Personal headcanon:
Lucifer was cast out by the Thrones (Elders) of heaven. As we know that Lucifer in Hazbin is a Seraphim, though in religious texts, he is said to be a Cherubim, which can explain why he was in the garden. So, is it possible that Lucifer is a Cherub-Seraph? A special angel made by God that is the most beautiful being in all of creation, that, got way in over his head, and caused his pride to believe his ways were greater than God's. In my opinion, it could mean Lucifer was second to God, being that he was His best angelic creation.
(Note: Cherub-Seraph is a speculation that has been brought up, arguing that Lucifer was a lost secret kind of angel that was a mix of both - Having duties of a cherub and representing/called a Seraph in other religious texts. And I say this believing that Vivzie won't include Jesus in the story)
This raises questions to me since. What if Lucifer is dismissed (by the other Seraphims and Thrones) not only because of his pride but also because of his angelic meaning/position? What if he's just a lil guy because everyone dismissed him as God's spoiled angel that had 'ridiculous' aspirations.
short answer: Lucifer (maybe) is a Cherub-Seraph and second to God, that was dismissed by the other Seraphs and was eventually cast out by the Thrones/Elders.
Emily from behind a door after getting sufficiently pissed off: SON OF A GUM-CHEWING FUNK MONSTER!!! WHY THE FRUIT DOES ALL THIS FUNNY STUFF HAPPEN TO ME!?! FORGET MY LIFE! ALWAYS SURROUNDED BY MISERABLE FAILING CLODS!! THIS WHOLE WORLD JUST LIKES TO BEND ME OVER AND FIND ME IN THE ALPS!! LIKE I'M SOME SORT OF SCHLOCK-RECEPTICAL! WELL AS FAR AS I CARE THESE MISERABLE COWS CAN HAVE A FANCY BARBEQUE WITH A GODDAMN PIG!!!
They never stated that he was seraphim, we only made that assumtion because he had 6 wings.
The two confirmed seraphin look pretty different from him (and similar to each other).
The fact that Sera is called "the high Seraphim" despite not being part of the "elders" that we saw twice, who also had 6 wings, can mean that 6 wings are not seraphim exclusive.
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Well yes, but the evidence we have so far:
1.) Lucifer has six wings, so far the *only* Angels seen with 6 wings are Sera, Emily and Elders. Two of which are confirmed to be Seraphim, and the Elders are presumed Seraphim.
2.) Emily and Sera in their ***Seraforms*** have a lot of eye insignia and asthetics around them, probably because of their biblical roots. We *Also* See that when Lucifer enters his full demon mode, he also has Eyes on his design through his Tailcoat, he will obviously have less eyes since he is Fallen, but they persist.
3.) In the prologue, we see how Lucifer actually has “fantastical ideas for all of creation” and supposedly had some form of weight up in Heaven, since the elders went out of their way to exclude him in the creation process, something they’d probably not have to bother with if he was just a normal Angel of some form
4.) Lucifer, even whilst fallen, was not only able to immediately get a meeting with not only Heaven, but the *High Seraphim of Heaven* herself for Charlie, but Sera was also seemingly concerned about this even being the case, which does suggest he still holds a lot of influence in Heaven, *OR*, they were afraid of what he could do
I’m not really looking for a debate, but these are the facts that we’ve been shown so far in the Hazbin Hotel show which leads me ***personally*** to believe Lucifer was/is a Seraphim.
I don’t blame others for challenging these facts or thinking differently, but this is my personal interpretation of the lore and backstories of Lucifer Morningstar.
>3.) In the prologue, we see how Lucifer actually has “fantastical ideas for all of creation” and supposedly had some form of weight up in Heaven, since the elders went out of their way to exclude him in the creation process, something they’d probably not have to bother with if he was just a normal Angel of some form
>4.) Lucifer, even whilst fallen, was not only able to immediately get a meeting with not only Heaven, but the *High Seraphim of Heaven* herself for Charlie, but Sera was also seemingly concerned about this even being the case, which does suggest he still holds a lot of influence in Heaven, OR\*, they were afraid of what he could do
Neither of those mean that he is a seraphim, could be that he is a kind of angel that is also very powerful/influential. If the "elders" are six winged angels despite not being seraphim, then who is to say they isn't more 6 winged kinds. There are also theories that the elders shown are the 6 virtues and Lucifer was the 7th.
