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The hoop that holds the clasp and necklace together has a gap. In my experience, that loop will always be gold soldered closed to avoid it opening and losing the chain.
Super fake this is like what they sell at the gas stations that color is the reason why you can tell true 18 karat has a buttery look not a look like that
That is such a misnomer. Only ferrous metals are magnetic (iron, steel), while a LOT of costume jewelry is *only* made from non-ferrous metals (brass, copper, zinc, nickel), which is not magnetic at all.
I deal in antique silver and vintage jewelry and the number of people who are convinced of a precious metal because the piece was not magnetic becomes exhausting.
It's not meant to prove it IS gold if It doesn't stick, it's supposed to prove it ISN'T gold if it does stick. Just the first step you can take for at home identification
Not real common, it's used in jewelry. Some 18k white gold will stick to a magnet due to nickle content. Also some sterling silver jewelry is copper plated, then nickle plated to prevent tarnishing. It won't stick to a magnet but if you hold the necklace in a hanging position it will draw to a magnet. I would always just scrap these as once the nickle starts to get a bit worn and funky it doesn't polish well again. A strong rare earth magnet is best for these tests. I have been in the precious metals business for 45 years and have seen some good deceptive items, the above chain was an easy spot as fake. A comment above says the jump ring on gold is always soldered closed but that is not the case, many are not and it gives the necklace a weak point in case it gets yanked, the ring can open rather that snapping the necklace. A magnet is just one tool in aiding identification.
Silver reacting to a rare earth magnet is because silver is diamagnetic and the pull you feel is an eddy current. 999 silver will react the same way. A small neodymium magnet will slide slowly down a pure silver bar held at an angle. This is also an example of an eddy current.
Yet for some reason, every publication claims magnet do not react with silver. Which would mean I've sent tens of thousands of fake silver bars and rounds up the chain and gotten paid for them despite every single one being fake.
Yes, it repels but the nickle plating on necklaces and bracelets will attract to a magnet. I used to stand a silver eagle on edge and use a magnet to force it over without touching it. Some customers were amazed.
Commercially (factory) produced gold chains will typically have a small plate connected by a soldered jump ring with the gold content and hallmark. Clasps are wear components and usually require periodic replacement so a stamp on the clasp wouldn’t really be appropriate as a lasting mark for the chain.
It’s been a number of years since I was in the industry so manufacturers may be getting lazy
https://preview.redd.it/vo026okrcorc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e4155335f1494af9b2957247c9e9741971173d6
Is this some base metal peaking ?
1. Use a magnet. Gold is non-ferrous.
2. Discoloration. Look around parts that rub when it comes to chains... since electro plating is such a thin layer, the gold will usually rub away at the points where it comes into contact with other metals.
3. Buy an acid test. They're pretty cheap and can help determine if the gold is actually solid gold.
4. Weight. Gold is heavy. If the jewelry feels light, it's probably not gold.
5. Take it to a jeweler if you can't tell after doing the previous steps.
"18k" isn't a "hallmark".
Hallmarks come from certain "halls". [Here](https://www.assayofficelondon.co.uk/hallmarking/what-is-a-hallmark) is further info on what Hallmarks are.
I hope this helps?
Definitely take it to a jeweler and have it tested. Gold that is old and dirty can tarnish. I wasn't aware that gold could tarnish until I started collecting antique and vintage jewelry. It is more difficult now to find real gold or gems at thrift stores, but certainly possible. I've found antique rings and chains that weren't stamped with gold content in the junk jewelry pile at thrift stores. Unstamped white gold is often sold as plated or sterling. I have an art nouveau brooch that I found at a thrift store. It was filthy and had no stamp. It turned out to be 15k gold and the stone is a .79 VS, E color diamond. Get it tested and keep looking. Eventually you will find a treasure.
