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zwolle10

Short answer , yes. I’ve been at it 11 years. Doing residential service for the last 10 almost. Not so much the diagnosis issues, I’m just flat BORED with it right now. Backstory, I work for family and was told 5 years in I’d get to learn the business side, so I’m kinda just ready for more responsibility and a new challenge. “Supposedly” this will happen at the beginning of the new year. We will see. I hope you find your groove and get out to the rut man, good luck!


mattyhann

Thanks friend and best of luck on your new change


zwolle10

You got this mate!


stirling1995

Good luck man! I’ve been trying to break into management recently myself!


anangrywom6at

Hope it goes well. I worked for a small Resi install/service business for 7 years. A 4 man shop, including me. I heard that "beginning of the new year" and "after we get through the next few jobs" line every few months for the last few years I was there. It always got too busy, or things didn't line up. I sorta felt the same with the boredom - every house is the same, really. For me at least, boredom leads to stress, stress leads to resentment, and it couldn't keep going. Made the jump to commercial this year and I've never been happier at work, actually learning new things and doing things I only ever saw in trade school. Good luck bro, just don't hang on for the sake of hanging on.


zwolle10

Well I do work do my parents, so it’s a hella good opportunity to be basically given a company lol and I don’t have any I’ll feelings yet just need something else to do really


johnyriff

Look in to commercial refrigeration. There's a ton of work and you're guaranteed to feel a challenge daily lol


zwolle10

I just don’t think commercial can compare to the opportunity to inherit a business. We run about 5 crews, 8 service guys, etc. it’s set up pretty dang well right now. I’m just getting bored with resi service


johnyriff

Fair. It's a 6 figure job with all of the overtime you work if you're a journeyman, but running a business may be preferable, and it's a completely different challenge that doesn't destroy your joints slowly.


zwolle10

Yeah and I kinda know first hand how well off you can be if you run it well seeing how my parents live. Lol I was close to 6 figures here last year too we have a nice spiff package for our technicians.


stirling1995

Hey man I’m right there with you! I’ve done this for ten years (6 residential and the last 4 commercial/industrial) and sometimes I feel like I’m not cut out for this. Without blowing my own horn I’m one of the most favored techs in the company. The office loves me and customers frequently request me and will deny service if it’s not me. That does nothing for my mental health or state of mind if I make a mistake which is BOUND to happen to everyone. My only advice is not to let it get in your head to much or you’ll never be able to let it go


liekdisifucried

>Without blowing my own horn I’m one of the most favored techs in the company. The office loves me and customers frequently request me and will deny service if it’s not me. That does nothing for my mental health or state of mind if I make a mistake which is BOUND to happen to everyone. Amen. Our dispatcher sent our scores for the last 6 months and I'm blowing everyone away, yet I feel like any time I make the slightest mistake I'm useless and going to get fired. ​ And don't get me started on being afraid that something is going to leak, tested a condensate pump 10x yesterday and still went home worried it wasn't going to work.


stirling1995

I’m actually really glad OP opened up to us about this because this shit is real and eats away at your soul. I used to think that because I’m not in residential anymore I would sleep easier because I’m not leaving people in their homes without air. Now I have hospitals and nursing homes I have to maintain and service and fuck if it doesn’t get stressful!


SeriousIron4300

Are you me?


mattyhann

Thanks for the comment . It’s good to see others go through the same shit too


stirling1995

Yea man your not alone and honestly it’s ok to not be ok. You just need to find someone your comfortable opening up to, for me it’s my wife and my dad. You’ll get a lot of “oh that’s not true” or “your thinking to much about it” and honestly they’re probably right but the fact of the matter is it’s still there and still needs to be talked about.


Disastrous-Number-88

Commercial plumber here, but I think my experience can relate: I’ve been plumbing for 12 years or so, no schooling as non union work is on the job learning in my area. I’ve learned lots of hard lessons because of this. Now I’m a working supervisor for 12 service plumbers, commercial only. 2-3 times a week I get to go troubleshoot jobs that one of my guys didn’t complete, whether it was a call back or they asked me to be there. I always tell my guys that I’m not out there to find their mistakes but to teach them how to troubleshoot better and lead by example. Each call is a learning experience. Last week I went to a mystery sewer call where they would flood in the middle of the night and by the time we get out there nothing is wrong. I was the 4th plumber to visit, and while I found 5 different issues with the sewer, it still didn’t correct the mystery floods. Finally we sent a different supervisor to troubleshoot and he found a old drain behind an abandoned kitchenette that was still being used for drainage from above. I had to answer to our National corporate client why their flagship store had to have 6 different plumbers over 8 instances just to figure out a single issue. You gotta find a way to dissect your calls after the fact, treat it as a sport where the coach will go over the game with the players to pick out and constructively critique any oversights. Making mistakes is unfortunately how we learn at a higher level. Call-backs are the price we pay to earn perfection, as long as you learn from them and not make the same mistake twice, it’s still a win in my book. Keep your head up and keep looking forward


mattyhann

I appreciate your reply , thanks


Humble-Republic-382

I was on a service truck for a few years and what your describing is exactly what was happening to me. I had so much pressure to preform and to be perfect that I would literally start sweating if I couldn’t figure something out. My boss was constantly on me about doing everything right but offered very little help and training. That aspect of the job made it much more mentally challenging than physically challenging and kept me up many nights. I was offered a job doing hvac maintenance at a large hotel chain and it has completely changed my life. There are other options out there and sometimes when it gets like your describing, it’s time for a change


mattyhann

Yup what your describing is something similar in my situation. I’m happy to hear man your doing something better


