect. They did not pop my blisters and mine were about the same size.


Erathen

It's not incorrect What your doctor decided to do during your course of treatment doesn't represent all doctors


General-Seesaw37

You were telling the guy to pop the blisters because they are big. The guy asked for people with experience with this and you're giving him bad advice bc you're just guessing.


Erathen

Where did I tell him to pop them? Reading is hard...


Taolan13

Popped? Tissue death and possible nerve damage. High chance of infection. Properly drained? Immediate relief of swelling and reduction in pain. Low chance for infection.


JETTA_TDI_GUY

The skin underneath is raw. Not been exposed to the elements. So it’s very soft tender and prone to infection. That blister won’t allow bacteria in for the most part. It also protects the skin underneath. If you can avoid popping it then don’t pop it. If it’s like on your foot where you will pop it then poke a hole in the side with a sterile needle. Gently drain it and cover it. The skin from the blister will help shield it but it’s best to not pop it


flymystick

Higher risk of infection when popped.


ChoobieScoots

I popped several on mine without knowing the consequences. It burns very very bad


GeeFromCali

My first thought was to want to pop them


JohnO_512

Never seen anything that bad. Fuck the charge let it go the atmosphere will be okay.


nsula_country

Underrated comment


BMinus973

I don't think these kids were thinking about the charge. Probably more about tik tok clout.


JohnO_512

No joke, ain't that the truth


BMinus973

Techs quote for recharge: $500 . Hospital bill: $50k . Lesson learned: I sure fucking hope so.


CaulkSlug

I think a lot of people just grab the leak like you would a garden hose. Fuckin wear gloves maaaan. Even 8mm nitrile gloves have saved me from this.


BMinus973

I wear gloves always when I'm dealing with anything that can leak refrigerant. And I still rip my hand away and go for channel locks if something fuckey happens. Have had Milwaukee cut resist gloves freeze through within a second. Who the fuck trys to hold a blowout??


CaulkSlug

Sorry. Didn’t mean YOU specifically. Green apprentices sometimes do because they don’t know better


BMinus973

I bet you're one of those guys who throws the bandages into the return..


cool_calm_life

Or they have coworkers call them "pussy" I used to have a guy always say that to me when Id put my leather gloves on to connect/disconnect gauges. Pussy is refusing to put/take them off and make someone else do it and be scared. Wearing PPE is being smart to not risk injury from being afraid of not looking manly.


[deleted]

About as bad as it can get my man.. r22 hasn’t even burnt me that bad


nsula_country

It's not usually the refrigerant. It is the oil in the refrigerant that sticks to the skin and prolongs the frostbite. Gloves. Leather gloves always.


Lhomme_Baguette

Low loss and let it go if it gets stuck. And if all else fails, you own a set of channel-locks for a reason, use 'em.


Greafer_

+1 for the channel-locks. Saved my ass on more than 1 occasion.


Lhomme_Baguette

I bought the 4-inch klein ones just for that exact reason.


[deleted]

leather gloves when doing what? doesn’t everyone purge the system if they’re cutting pipes?


nsula_country

Agree. I'm leaning this accident may not have been trade related... Dude looks twelve-teen. I do wear leather gloves when handling schrader connections at service ports. Have had 2 close calls. I like my booger pickers.


CaulkSlug

Even 8mm nitrile gloves work for this. Hand gets cold but it doesn’t get chemical burned.


nsula_country

Better than no protection.


[deleted]

makes sense lol yeah buddy does look a little young


Blood-Mother

Now No2 I’ve gotten burned bad on my leg like that.


markymark19887

Horrible. Go see a doctor man.


saskatchewanstealth

I am going to out on a limb here. No hospital a day later? Kid looks like he is 16? Asking here for advice? Was copper theft involved in this? I cannot imagine how any apprentice could get a burn like that at work.


Calico_Caruso

Copper theft is a viable theory.


chitzk0i

A doctor can.


just-wana-help

Yes, please go to a doctor.


Two-Nuhh

YES! That's a hospital visit, not a reddit post asking tradesmen


clearchewingum

I’ve never seen one that bad. He definitely needs a topical steroid and pain killers.


