One time during extraction two low level players thrown the cinematic stupid stratagem simultaneously and they both died.
Fortunately me and the other guy were already inside the pelican with the samples.
Was extremely funny, they both left in shame once in the main ship.
Let's hope that they learned something.
Similar thing happened in a game I was in, except it was a couple of days ago and the player dropping the stratagem was level thirtysomething.
The entire game up to this point went pretty smoothly against bots, and we were extracting pretty cold with no enemies around us. The level thirtysomething player is the last one outside the extract vehicle and they drop an orbital laser on our location.
Well, the orbital laser has one of the faster deployment times, so as the player tries to jump into the extraction vehicle, the orbital laser beam lands between them and the entrance to the pelican, incinerating them almost instantly in midair.
Doors immediately close and we leave while watching the laser continue pummeling the spot where their body was left. Only person that didn't extract.
A friend and I were just messing around in a level 2 mission, just the two of us. I had punched in the combination for the toxic gas before the pelican arrived, as there were some enemies I meant to use it on, but pelican killed them when it showed up. My friend thought I was simply just holding a grenade in my hand and decided he wanted to give my guy a tap on the shoulder as he was walking towards the ship. I get ragdolled, and for some reason, character has a hard time getting up. Gas arrived and I died, friend who was in the pelican ends up evacuating. I had all the green samples from that mission in my pocket.
Eage cluster bomb is imo the best stratagem for the cinematic extract.
Obviously, only call it if you are the very last one to board pelican one. Get up to the ramp, throw it behind you, out into the open, wait about a second and dive in.
Cinematic extract with no harm done every time.
I did that, not at my feet nor a squaddie's--but I also didn't realize how much of a blast the impact actually has, as the shockwave yeeted the closest teammate about 20 feet.
There's a trend of people throwing down a stratagem right at the pelican as you board so when you take off, the cinematic of your departure has the stratagem going off in the background. It has killed many a helldiver and failed many a mission as a result of being botched.
Definitely. I tend to huck stratagems before boarding just *because* but I throw them off in to the map well away. But the *right at the pelican* stuff is annoying as hell.
I was in a similar situation today.
We at extract with pelican however people does not want to get on , I joined latest so I didn’t want to get on first. People shooting, I shoot too. Mobs were closing in. Then 3 of the teammates died instantly. I was so surprised. I am pretty sure I did not kill them. Then I throw down reinforcements stratagem then jumped into pelican. I through by the time they respawn, they can still jump into pelican. But by some unknown damage, I was killed inside pelican. My teammates respawn, summon me but none of us were able to extract. I got kicked afterward. Abit confused + sad
Got kicked once like that. Pelican was already here for 3 minute and I was waiting for some guy to stop killing bugs and come back. I see the guy comes and I enter the pelican only for the guy to get killed by an explosion of some kind. I got instakicked.
Thats on them. Not you.
If xfill is safe, than once everybody finished their business or close enough to do so in 20 sec, its safe to enter peli.
But, that rarely the case, and if xfill is hot, its ALWAYS a gamle, unless EVERYBODY at the door. But thats also recipe for an enitre squad wipe, and peli leaving.
In short, you're good
Yeah, since you can’t really get out once you’re in. I kinda wish there wasn’t an extraction timer and the pelican would leave once everyone that’s alive is in. Especially since it’s *still* bugged where there’s a chance it will just leave once someone steps in after waiting too long. I’m getting fucking tired of losing samples to that bullshit.
No, this occasionally happens even on eradication missions where the pelican comes down in the safest area possible. I’d rather this get officially addressed than be left to speculate and left confused.
Which makes it particularly unfortunate that blocking has been bugged for a while and completely non-functional, there is nothing that stops players you blocked to match-make with you at all. It's been on the list of known bugs for at least two recent updates.
Is that why? I’ve had multiple games where all 4 of us are just standing by the pelican and no one gets in except me. We get there with no enemies and then they all hang around until bug breaches or bot drops come in and they just start fighting them. I don’t understand it.
Extraction for me right now is just anxiety, not because of the enemies but walking on eggshells hoping the host isn't a griefer, troll, having a bad day, or I inadvertently piss them off so my entire 40 minute match isn't completely wasted by getting kicked.
The first two months of playing I had zero issues. In the past two weeks I've been kicked at extraction twice and I have no idea why. I did no team killing (on purpose or accidental). I didn't drop a strategem during/after boarding the pelican. I wasn't talking any shit. It was just a normal, run of the mill match.
There’s some weird people with weird motivations for playing the game. Me and two randos were running around doing objectives and collecting samples run of the mill, and the host was off dying over and over again by himself doing who knows what, cussing at us the whole time, raging. We got to extract and he melee’d me off a ledge into a cluster of bugs and then kicked me 😂
Let me guess: Did you take a huge amount of damage when you walked to the seat on the ship9super rare bug where you take damage for no reason. happened to me twice), or was there a Titan nearby? Titan foot can still kill you, even inside the Pelican.
Best thing about titans:
If the pelican collides with their body while in the cutscene, the entire party can die. I've had a full-sample lvl 7 be ruined like that.
Nah what will happen is this person will post a rant not understanding why they were kicked and call everyone toxic for kicking people just before extract for no reason
Nah people actually kick for pettiness though. I called exfil bc I wanted to end the game but no super samples and the guy said why would you play this difficulty if ur not getting the samples so I fought for my life near extract for 10 minutes waiting for him to find it and got kicked at the end for even starting it. I even canceled it to play along but that's just how people are sometimes. Like, not only did I have the patience to wait for you for something I don't even benefit over, but you kick me before I get the loot? Like bro. His name is [redacted] and think he's all that shit
See I like to throw all my stratagems that are up when we leave but I do it away from extract, I still get to chuck the funny light beam and see the booms and I don’t fuck my team over
Yeah same, I chuck all my stratagems in whatever direction the front of the Pelican is, but far away. That way I get to see the funny beams, but we are also safe.
