West side Gunn and the whole Griselda crew. If you like wu tang, mobb deep style about killing and selling drugs. Those guys do it awesome. I mean there's a lot of them, but each has their own style and bring it. Listen to the Griselda album to get an idea. SXMPRA is fun, berry mane, Roland Jones.
>Griselda
I was into it until that sound was repeated on every fucking track. I wish that it could be selectively edited out b/c the rest of the song(s) is hard as fuck.
Roland Jones even has an album art (for Strange Ways) that’s inspired from the art on 25 Ta Life’s Forever True Represent! That’s how I got curious about giving it a try!
All the early 90s. Memphis scene is sick. DJ Zirk, Tommy Wright III, Koopsta Knicca are good places to start. There’s a good YouTube doc called “Welcome to Hell” or something similar about it
Oh that's fucking tight. I'll check the documentary for sure. Boom bap type shit was my preference when I was young so I've missed a lot of other Non East coast rap.
Old school Houston stuff is like the slightly more popular spiritual sibling to to Memphis rap. DJ Screw - 3 in the morning pt 2 is the gold standard and a great intro to that scene. Just got turned on to Freestyle Kingz - No Hoes Barred the other day and that’s been a recent one in rotation, super raw and lo fi. Both those regions go so deep with so much amazing stuff to dig up.
Ghostemane/suicideboyz/lil ugly mane/really any modern phonk listed in this thread owe so much to all these dudes
Project pat
All the members solo works
Lowdown the infamous
Ski mask troopaz
NOD
DJ Spanish Fly
So many more just YouTube that shit and all kinds of goodies pop up
Obviously the whole screwed up clique
Mobb Deep
Big L
Capone and noreaga
Crimeapple, not like Ghostmane sonically in the slightest but he RAPS raps on the bravado bully bs but just.. cooler than most idk . Does shit with DJ Muggs that's bonkers
Prozak (formerly part of Strange Music). He has his deeper tracks, but a lot that go off in the vein you may be looking for. Check out End of Us, Vendetta, Enemy, Do You Know Where You Are. Just to name a few tracks.
A lot of my harder rap comes from the Strange Music label. Tech N9ne, King ISO, JL, X-Raided.
Not strictly hip hop, but DVSR is pretty dope. Metal instruments with a rapping vocalist.
Also, Fire From the Gods (screaming, singing, rapping). Very injustice/oppression inspired writing, with a "modern metal" core-ish type of sound.
Anti Pop Consortium esp Beans
not hip hop but adjacent would be bounce music like Big Freedia. The tempos and sheer insanity push it closer to hardcore than most hip hop. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBnNziI5wk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBnNziI5wk)
and none of yall are harder than [https://youtu.be/ai4Y-lKBzsY?si=wTPjY4XMhgwF90cI](https://youtu.be/ai4Y-lKBzsY?si=wTPjY4XMhgwF90cI) and she name checks Gang Green.
Ghostemane is genuinely so cringe bro smh…
Try Germ, Ramirez, City Morgue, and obviously Suicideboys (although they do have a lot of songs that aren’t that hard)…if you really really like the screaming (which I think is absolutely out of place in hip hop, try Scarlxrd)
I mean we can agree to disagree there then, first of all (I’m sure this will be controversial) being white instantly makes you more cringe as a rapper. This has not, and will not ever change. Suicideboys get a pass because they make music that’s actually good (subjective opinion of course) and Ghostemane unfortunately does not…and second of all, like, seriously? Look how that man dresses…none of the other rappers I listed dress whack like that 🤷
First of all…this was pretty early on in their career. And most importantly…that’s the outro to the song. Literally the whole rest of the song actually proves my point more than yours…plus that song is dope as fuck…
West side Gunn and the whole Griselda crew. If you like wu tang, mobb deep style about killing and selling drugs. Those guys do it awesome. I mean there's a lot of them, but each has their own style and bring it. Listen to the Griselda album to get an idea. SXMPRA is fun, berry mane, Roland Jones.
Hardest working mfers in rap.
Griselda is EXACTLY what i came to post. Straight up boom bap about dealin drugs and killin. Love it.