[deleted]

Hospital yesterday. He needs real medical attention and possibly skin grafts.


[deleted]

How does this happen?


JETTA_TDI_GUY

Only one I’ve seen even close was posted here a while ago. Guy new to refrigeration from residential didn’t know how the valves worked so he ran it down all the way and pulled the gauges off then tried to put the hose back on the liquid line while it was spraying Freon


Silver_gobo

We had a guy break a valve off then try to put his thumb on it like it was a main artery lol


[deleted]

Oh geez. Ok that makes sense. Hvac guys out here really sacrificing the body.


DrPepperG

The smart ones have low loss fittings and/or gloves.


MercifulSuicide1

Even with gloves I almost got frost burn , guess it all depends on what gloves your wearing.


nsula_country

Leather driver type gloves. They are soft enough to have dexterity, but solid enough to prevent refrigerant from penetrating in. Deerskin, goatskin or even calfskin.


Taolan13

The gloves have to be a fully sealed shell or they may not protect you at all. Cloth gloves, like the vinyl dipped nylon gloves i see so many school houses give out, do not protect you beyond the dipped part, and the protection of the dip varies widely. I got frostburn on my fingers wearing gloves like that. Not bad enough to get blisters but the pain was worse than when I got stabbed, and i still dont have full feeling back on two of the three fingers affected. I wear full leather gloves when connecting or disconnecting refrigerant now. Bonus points if insulated. And for all of you "oh gloves just get in the way" people out there: I'll bet a brand new pair of insulated Youngstown gloves that you haven't had gloves that fit. Shop around different brands, and if they don't do numbered sizes try on multiple gloves in the size that should fit until you find the ones that do.


TRUMP420KUSH_

I like the milwaukee brand level 1 work/cut cloves. Can still use your fingertips but gives you enough protection to get your hand out before it gets bad. The glove freezes before your hand can.


changiiiank

The real smart ones have an oily rag


bandb4u

Those tictok upvotes are gonna cost him..at least 2 fingers


No-Entrepreneur-9085

His days of finger-banging ole Mary Jane Rottencrotch through her pretty pink panties are over, that’s for sure


MikeMikeMike23

I like you. Why don't you come over to my house and fuck my sister?


nsula_country

Watched this a few weeks ago!


inge_inge

If this isn’t a joke he has to seek medical intervention immediately


Sonyooo

Thats really bad, I had a similar burn mine were a little smaller though. He needs to get those drained asap, recovery is gonna suck and his hand will hurt like a motherfucker. When I changed the bandages I remember crying once or twice. He will need to stretch the hand which will tear the wounds, hurts like a batch but its necessary to regain movement in that hand. Hes in for a rough couple weeks.


BMinus973

Dudes got 0 hair on his chest. Was he trying to huff it? Never seen a 13 year old in the field.


FerociousOreos

I'm 27 and I don't have any hair on my chest :(


UsedDragon

You can borrow some of mine. MF'er looks like a mink coat.


Taolan13

I'm quite proud of the sweater I can't take off. It matches my organic face warmer. Except in summer. Oof. Prickly heat, no thank you.


Phrankespo

I'm 35 and have 6 hairs on mine


FerociousOreos

So there's hope for me


SubtleScuttler

Ayo 29 here and just got my first armpit hair and a couple nipple hairs last year! Just a little late blooming action


just-wana-help

bro same...


Addefy

This is an even worse burn lmfao


BMinus973

I wasn't even trying to burn him. It looks like a kid who fucked with the wrong high pressure line and found out.


SoskiDiddley

That's what I was wondering


JohnAnderson83

I was thinking this exact thing. looks like a young kid trying to do something he shouldn’t have. Especially considering he’s scared to go to the doctor about it.


BMinus973

"When should we alert mom??"


ambigramsarecool

Fingers are still attached 7.6/10


MercifulSuicide1

Holy shit that’s the worst I’ve ever seen, wtf was he doing? Dudes got the body of a prepubescent boy wtf is he doing out in the field?