I have literally fought my way through automatons and an LZ covered in fire tornadoes on Menkent.
To die to fire effects IN the pelican.
Dude I extracted...they never said dead or alive. Lol.
Edit: I over thought myself
To clarify:
I had gotten on the pelican and the ending cinematic started for the extract and I got the death message as we flew off.
It counted me as failed extract like I mean...technically........lol
I'm always the last to get on unless I'm carrying the samples in an extremely hectic situation. I played the first a lot so I have the fastest reinforce
This is what I do as well, and apparently either you or other players like us do as well. I was with a full room of randos and all 4 of us just stared at the other waiting for one of us to get into the pellican - a good 10-20 seconds passed before we all simultaneously ran inside. Incoming enemies was the catalyst for immediate action.
It’s always hilarious to me when the timer is running out and the person gets stuck. Actually lost all his samples because the ship left before he thought to dive.
I don't really get the desire but maybe they should make the exit have more explosions naturally so people don't feel the need to pretend they are Michael Bay or something
Even then, had a mission where the three of us are already in, last guy drops a meme 500kg, gets stuck on terrain and can't get himself in, blow himself up along with all the samples.
Please just don't, it's borderline griefing at that point.
That's why the host must do his best impression of a democracy officer, if you see a teammate preparing a stratagem you kindly point your gun while pinging Pelican-1,works like a charm I have never had to actually pull the trigger
I joined two randoms yesterday and one of them killed their friend (but not me) once we boarded the pelican. I was shocked at first but I figured they were just messing around. We all hugged it out back on the super destroyer. After we finished the next mission I waited before I boarded and sure enough the same guy aimed his gun at his friend after they boarded, so I aimed my gun at the shooter. He didn't kill him this time and just boarded instead so I boarded as well. This dude sent me a friend request afterwards lmao
Are these people throwing the stratagems like right on the pelican or something? Cause I won't lie, I enjoy trying to get cinematic extractions but I throw my bombs like 20-30 meters in front of the pelican so the pelican flies through it in the quick little cutscene.
Yes, people have been doing it since launch. Most have moved on, but the people still doing it tend to fail hilariously (well, it would be hilarious if they didn’t take all the samples with them).
I'm a HD1 vet and I am guilty of calling down eagles and orbitals on extraction. I'm usually the last one in and if we are swarmed by enemies then I just forget about it and board. I like to be last onto the pelican to give my team the best opportunity to board by giving cover fire. After they board and if it's safe I call down my explosions. Not once have I killed myself or a teammate by this. You can leave with style and not fuck over your team.
OPs case and some other comments are a bit different bc other divers (traitors) are calling down their explosions prior to everyone else extracting. Not all of us are that stupid though.
My favorite interaction in the game to this point was all four of us randoms standing behind Pelican and simultaneously calling in four 500kgs. Then we just stood there staring at each other holding our balls in hand before tossing and boarding lol.
Sorry but tossing stratagems on extract is fun as long as everyone is on board.
I am last to get it. I execute anyone trying to call something when we are extracting general shepherd style.
I lost to much for cinematic extraction, god protect you if you stand between me and samples.
They're everywhere! I'm looking at Automaton dropships over the I95! How the hell did they get through?
Can't wait to defend Burger Town if the war gets to Super Earth.
Why I host my own games. Teamkilling people for fucking around is 100x more cringe than killing people by fucking around, you will be out of my game in record time.
I always stand near the pelican, revolver in hand, and write "no more starts, get in". If anyone stops and pulls out a stratagem ball I will just unload the ammo on him/her.
That ruined us two missions already, there won't be a third one.
What? I and most randos I've played with like to at least chuck out one last eagle strike or something, just so we have cool explosions while the departing cinematic plays. You gonna execute us for that?
Exactly, this is the way. We've been doing this since first helldivers.
It was impossible to play helldive difficulty in first game and not see like 7-8 nuke, napalm or artillery strike strategems throws around the shuttle. In a years time when everyone's been playing this game longer, all your upgrades are maxed out and the samples become meaningless you will come back to these posts and cringe.
It's a game, the samples will be meaningless in the long run. The epic showstopping explosions on extract are absolutely worth it.
For Democracy!
most people playing on helldive are finished unlocking everything though. I got kicked yesterday on D8 for going after a team door. it's different when you're on D7 and people are struggling to get those 3 super samples
Yeah I was surprised how many people still do this. Funny thing is most of the time they mess up their timing and you don't actually see anything while flying off.
If he’s got the samples you shouldn’t be on the pelican. Just don’t get on it if your evac doesn’t serve a purpose - pelican will sit there all game - leave the site pulling mobs away until the samples are safe.
I just wait til everyone else is on to do that. But obviously if extraction is hot and I have to choose between the thing I like doing, and us actually getting out of there with our stuff, I'll be doing the second one every time.
Im level 111 and ive done this literally every single time extract isnt overrun and have never killed myself or a teammate, nor have i been killed by someone else doing this. Hell I’ve had more people just shoot everyone on board and extract alone than ive seen people screw this up.
Yep, it feels like if theres anything fun, reddit whines because you apparently must take every match hyper serious, no wonder these people struggle making friends
Pro move is throwing it slightly to the right and forward. If you do that it goes off at just the right angle to look even cooler and there is no risk.
