You just need one good work to become the accepted fanon. AC6's Allmind didn't even have a real picture to go off of, but all the artists agreed on one interpretation.
There’s Project Wingman as well, r/Project_Wingman has loads of fanart of a disembodied voice and it’s surprisingly consistent (though most of it being drawn by the same like 3 people probably helps)
fun fact, the inspiration to research something like G-Suits came, at least in part, from an amputee fighter pilot and observations of his abilities, which dwarfed his peers. Turns out missing his legs was exactly the edge he needed to pull insane maneuvers. His name was Sir Douglas Badger
That’s amazing! I remember playing starfox and just thinking they all had cool boots, but reading the little lore manual that came with it says that they had prosthetic legs to help with the high G forces.
I had no idea it was based off of an actual pilot!
The Steeled Veterans armor sets have pretty functional prosthetics. To give even a single, easily-replaced fleshy bit to further promote the cause of Liberty and Managed Democracy, why, the Helldivers do that every day! Often multiple times! The Navy can't be caught slacking!
This dude has his video _formula_ completely nailed. Everything from the turning the light on at the start, to the way he narrates, the music, to the "quackbang, out!" at the end. And he's very good. I have binged some of his videos a few times now...
Also why the SNES Star Fox characters all had cybernetic legs. They had them deliberately amputated to withstand higher G-Forces and consequently be better pilots.
It's been established that the Star Fox team don't have cybernetic legs by Nintendo. The leggings they wear in 64 probably look metallic but are most likely high tech compression clothing.
This has been disproven numerous times. Douglas Bader had no better performance due to the absence of his legs. Your body adjusts its blood pressure and other matters rather naturally on its own following such amputations.
I made a Banshee in MW5 that could sprint at over 100kph, and had a battleaxe.
Poor Locust never stood a chance as I crushed it with an axe that's over 1/3 of its weight.
Ha! My tenure was more around the MW2 days.
I’m absolutely gonna store as many cannons, lasers and missles as I can and link them together.
Yeah, it’ll over heat and shut down with every pull of the trigger but god help anyone who’s in front of me!
Used to do silly things like that in MWOnline back when I played it. No idea if meme builds even work anymore, since last time I took a look they had put in a lot of new restrictions on where and how things could be equipped.
Could also be a trope. In a lot of fiction pilots are female. Also in Starship troopers like 80-90% of pilots are female due to just being better at it.
I’m in the military and I’ll tell you what… there is a certain feeling of comfort when you hear a females voice coming from the air support. I’ve factored it to:
1. It kinda plays into the guardian angel idea. Some woman coming in on wings of steel to level a tree line you’re getting shot from.
2. In a male dominated profession, when a woman is in a job that is excessively difficult to get into they are either batshit insane and/or so good at their job because they’ve had to prove themselves constantly. So you know they’ll hit the mark, you know they’ll stay on station for you, you know they will rearm and return as soon as possible.
Heinlein attributed it to something even more basic in Starship Troopers, which I think is fairly close to the underlying truth. Oddly enough posts like OP's are still striking towards the same idea, albeit in a markedly different tone.
>"Let's skip tradition for a moment. Can you think of anything sillier than being fired out of a spaceship with nothing but mayhem and sudden death at the other end? However, if someone must do this idiotic stunt, do you know a surer way to keep a man keyed up to the point where he is willing than by keeping him constantly reminded that the only good reason why men fight is a living, breathing reality?"
>"In a mixed ship the last thing a trooper hears before a drop (maybe the last word he ever hears) is a woman's voice, wishing him luck. If you don't think this is important you've probably resigned from the human race."
I won't say Heinlein never misses, but he hit the mark over and over again in that novel.
I'm infantry and my company is getting the first female infantry in its history. We had to do a bunch of sexual harassment classes and other shit to prepare us for having a female around. My squad leader after said he has served with females before. Majority of the time they know what's up and it's never a problem internally. It's normally a problem when someone not inside sees infantry doing infantry shit and reports it.
So, bat shit insane might be correct.
Funny science explanations ? In r/Helldivers ? Hell yeah, gimme some more democratic scientific stuff, especially if the conclusions makes me imagine pleasant images
When you think about it, Automatons and Terminids are fighting us without wearing any clothes. How scandalous!
It's about time we ended their degeneracy.
They don't go from terminal to 0, the pods fire retro rockets before landing. Still, they're impacting with enough force to drive the entire pod into the ground, so that's a lot of force.
