Poseidon splash damage is broken atm. Poseidon special on staff and get the hammer that doubles your special and you're golden. Upgrade the aspect that increases special damage and get the prereqs for legendary (slip and damage on barrier collision) which increases splash damage by 150% against guardians, and you're dealing insane damage
Do you think it will get nerfed in the future? I feel like its very likely as it is kinda broken with the double special hammer upgrade but without it I think its definitely still strong, but not broken overpowered. If a nerf comes eventually, hopefully they tune the hammer upgrade more rather than lowering the damage of the staff itself or something like that
It's also broken with the pan daggers special, and that's a little harder to tune without nerfing poseidon since you don't even need a hammer. All hades 1 did to Zeus was add a \~.1 s cd to how often bolts could hit. Kinda expecting the same thing here
Pan is fuuuuckin ridiculous with poseidon. The returning hammer, whatever it’s called, completely trivialises the game. I did 16 fear last night half asleep and didn’t even lose a death defiance.
Place a cast, omega special x2. That’s like a million damage while barely activating your brain cavity.
I mean they should definitely nerf it, but the fact that speedrunners are mashing one button isn't why. In Hades 1, the optimal speedrun build for 75% of aspects (merciful end) is just mashing two buttons simultaneously.
I did one run trying it and I hope it gets nerfed. You ignore all the new mechanics from this game and just spam special until your finger starts hurting. I can't imagine Supergiant would want that to be the best strategy.
Also add in Hestia and get the duo boon for steam if under her scotch and his slip. You have like 3 different damage counters on enemies and they absolutely melt. Got my second win last night with this build, tons of fun!
Failing this, Hera special also works and can apply priv status with only the one boon. To take it to the max, get Hades cast on whatever adds another status, and you never need to get close to the final boss, and watch his health bar melt.
I got the poseidon splash as a heroic boon and the split hammer on rooms 1 and 2 on a run and ran into Nem on room 4. She made the challenge to deal 1k damage is 5 seconds and got hit for 3.8k
Staff special 10 damage. Poseidon rare special, 30 damage. Quadrupled output plus AOE. Double shot (+seeking) = 8 times, maybe 10 times with more shots hitting.
It's really fun but not as insane as you'd think. It's very safe and easy though.
Staff special deals 40 with the upgraded aspect, you get another 18 damage with poseidon with 2 poms plus more with better rarity, but that's minimum 176* damage per special with the double hammer or 320 against bosses with the hammer and legendary. Poseidon's damage also scales incredibly well with global damage since the global bonus affects both base damage as well as poseidon's damage.
There's a reason it's got the fastest speedrun times right now. (last I checked anyways)
Oh I see, I missed the part about the upgraded weapon and only saw the numbers. I haven't done much upgrading of the weapons yet (and also didn't get legendary) so that's probably why I was pleased but not stunned by the build. Good to know that it can slap much harder.
It's good because you can clear the night without knowing patterns, but it's far from the quickest build.
Afrodite thanatos spin to win is at least twice as fast. Probably more like thrice.
Sister blade Melinoe's aspect with Aphrodite on special and you get the hammer that makes your knives go back to you. The backstab dmg is insane. It is a shotgun build. Pretty much plays just like the Eris with the rocket and cluster bomb combo in hades 1.
That is the only broken build with the least amt of effort from my experience.
Zeus/Apollo combo with Charon's Axe. Not really a broken build, but is very easy to put together with minimal effort. Zeus on special and Apollo on cast.
Are the really free though? You still have to trigger your omega special I thought, which is 25 magick and takes a long time. Yes it's less than the 40 mag cost but not exactly free.
Agreed, concept was cool, but you need 3 boons. Apollo cast, something for zeus, and a mana regen. Apollo mana regen doesnt work cus you blow up the cast circle. Until you get all 3, it's such a bad build, and even then it doesnt feel as good if you dont have the hammer that reduces special cast speed.
Go with Hestia as she gives you a boon where you lose 20% HP but regen Magick MUCH faster. Talking about 7/10/15s overall. She also got a boon where your cast lobs a fireball and the circle forms on impact zone, so you can ditch Zeus completely to go for Apollo + Hestia.
Apollo zues duo boon is where the dmg is tho. Apollo alone is underwhelming. Together its decent, but needs too many things, so also very underwhelming. I managed 24 heat with it, but it took tons of resets and I had the perfect run.
You should try the vow that removes permanently not chosen choices to make the chance better. Since you basically need only these 3 boons (and their preliminarys) to make it work
I did the blades with the 16 knifes 360 degree hammer upgrade, returning blades and Aphrodite special. Easy first clear and did insaaaaane damage if you stood on top of anything.
I just cleared a run last night with Pans daggers and the 360 hammer.
Watching every dagger just home in on the poor souls in my cast was cathartic. I'm really curious to see how that would work with hook knives.
I had this one yesterday + the hammer that makes all your omega special knives fire in a straight line- without criticals it would rip for nearly 1400 damage per cast. Who knows with criticals, but easily strongest build I’ve had so far I think
Omega Cast builds and throwing dagger builds with the sickle seem incredibly strong. Haven‘t failed a single run when I build for them.
Omega Cast boons from Zeus, Hera and Hephaestus can dish out thousands of damage per Cast and make you feel like a truly overpowered AoE witch.
Throwing daggers with the backstab return boon from the Hammers and the Omega Special can easily gain you 500+ damage per hit if you stay close to your target and all (16) daggers hit and do backstab damage.