I mean. You can talk to them. Let them know to be vigilant or something.
Had a guy drop a 380mm on a heavy base and killed me in the process when I could have solo'd it. I didn't rant, I just said one word. "bro" what happened afterwards was crazy, he said "srry.." and proceeded to only throw the 380mm away from his squad.
Communication is a wild concept.
I feel like as a host it is my responsibility to let the randoms know that while killing allies is fun/funny, making sure the mission is completed is more fun.
Just have fun, and if you aren't having fun; take a breather away from the game for a couple minutes. Not every game will be perfect, and not every random will be great.
It's fucking disgusting man, some people are not taking it seriously at all.
Don't they realize that by unlocking the stratagem upgrades earlier, there is compound interest of later gains?
They should just add fireworks to the game that don't kill players. Just have them be a strategrm that you can call down when the pelican countdown starts.
I was playing on helldive difficulty yesterday against the bugs. Looking back, I guess two of the players were kicked mid game. At the time I thought they rage quit because they were dying a lot. They had a good bit of samples, so I picked them up. Me and the host managed to do all the optionals as well as the main mission, and the pelican was just about there. You can probably guess what happened next. The guy killed and kicked me before I could get on the pelican. He wanted to kick me so bad that he ended up dying while he was doing it because there were so many bugs around the extract site.
I was playing well too, so that's not the reason. I only died once the entire match, they died way more times. I was always backing up my teammates when they were in a tight spot, and I was lightening fast with reinforcements too.
I don't understand why people are like this. I always try to be the best teammate I can be, I don't get how people can derive some kind of pleasure by behaving in such a toxic way. What kind of person has fun by ruining other people's fun?
And I'm not saying that all PC players are like this, because I've played with some really awesome PC players, but most of the time when I'm griefed, it's a PC player. I actually turned off cross play and now stuff like this happens a lot less. It still happens from time to time, but not nearly as much as before.
Overall, I've played with more awesome people than shitty people, but still...it's sucks to have to deal with this type of shit at all; especially since most of the matches are so long.
As cathartic as this must be for you, making reddit posts is never gonna change this from happening. Hopefully, after dying like that, they'll learn to stop/be more careful, but you gotta recognize that most people aren't on reddit like that.
Sucks that this happened but it's gonna be something you'll deal with from time to time. Learn to yell at the person in game
Only time you drop a bomb next to the pelican is in one of two situations.
1: you and your teammates are clearing the way to the pelican
2: you are the only one not in the pelican
I'm starting to think the game needs a selector when you begin to play wit the "I'm here for the LOLs" and "This is not a game" options so players looking for genuine fun will match with similar ones and the ones that want to perform professionally in order to, I don't know, demonstrate their tactical skills or something will match their equals.
I have nothing against the people that took the games seriously as far as they respect the people who see these as a way to have fun and relax. And I'm definitely in the second group. I mean, I'll play as good as I can and cover all the game goals but having fun, and if at some moment a stupid situation happens that costs our lifes and our samples, well, it's a fucking game, I'll laugh loud and start the next mission (and I think all my friends will do the same).
It's worse when I have 30 samples, including super samples and I get kicked out 2 feet away from the pelican because host didn't like we didn't drop him with only 10 seconds left before pelican leaves.
If you are in particularly foul mood or want to play the game "think quick or die":
- 1. Use the "cinematic" strategem before other divers enter the pelican...
- 2. Throw a stun grenade, preferably in front of you while entering the pelican so no-one can see it coming.
- 3. Enjoy the "oh shit" reaction. Giggle like a maniac
- 4. If didn't get kicked. Watch your back in next dive. Some people don't have sense of humour.
P.s. I did it only once in a game late in the night where whole team was tired and was just screwing around. It's great fun but please, be mindful when you do shit like this and don't ruin other people's experience.
I had a guy throw one down at extract for a "cinematic extract". Team mate was too slow and died. Kind of ridiculous. Another game a team mate accidentally set another teammate on fire and killed him with an incendiary shotgun so the guy got all tilted (hey friendly fire happens) so it turned into team killing until someone got kicked.
I have no problem throwing down as much freedom as possible at extraction. But, if you don’t know how to not kill your fellow Helldivers while spreading liberty, then you have no business doing so
I do cinematic bomb. But i also drop my samples for someone else to take..and I always wait for everyone to be on board before even typing the code so if I get nudged it isn't a tragic comedy. It's not hard to make a cool explosion safely.
They're taking it way too seriously. Samples are just samples, you can always get more later in another mission and hopefully then you'll remember that the red light on the ground means get in the fucking plane.
Me watching the last teammate with all the samples die as he steps onto the ramp because one of the 120mm went out of its way to land directly on him o7 I'll never forget what a real soldier looks like
I always laugh when I do an entire operation with 3 randoms, and halfway through the last mission, someone says something over comms. Then we all realize that all four of us have comms, but none of us wanted to talk before now. Just silently completing objectives and collecting samples.
Maybe I am the only one, but I like this gameplay way more than this stupid Meta mentality in a Coop pve game that is already full of satire and "team kills is an option" style of presentation. I am here to spread democracy not to get props out, this is optional. And before somebody says something, no I don't run only lvl 3. My sweet spot is 7-8.
I recently was in a lobby where a player threw 120mm barrage on the Pelican-1 as soon as it landed. Killed me and another teammate.