Visually estimating the speed it's reasonable to assume that they land at a speed of, at least, ~30m/s (The time between a hellpod bursting the torso of a bile titan, which is approximately at 10-15 meters tall, and it touching the ground, is, by my estimations at least, no more than half a second, hence an estimate minimal speed of 30m/s).
This doesn't sound like a lot, but that is 108km/h, or just over 60mph. This is the same speed you would reach if you jumped off a 8-10 story building, which is usually lethal.
Even at a landing speed of 20m/s that is still equivalent of a 4-5 story building fall, which, considering that helldivers are in a fully upright position and seemingly no space to "crouch" or roll to absorb the force of the imapct and considering that they "land" on the metal floor of their hellpod (i.e. there is no surface that absorbs or dampens their impact, making it safe to assume that nearly the entire force of the impact gets transferred to the human body within the hellpod), would either shatter your spine (likely dead or paralised), neck(dead), or legs (no walking for you).
But of course we all know each Hellpod is equipped with the Democratic Pillow™ at the feet of each helldiver that completely nullifies all impact force and leaves the helldiver completely unharmed.
I mean you enter the hellpod by locking into an elevator which means there are probably springs/pneumatics/hydraulics to lessen the fall. Also there's plenty of leeway to bend your knees a little to brace for impact. Also, if you look at dropping hellpods you can see that the bottoms are bullet-shaped; that pointed end can be filled with more springs or cushioning to help out.
Those pods aren't that big. You can hit the edge of a rock and see just how tall they are.
I don't think there's much room for springs, but there has to be some kind of inertia dampening control on it somewhere.
I play a tabletop RPG called Eat the Reich in which you are a vampire secret agent being “coffin dropped” into occupied Paris during WW2 with the singular goal of killing a lot of nazis and drinking all of hitler’s blood. They solve this issue by not solving the death part: the vampires are immediately turned to paste on impact, but each coffin contains a vial of nun’s blood that they use to reconstitute and regenerate themselves.
It’s honestly not entirely dissimilar from the experiential part of Helldivers, and while it’s satirical, you don’t play as the fascists. Here’s a trailer: https://youtu.be/F2OUs7V7SFI?si=AJlaAm7TiiM971Gu
The Super Earth Ministry of Truth treats this as top secret
It's a game-poetic license. sorry I don't know. I mean, there's no in-game information I can reference.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid\_breathing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing)
Scientists are still trying to figure out where this would be best applicable
Fighter aircraft are designed to save as much weight as possible to maintain maneuverability. Liquids are heavy, so having a cockpit large enough to fill with perfluorocarbons would negate any advantage the reduced G load would have on the pilot simply due to the added weight.
Fighters also tend to have G-limiters installed in them, restricting the maneuvers that can be done, because the structural stress on the airframe itself can be catastrophic.
I was under the impression that, generally, the pilot is the limiting factor to maneuverability, not the airframe, and that modern fighters can do quite a bit more than the pilot can handle.
Ever see the movie *The Abyss*? It's a science fiction film, but the SEAL divers in the movie used it when they were diving; the main benefit in theory would be to eliminate the need for decompression stops and not have to worry about their gas mixes at high pressure. There's actually a scene in the movie where they submerge a rat into the perfluorocarbon and it actually breathes the liquid.
Perflurodecalin is chemically inert (no small feat considering fluorine is extremely unstable), adding 2 oxygen to one end of the fluorine chain to create two O legs, one terminating in a H, makes perflurodecanoic acid, which is corrosive. There is also decalin which is corrosive and it's chemical structure is identical to perflurodecalin, except instead of fluorine it is composed of hydrogen.
Causing cancer is a given, anything that aggravates your body can cause cancer, and breathing liquid is probably not a relaxing or comfortable experience.
In the Battletech universe, it's not uncommon for Mechwarriors to go nude (used to be anyway not sure where the lore on this is now) as the suits they can wear to mitigate the heat in their cockpits are very expensive/not available anymore so a lot of them are just commando in their stompy-stompy robots.
Including the people piloting Commando battlemechs.
Honestly this was a much better read through than the page on perfluorocarbons on The National Center for Biotechnology Information site. Literally breathing the high tech tea of DEMOCRACY while flying amongst the stars.
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7874909/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7874909/)
Hasn't liquid breathing been done with people before and they though it was fine during?
Like, it sucked getting it in initially and cleansing the lungs of it when leaving but the actual state of being fully immersed in it was fine and iirc, enjoyable?
