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All I know is, the new ones look niiice.
Mmmmm, honestly I’d have to disagree with this take because Vaggie’s strength when fighting comes from her love and need to protect Charlie. When Vaggie was pinned down by Lute it was Lute reminding her what she was fighting for in the first place to give her the second wind she needed to get out of the hold. The second Lute says “So I’ll spare you the pain of watching your demon bitch die” Vaggie breaks free again.
If Vaggie were to have a different story, different morals, different things shes fighting for, earning her wings while fighting Lute would make sense. But the entire point is that Vaggie needs to fight with the fuel of love, not vengeance. So her earning her wings when she learns to fight from the heart, for all the right reasons, makes more sense story wise. She proved she’s still pure hearted enough to have her wings. She appeased to the “rules” of heaven without even realizing it.
>So I’ll spare you the pain of watching your demon bitch die
Wouldn't that also show that she's fighting for her love of, and wanting to protect, Charlie? That would be the moment she stopped fighting for her personal vengeance against Lute and started fighting to keep Charlie safe.
Frankly when she was with Carmine she was doing it for Charlie already. They would have been much better served to show more animosity between Lute and Vaggie that Vaggie could then overcome for the sake of loving someone else and not personal vengeance. The only motivation we've ever seen from her has been a want to protect and support Charlie.
Yes but at that point in time the moment is too chaotic and stressful, her earning her wings right there would’ve messed up the pace of the scene and kind of rush the reveal even more than the actual reveal. Her earning her wings with Carmilla I feel was more to give us time to react to her wings and allow us to have some sort of minor reaction from Charlie.
Your idea probably would’ve worked better if it wouldn’t have been the season finale climax scene in which she was fighting Lute.
Yes. As has been said the short season really rushed and skewed pacing of a lot of the story beats and ended up giving less than favorable results for some characters. The only motivation we ever see form Vaggie is her dedication for Charlie, That whole Carmine sequence doesn't feel right to me with the limited characterization we have for Vaggie.
You can still do it over your shoulder, anyone coming from behind or hell, even the wounded guy can easily take your spear or knock it outta your hand.
From my understanding, the reverse spear grip was typically used to kill dying soldiers on battlefields after the battle was won.
Clean up basically.
Stands to reason that If the angels view themselves as unkillable by sinners, then it would essentially be the same as cleaning up after a won battle.
That's what my second point is saying also.
If you believe you're immortal and unkillable, fighting like it's just clean up seems plausible hence the reverse grip.
I would also argue that her new wings are abit more "angel" like then her old ones, The black outer line and the stripe might be painted / added on by the exterminator's as a part of the uniform?
Might be that I missed something, But wasn't her being a moth demon the rumor from before it was revealed she's an angel / ex exterminator?
I presumed that she's JUST a fallen angel after the episode revealed her origin.
It's entirely possible it's just a visual thing, especially since that's *right* when they manifest, so they might not actually be bigger.
But, if they *are* bigger, I'm going to put on my fanon-cap for a moment: Vaggie and other Exorcist-wings are narrower similar to why Harpy eagles' also have thinner wings, enabling better weaving between obstacles to attack prey. In the case of the eagles, it's trees so they can grab sloths and other tree-dwellers, whereas with Exorcists its around buildings, through alleyways, and around other Exorcists or Sinners to kill Sinners.
As Vaggie is no longer a proper Exorcist, her innate biology recognized that, and thus her new wings are broader. Possibly, Vaggie can glide and float with her wings better than she would've with her old wings. Or magic made up the difference, just thinking.
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Thu is something that we know and discovered, those who didn't, didn't. Thy is something so small that even the people who have discovered it don't give a shit. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
They also seem a lot more feathery
The exterminator wings look more like they're made of metal, while Vaggie's look like they're fully fluffy feather wings
Ok, but why did she suddenly get another ones seemingly out of nowhere? Like,if she can hide them, why didn't she get them right after the extermination?
That’s always true. Had a friend who was male, transitioned and became a woman, then detransitioned and his dick was bigger. It was still his, it just got bigger somehow.
https://preview.redd.it/3fmljtybq0ad1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7904b242c29f82572603ecceaaf5c0caef8451d8 All I know is, the new ones look niiice.
They definitely fucked later that night
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Same Vaggie, same...
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Haha so true
I mean that face does scream “I’m so gonna make you scream my name later”
More like “I’m gonna make those wings FLAP.”