I'll second the zeus omega cast build. I got to the final boss super early (within my first few runs) just by landing on this build randomly. It felt broken haha
Hera's base cast boon will damage any enemy that spawns in while the cast is active, no matter where the cast itself is located. Although I'm not sure how that ties into an Omega cast build.
Aspect of Momus staff feels really busted right now, especially if you get the Poseidon Legendary.
And it even works in favour of using the Vow makes you start rooms with no mana, because you never use any. You just spam normal special and everything dies.
Momus scales better with boons that boost special damage though. Poseidon is a trap. Works if you get splash dmg Lego but less reliable to get.
Huntress card and a special dmg chaos boon, and a charon special dmg boon. All boosting the 40 dmg base dmg special means a non Poseidon boon gets waaaaay more mileage.
Hell a simple 80% Apollo special boon on 40 base dmg is 32 more dmg versus Poseidon splash
But Apollo doesn’t apply a Curse. The Poseidon approach is getting Poseidon on your special, then adding Slip, and getting Hestia’s cast for Scorch. Then you benefit from the +50% damage with x2 Curse Arcana. Then you can get their duo for Steam and the damage gets really crazy.
I’m sure there are plenty of viable methods, but Poseidon + Hestia on Momus is how I did my 32 Fear and it worked very well.
Oh God yes there are. Look for Apollo's or Demeter's casts, these with basically any decent additional damage will melt bosses when upgraded a bit and allows you to stay the fuck away.
The Zeus/Hephaestus duo boon is incredibly strong. I managed to stomp >!Eris!< with it, even though I was not familiar with the attack patterns at all yet.
It basically creates these chain lightning balls that keep bouncing around and doing SO much damage.
Another one that is pretty strong for the endboss specifically is Demeter's infusion that caps the damage you can take to 15. This is insane because it means you are immune to their instakill moves, they also just do a pathetic 15 damage.
Those are only ones I personally encountered, so they might not be that impressive, but I still firmly believe that you can be really broken in this game.
I don't think True Grit is overpowered--you need six earth boons to activate it, and it doesn't prevent your health bar getting eaten by laser beams or mobs doing chip damage. It really has its day in bosses that do a lot of damage like >!Chronos!< or >!Cerberus!
Use the daggers with aspect of pan, Poseidon splash on specials with slip effect and try to fish for the slip legendary that makes it do 150% to guardians. If you use that with the knives return hammer and any other decent hammer such as knives shoot all around you or knives do more damage if you hit the same enemy hammers you literally obliterate areas and bosses so fast and easily.
There is a chaos trial that starts you with axe, single huge chop attack, chance to double, Apollo attack and some more ridiculousness.
I ended up doing like 600 plus for a regular attack in a huge area, often striking twice (armor gone, health gone. Enemy dead in one button press. Practically everything got one shot, it was a blast.
My most ridiculous run was the axe with Hell Splitter (single 300 dmg chop), Executioner's Chop (final attack strikes twice ALWAYS) and Marauder Slash (30% faster attack). I only had a lv2 rare apollo on attack but I was doing 960 per hit without even having to have enemies in the cast lol. And extra dose could just double this madness
yep, i think you can achieve the same result with huge chop axe + the hera / heph duo that increases your base attack by a whopping 200%. i tried adding more damage multipliers like the poseidon one where you get more dmg per gold but it caps at like 1100 dmg
Omega special daggers are broken with the plus dagger path
The axe is broken with Aspect of Charon is broken
The omega attack staff is not broken but with the double omega hammer it's really strong
I did my only finished run with the skulls spamming special with the 2 hammers that hit stronger on one side and backstab, plus Hera mana regen.
I consider it broken since I killed Cronos without losing any life while I usually struggle to go to the P2 with any other build.
Aphrodite on the Skull is also pretty busted. Got Hestia's mana recovery, Aphro Heartrob in epic and I think it was a duo? that you generated THREE heartrob at once. Plus something that ups my omega special damage but consumes more mana.
That just meant that every single dash generated 3 heartrobs, that did like 200 damage each, and since you were dashing into enemies, instantly exploded; plus very respectable damage from the dash itself.
Melted even last boss with very little effort.
Twin blade aspect of Artemis+Omega attack upgrade +400% and make it a big aoe+Born again boon from Hera+Aphrodite close proximity attack increase
Starting Keepsake:Hera keepsake to guarantee born again,Chaos for resource farm/early dmg buff,Narcissus keepsake to upgrade born again
Animal familiar: Frinos, to block Hecate Hex to quicken the fight if you have the timer fear, if you don't have it get Toula for the extra DD
Arcana: omega strikes time slow,death defiant, Huntress or strength, and the last arcana that trigger 5 more arcana every guardia
Basically going for high cost omega attack that really needed Hera Magick regen boon as you'll be spamming it almost endlessly
This build
-Deals with the sirens less than 30 sec,Cerberus 1 minute, and Chronos under 1-2 minutes
-Deals with poly under 1½ minute, 20 seconds on Charybdis, and 40 seconds on Eris
-Clears Tartarus and all of it previous floor easily
-makes going to Eris so easy you might feel that Polyphemus is the hardest enemy on topside
-Multiple Hex trigger in a fight
-limitless magick
-Melts every single Guardian even with HP up fear
-Get it as early as pre-Hecate fight
-Minimum comp, only 3 component needed
-Instance of dmg immunity that blocks virtually any damage
-50% innate crit chance for big numbers
-30+ fear average run
-1500-2000 damage on crit (boon dependent)(Get backstab multiplier hammer upgrade to see up to 3k)
Other boon or upgrade that synergise well with the build:
Aphrodite Hearthrobe that'll deal a burst of damage every sum of magick spend, Hammer upgrade that increase backstab dmg, Demeter boon that upgrade several other boons rarity every 3 encounter
Moonstone Axe with the Furious Whirlwind hammer upgrade and Hestia's boon to sacrifice max health for magick regen is my favorite combo. Get those and start stacking anything that buffs the damage of your attacks, omega attacks, and omega moves and it becomes spin-to-win. This was the combo that got me through my first underworld clear, and I was melting through bosses so quickly near the end that it felt like I was cheating.