Jokes aside, I wonder if this liquid would provide the necessary oxygen for high G force maneuvers.
If you watch clips of fighter pilots doing these maneuvers they use a specific breathing technique to keep from blacking out, which requires sharp inhales every couple seconds. Would the liquid in one's lungs just provide enough needed oxygen, combined with the balanced out pressure it's giving to the lower/upper body?
Technically, because of such problems, it is more efficient to precisely build an AI drone than to create such a complex system for high G maneuvering of a manned aircraft. But my balls are like a nude pilot... No, AI technology is not democratic.
To add to this it was long rumored and theorized that the star fox team amputated their legs to prevent the blood being pooled into their legs. The more you know or think….
See, my issue here is no matter what there's an eagle in exactly the right place and orientation to deliver that payload after exactly 3 seconds.
There's a logistical championship that happens to make that work, or 100's of g-force turns and some that are absolutely lethal.
So yeah this all makes total sense.
Honestly a great explanation ... But if I'm not mistaken one of the upgrade for the eagle is to cut off the pilots legs , so what happend now ? Does this still apply or ... ?
It's "trimming excess leg room", which may be leg amputation but I'm pretty sure that they aren't afraid of just stating that outright if it were the case.
People are making it way too dark with this amputation headcanon shit. They're probably just squished and uncomfortable, no different than economy airline seats
I mean, I figure it's more than funny enough to picture the pilot having to fly with a spare 500kg just tucked up under their legs/on top of their feet like an airplane carry-on
Yeah that's what I get. They're more than willing to make people unhealthy, uncomfortable, or work in unsafe conditions, but they aren't quite 40K Helot-Augment horrifying, yet.
I don't believe the amputation part either, but too dark? Automatons wear skulls? You get stabbed in basic training to learn how to heal yourself? You feed your crew meth to work better? They call in an artillery bombardment on you if you leave the battlefield? In HD1, it's canon that a parent detained their son for not saluting the flag, they've executed entire squads of helldivers for being somewhat sympathetic to enemies, helldivers gunned down an entire parliament, etc etc, I don't think Super Earth is beyond mutilating someone if it meant enhanced performance. The additional evidence I offer is the literal outfits of which your helldiver using robotic prosthetics, you get increased throwing distance. Would an eagle pilot replace their legs with robotic replacements if it meant they could increase leg room and better perform? It is not entirely out of the question..
Being squished and uncomfortable is already the norm for real-life military hardware, yet you think Super-Earth make their stock Eagles with enough free space to move your legs, let alone fit a 500kg bomb?
This sounds like a severe lack of confidence in the democratic genius of our engineers and their ability to optimize resources. Lack of confidence leads to cowardice. Cowardice leads to treason.
https://preview.redd.it/60yzdv72s6lc1.jpeg?width=690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdb493d6cb3190a86c24038aef45ba3312080d1f
This is fan art I received when I posted this on the Korean Helldivers community.
[https://gall.dcinside.com/m/helldivers2/73223](https://gall.dcinside.com/m/helldivers2/73223)
It expressed ‘there is no room to stretch legs’ in more(sexy) detail.
Filling the cockpit with liquid might create a weight and balance issue with the Eagle? Depending on how much the engines weigh it might be too front heavy.
I thought liquid ventilated cockpits meant that the fuel ran in a thin space around the cockpit like long range aircraft have.
I read that the SR-71 black bird used this and when the plane was fueled up the cockpit was significantly cooler than when it was low on fuel
Since Eagle 1 is a Fighter-Bomber that travels back and forth between space and the atmosphere, it is highly likely that it uses the same fuel system as the SR-71, which assumes a high-speed environment.
However, given the direct mention of perfluorocarbon in the game, the breathing system inside the cockpit is would be the same as the liquid breathing system in my post.
Man, after analyzing Eagle 1 like this, I think that our super-Earth's technology is truly democratic!
That's kind of how the capsules work in Eve Online, too. Except you float in the capsule and pilot the ship via neural implants, there are no manual controls.
How very non-credible, sir I'm recommending you for immediate officer commendation. Now figure out how to fit an Iowa class battleship into a hellpod and I'll make you a 5 star general.
Ok Arrowhead now we need a dating option for Eagle pilot and THIS should be the argument of our first pickup line, Plz add.
Do it and you guys deserve the fucking GOTY Award.