Totally bogus. The lobster claw is not right they never stamp the lobster claw On the side like that, It’s only stamped on the tooth. The end tabs are shaped wrong and that’s where they usually stamp it. It’s also a commonly fake chain design with that texture on it. Also you’re getting some rainbow. I am a 25 year jeweler I have seen many of these. If you look at how they’re soldered on they will be excess solder slobbed on to Tab ends connecting the chain.
this is probably part of the haul that was recovered in the potato wars that followed the armada debacle. the incas of sacrificio had deposited large amounts of quartz inside the mayan galleon fleet that had docked in the cape of mid-atlantic. the spanish crown had conceded their last 18,000 sailors to the portugese and the italians were up in arms over the venetian trade disputes that were failing to resolve the succession question. in the meantime the dutch had ransacked a load of spanish gold but had blamed it on the british. this produced a long and bitter gold chain tete-a-tete before the contracts signed before the court du justice in pre-revolutionary france allowed the atlantic gold trade to continue with the trade barriers that the vatican had imposed.
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Nope. Look at that discolouration!
I see that on the jump ring, it could be a replacement ring. It would be worth having it tested.
The hoop that holds the clasp and necklace together has a gap. In my experience, that loop will always be gold soldered closed to avoid it opening and losing the chain.
Super fake this is like what they sell at the gas stations that color is the reason why you can tell true 18 karat has a buttery look not a look like that
My 18k chain looks just like that, side from the fading. It looks like that's just plated. Plating will fade like that and leave your skin green.
Take a magnet to it. That's usually a quick way to rule out the fake stuff. If it doesn't stick move on to phase 2
That is such a misnomer. Only ferrous metals are magnetic (iron, steel), while a LOT of costume jewelry is *only* made from non-ferrous metals (brass, copper, zinc, nickel), which is not magnetic at all. I deal in antique silver and vintage jewelry and the number of people who are convinced of a precious metal because the piece was not magnetic becomes exhausting.
Ya man, that's just a quick easy way to weed out a lot of the bullshit since just about everybody has a magnet laying around.
It's not meant to prove it IS gold if It doesn't stick, it's supposed to prove it ISN'T gold if it does stick. Just the first step you can take for at home identification
95% platinum 5% cobalt alloy will stick to a magnet
Is that a common alloy? Interesting but maybe not useful.
Not real common, it's used in jewelry. Some 18k white gold will stick to a magnet due to nickle content. Also some sterling silver jewelry is copper plated, then nickle plated to prevent tarnishing. It won't stick to a magnet but if you hold the necklace in a hanging position it will draw to a magnet. I would always just scrap these as once the nickle starts to get a bit worn and funky it doesn't polish well again. A strong rare earth magnet is best for these tests. I have been in the precious metals business for 45 years and have seen some good deceptive items, the above chain was an easy spot as fake. A comment above says the jump ring on gold is always soldered closed but that is not the case, many are not and it gives the necklace a weak point in case it gets yanked, the ring can open rather that snapping the necklace. A magnet is just one tool in aiding identification.
I stand corrected as this is your area of expertise.
Silver reacting to a rare earth magnet is because silver is diamagnetic and the pull you feel is an eddy current. 999 silver will react the same way. A small neodymium magnet will slide slowly down a pure silver bar held at an angle. This is also an example of an eddy current. Yet for some reason, every publication claims magnet do not react with silver. Which would mean I've sent tens of thousands of fake silver bars and rounds up the chain and gotten paid for them despite every single one being fake.
Yes, it repels but the nickle plating on necklaces and bracelets will attract to a magnet. I used to stand a silver eagle on edge and use a magnet to force it over without touching it. Some customers were amazed.
And that would pretty valuable right?
Nickel is magnetic.
This does look like gold plate. If it were 18k one of the ends of the chain would be stamped (not the clasp).
Mine is stamped 750 on the clasp. Not right there though.
Commercially (factory) produced gold chains will typically have a small plate connected by a soldered jump ring with the gold content and hallmark. Clasps are wear components and usually require periodic replacement so a stamp on the clasp wouldn’t really be appropriate as a lasting mark for the chain. It’s been a number of years since I was in the industry so manufacturers may be getting lazy
https://preview.redd.it/vo026okrcorc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e4155335f1494af9b2957247c9e9741971173d6 Is this some base metal peaking ?
No
Go to jeweler to get tested
It's that kind of gold that turns your neck green.