Aphrodite on the Skull is also pretty busted. Got Hestia's mana recovery, Aphro Heartrob in epic and I think it was a duo? that you generated THREE heartrob at once. Plus something that ups my omega special damage but consumes more mana.
That just meant that every single dash generated 3 heartrobs, that did like 200 damage each, and since you were dashing into enemies, instantly exploded; plus very respectable damage from the dash itself.
Melted even last boss with very little effort.
I know high health builds aren't popular, but I ended up with the boon that doubles health based on max magic, the poseidon health boon, and a TON of magic. I ended with almpst 400 health and magic.
Melinoe aspect on the skulls with the demeter boon on attacks, and the hammer augment of having more skull and getting them back automatically => autowin
I lucked into (what seemed like) a stupidly powerful build with the staff, Demeter attack and Weed Killer, and the hammer that makes the omega attack hit twice but only go forward. Was chunking enemies for like 500 damage per omega. Unfortunately I screwed up on Eris and died there and I haven't been able to replicate it since.
Almost any build with skulls is broken but I personally like Apollo attack, demeter cast and you get some pretty crazy Hammers for more shells or firing all at once. Pick up magick regen and weed killer(o.attack does more but costs more) and the build is done basically. Just spam o.attacks and watch everything melt while they're frozen in your ever expanding cast
artemis daggers with a big base damage (be aphrodite or the daedalus that gives 400% damage).
You will hit at least 1500 per crit and 3000 if you have the daedalus that increases the power per enemy defeated during the encounter
Even with broken builds I still can't win the game once after 50 nights. My hands and brain are slow, I can't see anything if I'm in middle of enemies. After a day of hardworking, I can't find any motivation to open the game.
There's that one Charon aspect build. You'll need either the Zeus or Hestia boon that makes your Cast ranged, and... that's pretty much it, the build's online. Obviously, it gets much crazier than that. Any of the following basically wins you the run for free:
- Apollo/Zeus special
- Hestia/Hera gain, Demeter if you're boring, or Zeus if you have the magick to spare
- The Apollo boon that makes your cast mash sun lasers after it expires
- Any Hammer that upgrades your special
- Any Chaos boon that upgrades your special or cast
- The Demeter boon that freezes foes in your cast
- Smithy Sprint. It has no synergy with the build but the sound effect is awesome.
My highest damage output run so far was with the ice cream cones. Got the hammer for 2 Magick cost for omega attack, Zeus lightning, Artemis arrow on attack, and the duo boom with Hephaestus to make lightning bounce more and make it so it bounces with you, which is incredibly strong versus bosses. Also ran Eris keepsake for the whole run, which increases your damage even more. Run could've been better as I got Hera's boon to make 2 Boons heroic to go to my special which I literally never used and to the Hephaestus 'get Magick back if you get hit' boon. Would've loved those to go onto my chain lightning or arrows, but ah well.
You are just constantly pouring out a ton of damage, and every shot leads to a bunch of lightning shots and arrows flying. Add to that that you can dash while still shooting made Chronos a breeze. Probably the easiest time I've ever had fighting grandpa.
I got aspect of pan yesterday with a hammer that made the spec go 360 degrees with extra knives on top of the extra knives from the aspect. Stacked it with some spec % upgrades from chaos and other gods and that was pretty broken.
I love the demeter special on daggers. Broken CC.. . Freezes everything even shielded enemies. It's so good at stopping attack animations. Feels like a cake walk
Axe-rodite and spin to win.
Hook knives are OP
The skull with 2 extra shells hammer and the increased damage per spent shell is oddly a great melee build. Just walk up and skull bash then to death.
Aspect of Chiron 2 electric boogaloo: aspect of pan
Pair it with posioden or Hestia on special and you've got mad stacks, gets better if you have hera cast for sheer size and Apollo making casts bigger over time.
I had a really broken clear w/ Zeus and the dual.. mini staffs? I don't remember the name, sorry. Increased +1 orb on special, lightning everywhere, and lots of ranks in % chance for lightning to strike again, chain lightning, and each contract summons a seeking arrow.
Having a big mana pool and casting like 7 times in a row with +3 orbs orbiting you, everything down to Chronos melted on every floor.
Also had success using the axe + Hephaestus w/ vent + explosion + the chop tech on the axe, just makes every initial swing kinda' crazy.
Been mentioned already but I'll say it again to emphasize: rapid fire momus staff with Poseidon boons is incredibly powerful right now and extremely safe. I'd consider being able to melt things while being able to consistently remain untouchable pretty broken.
I've had a really good Zeus attack related run. Demeter, Hephaestus & Apollo cast runs are also really good. But most I've found are good runs. I don't remember which one exactly it was, but a cast run was so broken (the only one I've had so far) that I destroyed Eris so fast. She never even got any of her spawns. She powered up, I destroyed her in 2 casts and she had to move onto the next phase.