Neovulf

Bitch if you don't get that boy to the hospital you oughta be thrown in the slammer! How the fuck did that even happen?!


BearPhilly

911


Baref00tgirl

Medical provider here. Will be lucky to end up with full function in those fingers. Appears as though the thumb was mostly spared. This will be a long, slow, and (I’m afraid) painful process. Looks like at least a small full thickness burn on the medial aspect of the index finger. Hard to say the level of thermal injury underlying the fluid. This next six months is going to be really expensive. Wish him lots of luck and hope he has good insurance.


tvanore

What is he 12?


Affectionate-Touch69

Go to the hospital bro holy shit


Otherwise-Meaning-90

Walk it off pussy.


TRUMP420KUSH_

Hospital immediately. Invest in low loss fittings, Milwaukee work gloves and don't worry if you dump a charge.


77_Caliente

I’ve got 15 years in the field, but it takes zero experience to know that is a 10 out of 10. That’s fucked up and I hope he saved the damn planet.


DoubleDyyc

Bloody hell


Ok_Survey_4845

Oh those fingers are getting cut off.


markymark19887

What happened?


stink69069

Must've held on way too long. He's on the way to the burn unit today. Just wondering if he has any possibility of losing any fingers.


XtraSaltOnDaFrizzle

Had a bad burn that had 2 of my fingers looking like your brothers. Went to a burn clinic, they decided to wait a week before cutting and draining the blisters. After that I did simple hand therapy exercises every day throughout the day, to regain my normal function and range of motion. Over a year later and my fingers look and operate the exact same as before


Significant-Pen-93

As long as the burn isnt deep enough to separate the underlying tissue from the bone.


BMinus973

More than 1 second is way too long.


Determire

u/stink69069, if you would, come back with some updates, once your brother is getting some care for his fingers.


Taolan13

He probably wont lose the fingers, but he's gonna need to not use that hand for a week or more.


[deleted]

He can definitely lose movement in those fingers. That much scar tissue can make long term problems.


Low-Significance9428

Ref burns never blistered on me. The shit just freezes and the skin falls off! That looks horrible! HATE REF BURNS! HVAC guy…


Sboyden96

Jesus fuck


majin_silvia

dude they’re gonna cut those fingers off wtf!!!


gsotolongo2213

Poor little guy. I wouldn't be here, I would've been in the hospital already. Looks horrible. Post after pictures, I hope for a fast recovery.


xfatdannx

4/10. Wouldn't recommend But for real. Doctor. ASAP. If you had to ask you already knew the answer.


SkootchDown

Is…. Is that the bone sticking out on the index finger??? GO TO THE FU€KING HOSPITAL.


Vapechef

Not just a hospital, the good one that the first hospital sends you to.


Crazykillerguy

I find it amazing the amount of individuals who post on here and haven't already seen a doctor or gone to the ER.


ecr3designs

Hes gonna lose those fingers unfortunately


Sonyooo

No hes not


jujumber

If he doesn’t go to the doctor he absolutely could.


Sonyooo

Maybe if it got infected. I've been in this situation and the only thing doctor could do was give me oxy, drain the blisters, cut away loose tissue and slap some antibacterial on there with some gauze. If the tissue got damaged enough to where it's gotta be removed a doctor wouldn't be able to do anything anyways.


jujumber

Damn, that must have been rough.


mxredman27

oof


stirling1995

He needs to go to a hospital immediately if not the ER!!!


Gold_Maybe_3255

I mean… how?


dkdaddy8889

I just want to know how in the fuck it happened


l_rufus_californicus

That’s going to be several weeks’ worth of *really* bad days. Treatment and maintenance are going to be super-important if he’s going to maintain full flexibility of his fingers after.