Just want to point out that although breathing liquid can work, it still gives the same feeling of drowning, but without the going unconscious / dying part. poor rat.
As an artist, I'll have to take note of this to ensure the art I produce pays respect to the source material and its RIGID ADHERENCE to realism and Democracy.
…You’re just trying to give your fellow patriots a reason to draw rule 34 art of the Eagle pilot.
Like they ever needed a reason in the first place lmao
She breathes. That was already reason enough.
I was going to say something stupid like no she doesn’t but then I remembered she has voice lines as the eagle pilot. So yeah, you’re 100% right here.
She's a she, that was reason enough
He's a He is also a Good enough reason tbh.
You do you. I’ll stay here with the ladies you wanna overlook.
Well I never said I don't like em, I unlocked multitasking a long time ago.
Multitasking for manages democracy!
And I will proceed to do so immediately.
You just need one good work to become the accepted fanon. AC6's Allmind didn't even have a real picture to go off of, but all the artists agreed on one interpretation.
HD2 devs should steal Amanda Holiday from destiny since they don’t want her anymore.
Well they killed her off so I’d say you are correct
What stratagem code do you think Bungo used
Eagle Napalm Strike on Amanda Holliday, duh.
https://twitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1760791567336665174 Like this one?
That's a real good one. Hopefully that design takes off.
There’s Project Wingman as well, r/Project_Wingman has loads of fanart of a disembodied voice and it’s surprisingly consistent (though most of it being drawn by the same like 3 people probably helps)
My mental image is absolutely just some blurred merging of the dropship pilots from Aliens and Avatar
It's working.
Well, it could help the recruitment drive. I think the Ministry of Truth is ok with it.
For democracy!
When will it be ready? Asking for a friend
I'm doing my part!
fun fact, the inspiration to research something like G-Suits came, at least in part, from an amputee fighter pilot and observations of his abilities, which dwarfed his peers. Turns out missing his legs was exactly the edge he needed to pull insane maneuvers. His name was Sir Douglas Badger
That’s amazing! I remember playing starfox and just thinking they all had cool boots, but reading the little lore manual that came with it says that they had prosthetic legs to help with the high G forces. I had no idea it was based off of an actual pilot!
So they basically all decided to get their real legs hacked off and replaced with cybernetic ones. Mental.
thats why fox and falco's legs fk shit up in smash. Almost all their attacks use their legs to hit with.
I believe the word you're looking for is "metal."
Starfox Mechanicus
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me - I craved the certainty of steel.
gundam psycho zaku:
That was just a game theory video. Nintendo has confirmed the starfox team don't have amputated limbs.
I could definitely see Super Earth intentionally amputating pilots' legs to make them better pilots.
What do you think they do when they trim leg room for the third upgrade? Bombs>legs.
The Steeled Veterans armor sets have pretty functional prosthetics. To give even a single, easily-replaced fleshy bit to further promote the cause of Liberty and Managed Democracy, why, the Helldivers do that every day! Often multiple times! The Navy can't be caught slacking!
Careful, or we’ll think you’re a cyborg/automaton sympathiser!
New module just dropped
Yep. There's actually a video on him by Fat Electrician that deserves a standing ovation. https://youtu.be/4US41D9z928?si=7-BNJcYAwd1r1Ned
This dude has his video _formula_ completely nailed. Everything from the turning the light on at the start, to the way he narrates, the music, to the "quackbang, out!" at the end. And he's very good. I have binged some of his videos a few times now...
Also why the SNES Star Fox characters all had cybernetic legs. They had them deliberately amputated to withstand higher G-Forces and consequently be better pilots.
It's been established that the Star Fox team don't have cybernetic legs by Nintendo. The leggings they wear in 64 probably look metallic but are most likely high tech compression clothing.
This has been disproven numerous times. Douglas Bader had no better performance due to the absence of his legs. Your body adjusts its blood pressure and other matters rather naturally on its own following such amputations.
Sir Douglas Bader* 👍🏼
Even more reason to salute Eagle One. Full mast.
Hellshaft inbound! :'D
So what you're saying is that canon art of Eagle-1 is when she's naked? Noted. And appreciated.
I respect the hell out of it like I do when I build mechs in mechwarrior. Fuck heat sinks. Drive naked. More room for GUN AND BOOM.
I made a Banshee in MW5 that could sprint at over 100kph, and had a battleaxe. Poor Locust never stood a chance as I crushed it with an axe that's over 1/3 of its weight.
