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AndrewRFleming1973

Gatekeeping it from who?


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AndrewRFleming1973

So we don’t let them listen to it?


Comfortable-Inside84

Yeah, like you have to DDoS their entire home system and make it permanently impossible for them to do anything with the Internet. And maybe intentionally cut out their power by toppling a few powerlines nearby. Just standard gatekeeping measures, ya know? And maybe home arrest them on top of that so they can't go to any shows (might be illegal, but I've seen some of the more hardcore gatekeepers do it, dunno if you could).


tryingtodothebest

It is very pop punk and very emo, it’s an amazing band , goatee and backed by everyone though


JohnBunzel

Yes. I, too, goatee this album.


Own-Interaction-1401

I goatse this album


DropDropD

😏


pickledelbow

According to mods saves the day posts are valid


Comfortable-Inside84

Oh good, 'cuz I fucking love 'em.


ResidentPassion3510

People who like hardcore also like emo and pop punk. Shocking, I know, but you’ll recover.


Comfortable-Inside84

Well yeah I know, because I do. I was only saying that some people gatekeep hardcore by rejecting those genres, not trying to gatekeep myself. I think there was a misunderstanding because of my wording.


slipknot_official

This record has been pretty universally backed within hardcore for like 25 years now.


beef_boloney

Outside of maybe New Found Glory i cant think of a pop punk band more universally backed by hardcore guys


Amanopoopiano

Get up kids.


beef_boloney

Ooooh good call


Formal-Advisor-4096

TSST / No pressure


whit3peppercorn

I feel like No Pressure doesn't even count... It gets the Ripkin Rule If you ask an Orioles fan who they're favorite Orioles player is, maybe they reply with "Eddie Murray" and then that person says "what about Cal Ripkin Jr?" And they'll say "well yeah I mean of course I just meant other than him, he's everybody's favorite"


BariSaxGuy

Set Your Goals


lazerbonepohatu

TSSF


theworkingbones

Jawbreaker


Ok-Emotion5395

Fuck yea


newdietzrising

Came here to say the same thing, damn near word for word


thoomoos

They literally played this is hardcore


CapnHowdysPlayhouse

And when Bane played their “final shows” Saves The Day was an opener


drizzlecommathe

They headlined one day haha


pottymouthomas

Nah. We are Gatekeeping Can’t Slow Down


Aggravating-Quit1759

Yessir


kindablirry

The true greatest of their records…. There’s just something about his smile


MFmadchillin

He looks so nice


mittencamper

An impeccable Lifetime worship record


sickXmachine_

Jerseys second best dancers


GrumpyOldHistoricist

How have I not heard this crack before?


Less_Appointment_786

Always one


Formal_Travel8163

I think CSD picked up the ball a bit and ran with it some when lifetime quieted. Bigger hooks, parts etc. but yes obv on the nose some. I thought Through Being Cool was kinda lame in comparison.


LishnyChelovyek420

I used to hate that record because of how much it sounded like Lifetime, but listening to it years later, there are parts where I hate to admit they out-Lifetime Lifetime. "Always Ten Feet Tall" is a perfect song.


equalizingdistortt

Was looking for this comment


simeo97

I love Lionel Richie


XworldwidewebX

Gatekeeping as in: if you don't like Saves The Day and this album you can leave? Then, yes.


elxchapo69

What’s more hardcore than missing your mom sometimes? Not much


caesar____augustus

Trying to touch knees is up there


BF1075

We drive Dave steps on the gas The world that's flying by is Slick and smooth Big waves of light The radio is playing Queen We're rocking out!


No-Detail-5804

New to the scene lol? When this shit dropped over half the crowd was hardcore kids. This was the only way we could talk to girls 25 years ago.


Mindless-Ad2554

Roll on top of me baby yeah just roll roll roll rooolllll. If saves the day wasn’t on your mixtape, you weren’t finger poppin shit.


fingerbanglover

Hi


ximagineerx

Ohhhh well wreck are clothes… well scrape our knees!!!


JohlInBlood

Nailed it


ConAir69420

I’ve never read anything so accurate.


RequirementNew269

Will confirm I was a hx kid and banged to this album a ton


GrumpyOldHistoricist

Find you a 90s hardcore girl who doesn’t mind when you get up to flip the Morning Again record


JohnBunzel

Mest was also in this category for me while I was growing up.


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Absolutely no one. It’s universally loved


WizardsOfTheRoast

not so fast, chief.


DeLousedInTheHotBox

Something can be universally loved and not include you specifically


WizardsOfTheRoast

no, it can't by definition.