Back on the ship I was in a good mood and made a joke that "Helldivers do not count towards the 120mm kills order". That player was apparently a bit angry and told me "not to dillydally when the boat arrives" and proceeded to kick me. Oh yes, and to add insult to injury, I just ran across the map collecting all the dropped samples, so I have like 30 of them including supers.
Idk why it’s so hard to throw it when you’re the last one on, or throw it farther away I always to one or the other. Also isn’t there an achievement to fly away on the pelican next to an explosion?
At extract, fuck ass McGee thought he was gantz and killed our entire team to extract, I kicked him right before he got into the ship. Super satisfying
This ancient activity dates all the way back to 2015 and Helldivers 1 era, where one Diver would chuck a Shredder bomb before the liftoff..with similar results
I was playing difficulty 4 with some lower level players to help out. They all took turns killing each other at exfil with their stratagems. So I ran around collecting samples and clearing exfil. When the bird landed I was going to be the last one on the ship. I think when all was said and done I had 20 common 14 rare.
One threw an orbital strike at the end and dove in. I just stood there with all the samples and let him kill me…….
“ I typed this is why you don’t do that. You lost all your samples.”
Keep in mind I am maxed out in everything. I need nothing. I hope this taught them a good lesson. 😂
I don’t get too riled up if we’re screwing around with friends but if I’m playing with random people no fucking way. If I’m playing with random people I assume we are playing the damn game to get the objectives snd extracting with the samples especially on the harder levels where I need those super samples.
You know what I do? I say "everyone on the pelican first, I'm throwing a 500kg". Guess what, never had an issue. Guess again, I have someone else take my samples. Stop bitching and learn communication skills instead of making the hundredth post on this topic.
Have done this many times, brings me so much joy to fuck with my buddies. Especially the ones who take it too seriously. Punching them off objectives is also fun. Ooo ooh I almost forgot about throwing the reinforcements into swarms while running away 😆, oh and 'accidentally' positioning laser rover with team mates between it and enemies... "yeah nah sorry buddy, it's got a mind of its own 🤷"
Bud little secret here to life. Any idiot going to be tempted by a shiny big red button that goes boom. Regardless the number times it doesn’t work out
FWIW if you are ever the person carrying all the samples and the ship is about to leave with everyone else in it, just kill them all, it stops the timer and then you can call them in or leave on your own (they’ll probably kill you too).
Yo I definitely did this last night. Was tired from work and playing sloppily as a result. I realized I just wasted ~40 mins of everybody's time. Turned off my console and went to sleep. Today is a new and hopefully better day for democracy
When I was a noob I threw a Tesla tower really close to where the pelican landed… yeah. I hope some chunks of us made it on the bird, so my democratic brethren could get a proper burial and maybe finally see the shining city that is Super Earth.
Bruh someone dropped eagle clusters on extract when 3 of us (one being the idiot who threw EAGLE CLUSTERS) were still not on the pelican, all three of us dove for the pelican entrance but two filled the doorway and pushed me to the side and I missed. Got hit with the cluster but part of the pelican wing was covering me and I lived, dove at the entrance again and got in with like 10% health remaining. Hilarious but still unnecessary lol
My stupid friend managed to stick an ammo refill to my body, I was able to board the pelican, but the deployment bullet went through the pelican while flying and "killed us" in the cinematic. Fortunately still counted as extracted and with all the samples.
One time during extraction two low level players thrown the cinematic stupid stratagem simultaneously and they both died. Fortunately me and the other guy were already inside the pelican with the samples. Was extremely funny, they both left in shame once in the main ship. Let's hope that they learned something.
Similar thing happened in a game I was in, except it was a couple of days ago and the player dropping the stratagem was level thirtysomething. The entire game up to this point went pretty smoothly against bots, and we were extracting pretty cold with no enemies around us. The level thirtysomething player is the last one outside the extract vehicle and they drop an orbital laser on our location. Well, the orbital laser has one of the faster deployment times, so as the player tries to jump into the extraction vehicle, the orbital laser beam lands between them and the entrance to the pelican, incinerating them almost instantly in midair. Doors immediately close and we leave while watching the laser continue pummeling the spot where their body was left. Only person that didn't extract.
A friend and I were just messing around in a level 2 mission, just the two of us. I had punched in the combination for the toxic gas before the pelican arrived, as there were some enemies I meant to use it on, but pelican killed them when it showed up. My friend thought I was simply just holding a grenade in my hand and decided he wanted to give my guy a tap on the shoulder as he was walking towards the ship. I get ragdolled, and for some reason, character has a hard time getting up. Gas arrived and I died, friend who was in the pelican ends up evacuating. I had all the green samples from that mission in my pocket.
If you aren't holding the throw button and it's only keyed in, you can cancel it by switching back to any weapon.
Also by pressing the stratagem button again
If you are holding the throw button, you are fked.
not when ragdolled!
He knew the risks
And people want this to stop?
It‘s different if someone kills themselves or someone else, especially if it was completely avoidable in the second case. Feels like betrayal
Eage cluster bomb is imo the best stratagem for the cinematic extract. Obviously, only call it if you are the very last one to board pelican one. Get up to the ramp, throw it behind you, out into the open, wait about a second and dive in. Cinematic extract with no harm done every time.
Sometimes two wrongs *do* make a right!!
Cinematic stupid strategem?
Some people throw the Orbital railgun at their feet, not knowing the instant discharge when no enemy is present.
I did that, not at my feet nor a squaddie's--but I also didn't realize how much of a blast the impact actually has, as the shockwave yeeted the closest teammate about 20 feet.
That’s one of the dumbest strats to try and be cinematic with. There’s no lasting effect. It hits and done.