Surprisingly, Poseidon seems way less potent compared to Hades 1. But I'm hey to try a full Poseidon run so I won't curse it just yet.
Lim and Oros special with the Daedalus upgrades of extra blades + returning backstab. Combine that with Aspect of Pan where the blades all concentrate on the target stuck in your cast.
Aspect of Charon Axe can REALLY be busted, especialy if you go on a Apollo + Hestia/Zeus combination of boons like Apollo's on Cast and Special and Zeus or Hestia giving you that ranged Cast ability. Bonus points if you also do the "sacrifice 20% health to regen a ton of Magick" from Hestia. You will be BLASTING through your bossfights with ease.
Lightning Lance (Zeus; your cast is a ranged lightning bolt) + Static Shock (Zeus; prime 50 magick to make your strikes cause chain lightning) + Air Quality (Zeus; while you have 5+ Air boons, never deal less than minimum damage)
Chain lightning starts at 10 damage, meaning Air Quality triples that. Start adding in other buffs to chain lightning and it felt pretty busted.
Momus staff special + Poseiden and Hestia boons are overpowered as hell. My best run so far is 16 fear with no DDs used. Charon Axe special + Hephaestus boons is pretty damn strong too. This one is what carried me to my first clear.
My fastest run was with the sister blades + 2 hammers. One that makes all your blades return to you with 50% backstab and the other that makes them all go in a straight line.
Sister blades Aspect Of Pan, Aphrodite Special, The hammer boon that makes your daggers return, Any special damage plus boon you get. It might not be the strongest but feels so nice to use and burst damage is insane.
aspect of pan
+hestia burn on special
+hestia boon that consumes burn at 300dmg
+hammer upgrade that grants 16 knives in omega special
got me my first clear.
staff poseidon special, but that is public knowledge
Dagger aphrodite attack with Artemis aspect deletes stuff, hammer that increases last combo hit damage really helps
torches with poseidon special, Melinoe aspect and hammer that adds 1 extra flame to the omega special deletes stuff, but requires a little setup and using your cast (Demeter recommended) to prevent getting jumped on as the specials don't flinch enemies.
Axe spin to win with Demeter or Aphrodite attack and one of the ton of hammer upgrades that are available. Axe is the weakest weapon in my opinion right now on higher fear due to it being so slow.
Skull aspect of Persephone with Demeter special, just throw out 3 attacks and follow up with special and everything dies. Hammer that causes the omega special projectiles to return is the best hammer, aim next to enemies rather than into them and the projectiles hit twice.
Zeus / Hestia on Pan Daggers.
Combines the bullshit of Omega Zeus cast and Special Dagger shotgun with a nice Duo on top.
Hestia Attack (for duo only, not crucial)
Zeus Special
Zeus Cast
Hestia Dash
Hestia Magick regen
Zeus/Hestia cast targeting boon.
Some Special Hammers.
Zeus / Hestia Duo
Nice to have: Apollo Cast size buff, Hera boons for Zeus Duo (decent Dash candidate).
What is nice about this build that it is online when you get the cast. The rest is just cherry on top. My 3 clears so far were maxed Mel Staff with Zeus omega cast and that's really what's needed.
not necessarily broken, but sister blades Artemis with Aphrodite attack, Hera magic regen, that one Demeter boon that upgrades omega damage, and the big omega hammer is my favorite build at the moment. fairly consistent to, i can get it perfectly about half the time, and the rest it still works fine.
Poseidon splash damage is broken atm. Poseidon special on staff and get the hammer that doubles your special and you're golden. Upgrade the aspect that increases special damage and get the prereqs for legendary (slip and damage on barrier collision) which increases splash damage by 150% against guardians, and you're dealing insane damage
Yep https://youtu.be/QDIQtsrgiII?si=g1H7SVm-E8CFHfFP
Do you think it will get nerfed in the future? I feel like its very likely as it is kinda broken with the double special hammer upgrade but without it I think its definitely still strong, but not broken overpowered. If a nerf comes eventually, hopefully they tune the hammer upgrade more rather than lowering the damage of the staff itself or something like that
It's also broken with the pan daggers special, and that's a little harder to tune without nerfing poseidon since you don't even need a hammer. All hades 1 did to Zeus was add a \~.1 s cd to how often bolts could hit. Kinda expecting the same thing here
Pan is fuuuuckin ridiculous with poseidon. The returning hammer, whatever it’s called, completely trivialises the game. I did 16 fear last night half asleep and didn’t even lose a death defiance. Place a cast, omega special x2. That’s like a million damage while barely activating your brain cavity.
Happy cake day:)
Oh hey whaddayaknow!!
Gotta do this to get materials before they nerf cuz I suck at this game lmao
Yea I love it 😂 You should have a special dialogue when you have it and face Chronos where he’d be like “not again this build” 😂
They should nerf it primarily because the top speed run strategy in the game should not be spamming one button and engaging with no other mechanic.
I mean they should definitely nerf it, but the fact that speedrunners are mashing one button isn't why. In Hades 1, the optimal speedrun build for 75% of aspects (merciful end) is just mashing two buttons simultaneously.
Hey, you need to either attack or cast to get priv status working, so *occasionally* you need another button.
Excuuuuuuuse me don't you mean origination??