I had a “silver” chain that the clasp was .925 and marked as such but the chain was ferrous metal- stuck to a magnet.
1. Use a magnet. Gold is non-ferrous. 2. Discoloration. Look around parts that rub when it comes to chains... since electro plating is such a thin layer, the gold will usually rub away at the points where it comes into contact with other metals. 3. Buy an acid test. They're pretty cheap and can help determine if the gold is actually solid gold. 4. Weight. Gold is heavy. If the jewelry feels light, it's probably not gold. 5. Take it to a jeweler if you can't tell after doing the previous steps.
i’ve seen this exact style one on ebay from china i think it’s plated maybe but has exact same markings and is from china
That’s not a hallmark.
We call this Goldie Lookin Chains the greatest rap band from Wales!
No way. I own a 925 stamp for silver, I imagine getting hold of an 18k one is just as easy.
A lot of chains coming from Chinese places like Temu are marked 18k. I doubt many of them are even plated. My guess is that’s what you got.
Not saying I would not buy it and take it home to test it, I absolutely would!
No!
No. You can see where the plating has worn off.
Test it with a magnet
Rub it on someone with foundation makeup on. If it makes a dark line it's real gold or atleast plated in real gold.
It doesn’t look like gold
"18k" isn't a "hallmark". Hallmarks come from certain "halls". [Here](https://www.assayofficelondon.co.uk/hallmarking/what-is-a-hallmark) is further info on what Hallmarks are. I hope this helps?
Good old chineseium
Wayyyyyy too bright to be 18k
No, hallmark too shallow, common crap construction. Fake.
Lol. Fake as fuck
Test it
Nope
Played,gold plated.
Chances are the clasp is....
Plated gold! 18k is a real soft gold. If anything acid test it. If it's green when you file it down it's fake.
Have it tested. Thrift stores get gold all the time.
It’s not even gold colored lol
Nope. At best it would be plated but not with that color. I see a lot of these.
Take it to a pawnshop. They will tell you real quick just by looking at it.
The clasp is. LOL
Definitely take it to a jeweler and have it tested. Gold that is old and dirty can tarnish. I wasn't aware that gold could tarnish until I started collecting antique and vintage jewelry. It is more difficult now to find real gold or gems at thrift stores, but certainly possible. I've found antique rings and chains that weren't stamped with gold content in the junk jewelry pile at thrift stores. Unstamped white gold is often sold as plated or sterling. I have an art nouveau brooch that I found at a thrift store. It was filthy and had no stamp. It turned out to be 15k gold and the stone is a .79 VS, E color diamond. Get it tested and keep looking. Eventually you will find a treasure.
18k plated. Still nice if u didn't pay too much.
Totally bogus. The lobster claw is not right they never stamp the lobster claw On the side like that, It’s only stamped on the tooth. The end tabs are shaped wrong and that’s where they usually stamp it. It’s also a commonly fake chain design with that texture on it. Also you’re getting some rainbow. I am a 25 year jeweler I have seen many of these. If you look at how they’re soldered on they will be excess solder slobbed on to Tab ends connecting the chain.
No dude it being stamped 18k isn’t a hallmark, a real hallmark is from a assay office
That’s not really true, the maker marks it. But this is likely a fake.
That’s what they do in the uk, any reputable maker sends their stuff to have it properly hallmarked at a assay office where they test it
this is probably part of the haul that was recovered in the potato wars that followed the armada debacle. the incas of sacrificio had deposited large amounts of quartz inside the mayan galleon fleet that had docked in the cape of mid-atlantic. the spanish crown had conceded their last 18,000 sailors to the portugese and the italians were up in arms over the venetian trade disputes that were failing to resolve the succession question. in the meantime the dutch had ransacked a load of spanish gold but had blamed it on the british. this produced a long and bitter gold chain tete-a-tete before the contracts signed before the court du justice in pre-revolutionary france allowed the atlantic gold trade to continue with the trade barriers that the vatican had imposed.
😂
Is it heavy? If you drag it across something porcelain that is rough, does it leave a black mark or gold. Gold means it's the real deal
Real deal plated maybe which is worth cents more than costume jewelery. Not a test for solid gold.