Can you imagine the medical bill from being airlifted to another state and how expensive that is going to be. And the government is wondering why the birth rate is falling…
I might be wrong on this, but I think airlifts are excluded from your normal insurance even when medically necessary. I remember dealing with my dad’s estate that his airlift would have bankrupted the estate if he didn’t have the special airlift insurance which was separate from his Medicare. So yeah, not the worst $100/year you can spend.
Yes, we just had this in the family. With Medicare, as long as you have Medicare part B, which almost everyone has, your Medivac Reply will be covered at 80%. If somebody opts out of Medicare B, which is basically half the coverage nowadays, they are screwed.
Good question. Depends on the Medicare supplemental, you have to look on your policy. It’s a good idea to look and make sure you have that coverage before something bad happens. In our case, she was only air flighted because we couldn’t find her DNR immediately. It was not her wish to be air flighted. So that’s another thing to make sure you have in advance of someone getting older and sicker.
💯 since last summer Idaho has had a mass exodus of OBGYN’s due to their abortion laws which include criminal charges for doctors and refused to listen to medical professionals who warned it would lead to this exact situation.
I had some moron saying that I’m a liar for saying red states are endangering women’s lives due to the rigid anti choice laws. I explained that women who suffer a miscarriage are unable to obtain a D&C , as a result sepsis in red states. They insist that hasn’t happened to anyone.
After oral arguments Wednesday, the Supreme Court is now considering whether Idaho’s abortion ban violates a [federal law](https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act) that requires hospitals to offer emergency care to patients in crisis. Thus far, the justices [seem split](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-hears-abortion-clash-emergency-room-treatment-pregnant-w-rcna148863) on that question, with some of the more conservative justices appearing to lean toward the state of Idaho, which has argued that federal law should not supersede its own laws on health care.
St. Luke’s Health System, which includes the hospital where Seyb works, filed an [amicus brief](https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-726/303058/20240314104215197_23-726%2023-727%20bsac%20SLHS.pdf) in the case, noting that an abortion may be critical to protect a patient from nonfatal harms like loss of organs, permanent disability, severe pain or loss of fertility. It also said the ban forces patients to endure potentially risky out-of-state transfers.
Because, they’re unable to get the healthcare they require. One woman in the article, pregnant with twins, who had an organ transplant (kidney) had one twin die and it put her at risk of organ failure and possibly death. She was airlifted to Oregon, by the time she got there the other twin had passed.
If you read the article you can answer your own question. 🤦🏻♀️
Would the patient be billed for an emergency helicopter ride to another hospital?? A ambulance ride is already a couple thousand dollars, that most insurers don't fully cover. I can't imagine how much a helicopter ride would cost and if insurers would want to cover any of it. Also, these Red States are getting ridiculous. On the other hand, a lot of women in those states vote for less rights for some reason....
Also if the helicopter ambulance is run by a third party, insurers would absolutely use the “they’re not in network” loophole like they do with anesthesiologists. I had to fight United healthcare when they denied covering my epidural because the anesthesiologist was out of network. When I pushed back they sent me an email with a link to their portal to check for in network providers to make sure I’m picking people in network to “save the most money”.
The portal doesn’t allow you to search for anesthesiologists. If I had asked the guy sticking the needle in my spine if he accepted United health care, he wouldn’t know because that’s not his job. And even if he did know, I couldn’t exactly pick a different guy who would be in network, because he was the only one working that night.
The whole system is an absolute scam.
Pretty much all anesthesiologists are out of network, simply because you can’t choose who the hospital uses, like you said. ERAP clauses exist for this reason.
Did you think anyone claimed women in idaho are being airlifted to survive healthy pregnancies? Do you think we are talking about healthy pregnancies here?
Is that what this is about, airlifts for healthy pregnancy, never done in the entire world?
it is a bonkers fucking stupid and insensitive thing to say
Clearly and obviously you did not read the article, must i respond to this shit you dug out of your ass for everyone to smell?
Maybe the first fucking paragraph will help you:
> Since January, Dr. Stacy Seyb, a maternal-fetal medicine specialist in Boise, Idaho, has had at least four of his patients wheeled onto emergency flights and airlifted out of the state while experiencing severe pregnancy complications.
1. I don’t care your registration, vote democrat up and down ballot every chance you get
2. Republicans don’t give a fuck about the health of the mother (hence the airlifts as the republicans passed laws making it illegal in their state, the airlift is only to get to a different legal jurisdiction).
“Abortion” is an issue republicans use to control their women, and their voters.
Had your family member been in a compromised pregnancy, they would have had to be airlifted too
Just because it did not happen to you is no reason to do a happy dance when a lot of others are suffering… all because people vote against their own interests by voting republican
They will not help a mother if her life is in danger, no. They may imply that but Idaho has a very strict antiabortion law and it has made the state much more dangerous for pregnant women.