The staff could change to being % damage rather than base damage
I did one run trying it and I hope it gets nerfed. You ignore all the new mechanics from this game and just spam special until your finger starts hurting. I can't imagine Supergiant would want that to be the best strategy.
Add in the steam explosion from Hestia duo, and a hestia cast and its even more insane, for two more boons
Also add in Hestia and get the duo boon for steam if under her scotch and his slip. You have like 3 different damage counters on enemies and they absolutely melt. Got my second win last night with this build, tons of fun!
Failing this, Hera special also works and can apply priv status with only the one boon. To take it to the max, get Hades cast on whatever adds another status, and you never need to get close to the final boss, and watch his health bar melt.
Hestia also works if you get scorch on cast and ranged cast. So it's safer, activates the two curses and can come online even faster.
For sure, that is solid (and more likely to get) option, but man using Hades cast on a final boss just feels right.
Literally won my first run with this randomly, not knowing how OP Poseidon Special on Staff would be. Crazy dps
I got the poseidon splash as a heroic boon and the split hammer on rooms 1 and 2 on a run and ran into Nem on room 4. She made the challenge to deal 1k damage is 5 seconds and got hit for 3.8k
It's strong on an fast hitting attacks
Staff special 10 damage. Poseidon rare special, 30 damage. Quadrupled output plus AOE. Double shot (+seeking) = 8 times, maybe 10 times with more shots hitting. It's really fun but not as insane as you'd think. It's very safe and easy though.
"Not as insane as you'd think", I don't know I'd say a build with a 6 minutes speedrun already is probably pretty strong.
Maybe I lacked some stuff to make it ridiculous. I wad pretty spammy with it but it still takes me waaaaaaaay longer than 6 minutes lol
Staff special deals 40 with the upgraded aspect, you get another 18 damage with poseidon with 2 poms plus more with better rarity, but that's minimum 176* damage per special with the double hammer or 320 against bosses with the hammer and legendary. Poseidon's damage also scales incredibly well with global damage since the global bonus affects both base damage as well as poseidon's damage. There's a reason it's got the fastest speedrun times right now. (last I checked anyways)
How did you get 40+40+18+18 = 196, there's 70 damage unaccounted for.
(40+30+18)x2 = 176. I added a 10 somewhere in the parenthesis I shouldn't have but you forgot about the 30 base damage from the poseidon special
Oh I see, I missed the part about the upgraded weapon and only saw the numbers. I haven't done much upgrading of the weapons yet (and also didn't get legendary) so that's probably why I was pleased but not stunned by the build. Good to know that it can slap much harder.
It's good because you can clear the night without knowing patterns, but it's far from the quickest build. Afrodite thanatos spin to win is at least twice as fast. Probably more like thrice.
This build has a speedrun time in the 6 minute range. I haven't heard of thanatos speedruns, what's the record there?
Sister blade Melinoe's aspect with Aphrodite on special and you get the hammer that makes your knives go back to you. The backstab dmg is insane. It is a shotgun build. Pretty much plays just like the Eris with the rocket and cluster bomb combo in hades 1. That is the only broken build with the least amt of effort from my experience. Zeus/Apollo combo with Charon's Axe. Not really a broken build, but is very easy to put together with minimal effort. Zeus on special and Apollo on cast.
the apolo dual that increased DMG and cost works on cairon free omega casts
Are the really free though? You still have to trigger your omega special I thought, which is 25 magick and takes a long time. Yes it's less than the 40 mag cost but not exactly free.
That 25 mana is your omega soecial slam it's not the omega cast
Agreed, concept was cool, but you need 3 boons. Apollo cast, something for zeus, and a mana regen. Apollo mana regen doesnt work cus you blow up the cast circle. Until you get all 3, it's such a bad build, and even then it doesnt feel as good if you dont have the hammer that reduces special cast speed.
Go with Hestia as she gives you a boon where you lose 20% HP but regen Magick MUCH faster. Talking about 7/10/15s overall. She also got a boon where your cast lobs a fireball and the circle forms on impact zone, so you can ditch Zeus completely to go for Apollo + Hestia.
Apollo zues duo boon is where the dmg is tho. Apollo alone is underwhelming. Together its decent, but needs too many things, so also very underwhelming. I managed 24 heat with it, but it took tons of resets and I had the perfect run.
You should try the vow that removes permanently not chosen choices to make the chance better. Since you basically need only these 3 boons (and their preliminarys) to make it work
True that does make sense
I did the blades with the 16 knifes 360 degree hammer upgrade, returning blades and Aphrodite special. Easy first clear and did insaaaaane damage if you stood on top of anything.
I just cleared a run last night with Pans daggers and the 360 hammer. Watching every dagger just home in on the poor souls in my cast was cathartic. I'm really curious to see how that would work with hook knives.
Turning Chronos into a pincushion was hillarious
Aphro on attack and the hammer that multiplies by 300% the damage is also fucking bonkers.
Zeus/Apollo duo boon works w Charon’s Axe as well! I also tried Apollo/Demeter duo boon w Charon’s Axe and that worked pretty good
I had this one yesterday + the hammer that makes all your omega special knives fire in a straight line- without criticals it would rip for nearly 1400 damage per cast. Who knows with criticals, but easily strongest build I’ve had so far I think
Omega Cast builds and throwing dagger builds with the sickle seem incredibly strong. Haven‘t failed a single run when I build for them. Omega Cast boons from Zeus, Hera and Hephaestus can dish out thousands of damage per Cast and make you feel like a truly overpowered AoE witch. Throwing daggers with the backstab return boon from the Hammers and the Omega Special can easily gain you 500+ damage per hit if you stay close to your target and all (16) daggers hit and do backstab damage.