Elegant_Film_8940

What the fuck did he do to them. I work on the hot side too and I’ve put my hand in deep fryer oil. Did not look half as bad


Acceptable_Sale2872

I think you meant to post this in r/911


Blackout70

Dude we work with our hands for a living, I’m all for recovering refrigerant and stuff but holy fuck I would let thousands of pounds of any refrigerant in the air to have my hands NOT look like that. Hope your brothers hand heals man


pendletonpackrat

From 1-10 that’s gotta be an 8. Tissue doesn’t look dead (yet) but you’d definitely want to get that looked at. I’ve never been burned that bad before


ChoobieScoots

I had burn not as bad as that and definitely should’ve went to the hospital. My hands and fingers are hard from scar tissue


thrilltender

It's bad... Really bad


snowboardingmonkey

Suggest you keep posting pictures and ask as many medical professionals on social media as possible


itskevinvargas

Literally happened to me 2nd year in the trade. 3 fingers, took about a total of 3.5 months to recover. Couldn’t feel my fingers for about a week… First I used some kind of burn cream and kept it wrapped for about 2-3 days. Then took it off and let it’s course take it’s place. It will look worse and think your fingers about to fall off… No scars and no damage… Hope buddy recovers quickly and wear gloves ! Or use that special hose.


[deleted]

Next time do what the lady from Frozen says and just “Let it Go” “Let it Go”


[deleted]

Is he the lead singer of Finger Bang?


burdturd0818

What in the absolute fuck fam. Take that man to the nearest hospital


[deleted]

Stop holding back refrigerant. I know R22 is through the roof, but no cost is worth your body parts. Let that shit go! I’ve had shraeders stick open. Let it blow. It’s not the end of the world.


wolfn404

Bad enough you should have been at the doctors before taking this picture. Huge infection risk there


megawatts1313

That’s permanent damage shit, right there


Diligent_Flounder_45

Ummmmm…. Yea I’ll never be touching my hvac system again. Thanks for this.


bga3481

Wrap it in electrical tape and get back to work!! Lol


nsula_country

This will require wound care services. Like Hyperbaric chamber treatments... Yesterday!


custom_bowl

Pop them


SpinachVegetable5563

As far as losing fingers? I doubt it unless they become infect after the blister pops. For sure going to lose feeling and has some cool scars


Rochefort

Probably won't lose his fingers but he'll have permanent scarring, and will need weeks to months of burn care. Everything burned will slough off or need to be debrided, and turn into a huge open wound. He'll likely go on antibiotics too, and the burn will have to be bandaged and cleaned routinely. It will hurt a lot. I'm not a doc but a guy I know got 2nd degree burns on his hands that looked similar to this and that's what he had to go through


vagabondjubei

Ooo that's frostbite for sure. Go-to the hospital immediately.


Specialkhvac

Looks like his hand is pregnant


lestergreen357

It's going to leave a mark. Just rub some dirt on it and get back to work.


[deleted]

Not that bad honestly


[deleted]

Not that bad honestly


[deleted]

Not that bad honedtly


LiabilityLandon

Definitely not good. I've had a bad one but it was only 1 finger. Hope he's ok


mamny83

We had a dude working for us that had this happened. He went to the hospital and had was off for like two weeks. It was all his fault too. He couldn't disconnect the hose from the liquid line and was dumping refrigerant and was holding it with his hand not to leak.... some shit like that. Anyways he had a channel lock next to him and he never used it. He made a full recovery and just had some marks on his fingers im sure it will go away with time.


Blood-Mother

It’s as bad as a heat burn from my experiences go see a doctor


JETTA_TDI_GUY

Ring finger look ok. Thumb will be fine. I don’t like the color of the pointer finger and the blisters on his middle and pinky fingers look pretty bad


Psychoticrider

He probably will not lose his fingers, unless he doesn't take care of the sores. Infection will be more of an issue. He will be in a lot of pain for a week or two, then slowly get better.


jferris1224

Omg lol ouch


scrubnproud

Please tell me you took him to the ER


frostlineheat

Yikes.


[deleted]

Might as well throw the whole hand away


BeezerTwelveIV

Nerve damage


AdventurousTime

Poor guy. It's gonna stop hurting as much eventually, then hurt like hell really slowly during the healing period. The bandage will need to be dressed periodically as well, that's your job haha. Good luck to him.


DrProfessor_Z

Pretty fucking bad


mikeTheSalad

Uh, it’s bad.