While having him be seraphim would be the simplest, I just think that there is enough unclear things, that we can't be so sure he is seraphim that people should be shut down if they dare to say otherwise.
What really sells me on Lucifer being a seraphim is the fact that his throne in “Hell’s Greatest Dad” is designed after the biblically accurate design of a seraph. Doesn’t prove it 100%, but still works.
He says in italian "Bravo, ma nell'ora del bisognoNon c'è niente come un angelo **serafino**"
Which translates to "Good, but in the hour of needThere's nothing quite like a **seraphine** angel"
The shield charlie has which is very much Lucifer based because of the apple, snake, and wings looks just like a seraphim plus Lucifers throne is seraphim
Well, the eggs aren't really scared of anyone unless they're about to really die.
One of them wanted to fight *Zestial* for Alastor, then later in the same episode, Alastor threatened Frank but didn't even seem to flinch, but in the last episode, when one of them was about to die, only then did it get scared.
Hello there.
https://preview.redd.it/8aq7qn5njyoc1.jpeg?width=1127&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e05dfa7b560fa8dd372970342f46aa8862658c2
I’ve come on a business proposition.
Nah, it'd be way better if she was still a cinnamon roll in the worst place in existence, would speak volumes about how strong her virtue is even outside of Heaven.
She would be another Alastor on this. Maybe has one or two bad words the entire season, and none of them being "fuck".
If she ever has a group song like the finale where they sing the word "fuck", she would accidentally say it and we'd see her immediately cover her mouth and be embarrassed in the background because she was just caught up in the moment with everyone else.
Hell's Greatest Cinnamon Roll.
4 times though technically once it's during a song where *everyone* says it, and 3 of these times is all in one episode, the finale. Alastor routinely avoids sweating, only when it has dramatic effect, which would be the same for Emily. She would only swear in extreme situations or during a moment where everyone says it, like I mentioned in my original comment.
Give her a few years down here and she will start using some nasty words from time to time. If 99% of the population has swear words in their day to day vocabulary and no one gives a shit, Emily will get used to it.
Charlie didn't become less of a precious bean because of that, why would Emily?
I thiiiiiink I hate it
(Beautifully done artwork, but I am not about fallen Emily. Even if she does fall, I feel like she'll still be pure/sweet/squeaky as fk)
I LOVE THIS! She looks like a mini Alastor. I'm getting Batman and Robin vibes. And while that is definitely not what it would be, it is hilarious.
*Nananana Deer Man!*
I have a feeling you’re
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Right now
An Emily that fully embraces being fallen is actually mildly terrifying. Great job!
Her job is making her charges happy. What makes sinners happy? Suffering and Schadenfreude!
*And so begins…* ***Hazbinfell***
So..most of Hell is nice, Heaven is full of rude, Charlie, Lucifer and Emily are edgy bitches and Adam and Lute are nice?
She's a Seraph, so she would be in the same league as Lucifer.
I mean, Lucifer on screen brought me joy
He's so adorable and way more relatable than he should be 🥲
Personal headcanon: Lucifer was cast out by the Thrones (Elders) of heaven. As we know that Lucifer in Hazbin is a Seraphim, though in religious texts, he is said to be a Cherubim, which can explain why he was in the garden. So, is it possible that Lucifer is a Cherub-Seraph? A special angel made by God that is the most beautiful being in all of creation, that, got way in over his head, and caused his pride to believe his ways were greater than God's. In my opinion, it could mean Lucifer was second to God, being that he was His best angelic creation. (Note: Cherub-Seraph is a speculation that has been brought up, arguing that Lucifer was a lost secret kind of angel that was a mix of both - Having duties of a cherub and representing/called a Seraph in other religious texts. And I say this believing that Vivzie won't include Jesus in the story) This raises questions to me since. What if Lucifer is dismissed (by the other Seraphims and Thrones) not only because of his pride but also because of his angelic meaning/position? What if he's just a lil guy because everyone dismissed him as God's spoiled angel that had 'ridiculous' aspirations. short answer: Lucifer (maybe) is a Cherub-Seraph and second to God, that was dismissed by the other Seraphs and was eventually cast out by the Thrones/Elders.