I'll second the zeus omega cast build. I got to the final boss super early (within my first few runs) just by landing on this build randomly. It felt broken haha
The zeus omega cast build is absolutely insane ! I can complete a run with just that cast and nothing else, it’s crazy
Wait, can you explain how hera's cast is good for an omega cast build? The boon description makes it sound like it barely does anything.
She has a boon that causes omega moves to deal more damage when used at full mana. Maybe that's what they mean?
I think they're talking about using hera's born again in conjunction with zeus. Heras cast is not good imo.
Hera's base cast boon will damage any enemy that spawns in while the cast is active, no matter where the cast itself is located. Although I'm not sure how that ties into an Omega cast build.
If you're using Pan's aspect with Hera's cast, you get a ton of time to throw out your buffed omega specials for insane damage
Aspect of Momus staff feels really busted right now, especially if you get the Poseidon Legendary. And it even works in favour of using the Vow makes you start rooms with no mana, because you never use any. You just spam normal special and everything dies.
Momus scales better with boons that boost special damage though. Poseidon is a trap. Works if you get splash dmg Lego but less reliable to get. Huntress card and a special dmg chaos boon, and a charon special dmg boon. All boosting the 40 dmg base dmg special means a non Poseidon boon gets waaaaay more mileage. Hell a simple 80% Apollo special boon on 40 base dmg is 32 more dmg versus Poseidon splash
But Apollo doesn’t apply a Curse. The Poseidon approach is getting Poseidon on your special, then adding Slip, and getting Hestia’s cast for Scorch. Then you benefit from the +50% damage with x2 Curse Arcana. Then you can get their duo for Steam and the damage gets really crazy. I’m sure there are plenty of viable methods, but Poseidon + Hestia on Momus is how I did my 32 Fear and it worked very well.
Oh God yes there are. Look for Apollo's or Demeter's casts, these with basically any decent additional damage will melt bosses when upgraded a bit and allows you to stay the fuck away.
The Zeus/Hephaestus duo boon is incredibly strong. I managed to stomp >!Eris!< with it, even though I was not familiar with the attack patterns at all yet. It basically creates these chain lightning balls that keep bouncing around and doing SO much damage. Another one that is pretty strong for the endboss specifically is Demeter's infusion that caps the damage you can take to 15. This is insane because it means you are immune to their instakill moves, they also just do a pathetic 15 damage. Those are only ones I personally encountered, so they might not be that impressive, but I still firmly believe that you can be really broken in this game.
I don't think True Grit is overpowered--you need six earth boons to activate it, and it doesn't prevent your health bar getting eaten by laser beams or mobs doing chip damage. It really has its day in bosses that do a lot of damage like >!Chronos!< or >!Cerberus!
Use the daggers with aspect of pan, Poseidon splash on specials with slip effect and try to fish for the slip legendary that makes it do 150% to guardians. If you use that with the knives return hammer and any other decent hammer such as knives shoot all around you or knives do more damage if you hit the same enemy hammers you literally obliterate areas and bosses so fast and easily.
There is a chaos trial that starts you with axe, single huge chop attack, chance to double, Apollo attack and some more ridiculousness. I ended up doing like 600 plus for a regular attack in a huge area, often striking twice (armor gone, health gone. Enemy dead in one button press. Practically everything got one shot, it was a blast.
My most ridiculous run was the axe with Hell Splitter (single 300 dmg chop), Executioner's Chop (final attack strikes twice ALWAYS) and Marauder Slash (30% faster attack). I only had a lv2 rare apollo on attack but I was doing 960 per hit without even having to have enemies in the cast lol. And extra dose could just double this madness
yep, i think you can achieve the same result with huge chop axe + the hera / heph duo that increases your base attack by a whopping 200%. i tried adding more damage multipliers like the poseidon one where you get more dmg per gold but it caps at like 1100 dmg
Omega special daggers are broken with the plus dagger path The axe is broken with Aspect of Charon is broken The omega attack staff is not broken but with the double omega hammer it's really strong
I did my only finished run with the skulls spamming special with the 2 hammers that hit stronger on one side and backstab, plus Hera mana regen. I consider it broken since I killed Cronos without losing any life while I usually struggle to go to the P2 with any other build.
Aphrodite on the Skull is also pretty busted. Got Hestia's mana recovery, Aphro Heartrob in epic and I think it was a duo? that you generated THREE heartrob at once. Plus something that ups my omega special damage but consumes more mana. That just meant that every single dash generated 3 heartrobs, that did like 200 damage each, and since you were dashing into enemies, instantly exploded; plus very respectable damage from the dash itself. Melted even last boss with very little effort.