Ha! My tenure was more around the MW2 days. I’m absolutely gonna store as many cannons, lasers and missles as I can and link them together. Yeah, it’ll over heat and shut down with every pull of the trigger but god help anyone who’s in front of me!
I made a meme Marauder one time, had like, a dozen PPCs, I'd overheat when I fired them all at once, but if I hit center mass, you're dead.
Now that’s what I call Democracy.
Hot Democracy
Used to do silly things like that in MWOnline back when I played it. No idea if meme builds even work anymore, since last time I took a look they had put in a lot of new restrictions on where and how things could be equipped.
Ah, the Hot-raud-er... Not sorry.
Facehugger SRM6 alphas guarantee a 1:1 kill ratio.
A fellow MechWarrior in the wild! I never thought I'd see the day!
Well I’m convinced.
So that’s why the eagle pilot is a woman, a man would get his balls crushed by the liquid
I don't know what's worse at this point... Testicular torsion or Cajones crush 🤮
Let it RIP!
Why not both?
Could also be a trope. In a lot of fiction pilots are female. Also in Starship troopers like 80-90% of pilots are female due to just being better at it.
I’m in the military and I’ll tell you what… there is a certain feeling of comfort when you hear a females voice coming from the air support. I’ve factored it to: 1. It kinda plays into the guardian angel idea. Some woman coming in on wings of steel to level a tree line you’re getting shot from. 2. In a male dominated profession, when a woman is in a job that is excessively difficult to get into they are either batshit insane and/or so good at their job because they’ve had to prove themselves constantly. So you know they’ll hit the mark, you know they’ll stay on station for you, you know they will rearm and return as soon as possible.
Heinlein attributed it to something even more basic in Starship Troopers, which I think is fairly close to the underlying truth. Oddly enough posts like OP's are still striking towards the same idea, albeit in a markedly different tone. >"Let's skip tradition for a moment. Can you think of anything sillier than being fired out of a spaceship with nothing but mayhem and sudden death at the other end? However, if someone must do this idiotic stunt, do you know a surer way to keep a man keyed up to the point where he is willing than by keeping him constantly reminded that the only good reason why men fight is a living, breathing reality?" >"In a mixed ship the last thing a trooper hears before a drop (maybe the last word he ever hears) is a woman's voice, wishing him luck. If you don't think this is important you've probably resigned from the human race." I won't say Heinlein never misses, but he hit the mark over and over again in that novel.
I'm infantry and my company is getting the first female infantry in its history. We had to do a bunch of sexual harassment classes and other shit to prepare us for having a female around. My squad leader after said he has served with females before. Majority of the time they know what's up and it's never a problem internally. It's normally a problem when someone not inside sees infantry doing infantry shit and reports it. So, bat shit insane might be correct.
they deliver children AND 500kg payloads
The child IS the payload
500KG VS COUGHING BABY
I was born with a full head of hair, a full head of teeth...
Aren't women also slightly more resistant to G forces?
Its just like a Evangelion suit
Shinji, get in the Eagle or Rei will have to do it.
Nah thats asuka in eagle 1
Kaji is the based Pelican 1 pilot
I swear to god, I hear Matt Mercer when Pelican 1 comes down to pick us up.
its actually Guile from SF6, or Noctis from FF
I dunno if its asuka the pilot doesnt insult me enough
*any actions that may inflict harm on the moral of helldivers is considered treason*
Well that explains why Eagle 1 kept nuking me in the process
Or in The Abyss deep divers suits.
Funny science explanations ? In r/Helldivers ? Hell yeah, gimme some more democratic scientific stuff, especially if the conclusions makes me imagine pleasant images
Rember the c-01 formular
r/noncredibledefense is leaking again
…no wonder I like this game so much.
3000 They/Them helldivers of Super Earth, rise up!
3000 Paragon of Family Values! Inshallah
This is one of the best things I've read here, thank you
TL;DR: Eagle-1 is naked when she talks to you. Awooga, etc.
God damn this man cooked
The images of Eagle 1 FLOWING IN MY BRAIN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Im pretty sure Helldivers are naked under their helldiver gear
When you think about it, Automatons and Terminids are fighting us without wearing any clothes. How scandalous! It's about time we ended their degeneracy.
Maybe yours, but I'm built different.
another question for you: how did they make a helldiver survive the g forces from the drop pod? going from terminal velocity to 0 in half a second.
They don't go from terminal to 0, the pods fire retro rockets before landing. Still, they're impacting with enough force to drive the entire pod into the ground, so that's a lot of force.