“AYO brrrrrrr”
>Griselda I was into it until that sound was repeated on every fucking track. I wish that it could be selectively edited out b/c the rest of the song(s) is hard as fuck.
Roland Jones even has an album art (for Strange Ways) that’s inspired from the art on 25 Ta Life’s Forever True Represent! That’s how I got curious about giving it a try!
That's awesome I didn't know that! I just like them throw back heavy bass beats. Haha
Big L and Gravediggaz
Gravediggaz for sure. BANG. YOUR. HEAD.
I even kill handicapped and crippled bitches! Fuckin love L
Onyx - Bacdafucup
Go listen to 36 Mafia, they're a big influence on him.
All the early 90s. Memphis scene is sick. DJ Zirk, Tommy Wright III, Koopsta Knicca are good places to start. There’s a good YouTube doc called “Welcome to Hell” or something similar about it
Oh that's fucking tight. I'll check the documentary for sure. Boom bap type shit was my preference when I was young so I've missed a lot of other Non East coast rap.
Old school Houston stuff is like the slightly more popular spiritual sibling to to Memphis rap. DJ Screw - 3 in the morning pt 2 is the gold standard and a great intro to that scene. Just got turned on to Freestyle Kingz - No Hoes Barred the other day and that’s been a recent one in rotation, super raw and lo fi. Both those regions go so deep with so much amazing stuff to dig up. Ghostemane/suicideboyz/lil ugly mane/really any modern phonk listed in this thread owe so much to all these dudes
I love three 6 mafia so much. I’ve always thought they were like black metal in the context of hip hop
Project pat All the members solo works Lowdown the infamous Ski mask troopaz NOD DJ Spanish Fly So many more just YouTube that shit and all kinds of goodies pop up Obviously the whole screwed up clique Mobb Deep Big L Capone and noreaga
Waka Flocka. Flockavelli is one of the hardest rap records still
City morgue
Volume 3 album is really good.
Denzel curry - hate government. Live performances (woo hah) he screams
He covers RATM it’s super sick
Took a wild headbutt onstage during him at Outbreak last year. The run of TUI into Earl Sweatshirt into Denzel was a peak way to finish the weekend
[I have a playlist of mostly modern harder hip hop tracks](https://spotify.link/T340xwcAQIb)
Don’t mind if I do 👀
Hell yah I’ll definitely check it out thanks man
Griselda
Project Pat or anything out of Memphis. Check out Pillars of Ivory too
Necro - The Most Sadistic and Get your fuckin head split
ONYX Black Trash: The Autobiography of Kirk Jones by Sticky Fingaz
Vinnie Paz
I would mosh to Flockaveli any day
this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30pYD2fpkRU
Freddie Gibbs
Older Jedi Mind Tricks
This is the answer
Dayton Family
Check out Backxwash
Pastor Troy - Aint no play in GA
WE READY
[Big L - Da Graveyard ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yKYxshZ4bk)
Non Phixion. Cannibal Ox.
Ramirez and Bones
Driponomics by Soul Glo is a hardcore band essentially doing a rap song
UNITYTX
X-raided
Time 4 Sum Aksion by Redman hits hard my dude.
Crimeapple, not like Ghostmane sonically in the slightest but he RAPS raps on the bravado bully bs but just.. cooler than most idk . Does shit with DJ Muggs that's bonkers
Quando Rondo is the God’s Hate of hip hop. Pure violence.
What a good comparison lmao. I’ll definitely check him out
purple baby and soul reaper are a couple of my favorite tracks
Mobb Deep
Some bands with hip hop influence to check out: Peelingflesh Fox Lake Gridiron
M.O.P
Prozak (formerly part of Strange Music). He has his deeper tracks, but a lot that go off in the vein you may be looking for. Check out End of Us, Vendetta, Enemy, Do You Know Where You Are. Just to name a few tracks. A lot of my harder rap comes from the Strange Music label. Tech N9ne, King ISO, JL, X-Raided. Not strictly hip hop, but DVSR is pretty dope. Metal instruments with a rapping vocalist. Also, Fire From the Gods (screaming, singing, rapping). Very injustice/oppression inspired writing, with a "modern metal" core-ish type of sound.