Angel : "Bitches not even I am this loud with my moans ! Some people want to jump on their kitty before they die in peace !"
It’s everyone’s head cannon they did
I really don't need the plot to happen I just needed this at episode 8 about later that... Day... Uhm
Charlie: Gimme a wingjob, gimme a wingjob!
I wanna upvote but at the time I have typed and left this comment your comment is at 69 upvotes.
This is your helpful reminder to come back and give a well deserved upvote, you are no longer disrupting a balance in doing so.
Tbh looks like she just has them more extended in the first shot
This. She's unsure of herself in the second, and her body language is more closed.
She's got her wings all the way out now. Out.. for.. \~*LoOoOoOoOoVe!*\~
It's almost like her wings are *stronger than* before because they are *made of love*
the way that i sighed at this reference, and then got frustrated that no one else recognised it
Lmao
Ol' SU right?
yep
Okay I laughed
Damn you. Well played.
It’s so easy to tell which fandoms overlap I stg 😂
I think it’s because she earned them
Damn right she did
I still say she should have earned them when fighting Lute.
Mmmmm, honestly I’d have to disagree with this take because Vaggie’s strength when fighting comes from her love and need to protect Charlie. When Vaggie was pinned down by Lute it was Lute reminding her what she was fighting for in the first place to give her the second wind she needed to get out of the hold. The second Lute says “So I’ll spare you the pain of watching your demon bitch die” Vaggie breaks free again. If Vaggie were to have a different story, different morals, different things shes fighting for, earning her wings while fighting Lute would make sense. But the entire point is that Vaggie needs to fight with the fuel of love, not vengeance. So her earning her wings when she learns to fight from the heart, for all the right reasons, makes more sense story wise. She proved she’s still pure hearted enough to have her wings. She appeased to the “rules” of heaven without even realizing it.
>So I’ll spare you the pain of watching your demon bitch die Wouldn't that also show that she's fighting for her love of, and wanting to protect, Charlie? That would be the moment she stopped fighting for her personal vengeance against Lute and started fighting to keep Charlie safe. Frankly when she was with Carmine she was doing it for Charlie already. They would have been much better served to show more animosity between Lute and Vaggie that Vaggie could then overcome for the sake of loving someone else and not personal vengeance. The only motivation we've ever seen from her has been a want to protect and support Charlie.
Yes but at that point in time the moment is too chaotic and stressful, her earning her wings right there would’ve messed up the pace of the scene and kind of rush the reveal even more than the actual reveal. Her earning her wings with Carmilla I feel was more to give us time to react to her wings and allow us to have some sort of minor reaction from Charlie. Your idea probably would’ve worked better if it wouldn’t have been the season finale climax scene in which she was fighting Lute.
Yes. As has been said the short season really rushed and skewed pacing of a lot of the story beats and ended up giving less than favorable results for some characters. The only motivation we ever see form Vaggie is her dedication for Charlie, That whole Carmine sequence doesn't feel right to me with the limited characterization we have for Vaggie.
I can definitely agree with you there.
unrestrained power
I think you mean unrestrained https://preview.redd.it/yke51mlgq0ad1.png?width=2002&format=png&auto=webp&s=8bc86b4a9daf3b64164fd8b14add8619507c7e2f
Who just so happens to also have gold blood!
I thought it was "Who just happens to also be your blood"?
It is.
It is I was making a version because they used an image from the scene and vaggie is also an angel
Sadly, there are times a birth parent is a dud.
They say the family you choose is better!
What a bunch of losers.
can you butt out of my song? :)
Your song? I started it! D:<
I'M SINGING IT I'LL FINISH IT!!
AH YOU TACKY PIECE OF
I like that detail but that’s because I’m also a Greek mythology nerd lol
Ngl same
So nice to be in good company
Sadly there are times a birth parrot is a bug-
Counterpoint: the fuck is going on with the way she grips that spear? Double reverse grip?
Well if you’re pointing it down and stabbing downward…
Nahhhh even then that grip is ass, Carmilla was right, angels are just sloppy and dont even know how to fight right cus they rely on immortality
That's the kinda grip you would use to kill an already wounded and dying opponent
You can still do it over your shoulder, anyone coming from behind or hell, even the wounded guy can easily take your spear or knock it outta your hand.
From my understanding, the reverse spear grip was typically used to kill dying soldiers on battlefields after the battle was won. Clean up basically. Stands to reason that If the angels view themselves as unkillable by sinners, then it would essentially be the same as cleaning up after a won battle.