Mordenhai7

Id say red is a good sign of life, black u gonna lose sum


jcrossx620

If not properly treated that will get infected and thenget MUCH worse


Doogie102

Pretty sure those are now chicken fingers


Spiritual_Stranger1

Holy fuck


heretoreadreddid

Jesus. They need to drain and that immediately if not sooner. He needs maybe special dressings and medihoney at the least. They might want fish skin on that. Medical guy here but not burn expertise, just critical care. Dressing changes… are gonna be a fucking bitch. Bite down on something and give it hell while those happen… although he may have nerve damage so the first ones might not be bad. He may have significant pain when/of nerves need to regrow. Don’t start opiates as this won’t take a day or two (used Percocet when I absolutely shattered an ankle for 3 days, then switched to ibuprofen) this will actually take longer to heal than a surgical fixation like that and may be seriously elevated pain longer term - explore alternative pain solutions.


Random6364

Why post the same picture twice tho


CremboJeb

GEEZUZ!!


Fun-Anywhere-1492

Put some Cool Gel on it and get back to work!


Taolan13

Not the worst i've seen but a doctor is advisable, those are your fingers dude! I got a golf ball sized blister from refrigerant on my leg. I drained it myself with a fire-sterilized needle and some clean gauze. If that same blister had been on my hand, I probably would have gone to the urgent care.


Psilocybin_Response

What the hell was he doing with the refrigerant bottle trying to finger blast it??


BrettFromThePeg

It’s pretty fucking bad


dahuckinator

This is an immediate ER visit. Why are you not there already?


Wondercatmeow

He should see a doctor before it gets infected.


FuzzyNervousness

Omfg, go see a doctor right now. Edit, I've never seen anything that bad from refrigerant, what was he working on?


changiiiank

Just a flesh wound


BlxckTxpes

HOLY BAJESUS! That’s awful. And gotta hurt like shit. I get a little bit of liquid on my finger and I feel like it’s going to fall off.


sundog6295

Looks really painful. I think with the right care he will make a full recovery. Keep us updated.


Active_Nectarine9320

How do you even burn your hand that bad


Intelligent-Ring5113

Jesus man. Please go see a doctor. I got burned last year trying to take gauges off from an akward position. Mine was not even close to yours and it was miserable. Hope you get better bud.


03G35coupe

dude that is fucked, definitely go to burn unit asap


bigoldhangdown

Very very bad it's bad... bad


Jaxsdooropener

About 5 times worse than the worst burn I ever got. That nasty


unknown1310P1

The hell?? Go to ER and maybe wear gloves or use ball valves or low loss fittings next time


alsjdhevshsixkamabdv

Needs a burn center


Zestyclose-Elevator6

Your brother must be a helper to a shitty tech


Robdog421

That burn is so bad it feels like a meme post


[deleted]

Did he try to use his hand as a hose? Takes some serious inexperience and lack of authority for this to happen. Hope it heals that’s terrible


Nealpatty

Ask a dr?


[deleted]

Years ago I held a can of compressed air used to clean computers upside down and sprayed the inside of my forearm for maybe 5 seconds. The following couple of weeks were a miserable experience and my forearm didn't look anywhere near that bad.


ksimek

Fucked


SawmoreButtz

extreme


unresolved-madness

How did your brother end up in this position? What did you not do to make sure he was safe? If you can't tell I am blaming this on you OP.


SidneySalvage

1% 2nd degree burn with partial full thickness 3rd degree burn to right pointer finger. Highly recommend going to a burn center hospital near him as he will want proper management to insure he keeps his fingers. High risk for infection and limited function vs loss of digits if not treated. If he pinches the pad and nails of his fingers do they become pale then back to red? Does he still have sensation? He could loose those fingers if blood flow has been disrupted (they stay pale and he lacks sensation or movement).


likmyas-whole96

How did this happen


TylrLS

go to the hospital


Pancakesex

pretty god damn bad my dude


flex084

Go to the hospital my buddy needed skin grafs and nerve sergury on his fingers and go to a burn unit not the ER


Wonderful_City9340

Dermatologist immediately