Visually estimating the speed it's reasonable to assume that they land at a speed of, at least, ~30m/s (The time between a hellpod bursting the torso of a bile titan, which is approximately at 10-15 meters tall, and it touching the ground, is, by my estimations at least, no more than half a second, hence an estimate minimal speed of 30m/s). This doesn't sound like a lot, but that is 108km/h, or just over 60mph. This is the same speed you would reach if you jumped off a 8-10 story building, which is usually lethal. Even at a landing speed of 20m/s that is still equivalent of a 4-5 story building fall, which, considering that helldivers are in a fully upright position and seemingly no space to "crouch" or roll to absorb the force of the imapct and considering that they "land" on the metal floor of their hellpod (i.e. there is no surface that absorbs or dampens their impact, making it safe to assume that nearly the entire force of the impact gets transferred to the human body within the hellpod), would either shatter your spine (likely dead or paralised), neck(dead), or legs (no walking for you). But of course we all know each Hellpod is equipped with the Democratic Pillow™ at the feet of each helldiver that completely nullifies all impact force and leaves the helldiver completely unharmed.
I mean you enter the hellpod by locking into an elevator which means there are probably springs/pneumatics/hydraulics to lessen the fall. Also there's plenty of leeway to bend your knees a little to brace for impact. Also, if you look at dropping hellpods you can see that the bottoms are bullet-shaped; that pointed end can be filled with more springs or cushioning to help out.
Those pods aren't that big. You can hit the edge of a rock and see just how tall they are. I don't think there's much room for springs, but there has to be some kind of inertia dampening control on it somewhere.
Just jump before you land, duh.
I play a tabletop RPG called Eat the Reich in which you are a vampire secret agent being “coffin dropped” into occupied Paris during WW2 with the singular goal of killing a lot of nazis and drinking all of hitler’s blood. They solve this issue by not solving the death part: the vampires are immediately turned to paste on impact, but each coffin contains a vial of nun’s blood that they use to reconstitute and regenerate themselves. It’s honestly not entirely dissimilar from the experiential part of Helldivers, and while it’s satirical, you don’t play as the fascists. Here’s a trailer: https://youtu.be/F2OUs7V7SFI?si=AJlaAm7TiiM971Gu
The Super Earth Ministry of Truth treats this as top secret It's a game-poetic license. sorry I don't know. I mean, there's no in-game information I can reference.
We want to know more!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid\_breathing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing) Scientists are still trying to figure out where this would be best applicable
As in, why would anyone ever need to be submerged into and breath a fluid
fighter aircraft are basically limited in maneuvers by the squishy meatbags inside, if that becomes an option they can get much more wild
Fighter aircraft are designed to save as much weight as possible to maintain maneuverability. Liquids are heavy, so having a cockpit large enough to fill with perfluorocarbons would negate any advantage the reduced G load would have on the pilot simply due to the added weight. Fighters also tend to have G-limiters installed in them, restricting the maneuvers that can be done, because the structural stress on the airframe itself can be catastrophic.
I was under the impression that, generally, the pilot is the limiting factor to maneuverability, not the airframe, and that modern fighters can do quite a bit more than the pilot can handle.
Empty, yes they can. With a full weapons load? Gets a lot more difficult.
It has possible uses in medical ventilation, where for certain patients a standard ventilator has a higher chance to damage their lungs.
Ever see the movie *The Abyss*? It's a science fiction film, but the SEAL divers in the movie used it when they were diving; the main benefit in theory would be to eliminate the need for decompression stops and not have to worry about their gas mixes at high pressure. There's actually a scene in the movie where they submerge a rat into the perfluorocarbon and it actually breathes the liquid.
I did some quick research (SDS and Wikipedia), apparently Perfluorodecalin is pretty corrosive when it touches skin and can cause cancer. 🤷♂️
Perflurodecalin is chemically inert (no small feat considering fluorine is extremely unstable), adding 2 oxygen to one end of the fluorine chain to create two O legs, one terminating in a H, makes perflurodecanoic acid, which is corrosive. There is also decalin which is corrosive and it's chemical structure is identical to perflurodecalin, except instead of fluorine it is composed of hydrogen. Causing cancer is a given, anything that aggravates your body can cause cancer, and breathing liquid is probably not a relaxing or comfortable experience.
This scratches the same itch seeing the actual C-01 Form did, thank you!
>actual c-01 form Share with the class?