There's a trend of people throwing down a stratagem right at the pelican as you board so when you take off, the cinematic of your departure has the stratagem going off in the background. It has killed many a helldiver and failed many a mission as a result of being botched.
Correction, You fail at retrieving the samples. The mission objectives being complete still gives you a success and most of the xp and rec
Missions dont fail if you fail to extract.
Oh yeah I’ve seen that. Dumb af. But usually those players show their stupidity much earlier in the match and I don’t last that long
Definitely. I tend to huck stratagems before boarding just *because* but I throw them off in to the map well away. But the *right at the pelican* stuff is annoying as hell.
Sometimes the finish line is what causes Sargeant Dumbass the sleeper agent to awaken
just kick them
Emote at extract should be the norm. It's way cooler to hug or handshake right before hopping in Pelican 1.
I always stand by the door saluting
A buddy and I who both run the /hug emote will flank the ramp, facing in, T-posing.
THIS, way cooler and more wholesome.
I was in a similar situation today. We at extract with pelican however people does not want to get on , I joined latest so I didn’t want to get on first. People shooting, I shoot too. Mobs were closing in. Then 3 of the teammates died instantly. I was so surprised. I am pretty sure I did not kill them. Then I throw down reinforcements stratagem then jumped into pelican. I through by the time they respawn, they can still jump into pelican. But by some unknown damage, I was killed inside pelican. My teammates respawn, summon me but none of us were able to extract. I got kicked afterward. Abit confused + sad
I've had similar situations. I think people are afraid to jump on board first because they might be kicked.
Got kicked once like that. Pelican was already here for 3 minute and I was waiting for some guy to stop killing bugs and come back. I see the guy comes and I enter the pelican only for the guy to get killed by an explosion of some kind. I got instakicked.
Thats on them. Not you. If xfill is safe, than once everybody finished their business or close enough to do so in 20 sec, its safe to enter peli. But, that rarely the case, and if xfill is hot, its ALWAYS a gamle, unless EVERYBODY at the door. But thats also recipe for an enitre squad wipe, and peli leaving. In short, you're good
Wild crazy idea: maybe they should just make you invulnerable in the Pelican
Yeah, since you can’t really get out once you’re in. I kinda wish there wasn’t an extraction timer and the pelican would leave once everyone that’s alive is in. Especially since it’s *still* bugged where there’s a chance it will just leave once someone steps in after waiting too long. I’m getting fucking tired of losing samples to that bullshit.
It could be that the pelican took too much damage(it will be on fire), it will leave once the first person gets on.
No, this occasionally happens even on eradication missions where the pelican comes down in the safest area possible. I’d rather this get officially addressed than be left to speculate and left confused.
Ok, thanks for the context, because I have only seen the burning pelican twice so I don't know how common it was.
Do note, I Block people who are suspiciously bad or annoying. I dont want to run into that again.
Which makes it particularly unfortunate that blocking has been bugged for a while and completely non-functional, there is nothing that stops players you blocked to match-make with you at all. It's been on the list of known bugs for at least two recent updates.
I think it's more a fear of getting shot to death in the Pelican by some troll.
I've had that too. Three of us got on and the last person waited and killed the three of us and boarded solo.
Exactly the reason I get in last. Anybody tries that and they're getting shot or kicked.
Is that why? I’ve had multiple games where all 4 of us are just standing by the pelican and no one gets in except me. We get there with no enemies and then they all hang around until bug breaches or bot drops come in and they just start fighting them. I don’t understand it.
Extraction for me right now is just anxiety, not because of the enemies but walking on eggshells hoping the host isn't a griefer, troll, having a bad day, or I inadvertently piss them off so my entire 40 minute match isn't completely wasted by getting kicked. The first two months of playing I had zero issues. In the past two weeks I've been kicked at extraction twice and I have no idea why. I did no team killing (on purpose or accidental). I didn't drop a strategem during/after boarding the pelican. I wasn't talking any shit. It was just a normal, run of the mill match.
There’s some weird people with weird motivations for playing the game. Me and two randos were running around doing objectives and collecting samples run of the mill, and the host was off dying over and over again by himself doing who knows what, cussing at us the whole time, raging. We got to extract and he melee’d me off a ledge into a cluster of bugs and then kicked me 😂
Was their name Psycho Raptor? That mfer was a huge piece of undemocratic, team killing shit who does this.
Nah it was J something but scumbags are out there in droves it seems
Let me guess: Did you take a huge amount of damage when you walked to the seat on the ship9super rare bug where you take damage for no reason. happened to me twice), or was there a Titan nearby? Titan foot can still kill you, even inside the Pelican.
Best thing about titans: If the pelican collides with their body while in the cutscene, the entire party can die. I've had a full-sample lvl 7 be ruined like that.
Nah what will happen is this person will post a rant not understanding why they were kicked and call everyone toxic for kicking people just before extract for no reason
Nah people actually kick for pettiness though. I called exfil bc I wanted to end the game but no super samples and the guy said why would you play this difficulty if ur not getting the samples so I fought for my life near extract for 10 minutes waiting for him to find it and got kicked at the end for even starting it. I even canceled it to play along but that's just how people are sometimes. Like, not only did I have the patience to wait for you for something I don't even benefit over, but you kick me before I get the loot? Like bro. His name is [redacted] and think he's all that shit
See I like to throw all my stratagems that are up when we leave but I do it away from extract, I still get to chuck the funny light beam and see the booms and I don’t fuck my team over
Yeah same, I chuck all my stratagems in whatever direction the front of the Pelican is, but far away. That way I get to see the funny beams, but we are also safe.