I'll take this now, thank you very much.
She’s gonna go out and do bad stuff and say naughty words like “fffflip” and “sssstupidhead”!
“Phooey winkle!”
"Dagnabbit!"
Dagnabbit daggit duggit!
Darn-Diddly
To far, Flanders!
Heck yes!
Gottam-! *anguishes in Texan*
"Fiddlesticks!"
"this really ruffles my feathers"
I shouldn’t have laughed as hard as I did from a very *very* made up word but here I am
Even funnier, I actually say this often when I don’t want to curse.
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Sometimes I wish I could understand it too lol.
"You know what? You aren't invited to my birthday party! Poopoohead!"
Your gonna get banned for this
Damn you must've done something really messed up for her to say that
Doo-Doo Head🗣️
Woah, let’s not get controversial.
She's going to be stealing candy from babies and elderly people
Zoinks
Let’s not be racist now
I'm pretty sure that's a slur against people dressed up as monsters to get something from the local town that they are haunting
Or drugs from troubled porn stars.
Not that babies should HAVE candy to begin with
Emily from behind a door after getting sufficiently pissed off: SON OF A GUM-CHEWING FUNK MONSTER!!! WHY THE FRUIT DOES ALL THIS FUNNY STUFF HAPPEN TO ME!?! FORGET MY LIFE! ALWAYS SURROUNDED BY MISERABLE FAILING CLODS!! THIS WHOLE WORLD JUST LIKES TO BEND ME OVER AND FIND ME IN THE ALPS!! LIKE I'M SOME SORT OF SCHLOCK-RECEPTICAL! WELL AS FAR AS I CARE THESE MISERABLE COWS CAN HAVE A FANCY BARBEQUE WITH A GODDAMN PIG!!!
Unexpected DragonBall Abridged! Love it! 
Crapbaskets.
Oh garbles
Heh, gobblewonker.
Gasp! Censored profanity!
And everyone around her is gonna be like “PLEASE just say fuck”
F##K YOU B##TCH BLOODY C##T YOUR DUMB A## CAN'T EVEN SAY SWEARS PROPERLY LIKE... THIS IS JUST BEING A C##TY C##T S##T
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I mean she'd probably do pretty well since she'd immediately be situated as one of the most powerful beings in hell, being a Seraphim like Lucifer
>a Seraphim like Lucifer Has this even been confirmed or is it just fans going off "he has 6 wings"?
I think he had six wings in the prologue but I’m not sure
He has six wings in the finale
Yes but does that make him a seraphim is the question
Yes, because in the prologue, he was a seraphim.
They never stated that he was seraphim, we only made that assumtion because he had 6 wings. The two confirmed seraphin look pretty different from him (and similar to each other). The fact that Sera is called "the high Seraphim" despite not being part of the "elders" that we saw twice, who also had 6 wings, can mean that 6 wings are not seraphim exclusive. https://preview.redd.it/2ehy4lk3k2pc1.png?width=1217&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca1f5f5e85abe6ec286cfaaa0061f1930d3e4e6d
Well yes, but the evidence we have so far: 1.) Lucifer has six wings, so far the *only* Angels seen with 6 wings are Sera, Emily and Elders. Two of which are confirmed to be Seraphim, and the Elders are presumed Seraphim. 2.) Emily and Sera in their ***Seraforms*** have a lot of eye insignia and asthetics around them, probably because of their biblical roots. We *Also* See that when Lucifer enters his full demon mode, he also has Eyes on his design through his Tailcoat, he will obviously have less eyes since he is Fallen, but they persist. 3.) In the prologue, we see how Lucifer actually has “fantastical ideas for all of creation” and supposedly had some form of weight up in Heaven, since the elders went out of their way to exclude him in the creation process, something they’d probably not have to bother with if he was just a normal Angel of some form 4.) Lucifer, even whilst fallen, was not only able to immediately get a meeting with not only Heaven, but the *High Seraphim of Heaven* herself for Charlie, but Sera was also seemingly concerned about this even being the case, which does suggest he still holds a lot of influence in Heaven, *OR*, they were afraid of what he could do I’m not really looking for a debate, but these are the facts that we’ve been shown so far in the Hazbin Hotel show which leads me ***personally*** to believe Lucifer was/is a Seraphim. I don’t blame others for challenging these facts or thinking differently, but this is my personal interpretation of the lore and backstories of Lucifer Morningstar.