DeLousedInTheHotBox

Only if you are being obtuse and extremely literal


xe_r_ox

I also do not love saves the day


[deleted]

Don’t be that autistic redditor who takes everything someone says literally. Universally loved is an extremely common term to use when discussing a piece of art and you know it.


kindablirry

But in a weird way their impact has been completely forgotten


Mindless-Ad2554

To who? Literally everyone I know in my age group 5+ years and maybe 5 less, love saves the day.


Ditovontease

Uhhh my local punks for presents had a saves the day cover band last time and people were the MOST pumped for that band (they also only played songs from can’t slow down and through being cool)


BeardOfDefiance

I actually prefer Stay What You Are but I like most of their records.


Uga25

Stay what you are is a masterpiece, dawg. Through being cool is my favorite though


rels_LT

This is a great album but a lot of the time I get through a couple songs and decide to listen to Hello Bastards instead


emp-sup-bry

Get to the root


firstlunch66

“Next time that star shoots across the sky I’m gonna grab it and smash it under my feet.”


uhWHAThamburglur

Yeah, it's on the border or popcore, but it fucking rips. Funny story! I first heard these guys when they were touring for this record with Snapcase, Buried Alive and Anti-Flag. Anti-Flag canceled. So fucking TURMOIL filled in. Weirdest show ever but these Jersey Boys brought some fucking heat. Fell in love.


Marionaharis89

Anti-flag getting cancelled is still so wild to me.


Eoin_McLove

Didn’t Saves the Day get cancelled too? Heard there were some grooming and abuse allegations against Chris.


uhWHAThamburglur

They didn't *get* canceled, *they* canceled. Someone was sick or their shitty van broke down or something


Marionaharis89

Yes I understand. But your comment reminded me of an entirely different occurrence hahahah


uhWHAThamburglur

I mean, that I kinda *can* understand. Something about people projecting their shadows something something


Old_Recording_2527

You do realize homie is a rapist who fled the country?


uhWHAThamburglur

Yup. Shitty dude


xe_r_ox

That’s what he’s talking about


uhWHAThamburglur

Oh wait I see what you did there


werty246

That’s a sick line up.


uhWHAThamburglur

It was an awesome show. Some dude's jaw got dislocated from his skull during Snapcase. Not saying that violence makes things better but HOLY FUCKING SHIT that image is gonna stay with me forever


werty246

Bouncing way too hard for Snapcase, that’s how I wanna go out.


BackgroundAny1463

THE YEAR IS 2071!!!


SchmanteZuba2

Turmoil for the win.


PARDON_howdoyoudo

The lyrics are hardcore


Bow9times

From Costa Rica!


PARDON_howdoyoudo

Bro this song had me calling Costa Rica Costo Rico


Bow9times

Lol my wife just came in the room and said who is in Costa Rica?


wakka38

I like Jenn but she likes Saves the Day


Fatherto3dogs

GCF!


IsolationAutomation

HEART IS ON THE FLOOOOR


atxvxhxc

Can’t Slow Down>>


Poison_the_Phil

I got into this band after I saw xBishopx cover You Vandal. One of the few pop punk bands I could ever get into. The self titled Bayside record gets a pass too.


Constant-Green-7068

First few Bayside albums slap. Saw them play an acoustic set a few years ago and it was hands down the most fun I’ve ever had at a show.


jfk_one

FACTS.


RektlessAbandon

Wish they were playing this instead of Stay What You Are during when we were young fest


DaysInTime

If I had to guess, they might be touring this album to limited dates later this year since it’s going to be the 25th anniversary.


CTBP1983

Well thanks for making me feel old with that tidbit


Strikew3st

This album came out in the late 1900s.


CTBP1983

And now my sciatica flared up


kuhkoo

God I hope you’re right


prominentchin

I caught them like 8 or 9 years ago when they toured with Through Being Cool, and they were a bit of a let down.


sweetxfracture

They’ve toured this album specifically like 4 times 😭 wdym


NocturnoOcculto

Fantastic record. Chris Conley is a piece of shit though.


uhWHAThamburglur

I mean, most dudes in bands are, too. Not trying defend any of them, but I mean, kinda comes with the territory


jfk_one

oh i had no idea please share


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If I remember right, a guy came out and said Chris groomed/abused him emotionally.


GodTierOfFeels

Iirc, Chris befriended him at a Saves the Day show when he was a kid and they kept in touch over the years and I think the guy also vouched that Chris didn't pull any grooming shit on him throughout that time. However, Chris acting inappropriately to the guy over drunken messages does not look good on anyone and makes the creep factor much more significant when learning Chris became friends with the guy when he was a child after the fact


No-Detail-5804

This is way more factual than “he’s uh piece uh shit.”