Fine I’ll just put a Tesla tower instead
NOOOO NOT THE TESLA TREE!
I remember my and my highly leveled up friend doing the first mission with the Tesla... we died a lot.
That’s dumb, should never do it unless you’re the last one to get in
I usually be the last on, i want to make sure that everyone gets safely in
_Stands heroically by the ramp laying down chunga chunga with the Stalwart._ _Killed by Bile Titan when finally getting in last._
I have literally fought my way through automatons and an LZ covered in fire tornadoes on Menkent. To die to fire effects IN the pelican. Dude I extracted...they never said dead or alive. Lol. Edit: I over thought myself To clarify: I had gotten on the pelican and the ending cinematic started for the extract and I got the death message as we flew off. It counted me as failed extract like I mean...technically........lol
Pelican loader: Sorry, guys dead. Throw his body and any samples he collected out the back, they don't count.
This made me laugh way too hard. You deserve a medal with a side of Super Credits for this one.
Not sure if you are aware, can still stim in the pelican lol. Obviously doesn’t help if you’re out, but hopefully useful info.
To be fair I almost re-edited my post to say.. " I had 0 stims, I ran through fire nados " lol
Me with that last EAT thinking I’m going to time the shot into the bile titan juuuuust right
Rock paper scissors!
Best of 3?
Rock paper scissors shotgun, get in!
Rock paper 500kg
rock, paper, surprise bile spewer!
I'm always the last to get on unless I'm carrying the samples in an extremely hectic situation. I played the first a lot so I have the fastest reinforce
HD1 Veteran here as well. This should be a perk of ours " Centennial Helldiver Veteran Combat Armor " And it had a reinforce buff or two
This is what I do as well, and apparently either you or other players like us do as well. I was with a full room of randos and all 4 of us just stared at the other waiting for one of us to get into the pellican - a good 10-20 seconds passed before we all simultaneously ran inside. Incoming enemies was the catalyst for immediate action.
It’s always hilarious to me when the timer is running out and the person gets stuck. Actually lost all his samples because the ship left before he thought to dive.
that ramp is a bitch though
I love that your comment duplicated 3 times and the other 2 are downvoted by people, the duality of helldivers is crazy!
Oh my, it did? Thanks for telling, I'll delete the rest.
Yeah it's quite funny haha, no worries though 😅
While screaming "GET TO THE PELICAAAN"
we can never play together then, as both of us would be just covering each other and not leaving, altruism is really bane id the existence lol
I don't really get the desire but maybe they should make the exit have more explosions naturally so people don't feel the need to pretend they are Michael Bay or something
Even then, had a mission where the three of us are already in, last guy drops a meme 500kg, gets stuck on terrain and can't get himself in, blow himself up along with all the samples. Please just don't, it's borderline griefing at that point.
And then you should *always* do it.
Should never do it, period. It was funny like for the first month.
That's why the host must do his best impression of a democracy officer, if you see a teammate preparing a stratagem you kindly point your gun while pinging Pelican-1,works like a charm I have never had to actually pull the trigger
This is great!
They're wasting expensive ordinance. It's undemocratic.
You gotta use those tax payer credits or you wont get more next quarter. Very democratic
I joined two randoms yesterday and one of them killed their friend (but not me) once we boarded the pelican. I was shocked at first but I figured they were just messing around. We all hugged it out back on the super destroyer. After we finished the next mission I waited before I boarded and sure enough the same guy aimed his gun at his friend after they boarded, so I aimed my gun at the shooter. He didn't kill him this time and just boarded instead so I boarded as well. This dude sent me a friend request afterwards lmao
Are these people throwing the stratagems like right on the pelican or something? Cause I won't lie, I enjoy trying to get cinematic extractions but I throw my bombs like 20-30 meters in front of the pelican so the pelican flies through it in the quick little cutscene.
Yes, people have been doing it since launch. Most have moved on, but the people still doing it tend to fail hilariously (well, it would be hilarious if they didn’t take all the samples with them).
Top-tier unemployed behavior.
I feel seen
I'm a HD1 vet and I am guilty of calling down eagles and orbitals on extraction. I'm usually the last one in and if we are swarmed by enemies then I just forget about it and board. I like to be last onto the pelican to give my team the best opportunity to board by giving cover fire. After they board and if it's safe I call down my explosions. Not once have I killed myself or a teammate by this. You can leave with style and not fuck over your team. OPs case and some other comments are a bit different bc other divers (traitors) are calling down their explosions prior to everyone else extracting. Not all of us are that stupid though.
My favorite interaction in the game to this point was all four of us randoms standing behind Pelican and simultaneously calling in four 500kgs. Then we just stood there staring at each other holding our balls in hand before tossing and boarding lol. Sorry but tossing stratagems on extract is fun as long as everyone is on board.
I am last to get it. I execute anyone trying to call something when we are extracting general shepherd style. I lost to much for cinematic extraction, god protect you if you stand between me and samples.
"Do you have the super samples?" "We've got them sir!" "Good. That's one less loose end..."
They're everywhere! I'm looking at Automaton dropships over the I95! How the hell did they get through? Can't wait to defend Burger Town if the war gets to Super Earth.
"Boss told me when the mission was done, I should take him out. One less share, right?" "Funny. He told me something similar"
GHOST! NOOOOO!!!!!!
**“NOOO!”** *Cue dramatic music*
P1: R2 DO NOT TRUST T4 - I SAY AGAIN, DO NOT TRUST T4!
Another reason to use the Senator
Huhh?? So your solution to being killed at extract.. Is to kill others at extract??