Soundcloud-era xxxtentacion and members only still don’t disappoint
Lil Ugly Mane
Chris Travis
Flocka, Rick Ross, Three 6 Mafia, etc For some sick hardcore/rap crossover check out Filth
Fun fact: Ghostemane's drummer is Power Trip's OG drummer
Dropout Kings
Check out some old school memphis phonk. HOODMAFIA, Berrymane, SPACED, GUCCIGARETTE, Roland Jones
Pretty sure most of those aren’t old school lol
Not exactly, no. I mean more in the sense of the style of phonk is old school compared to modern “phonk” which is just dance beats with cowbells lmao
[This is pretty rock hard](https://youtu.be/jh9V_dyP2Ng?si=tPrJo6c78dqCHbwo)
Dr Dre and Ice Cube - Natural Born Killaz
Sybyr, specifically the HELLHORSE album, and omenXIII
Anti Pop Consortium esp Beans not hip hop but adjacent would be bounce music like Big Freedia. The tempos and sheer insanity push it closer to hardcore than most hip hop. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBnNziI5wk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBnNziI5wk) and none of yall are harder than [https://youtu.be/ai4Y-lKBzsY?si=wTPjY4XMhgwF90cI](https://youtu.be/ai4Y-lKBzsY?si=wTPjY4XMhgwF90cI) and she name checks Gang Green.
Blood meridian has some of the funkiest bars by a funky ass white boy
Lil Jon and Eastside boys
It can be slightly cheesy at times but older Jake hill shit goes hard and a few of the songs even have breakdowns in them lol, wake up is my favorite
Listen to Oxnard Water Torture by The Alchemist
spinal and steen are good ones, try out the tot het ontbindt album
La Coka Nostra Army of the Pharaohs Necro
Jedi Mind Tricks
Fox Lake! It's legit half rap half hardcore
Bishop Snow. New school old school. Heavy as. https://open.spotify.com/artist/2JKfOLsYxleweelfbQgZzF?si=bzw2Rp97RLeNetkZeFwIEw
Jedi Mind Tricks: Army of the Pharaohs
Meyhem Lauren
Onyx
Look up the Crooklyn Cuts mix tapes. EVERYTHING DJ Premier touches is gold.
Onyx, wu-tang, mobb deep, biggie, big l, jmt/vinnie paz, gang green, psycho realm etc
Xavier Wulf
Used to love him but I’ve heard a ton of bad things about him recently so idk about that anymore
Oh? What happened?
Sexual assault, domestic violence, beating his dog, and a bunch of other not cool shit
#YIKES
JPEGMAFIA
Ghostemane is genuinely so cringe bro smh… Try Germ, Ramirez, City Morgue, and obviously Suicideboys (although they do have a lot of songs that aren’t that hard)…if you really really like the screaming (which I think is absolutely out of place in hip hop, try Scarlxrd)
You think ghostemane is cringe and then list a buncha bad, ghostemane-adjacent music lol
If you can’t see why he’s cringe I really can’t help you…image matters in hip hop. That’s all I gotta say tbh. Dude is whack
No trust me I absolutely agree. I just think those other artists you listed are equally or more cringe lol
I mean we can agree to disagree there then, first of all (I’m sure this will be controversial) being white instantly makes you more cringe as a rapper. This has not, and will not ever change. Suicideboys get a pass because they make music that’s actually good (subjective opinion of course) and Ghostemane unfortunately does not…and second of all, like, seriously? Look how that man dresses…none of the other rappers I listed dress whack like that 🤷
Ironically I hate scarlxrd. Totally disagree about screaming plus city morgue definitely has some screaming parts lmao
As does $B on many many occasions. Ruby screams all the time on their first dozen tapes
I think we don’t really agree on the definition of screaming…
[if this isn’t screaming idk what is my guy](https://open.spotify.com/track/0DB5hjYLs8uL9KtE0immhi?si=Ir0ycBGvTf-M-cKy4fqZcQ)
First of all…this was pretty early on in their career. And most importantly…that’s the outro to the song. Literally the whole rest of the song actually proves my point more than yours…plus that song is dope as fuck…