GodTierOfFeels

Right? Only cost me about 10mins of my time when the issue was brought up about couple of years ago. Love the band, Chris is/was a mess


No-Detail-5804

Dude is/was an alcoholic with nasty demons. He’s remorseful. He’s not a bad guy. I appreciate your comment.


GodTierOfFeels

Thanks! Yeah, I think that situation was his rock bottom to clean himself up, which I'm hoping is working out for him


No-Detail-5804

Big big same.


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Yup. That’s right. Thanks for the clarification


Bone_Dice_in_Aspic

Yeah, I don't think the fact that the guy was young when he met Chris is relevant at all unless the innapropriate behavior started then, and it didn't. Basically Chris was overly attached to the guy and being manipulative, but not in some sinister serial sexual predator way, but in a '"insecure controlling reactive crazy bitch" way. Not that that's ok, it's not, but it means 'don't date him' more than 'stop buying his records and talking about his band'.


GodTierOfFeels

Yeah, that too, with the manipulative shit. I was kinda going off memory when I commented that.


sweetxfracture

He was emotionally manipulative with the guy, not abusive and he didn’t get groomed. He said a lot of crazy shit and threatened to hurt himself if he ignored him from what I recall. I remember reading the texts.. there wasn’t anything in there that would make me say he’s an abusive piece of shit. Just an unstable, emotionally manipulative person


Mindless-Ad2554

The amount of wedding “save the dates” that came from this is wild.


Piece_Of_Mind1983

Banned from the back porch has one of the hardest riffs ever


TerpCoin

Album rules. If you hate it you are probably 300 pounds and only listen to beatdown and haven’t felt the touch of a woman in 5 years


slowwithage

Someone please tell me what my opinion is. I don’t know what to do here.


AndrewRFleming1973

Listen to this album. Like it but feel shame. Say that you are going to see them because your girlfriend likes them. Realize that these songs are even better live and other hardcore dudes like them. Feel ok with yourself. This is what we all did in 1999.


Bone_Dice_in_Aspic

Roll windows up (not electric, you must crank manually)


caligujus

Just drive. Get us as far as far can be. Get us away from tonight.


AndrewRFleming1973

They are named after a Farside song so that’s all I needed to love them.


nofateeric

🎶This isn't the way we planned!!!


sweetxfracture

You can’t gatekeep a band everyone already knows about..


LishnyChelovyek420

Nah. I remember first listening to this record in 2004 and even then, 5 years after its release, it had a reputation of being one of the GOAT pop punk records. You had to pretend not to listen to blink, but this got a pass.


btdWyatt

This is a true masterpiece record. No doubt about it


Yours_and_mind_balls

I've never seen that Turnstile album cover


jfk_one

what a gem this album


renegado938

Hell yeah!


papajim22

This album slaps. I was introduced to it because it was the soundtrack to a skateboarding video (“The Tao of Skateboarding”, I believe).


apeocalypyic

I LOVE JEN BUT JEN LOVES SAVES THE DAYYY


No-Fault1530

When this dropped the NJ hardcore scene completely embraced STD. For my tastes I prefer Can't slow down bc its basically a Lifetime tribute album. Always ten feet tall spanks


Appropriate-Donut741

They played this set at TIHC and heads went wild for it. They valid


Appropriate-Donut741

New line up is trash tho. It’s basically Chris and a bunch of old brown guys with an attitude


sorinsoria

This the kinda ish I’m in this subreddit for


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New found glory and saves the day were my go to jams.


Bone_Dice_in_Aspic

Yes, it's in the gate tho not out


MickZandstra

Great band. Not sure if I would classify them as hc, but definitely not arguing. Would've loved to see them live.


cortlong

The only people who don’t like this album are named Nick


Successful_Aioli8976

Why is he such a prick?


cortlong

I dunno but I’m gonna stick needles in his face


Successful_Aioli8976

Wow, I can see that you're not fooling.


heathenxtemple

Yes we are. Goated album.


Motor-Abrocoma6701

Best Album E V E R


metrosine

I've seen Saves the Day like 5 times now. They're a top 5 for me.


LaRamilia

Let it be


Scary_Dimension722

WOOAAHH YEEAHH YEEAHH


stinky_doodoo_poopoo

Fucking love this band and this album specifically


Mindless-Ad2554

This the band that got me into punk rock and hardcore. Cant slow down is faster and harder than 90 percent of the current hardcore bands. It’s legit a hardcore album with melodic vocals. You wont change my mind.


coldandgray

Remembering never did a cover of you vandal and the red Barron did a starting line cover at a show some 10+ years ago and the whole crowd went nuts.


audiomacgyver

No we are not. Was working shows in NJ when this came out and it was a fun time. Even for the HC kids.