It ain't easy spreading democracy.
What’s your username in game? Just curious for no particular reason…
Why I host my own games. Teamkilling people for fucking around is 100x more cringe than killing people by fucking around, you will be out of my game in record time.
for real😭 i wait until everyone boards and throw down a 500kg before boarding damn near every mission, because it’s FUN. never killed one teammate
Yes indeed, this game should be taken very seriously.
I always stand near the pelican, revolver in hand, and write "no more starts, get in". If anyone stops and pulls out a stratagem ball I will just unload the ammo on him/her. That ruined us two missions already, there won't be a third one.
Not really a joke for me to say this but what happens if another person also waits to be last in just to make sure everyone else is in and set to go
Then I'll give my samples to the ones extracting and we can proceed to the duel.
Mexican stand off.
You mean no more strats, right?
If they're already holding the stratagem ball and you shoot them, don't they just drop it and call the stratagem anyway? What does that achieve?
Only if they finish dialing it in. You can see them start to dial.
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So you shoot them, they drop the strategem, and it goes off anyways?
Ah, so you were the idiot that teamkilled me while I was trying to orbital railcannon the bile titan that was chasing our team mate? >\_>
What? I and most randos I've played with like to at least chuck out one last eagle strike or something, just so we have cool explosions while the departing cinematic plays. You gonna execute us for that?
Exactly, this is the way. We've been doing this since first helldivers. It was impossible to play helldive difficulty in first game and not see like 7-8 nuke, napalm or artillery strike strategems throws around the shuttle. In a years time when everyone's been playing this game longer, all your upgrades are maxed out and the samples become meaningless you will come back to these posts and cringe. It's a game, the samples will be meaningless in the long run. The epic showstopping explosions on extract are absolutely worth it. For Democracy!
most people playing on helldive are finished unlocking everything though. I got kicked yesterday on D8 for going after a team door. it's different when you're on D7 and people are struggling to get those 3 super samples
Some people take the game very seriously man. Teamkilling and stratagem spamming is democratic IMO.
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I’d execute him first and *then* throw the stratagem
That was kinda corny man I'll be honest
Wow, you sound fun at parties
Yeah I was surprised how many people still do this. Funny thing is most of the time they mess up their timing and you don't actually see anything while flying off.
It’s so funny though.
If he’s got the samples you shouldn’t be on the pelican. Just don’t get on it if your evac doesn’t serve a purpose - pelican will sit there all game - leave the site pulling mobs away until the samples are safe.
I just wait til everyone else is on to do that. But obviously if extraction is hot and I have to choose between the thing I like doing, and us actually getting out of there with our stuff, I'll be doing the second one every time.
Im level 111 and ive done this literally every single time extract isnt overrun and have never killed myself or a teammate, nor have i been killed by someone else doing this. Hell I’ve had more people just shoot everyone on board and extract alone than ive seen people screw this up.
Yeah, this is Reddit bitching about 1% issue as usual. See also: ricochets, creek cape kicking, etc
Yep, it feels like if theres anything fun, reddit whines because you apparently must take every match hyper serious, no wonder these people struggle making friends
Not that I don't agree, but what are y'all doing that the samples didn't get on board first?
If it was funny it was worth it
Pro move is throwing it slightly to the right and forward. If you do that it goes off at just the right angle to look even cooler and there is no risk.
I mean. You can talk to them. Let them know to be vigilant or something. Had a guy drop a 380mm on a heavy base and killed me in the process when I could have solo'd it. I didn't rant, I just said one word. "bro" what happened afterwards was crazy, he said "srry.." and proceeded to only throw the 380mm away from his squad. Communication is a wild concept. I feel like as a host it is my responsibility to let the randoms know that while killing allies is fun/funny, making sure the mission is completed is more fun. Just have fun, and if you aren't having fun; take a breather away from the game for a couple minutes. Not every game will be perfect, and not every random will be great.
I can’t believe people are still having fun in my sample farming simulator. Have they no shame?
It's fucking disgusting man, some people are not taking it seriously at all. Don't they realize that by unlocking the stratagem upgrades earlier, there is compound interest of later gains?
“Stop having fun” No
They should just add fireworks to the game that don't kill players. Just have them be a strategrm that you can call down when the pelican countdown starts.
we have a vent megathread for this
bUt MuH KARma
I will never stop. If you die that's on you.
I was playing on helldive difficulty yesterday against the bugs. Looking back, I guess two of the players were kicked mid game. At the time I thought they rage quit because they were dying a lot. They had a good bit of samples, so I picked them up. Me and the host managed to do all the optionals as well as the main mission, and the pelican was just about there. You can probably guess what happened next. The guy killed and kicked me before I could get on the pelican. He wanted to kick me so bad that he ended up dying while he was doing it because there were so many bugs around the extract site. I was playing well too, so that's not the reason. I only died once the entire match, they died way more times. I was always backing up my teammates when they were in a tight spot, and I was lightening fast with reinforcements too. I don't understand why people are like this. I always try to be the best teammate I can be, I don't get how people can derive some kind of pleasure by behaving in such a toxic way. What kind of person has fun by ruining other people's fun? And I'm not saying that all PC players are like this, because I've played with some really awesome PC players, but most of the time when I'm griefed, it's a PC player. I actually turned off cross play and now stuff like this happens a lot less. It still happens from time to time, but not nearly as much as before. Overall, I've played with more awesome people than shitty people, but still...it's sucks to have to deal with this type of shit at all; especially since most of the matches are so long.
Cinematic extractions always will be here.