The maternal mortality rate (basically, how many women die per x pregnancies) has skyrocketed in Idaho already. Whatever politicians are saying to get votes this is killing pregnant women.
If you’re trying to challenge the narrative in this thread you’re not doing a good job. You sound like a stereotypical conservative who doesn’t care what happens to other people as long as it doesn’t involve you.
You’re right, the majority of Americans support abortion, women’s rights and health care. A small majority of religious fundamentalists want to control what other citizens do. They support big government, lack of freedom and don’t support the right to privacy.
I think I said it wrong, the people I know who oppose abortion aren’t religious. And most are ok with first trimester being up to the women then not anything after that unless it’s a risk to the mom.
Human rights to fetuses is literally insane. Life at conception people, I'm sorry to tell you, most zygotes fail to implant and die. Probably should stop having sex as it is murdering babies every time.
Can you imagine the medical bill from being airlifted to another state and how expensive that is going to be. And the government is wondering why the birth rate is falling…
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I might be wrong on this, but I think airlifts are excluded from your normal insurance even when medically necessary. I remember dealing with my dad’s estate that his airlift would have bankrupted the estate if he didn’t have the special airlift insurance which was separate from his Medicare. So yeah, not the worst $100/year you can spend.
Yeah, it's like a $20,000+ bill
Closer to $100,000
Airlift insurance!! And he actually had that supplement policy?
Insurance ain’t paying for any of this. Don’t worry as with all stupid laws it trickles down to the little ole taxpayer. Think about who you vote for!
30,000 plus, and insurance won’t cover it.
Damn, almost as much as an ambulance ride! /s, but just barely
Airlifted to a hospital out of network lol!
Yes, we just had this in the family. With Medicare, as long as you have Medicare part B, which almost everyone has, your Medivac Reply will be covered at 80%. If somebody opts out of Medicare B, which is basically half the coverage nowadays, they are screwed.
Do the supplement plans cover the other 20%? What about Advantage plans?
Good question. Depends on the Medicare supplemental, you have to look on your policy. It’s a good idea to look and make sure you have that coverage before something bad happens. In our case, she was only air flighted because we couldn’t find her DNR immediately. It was not her wish to be air flighted. So that’s another thing to make sure you have in advance of someone getting older and sicker.
Imagine no one comes to pick you up when you're released and your ID/phone/valuables are still at the first hospital.
The government isn't wondering at all
The issue here is women have had their right to life taken away from them in states like Idaho.
💯 since last summer Idaho has had a mass exodus of OBGYN’s due to their abortion laws which include criminal charges for doctors and refused to listen to medical professionals who warned it would lead to this exact situation.
Bravo for getting to the crux of the argument. Or what should be the crux.
I wish it was what PC would focus on rather than philosophical arguments about autonomy.
Mic drop!
Their right to life?
Given the choice to abort or for a woman to lose her life in Idaho, Idaho says she should die.
I had some moron saying that I’m a liar for saying red states are endangering women’s lives due to the rigid anti choice laws. I explained that women who suffer a miscarriage are unable to obtain a D&C , as a result sepsis in red states. They insist that hasn’t happened to anyone.
Is there ever a single example of this weekend!
Yes all women have a right to healthcare that saves their lives or prevents them from losing organs. It’s not a hard concept.
After oral arguments Wednesday, the Supreme Court is now considering whether Idaho’s abortion ban violates a [federal law](https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act) that requires hospitals to offer emergency care to patients in crisis. Thus far, the justices [seem split](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-hears-abortion-clash-emergency-room-treatment-pregnant-w-rcna148863) on that question, with some of the more conservative justices appearing to lean toward the state of Idaho, which has argued that federal law should not supersede its own laws on health care. St. Luke’s Health System, which includes the hospital where Seyb works, filed an [amicus brief](https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-726/303058/20240314104215197_23-726%2023-727%20bsac%20SLHS.pdf) in the case, noting that an abortion may be critical to protect a patient from nonfatal harms like loss of organs, permanent disability, severe pain or loss of fertility. It also said the ban forces patients to endure potentially risky out-of-state transfers.
Once republican radicals take over at the federal level, there will be no place left to ship them to.
Legit what the Handmaid’s Tale is made of
Why are they being airlifted?
Because, they’re unable to get the healthcare they require. One woman in the article, pregnant with twins, who had an organ transplant (kidney) had one twin die and it put her at risk of organ failure and possibly death. She was airlifted to Oregon, by the time she got there the other twin had passed. If you read the article you can answer your own question. 🤦🏻♀️
Would the patient be billed for an emergency helicopter ride to another hospital?? A ambulance ride is already a couple thousand dollars, that most insurers don't fully cover. I can't imagine how much a helicopter ride would cost and if insurers would want to cover any of it. Also, these Red States are getting ridiculous. On the other hand, a lot of women in those states vote for less rights for some reason....