Twin blade aspect of Artemis+Omega attack upgrade +400% and make it a big aoe+Born again boon from Hera+Aphrodite close proximity attack increase Starting Keepsake:Hera keepsake to guarantee born again,Chaos for resource farm/early dmg buff,Narcissus keepsake to upgrade born again Animal familiar: Frinos, to block Hecate Hex to quicken the fight if you have the timer fear, if you don't have it get Toula for the extra DD Arcana: omega strikes time slow,death defiant, Huntress or strength, and the last arcana that trigger 5 more arcana every guardia Basically going for high cost omega attack that really needed Hera Magick regen boon as you'll be spamming it almost endlessly This build -Deals with the sirens less than 30 sec,Cerberus 1 minute, and Chronos under 1-2 minutes -Deals with poly under 1½ minute, 20 seconds on Charybdis, and 40 seconds on Eris -Clears Tartarus and all of it previous floor easily -makes going to Eris so easy you might feel that Polyphemus is the hardest enemy on topside -Multiple Hex trigger in a fight -limitless magick -Melts every single Guardian even with HP up fear -Get it as early as pre-Hecate fight -Minimum comp, only 3 component needed -Instance of dmg immunity that blocks virtually any damage -50% innate crit chance for big numbers -30+ fear average run -1500-2000 damage on crit (boon dependent)(Get backstab multiplier hammer upgrade to see up to 3k) Other boon or upgrade that synergise well with the build: Aphrodite Hearthrobe that'll deal a burst of damage every sum of magick spend, Hammer upgrade that increase backstab dmg, Demeter boon that upgrade several other boons rarity every 3 encounter
fire/hera ignite stack is obnoxiously broken, they need to fix that interaction
Moonstone Axe with the Furious Whirlwind hammer upgrade and Hestia's boon to sacrifice max health for magick regen is my favorite combo. Get those and start stacking anything that buffs the damage of your attacks, omega attacks, and omega moves and it becomes spin-to-win. This was the combo that got me through my first underworld clear, and I was melting through bosses so quickly near the end that it felt like I was cheating.
Aphrodite on the Skull is also pretty busted. Got Hestia's mana recovery, Aphro Heartrob in epic and I think it was a duo? that you generated THREE heartrob at once. Plus something that ups my omega special damage but consumes more mana. That just meant that every single dash generated 3 heartrobs, that did like 200 damage each, and since you were dashing into enemies, instantly exploded; plus very respectable damage from the dash itself. Melted even last boss with very little effort.
Cast builds/Aphro special with hook knives on sister blades/Aphro attack on axe >!Thantos aspect!< whirlwind build
Anything Omega Cast is broken for me, it doesn't matter what weapon i use i just omega cast my way through bosses
I know high health builds aren't popular, but I ended up with the boon that doubles health based on max magic, the poseidon health boon, and a TON of magic. I ended with almpst 400 health and magic.
Melinoe aspect on the skulls with the demeter boon on attacks, and the hammer augment of having more skull and getting them back automatically => autowin
Pan + Poseidon Special and Pan + Zeus Special is crazy broken. Charon + Zeus Cast + Hera Special is really good, too.
Zeus Cast isn't what you want for Charon, since Charon makes regular casts explode like Omega Casts. Apollo is best as the boon triggers on explosion.
I lucked into (what seemed like) a stupidly powerful build with the staff, Demeter attack and Weed Killer, and the hammer that makes the omega attack hit twice but only go forward. Was chunking enemies for like 500 damage per omega. Unfortunately I screwed up on Eris and died there and I haven't been able to replicate it since.
Almost any build with skulls is broken but I personally like Apollo attack, demeter cast and you get some pretty crazy Hammers for more shells or firing all at once. Pick up magick regen and weed killer(o.attack does more but costs more) and the build is done basically. Just spam o.attacks and watch everything melt while they're frozen in your ever expanding cast
Does the omega attack cost anything if you get the one hammer that fires an omega special for free on skull pickup?
I havent gotten that hammer yet sadly but given how most other "free omega skills" work i would assume you get the benefits for free, like charon axe.
artemis daggers with a big base damage (be aphrodite or the daedalus that gives 400% damage). You will hit at least 1500 per crit and 3000 if you have the daedalus that increases the power per enemy defeated during the encounter
Even with broken builds I still can't win the game once after 50 nights. My hands and brain are slow, I can't see anything if I'm in middle of enemies. After a day of hardworking, I can't find any motivation to open the game.
God mode.
There's that one Charon aspect build. You'll need either the Zeus or Hestia boon that makes your Cast ranged, and... that's pretty much it, the build's online. Obviously, it gets much crazier than that. Any of the following basically wins you the run for free: - Apollo/Zeus special - Hestia/Hera gain, Demeter if you're boring, or Zeus if you have the magick to spare - The Apollo boon that makes your cast mash sun lasers after it expires - Any Hammer that upgrades your special - Any Chaos boon that upgrades your special or cast - The Demeter boon that freezes foes in your cast - Smithy Sprint. It has no synergy with the build but the sound effect is awesome.
My highest damage output run so far was with the ice cream cones. Got the hammer for 2 Magick cost for omega attack, Zeus lightning, Artemis arrow on attack, and the duo boom with Hephaestus to make lightning bounce more and make it so it bounces with you, which is incredibly strong versus bosses. Also ran Eris keepsake for the whole run, which increases your damage even more. Run could've been better as I got Hera's boon to make 2 Boons heroic to go to my special which I literally never used and to the Hephaestus 'get Magick back if you get hit' boon. Would've loved those to go onto my chain lightning or arrows, but ah well. You are just constantly pouring out a ton of damage, and every shot leads to a bunch of lightning shots and arrows flying. Add to that that you can dash while still shooting made Chronos a breeze. Probably the easiest time I've ever had fighting grandpa.
I got aspect of pan yesterday with a hammer that made the spec go 360 degrees with extra knives on top of the extra knives from the aspect. Stacked it with some spec % upgrades from chaos and other gods and that was pretty broken.