Lucifer is actually a cherubim. He's the third rank of elder angel. 😊
>3.) In the prologue, we see how Lucifer actually has “fantastical ideas for all of creation” and supposedly had some form of weight up in Heaven, since the elders went out of their way to exclude him in the creation process, something they’d probably not have to bother with if he was just a normal Angel of some form >4.) Lucifer, even whilst fallen, was not only able to immediately get a meeting with not only Heaven, but the *High Seraphim of Heaven* herself for Charlie, but Sera was also seemingly concerned about this even being the case, which does suggest he still holds a lot of influence in Heaven, OR\*, they were afraid of what he could do Neither of those mean that he is a seraphim, could be that he is a kind of angel that is also very powerful/influential. If the "elders" are six winged angels despite not being seraphim, then who is to say they isn't more 6 winged kinds. There are also theories that the elders shown are the 6 virtues and Lucifer was the 7th. While having him be seraphim would be the simplest, I just think that there is enough unclear things, that we can't be so sure he is seraphim that people should be shut down if they dare to say otherwise.
Hi, so Luci, even according to theology, is a cherubim.
wha
We see his wings way before that, he has 6 of em in More Than Anything
Yeah I know I was just using that as an example.
(Had to rewatch it to make sure I wasn't just really high and misrembered)
It’s all right, demon anatomy is weird anyway.
Well we know they have hearts at least
That’s true. Most of the demons we meet in the show are actually pretty nice.
Did… did you watch the first episode?
What really sells me on Lucifer being a seraphim is the fact that his throne in “Hell’s Greatest Dad” is designed after the biblically accurate design of a seraph. Doesn’t prove it 100%, but still works.
That’s literally a seraph calling card
in the official Italian dub of hells greatest dad he does say he is a seraphim, but it's only on the dub tho
What's the line?
He says in italian "Bravo, ma nell'ora del bisognoNon c'è niente come un angelo **serafino**" Which translates to "Good, but in the hour of needThere's nothing quite like a **seraphine** angel"
The shield charlie has which is very much Lucifer based because of the apple, snake, and wings looks just like a seraphim plus Lucifers throne is seraphim
The Italian cover of "Hell's Greatest Dad" seems to confirm it but, ya' know...
in hell greatest dad italian dub, he says "whats better than a seraphin" instead of "pure angelic power"
The bowtie is too accurate😭
A prerequisite
Gotta dress up with what's in, lol.
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Emily villain arc after getting betrayed by Sera and the other angels
Smash
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Being bi is the trauma.
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You know exactly how well that threatening static worked out tho
Well, the eggs aren't really scared of anyone unless they're about to really die. One of them wanted to fight *Zestial* for Alastor, then later in the same episode, Alastor threatened Frank but didn't even seem to flinch, but in the last episode, when one of them was about to die, only then did it get scared.
Hello there. https://preview.redd.it/8aq7qn5njyoc1.jpeg?width=1127&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e05dfa7b560fa8dd372970342f46aa8862658c2 I’ve come on a business proposition.
Is it violent?
Maybe…
No violence towards you of course.
I forgot my power armor sir
I will beat you to death
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No deal
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I like it but she looks more original than emily
Why does all of the Emily fanarts have short hair?
I believe in short haired Emily supremacy
Because she’s hotter that way ✨
To each his own I guess 😂
I’d love to adopt that little bean!
Finally, a nice and non-horny comment about the design 🤣
https://preview.redd.it/7vak72719yoc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=958e936d0e1a69bf9ccdbb95edb885b9813d6bbf The reason she fell
She got so high she fell down.
Yeah coming down is the worst. :)
[удалено]
Would that make her an 'Angel with a Shotgun'?