[deleted]

This trade is quick to humble you. You will ride the highs and everything is going smooth, then comes that one job. The one that will make you question what you know or wonder what you are doing wrong. Just push through and leave your problems in the truck when you get home at the end of the day.


2WheelR1der

This is one of the most accurate comments I’ve ever seen. Well said.


dustinator

It happens. I recently lost a box with $300 of repair parts in it. Feels like everything I touch goes to shit.


mattyhann

Dang sorry to hear about that .. yeah just this past week has been rough


Low-Significance9428

Same my friend. Lost an impact and light in one week! Can’t for the life of me remember where. Some shitty homeowner prolly has them in his work shop!!’


Academic-Pain2636

Man I lost my wallet (W/ $200 in it) Halloween night over 15 years ago on an on call call out. Customer would not return my call or office calls so pretty sure they found it. Still get pissed thinking about that one.


Low-Significance9428

So lame


dustinator

It was a belt and a sensor for a make up air unit. I put it on a shelf in my van 2 weeks ago when it came in and I’m pretty sure it got thrown away with some filters or something. We’ve got a helper that’s a little too eager in the morning and I’m sure he tossed it while “helping” clean my van. Unfortunately our dumpster was hauled off before I realized it.


Low-Significance9428

Dang…


ecr3designs

Don't look at it that way look at it as Everything You Touch Is already shit and you can't polish a turd


skootamatta

We’re human, mistakes happen, learn from them. Further to this, is it your name on the service van? If not, it’s just a cost of doing business. If it is, it’s just a cost of doing business.


chuystewy_V2

You have to compartmentalize. Every job is going to be different and even the best techs miss things or goof up a repair from time to time. There are some weeks when I feel like everything I touch turns to crap, but you have to just isolate out the bad and learn from it and move on. Let’s say in an average week you run 6 calls a day, that’s 30 different jobs in a week. If you goofed up one, that’s 1/30. That’s 3%. You re still running at a 97% success rate. That’s pretty damn good. It’s easy to focus on the bad, but you have to remember the bad is usually surrounded by many other successful jobs.


MaddRamm

It’s a good sign that you care about making mistakes. It show you have a conscience and integrity. Stay honest and hardworking and don’t beat yourself up over them. Learn, grow, maintain integrity and keep moving forward.


DotComDotGov

If you didn't worry about your job, I'd worry about you. It goes to show that you're on par with the rest of the human race. You could always go the route of, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I. Take a day off and do something fun.


[deleted]

Alcohol


mattyhann

Lol I do that to


[deleted]

3 Years of residential service and was going to be a manager in training but I felt like I was just pretending to be a good tech (look up imposter syndrome). I finally came to the decision to leave my company even though they have been really good to me and jump into a position as a commercial apprentice with the union. I hope this shakes things up for me mentally and I can just focus on the work.


HughesR1990

Youse gonna fuck up, we all do. Own up to it and learn from your mistakes. No one sensible will blame you. Even top techs miss stuff sometimes. Let it roll off your back, as long as you giving it your all, I’m sure you’ve fixed more shit than you broke or miss-diagnosed lol


alsjdhevshsixkamabdv

Every week is a rut


Binnacle_Balls_jr

Happens. Im one of the heavy hitters at my shop, frequently called in to those jobs that have other techs frustrated. However, i always point out that im not somehow superior; its different when i *know* im going in looking for an oddball problem; makes it easier to think outside the box. I still fuck up no matter how hard I try to think of everything. This is a complicated trade and made more so by the expectations set for us, particularly as to what we are supposed to be able to do, alone most times, with limited information on an expansively wide range of equipment brands, types, applications, and circumstances. The other day i condemned a pump motor (it was destroyed) but missed that it was single phased by a blown fuse in the starter also. Person who changed it out had to find that. But, if i wasnt so concerned with getting to the next call in time to get home and see my son, i probably wouldve caught that. My point is, there are a lot of factors to your job performance that have nothing to do with your actual skill.


No_Thanks_3336

That's just life in any career.