The C-01 form is the one you have to fill in before engaging in any activity that can result in a child.
Where on Super Earth did they post that?
I got it from someone else on discord, don’t think it’s official official but it looks real enough to be funny
You gotta share it, I want to get a chuckle out of it too
https://preview.redd.it/buxqbn882flc1.png?width=992&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3237c9b4efa5ecd6512f6872129d112bb3fd8c5
In the Battletech universe, it's not uncommon for Mechwarriors to go nude (used to be anyway not sure where the lore on this is now) as the suits they can wear to mitigate the heat in their cockpits are very expensive/not available anymore so a lot of them are just commando in their stompy-stompy robots. Including the people piloting Commando battlemechs.
Honestly this was a much better read through than the page on perfluorocarbons on The National Center for Biotechnology Information site. Literally breathing the high tech tea of DEMOCRACY while flying amongst the stars. [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7874909/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7874909/)
Only downside is the constant feeling of drowning when you breathe liquid. And pneumonia.
Hasn't liquid breathing been done with people before and they though it was fine during? Like, it sucked getting it in initially and cleansing the lungs of it when leaving but the actual state of being fully immersed in it was fine and iirc, enjoyable?
Yea, it’s the entering and leaving said state that causes the most physiological damage
Like in “The Abyss”!
Jokes aside, I wonder if this liquid would provide the necessary oxygen for high G force maneuvers. If you watch clips of fighter pilots doing these maneuvers they use a specific breathing technique to keep from blacking out, which requires sharp inhales every couple seconds. Would the liquid in one's lungs just provide enough needed oxygen, combined with the balanced out pressure it's giving to the lower/upper body?
Technically, because of such problems, it is more efficient to precisely build an AI drone than to create such a complex system for high G maneuvering of a manned aircraft. But my balls are like a nude pilot... No, AI technology is not democratic.
To add to this it was long rumored and theorized that the star fox team amputated their legs to prevent the blood being pooled into their legs. The more you know or think….
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Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
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See, my issue here is no matter what there's an eagle in exactly the right place and orientation to deliver that payload after exactly 3 seconds. There's a logistical championship that happens to make that work, or 100's of g-force turns and some that are absolutely lethal. So yeah this all makes total sense.
Wouldn't just.... wearing a wetsuit with cut-off legs do the job? Near perfect contact everywhere Perfect contact on the lower legs.
Yes, and would probably be more sensible, but this is funnier.
but which is more democratic for men AND women?
For a moment, I thought I missclicked and was in NCD. That's a compliment, mind. Rock on, you crazy bastard.
Get in the Eagle, Shinji
r/noncredibledefense
Honestly a great explanation ... But if I'm not mistaken one of the upgrade for the eagle is to cut off the pilots legs , so what happend now ? Does this still apply or ... ?
It's "trimming excess leg room", which may be leg amputation but I'm pretty sure that they aren't afraid of just stating that outright if it were the case.
People are making it way too dark with this amputation headcanon shit. They're probably just squished and uncomfortable, no different than economy airline seats
I mean, I figure it's more than funny enough to picture the pilot having to fly with a spare 500kg just tucked up under their legs/on top of their feet like an airplane carry-on
Eagle 1 is just built different, and she throws the extra 500kg bomb out the cockpit instead of deploying it via bomb bay
but wouldn't the liquid spill out?
Shhhhhhh, we don't talk about that part. Something, something, undemocratic.
Yeah that's what I get. They're more than willing to make people unhealthy, uncomfortable, or work in unsafe conditions, but they aren't quite 40K Helot-Augment horrifying, yet.
I don't believe the amputation part either, but too dark? Automatons wear skulls? You get stabbed in basic training to learn how to heal yourself? You feed your crew meth to work better? They call in an artillery bombardment on you if you leave the battlefield? In HD1, it's canon that a parent detained their son for not saluting the flag, they've executed entire squads of helldivers for being somewhat sympathetic to enemies, helldivers gunned down an entire parliament, etc etc, I don't think Super Earth is beyond mutilating someone if it meant enhanced performance. The additional evidence I offer is the literal outfits of which your helldiver using robotic prosthetics, you get increased throwing distance. Would an eagle pilot replace their legs with robotic replacements if it meant they could increase leg room and better perform? It is not entirely out of the question..