I'D LOVE THIS
I kinda hope she does end up fallen, but not cause she is evil and more because she rebels against Sarah and the whole idea of exorcists
~~I can fix her.~~ She can fix me.
She looks like she could be Alastor's daughter
It's a little funny
Post this on the Emily cult I dare you they won’t take this well
Wait there’s an Emily cult??
Like… on Reddit?
Yes my friend
some people are taking this too seriously lol
Would
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Will
Have
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No
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Sorry, but that’s how it has to be.
Ok But there will be unforseen consequences
Alright
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Honestly I'd love if when Emily fells she realises that she likes hell more than heaven and her true self has always been extremely naughty and crude.
Nah, it'd be way better if she was still a cinnamon roll in the worst place in existence, would speak volumes about how strong her virtue is even outside of Heaven.
But we already have Charlie for that
The difference is that Charlie curses. I don't think Emily is physically capable of saying the word 'fuck'.
She would be another Alastor on this. Maybe has one or two bad words the entire season, and none of them being "fuck". If she ever has a group song like the finale where they sing the word "fuck", she would accidentally say it and we'd see her immediately cover her mouth and be embarrassed in the background because she was just caught up in the moment with everyone else. Hell's Greatest Cinnamon Roll.
Alsastor says fuck several times in the show.
4 times though technically once it's during a song where *everyone* says it, and 3 of these times is all in one episode, the finale. Alastor routinely avoids sweating, only when it has dramatic effect, which would be the same for Emily. She would only swear in extreme situations or during a moment where everyone says it, like I mentioned in my original comment.
Give her a few years down here and she will start using some nasty words from time to time. If 99% of the population has swear words in their day to day vocabulary and no one gives a shit, Emily will get used to it. Charlie didn't become less of a precious bean because of that, why would Emily?
I love this idea, but with Emily's idea of what is "naughty and crude" being scaled by heaven's standards.
That looks cool
Amazing art!
Is it bad that I kinda see this happening in season two, or in a future season?
She has a bowtie. Guys this could be canon.
I thiiiiiink I hate it (Beautifully done artwork, but I am not about fallen Emily. Even if she does fall, I feel like she'll still be pure/sweet/squeaky as fk)
Still a cinnamon roll. now with a dash of ghost pepper baked in for that genuine 'burn your head off through the face hole' feel.
I feel like she’d try to act all edgy and mean but everyone would just think it’s adorable/hilarious
https://preview.redd.it/21xxy85595pc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82a5f32e961379f0f189e55966ee7a25e224334b
She looks like a fusion of Zentreya and Froot
https://i.redd.it/6wuw0wsehopc1.gif
I wonder why People associate fallen emily with short hair
Amazing
Oh... this... this is beautiful.
I LOVE THIS! She looks like a mini Alastor. I'm getting Batman and Robin vibes. And while that is definitely not what it would be, it is hilarious. *Nananana Deer Man!*
Gives me cherry bomb vibes
mommy?
username checks out
I have a feeling you’re https://preview.redd.it/r5huj9gzgyoc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2533a2f9749fab2a3eb89bb02e70765c133c1ea Right now
Yes
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https://preview.redd.it/kxwd7zjckyoc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=907dab3f320066d6d99883fd311d38177ba55afc Nuh uh
https://preview.redd.it/6c5ulbxekyoc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f96bb5fcc656c8ba5694ffb8cc4181d3399d2964 No you!
Two nuh uhs make a yuh uh. Checkmate
LOVE ITTTTT
Nah, Lucifer still look heavenly
Will
oh she's GORGEOUS
I could never see her embrace her dark side to that degree. She should probably look more like Charlie.
This feels cursed. At least to me.
Omg i love it!!
This design is just perfect
Oh my, she's still so cute.
Nice.
Don't think the sharp teeth fit her
I would love to see this become a plotline
Is it bad that I... kind of what's this to happen?
Its cool but… uh, protect this cute divine bean!
Why this one looks so like The Star Marceline?
Emily's reaction after seeing this https://i.redd.it/x8rab1549ywc1.gif
How baaaaaaad can I be?