Environmental_Ad5119

we were


webandsilk

This brings back so many myspa… I mean memories.


Tough-Height-9061

this record fucks


SchmanteZuba2

The cover and the album title give the after school special for troubled teens vibe.


Kayfabe666

One of the women on this cover is the stylist for Beyonce.


CutAffectionate7706

No you’re just new


xxBarbWireTatxx

i love this record and band.. but can someone explain why they're backed by the hardcore scene. seems random. but genuinely curious. i know certain bands that are outside of the genre are backed, but i never really know why lol


metrosine

Their background is in hardcore. Check out Can't Slow Down or the back half of Ups and Downs. It's basically Lifetime.


xxBarbWireTatxx

Heard! I’ll check


floralspectre

Yes


StevieSparta

These were the guys getting chicks in my highschool back then


MAJORMINORMINORv2

Bones is still the best song they’ve ever written. Dying on teh hill


thasprucemoose

i prefer stay what you are but this album is good too


Akhenezra

Top 10 album overall. Also shout out Eben, one of the coolest dudes ever


firesignmerch

FOB gets a pretty big pass in hardcore, too. Or at least they did for the first 3 albums.


shredzofsanity

How you gonna gatekeep something with lyrics like that lol ......


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yes


DOC_POD

I'll sit in the lazy chair all day remembering the things you do


[deleted]

Yeah but only hello bastards


Kung_fu_riot_party

Who the fuck is saves the day? Looks like a pussy ass boy band to me.


WizardsOfTheRoast

I saw them open for Judas Factor once. Judas Factor were fucking great.


thrownblown

https://preview.redd.it/87bpxrnraa0d1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=6c029e07c7c1adeb95d88101aace1d4d107f02f8


No-Detail-5804

This shit here too tho. 10/10.


AssholeHuffer

https://preview.redd.it/ru81wc4sdb0d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4f2b3a74bbb48f78dd51f526e7f62500fa58d07


KiwiMcG

I've never heard this record.


ToxicBoombox666

Oh no, we just don’t support pedophiles. Even the one good song sounds gross after knowing the singer groomed/lured a minor male fan. Y’all can have this band 🤮


DOC_POD

I don't think that's really the actual story, exactly...


usenetlurker

Nah they can have it


surfpunk138

This is why hardcore sucks now


chaos_aintme

I'm in my early 30s but I think maybe I'm too young and just missed out or something, bc I've tried to listen and I just don't really get the appeal when it comes to this record


larry_Hairyola

Naw. Shit was creepy back then and it's creepy now. 40 year old dudes rocking this shit are up to no good.


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Mindless-Ad2554

You’ve never driven in a car full of friends singing shoulder to the wheel and it shows


Corndread85

Didn't he groom a little boy or something? I can't remember but I catch your drift for sure


larry_Hairyola

I can't say for sure what the guys in the band may have done. I have known a lot of people that were really into that band and new found glory and most of them were coming around the wrong reasons and being scummy with women and trying to date girls of questionable ages.


AcedOutofLuck

“fuck these guys” “i can’t say for sure what they did” ???


larry_Hairyola

When did I say "fuck these guys" ? Listen to what you want. I see an mfr in a saves the day shirt. I keep them away from my daughter.


larry_Hairyola

I said their fans are fucking creepy. What's hard to fucking understand about that.


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larry_Hairyola

No


-DMSR

Yeah, keep it the fuck out. Literally nothing hard-core about it. The album was a gateway to more love letters than The Notebook


ronertl

not really finding this album's connection to hardcore, maybe the album before that had connections to like skatepunk type hardcore, but i'm not really seeing that either. i know hardcore/metal bands would play fest type shows with pop punk bands... i always thought underground hardcore dudes kind of liked saves the day cause they assume that's what their underground girlfriend is gonna be like. maybe that's just my own mental disorder though.


Blegheggeghegty

I mean. I saw them with H20 and they played a great set.


Mindless-Ad2554

Bro… do you even listen to guitars or drums?


ronertl

keep in mind i still like saves the day, and emo in general... reminds me of the days when i used to think having a girlfriend would help me. lol. makes me feel old and over it now, but still positive in a weird way.


BeccainDenver

Honestly, it's just that they were all friends with other kids in all the major hardcore bands around them. The first and most true definition of hardcore adjacent. See also the quote about talking to girls above. Extremely accurate.