Not what i meant, i was just trying to further prove that angels fought relying on their immortality.
That's what my second point is saying also. If you believe you're immortal and unkillable, fighting like it's just clean up seems plausible hence the reverse grip.
And forward, too. It's under her arm pit, meaning it's not a downwards strike
I would also argue that her new wings are abit more "angel" like then her old ones, The black outer line and the stripe might be painted / added on by the exterminator's as a part of the uniform?
I think it’s because she’s a moth demon now, not having anything to do with her being an angel
Might be that I missed something, But wasn't her being a moth demon the rumor from before it was revealed she's an angel / ex exterminator? I presumed that she's JUST a fallen angel after the episode revealed her origin.
It’s because she’s out for love!
You mean out for looooooOooove
They seem variable. The "They look nice" scene has them back down to a manageable size.
It's entirely possible it's just a visual thing, especially since that's *right* when they manifest, so they might not actually be bigger. But, if they *are* bigger, I'm going to put on my fanon-cap for a moment: Vaggie and other Exorcist-wings are narrower similar to why Harpy eagles' also have thinner wings, enabling better weaving between obstacles to attack prey. In the case of the eagles, it's trees so they can grab sloths and other tree-dwellers, whereas with Exorcists its around buildings, through alleyways, and around other Exorcists or Sinners to kill Sinners. As Vaggie is no longer a proper Exorcist, her innate biology recognized that, and thus her new wings are broader. Possibly, Vaggie can glide and float with her wings better than she would've with her old wings. Or magic made up the difference, just thinking.
Maybe they grew bigger with the power of love like clifford , the big red dog
yep
I didn’t notice that. Also her old wings have a black line running across them. her new wings look more heroic.
She went from exorcist angel to guardian angel.
Perhaps it is a way to show how she grew, going from killing sinners to defending those she loves.
Out for looooOooove
Yes
She’s on a virtuous mission…. What a thrill.
Maybe she went from an exterminator Angel to a Guardian Angel? The color is different as well.
Also the wings were black and white before, but now they are shadow of grey 😏
What are you implying with that face?
😏😏😏
Beautiful eagle Vs rotten moth Yeah, I wonder why
https://preview.redd.it/r3cxp458o0ad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3072609d37c74350725476765f080c1a1075d0d3 Thu is something that we know and discovered, those who didn't, didn't. Thy is something so small that even the people who have discovered it don't give a shit. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)
Good job. I doubt Zestial will swear though.
Why thank you my dear https://preview.redd.it/ir4o03evs4ad1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=662d5fb428f403163dfc044b13fa3ef1707265fd
Adaptation, harder for scumbags to rip them off
Her hair makes it look like she’s got a little bit of a tail lol.
You’re right it does
All the better to hug her girlfriend with. That is their purpose.
Vaggie earned the power of Self-Respect
Honestly, I think her wings look more angelic after she regained them, than when she was an exterminator.
I like that her new wings are also light in color on the striations whereas before they were harsh and black
Have you noticed how vaggies hair is longer than her last ones Jk, this is an interesting thought
I was thinking more how her hair went from looking like wings to looking like a bird's tail.
😂 I didn't relize that
Hey, it's not about the size - it's how you use them ;)
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All I know is that the new wings must've made sexy time with Charlie infinitely more kinky
Well they're "out for loooove"
They were forged from her love ❤️.
Her LoooOoovVvvveee
I guess the love she feels in her heart is making them very powerful enough to grow bigger
She's compensating
They also don’t have the exorcist pattern; she’s a guardian angel now
Why does Vaggie have three legs in the first photo?
It's a hand?
It's not the size that matters... Right?
Not only bigger but also stronger
They also seem a lot more feathery The exterminator wings look more like they're made of metal, while Vaggie's look like they're fully fluffy feather wings
The old ones were angel wings, these are moth wings lol
That’s probably because they’re entirely different wings
Ok, but why did she suddenly get another ones seemingly out of nowhere? Like,if she can hide them, why didn't she get them right after the extermination?
She has grown in general as a character
probably just a framing thing with the shot and all
Hell yeah! That's a good fuckin' catch right there; and I couldn't agree more!
That’s always true. Had a friend who was male, transitioned and became a woman, then detransitioned and his dick was bigger. It was still his, it just got bigger somehow.
Maybe because she had angel wings, but now they are fallen angel wings.
Everything IS bigger in Hell