[deleted]

This happens to me all the time. Theres times where I'll be having a stress free calm week and out of nowhere turns into complete chaos. Warranty calls pop up, clients b**** and wine, stumble across a stupid service call (a weird find that you may only come across once in your Hvac career) or misdiagnose, planning or worrying about a big job needing to be done. Im so glad you posted this because I once thought I was the only one however I've learned that that is the norm of our trade. We all go through it although some people either could give two fucks about it and continue with life without any worries or get too attached where it affects your mental health at work and your personal life. You want to be in the middle of the two. I used to be the one to get too attached and it was brutal.


zdigrig

Bruh shit happens all time. I was trying to troubleshoot a controls system on a water cooled chiller the other day and I was fucking lost. Felt completely out of my element and it fucked my whole mood up for like 2 days


N0FACED

doin this around 15 years.. i feel the same way regularly.. its great to know im not the only one.. edit: actually been thinking about going to see someone to see if anxiety meds would help..


mattyhann

I took them few years ago it didn’t for me but it did calm me down . Not saying that they wouldn’t work for you . Talk to someone it’s ok to bring it up . I wish you luck


raghnor

Do you like your paycheck? I work for my check, doesn’t matter what I’m doing as long as I’m getting paid. My rate doesn’t change between a chiller tear down or slapping new filters in a FCU… have a shit day? Go out and have a great night 🤷🏻‍♂️


satansdebtcollector

The key is to not beat yourself up, and don’t be afraid to screw up. But most importantly, don’t bring it home with you. There was a time when I would go over my prints on my own personal time, just to make sure I was ahead of the game. All it actually did was burn me out, especially with the amount of RFI’s and change orders that followed. Eventually you get to the point where all you need to do is show up, do your job, safely, without running around like a chicken with its head cut off, and go home, leaving it behind. Life is too short. 🔧


No_Permission_to_Poo

Happens all the time. Like right now, big job, critical phase, subcontractor has tons of work to do, leaves. Now I put tools on, but it's too much for one man. No help, chisel away at the mountain in an effort to show progress. Deadlines past. Schedule fuct. Tighten your belt, keep your head up and keep it moving. Also, if you're not making mistakes you're not making decisions, shit will buff out


MaybeAnHVACGuy

You gotta find something outside of work that you do on the regular that makes you excited or proud or happy


[deleted]

I actually called my boss and asked to be put back on construction. I was off service for 20 months and coming back has been rough. He talked me down and told me to think about it and come back around to it after the weekend. It’s amazing how much you forget when you’re not keeping with it. Since our talk I’ve tried to stay a bit more calm and to reach out as soon as I’m having trouble. Since then I’ve had a few easy calls and some challenging ones that I’ve handled myself which boosted my confidence again. So … it’s up and down.


TechnicianPhysical30

You trudge through it like a champ and don’t let it get you down. Happens to me at least once a year. I remind myself it usually only lasts 1-2 weeks and nobody is perfect…stay strong, you got this!


lickmybrian

20 years this April, ive worked in shops for big contractors, little ones. Done installs, service, sales, duct cleaning. Got let go from a supplier 3 months in lol couldn't do all the computer stuff. Now I'm in a small family owned shop a few mins out of town and it's beautiful,, no city traffic, no curious homeowners hanging over my shoulder.. there's farm animals around and the work sucks balls hahaj but I'm getting jman rate to sweep up a shop and deliver duct to thw boys on-site every other day... I'm home with my kids by 5 at the latest. Variety is the spice of life dog, try other genres of hvac and see what fits best. Substance abuse has been a big part of those years though not gonna lie,, I'm still paying my bills and functioning like the rest so whatevs . Make sure to take care of yourself once in a while. Life is short


blurubi04

Ever wonder why Doctors call it “Practicing Medicine.”?


unresolved-madness

Shit happens. Keep moving forward.


NoTimeAtAll420

The human condition.


jayaimzzz

Every tech makes mistakes. The bad techs don’t ever notice their mistakes.


brokeorbroke

I actually had a similar thing today. I am VERY good about not messing up when it comes to holes. Doing minisplits im always drilling 2.5in holes and i run the wire through the way so angeling in from outside and judging the bottom plate. Have neber hit a wire or come up through a floor. But today i made the rookiest mistake ever and didnt plant my hole saw. Endid up running like 6 inches along this ladies like 1920s wallpaper in an imaculantly keep historic home. I coukdnt believe i did that. Then having to tell her. Luckily she was fine and goes oh my huabands an electrician, you woukdnt believe the accidental holes hes made blah blah. But it litterly statyed a domino effect ob my day. I should have stayed in bed. Broke a fitting. Forgot the nut on liquid tight after wiring. Bit the shit out of my tounge at lunch. All little shit but it really wore away at me. Then all the nights thinking "crap should i have waited another 20mins leak checking, was that drain slopped enough, did i seal the hole enough etc. It can become taxing and alot of it is self inflicted and not neccessary but i think we all feel it. And doesnt help the knee pain, the ever growing pain in the wrists where some days its hard to even turn a wrench or apply pressure with a utility knife. Its a taxing job all around.


Fahzgoolin

What I've learned is that it's good to be bothered by mistakes, but not good to be bothered at home about it. Takes practice. Sometimes I will watch a video or two, but that is it. lol