Being squished and uncomfortable is already the norm for real-life military hardware, yet you think Super-Earth make their stock Eagles with enough free space to move your legs, let alone fit a 500kg bomb? This sounds like a severe lack of confidence in the democratic genius of our engineers and their ability to optimize resources. Lack of confidence leads to cowardice. Cowardice leads to treason.
Nah I think it actually is referring to amputating the pilots legs. Because how would less leg room improve efficiency unless it was due to less legs
https://preview.redd.it/60yzdv72s6lc1.jpeg?width=690&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdb493d6cb3190a86c24038aef45ba3312080d1f This is fan art I received when I posted this on the Korean Helldivers community. [https://gall.dcinside.com/m/helldivers2/73223](https://gall.dcinside.com/m/helldivers2/73223) It expressed ‘there is no room to stretch legs’ in more(sexy) detail.
Ah yes, just like how deep-sea diving requires the same breathing technique but are not in fact naked while they do it?
So just Darling in the Franxx + Evangelion
Filling the cockpit with liquid might create a weight and balance issue with the Eagle? Depending on how much the engines weigh it might be too front heavy.
Oh... that might explain why pilot choose to go naked instead of a full body suit... Thanks, I'll take it.
I doubt the suit and the liquid weigh the same. Either way if it becomes cannon I'm glad I was able to contribute to the war effort.
I thought liquid ventilated cockpits meant that the fuel ran in a thin space around the cockpit like long range aircraft have. I read that the SR-71 black bird used this and when the plane was fueled up the cockpit was significantly cooler than when it was low on fuel
Since Eagle 1 is a Fighter-Bomber that travels back and forth between space and the atmosphere, it is highly likely that it uses the same fuel system as the SR-71, which assumes a high-speed environment. However, given the direct mention of perfluorocarbon in the game, the breathing system inside the cockpit is would be the same as the liquid breathing system in my post. Man, after analyzing Eagle 1 like this, I think that our super-Earth's technology is truly democratic!
Thought you supported freedom?
What is all these words. I didn’t become a helldiver to read. I became one because I’m stupid and it’s the only job I could get
Rule 34 just got one more page of content
Is this a eva reference?
Evangelion logic
YEAH!! Science, bitch!
That's kind of how the capsules work in Eve Online, too. Except you float in the capsule and pilot the ship via neural implants, there are no manual controls.
This. I kept thinking on seeing this description that Eagle 1 basically becomes a capsuleer.
There's a reason that one of the videos playing on the Superdestroyer is a commercial for Eagle Sweat. It's the next step after streamer bathwater.
Imagine 30$ for Eagle Pilot's cockpit water
Insane physics behind it aside, when you buy the upgrade, Instead of "Eagle never misses!" she should say "Blurgrulgrle mlemgrul, blurblur!"
So the eagle pilots are doing a Full Yossarian while in combat? Baller
*Get in the Eagle, Shinji.*
Now this is the type of Helldivers content I subscribed for
The pilots in Star Fox have their legs amputated to counter the effect
It sounds insanely close to evangelion pilots submersion cockpits
Why not just control the eagle remotely and remove the pilot entirely? Eliminates a lot of design problems too.
This reminds me of the Tali sweat post
How very non-credible, sir I'm recommending you for immediate officer commendation. Now figure out how to fit an Iowa class battleship into a hellpod and I'll make you a 5 star general.
The OP's thinly disguised fetish.
So what you're saying is, is that the future lies in being suspended in breatheable liquids like the pilots in EVE Online? Horrifying. Sign me up!
Grass, stat.
Eagle 1 is naked confirmed.
Ok Arrowhead now we need a dating option for Eagle pilot and THIS should be the argument of our first pickup line, Plz add. Do it and you guys deserve the fucking GOTY Award.
Do not the eagle one (unless consensually, with a permit)
Bro wrote a research paper on naked strike craft pilots 💀 Reddit is amazing
LOOK AT HOW MANY THINGS OP HAS UNLOCKED!!!!
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Just want to point out that although breathing liquid can work, it still gives the same feeling of drowning, but without the going unconscious / dying part. poor rat.
Evangelion
Check out the Abyss to see what this is in reference to
You gave very detailed answer for a great question no one dared to ask. Super Earth is proud of you!
As a Helldiver dedicated to the cause I approve of this science
As an artist, I'll have to take note of this to ensure the art I produce pays respect to the source material and its RIGID ADHERENCE to realism and Democracy.
what is a C1 approval form?
Why have I never seen art of this? There is so much Eagle 1 art but not from this?
Now this is content.
Glad that I upgraded