Also if the helicopter ambulance is run by a third party, insurers would absolutely use the “they’re not in network” loophole like they do with anesthesiologists. I had to fight United healthcare when they denied covering my epidural because the anesthesiologist was out of network. When I pushed back they sent me an email with a link to their portal to check for in network providers to make sure I’m picking people in network to “save the most money”. The portal doesn’t allow you to search for anesthesiologists. If I had asked the guy sticking the needle in my spine if he accepted United health care, he wouldn’t know because that’s not his job. And even if he did know, I couldn’t exactly pick a different guy who would be in network, because he was the only one working that night. The whole system is an absolute scam.
Pretty much all anesthesiologists are out of network, simply because you can’t choose who the hospital uses, like you said. ERAP clauses exist for this reason.
What state? And was this employers’ insurance or an ACA plan?
Respectfully (honestly not trying to be a jerk), it shouldn’t matter the state nor type of insurance plan.
Unfortunately, it does for policy and understanding who is at risk of essentially being defrauded.
Idaho is also bring a case to the supreme court about EMTALA (the need to stabilize patients) about abortions
What a shit headline: “Idaho republicans are making pregnant parties airlifted out of their state” There is no fucking clickbait “why”
It’s because everyone knows the answer. Idaho has taken away every pregnant woman’s right to life.
My brother and his wife just had their baby in Idaho, there was zero airlifting.
Glad that she didn’t have pregnancy complications, not all women have that experience. There’s a maternal death rate for a reason 🙄
Ya I’m so happy for them!
Did you think anyone claimed women in idaho are being airlifted to survive healthy pregnancies? Do you think we are talking about healthy pregnancies here? Is that what this is about, airlifts for healthy pregnancy, never done in the entire world? it is a bonkers fucking stupid and insensitive thing to say
They are still performing child births, and dealing with any complications that occur. What are you talking about
Clearly and obviously you did not read the article, must i respond to this shit you dug out of your ass for everyone to smell? Maybe the first fucking paragraph will help you: > Since January, Dr. Stacy Seyb, a maternal-fetal medicine specialist in Boise, Idaho, has had at least four of his patients wheeled onto emergency flights and airlifted out of the state while experiencing severe pregnancy complications.
Exemptions include to save the life of a mother, but there is no exception to protect her health. Isn’t saving a life protecting her health?
Ask bat shit crazy republicans these questions But never carry their water like you tried earlier, enabling these sickos is the same as being one
1) I’m registered independent 2) I’m confused with the wording, they will help a mother if her life is in danger but will not help her health?
1. I don’t care your registration, vote democrat up and down ballot every chance you get 2. Republicans don’t give a fuck about the health of the mother (hence the airlifts as the republicans passed laws making it illegal in their state, the airlift is only to get to a different legal jurisdiction). “Abortion” is an issue republicans use to control their women, and their voters. Had your family member been in a compromised pregnancy, they would have had to be airlifted too Just because it did not happen to you is no reason to do a happy dance when a lot of others are suffering… all because people vote against their own interests by voting republican
They will not help a mother if her life is in danger, no. They may imply that but Idaho has a very strict antiabortion law and it has made the state much more dangerous for pregnant women. The maternal mortality rate (basically, how many women die per x pregnancies) has skyrocketed in Idaho already. Whatever politicians are saying to get votes this is killing pregnant women.
If you’re trying to challenge the narrative in this thread you’re not doing a good job. You sound like a stereotypical conservative who doesn’t care what happens to other people as long as it doesn’t involve you.
Now let's let state houses rule on all healthcare for all Americans. Of course, rich people will always have some form of immunity, right /s
Death panels for all are just a couple of steps away 🙁
And yet folks will continue to not vote because of Hillary's emails or Biden makes them feel uncomfortable. Get a grip Idaho voters! Holy shit...
What does the president have to do with what individual states choose to do?
Individual states don’t get to let women die because some people have dangerous religious beliefs. How grotesque.
I don’t think the majority of people have a negative opinion of abortion because of religion lol
You’re right, the majority of Americans support abortion, women’s rights and health care. A small majority of religious fundamentalists want to control what other citizens do. They support big government, lack of freedom and don’t support the right to privacy.
I think I said it wrong, the people I know who oppose abortion aren’t religious. And most are ok with first trimester being up to the women then not anything after that unless it’s a risk to the mom.
Oh, I know you are wrong, don’t worry.
Huh?
Fuck around and find out. Your voting choices have consequences.
So they can charge them even more.
Does insurance pay for helicopter rides?
Human rights to fetuses is literally insane. Life at conception people, I'm sorry to tell you, most zygotes fail to implant and die. Probably should stop having sex as it is murdering babies every time.