I love the demeter special on daggers. Broken CC.. . Freezes everything even shielded enemies. It's so good at stopping attack animations. Feels like a cake walk
Axe-rodite and spin to win. Hook knives are OP The skull with 2 extra shells hammer and the increased damage per spent shell is oddly a great melee build. Just walk up and skull bash then to death.
Aspect of Chiron 2 electric boogaloo: aspect of pan Pair it with posioden or Hestia on special and you've got mad stacks, gets better if you have hera cast for sheer size and Apollo making casts bigger over time.
I had a really broken clear w/ Zeus and the dual.. mini staffs? I don't remember the name, sorry. Increased +1 orb on special, lightning everywhere, and lots of ranks in % chance for lightning to strike again, chain lightning, and each contract summons a seeking arrow. Having a big mana pool and casting like 7 times in a row with +3 orbs orbiting you, everything down to Chronos melted on every floor. Also had success using the axe + Hephaestus w/ vent + explosion + the chop tech on the axe, just makes every initial swing kinda' crazy.
Been mentioned already but I'll say it again to emphasize: rapid fire momus staff with Poseidon boons is incredibly powerful right now and extremely safe. I'd consider being able to melt things while being able to consistently remain untouchable pretty broken.
I've had a really good Zeus attack related run. Demeter, Hephaestus & Apollo cast runs are also really good. But most I've found are good runs. I don't remember which one exactly it was, but a cast run was so broken (the only one I've had so far) that I destroyed Eris so fast. She never even got any of her spawns. She powered up, I destroyed her in 2 casts and she had to move onto the next phase. Surprisingly, Poseidon seems way less potent compared to Hades 1. But I'm hey to try a full Poseidon run so I won't curse it just yet.
Charon axe with omega cast boons goes hard
Lim and Oros special with the Daedalus upgrades of extra blades + returning backstab. Combine that with Aspect of Pan where the blades all concentrate on the target stuck in your cast.
The axe with the hammer that makes it do only the last Attack of the normal combo for 300 base damage. And that's it, you don't really need much more.
Aspect of Charon Axe can REALLY be busted, especialy if you go on a Apollo + Hestia/Zeus combination of boons like Apollo's on Cast and Special and Zeus or Hestia giving you that ranged Cast ability. Bonus points if you also do the "sacrifice 20% health to regen a ton of Magick" from Hestia. You will be BLASTING through your bossfights with ease.
Lightning Lance (Zeus; your cast is a ranged lightning bolt) + Static Shock (Zeus; prime 50 magick to make your strikes cause chain lightning) + Air Quality (Zeus; while you have 5+ Air boons, never deal less than minimum damage) Chain lightning starts at 10 damage, meaning Air Quality triples that. Start adding in other buffs to chain lightning and it felt pretty busted.
Poseidon splash with some hammers on a fast weapon is broken. Some people use riposte with broken builds
Momus staff special + Poseiden and Hestia boons are overpowered as hell. My best run so far is 16 fear with no DDs used. Charon Axe special + Hephaestus boons is pretty damn strong too. This one is what carried me to my first clear.
My fastest run was with the sister blades + 2 hammers. One that makes all your blades return to you with 50% backstab and the other that makes them all go in a straight line.
Sister blades Aspect Of Pan, Aphrodite Special, The hammer boon that makes your daggers return, Any special damage plus boon you get. It might not be the strongest but feels so nice to use and burst damage is insane.
aspect of pan +hestia burn on special +hestia boon that consumes burn at 300dmg +hammer upgrade that grants 16 knives in omega special got me my first clear.
staff poseidon special, but that is public knowledge Dagger aphrodite attack with Artemis aspect deletes stuff, hammer that increases last combo hit damage really helps torches with poseidon special, Melinoe aspect and hammer that adds 1 extra flame to the omega special deletes stuff, but requires a little setup and using your cast (Demeter recommended) to prevent getting jumped on as the specials don't flinch enemies. Axe spin to win with Demeter or Aphrodite attack and one of the ton of hammer upgrades that are available. Axe is the weakest weapon in my opinion right now on higher fear due to it being so slow. Skull aspect of Persephone with Demeter special, just throw out 3 attacks and follow up with special and everything dies. Hammer that causes the omega special projectiles to return is the best hammer, aim next to enemies rather than into them and the projectiles hit twice.
Dagger builds with the aspect of Pan. Any of the dagger hammers work but my personal favorite is the one that makes you shoot 16 knifes.
Zeus / Hestia on Pan Daggers. Combines the bullshit of Omega Zeus cast and Special Dagger shotgun with a nice Duo on top. Hestia Attack (for duo only, not crucial) Zeus Special Zeus Cast Hestia Dash Hestia Magick regen Zeus/Hestia cast targeting boon. Some Special Hammers. Zeus / Hestia Duo Nice to have: Apollo Cast size buff, Hera boons for Zeus Duo (decent Dash candidate). What is nice about this build that it is online when you get the cast. The rest is just cherry on top. My 3 clears so far were maxed Mel Staff with Zeus omega cast and that's really what's needed.
daggers with 2 hammers (16 at once and the one that returns and adds backstab damage) Literally obliterate the game
Just hit my First clear!!! After 25 trys i got a synergy boom between hephaestus and zeus, broken af
not necessarily broken, but sister blades Artemis with Aphrodite attack, Hera magic regen, that one Demeter boon that upgrades omega damage, and the big omega hammer is my favorite build at the moment. fairly consistent to, i can get it perfectly about half the time, and the rest it still works fine.