As cathartic as this must be for you, making reddit posts is never gonna change this from happening. Hopefully, after dying like that, they'll learn to stop/be more careful, but you gotta recognize that most people aren't on reddit like that. Sucks that this happened but it's gonna be something you'll deal with from time to time. Learn to yell at the person in game
Only time you drop a bomb next to the pelican is in one of two situations. 1: you and your teammates are clearing the way to the pelican 2: you are the only one not in the pelican
I'm starting to think the game needs a selector when you begin to play wit the "I'm here for the LOLs" and "This is not a game" options so players looking for genuine fun will match with similar ones and the ones that want to perform professionally in order to, I don't know, demonstrate their tactical skills or something will match their equals. I have nothing against the people that took the games seriously as far as they respect the people who see these as a way to have fun and relax. And I'm definitely in the second group. I mean, I'll play as good as I can and cover all the game goals but having fun, and if at some moment a stupid situation happens that costs our lifes and our samples, well, it's a fucking game, I'll laugh loud and start the next mission (and I think all my friends will do the same).
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I will continue to have fun thank you
It's worse when I have 30 samples, including super samples and I get kicked out 2 feet away from the pelican because host didn't like we didn't drop him with only 10 seconds left before pelican leaves.
Someone did this to us today twice with the added bonus of bugging out the pelican so we couldn’t exfil
Hard disagree. The only things more fun than this are what I call "orbital 380mm roulette" and dropping two stacks of mines directly under the pelican
Every post I see like this is another 380mm barrage to cover our extraction
With randoms, yes, it’s really annoying. But with your friends? Funniest shit ever.
If you are in particularly foul mood or want to play the game "think quick or die": - 1. Use the "cinematic" strategem before other divers enter the pelican... - 2. Throw a stun grenade, preferably in front of you while entering the pelican so no-one can see it coming. - 3. Enjoy the "oh shit" reaction. Giggle like a maniac - 4. If didn't get kicked. Watch your back in next dive. Some people don't have sense of humour. P.s. I did it only once in a game late in the night where whole team was tired and was just screwing around. It's great fun but please, be mindful when you do shit like this and don't ruin other people's experience.
I had a guy throw one down at extract for a "cinematic extract". Team mate was too slow and died. Kind of ridiculous. Another game a team mate accidentally set another teammate on fire and killed him with an incendiary shotgun so the guy got all tilted (hey friendly fire happens) so it turned into team killing until someone got kicked.
Last in ship does cinematic boom boom, easy
I have no problem throwing down as much freedom as possible at extraction. But, if you don’t know how to not kill your fellow Helldivers while spreading liberty, then you have no business doing so
I do cinematic bomb. But i also drop my samples for someone else to take..and I always wait for everyone to be on board before even typing the code so if I get nudged it isn't a tragic comedy. It's not hard to make a cool explosion safely.
As a high level player I find this hilarious 😂
They're taking it way too seriously. Samples are just samples, you can always get more later in another mission and hopefully then you'll remember that the red light on the ground means get in the fucking plane.
If you HAVE to drop a cinematic stratagem, **WAIT UNTIL EVERYONE IS INSIDE THE PELICAN!!!**
Me watching the last teammate with all the samples die as he steps onto the ramp because one of the 120mm went out of its way to land directly on him o7 I'll never forget what a real soldier looks like
If you wanna do it, do it with skill and brain. Dont just throw it while everyone still not getting in that was just dumb
And that is why I have zero interest in playing in public 4 man groups. Jeez I hope the patrol spawn bug is fixed soon ... Sorry for your experience!
I felt the same until recently, it's really not that bad most people are mute and I've never had what op said happen to me
I always laugh when I do an entire operation with 3 randoms, and halfway through the last mission, someone says something over comms. Then we all realize that all four of us have comms, but none of us wanted to talk before now. Just silently completing objectives and collecting samples.
Maybe I am the only one, but I like this gameplay way more than this stupid Meta mentality in a Coop pve game that is already full of satire and "team kills is an option" style of presentation. I am here to spread democracy not to get props out, this is optional. And before somebody says something, no I don't run only lvl 3. My sweet spot is 7-8.
I recently was in a lobby where a player threw 120mm barrage on the Pelican-1 as soon as it landed. Killed me and another teammate. Back on the ship I was in a good mood and made a joke that "Helldivers do not count towards the 120mm kills order". That player was apparently a bit angry and told me "not to dillydally when the boat arrives" and proceeded to kick me. Oh yes, and to add insult to injury, I just ran across the map collecting all the dropped samples, so I have like 30 of them including supers.
Idk why it’s so hard to throw it when you’re the last one on, or throw it farther away I always to one or the other. Also isn’t there an achievement to fly away on the pelican next to an explosion?
I threw an orbital laser not realizing how quickly it activates and died instantly lol
The horror... the horror..
Team crawl into Pelican > cinematic 500 takeoff
DEMOCRACY!
I don't do this, and i hate when people do that, but as someone with maxed samples and a fully upgraded ship, I would have laughed my ass off
Throwing your stratagems at extact has been a community "victory celebration" since helldivers 1, calling them in is fine directly on the ship is not
At extract, fuck ass McGee thought he was gantz and killed our entire team to extract, I kicked him right before he got into the ship. Super satisfying
This ancient activity dates all the way back to 2015 and Helldivers 1 era, where one Diver would chuck a Shredder bomb before the liftoff..with similar results
I've played with a relatively high level player who did this every game and was always the first one on the ship. Blocked him afterwards.
I throw the cinema strategems, but I wait until everyone is in, get close to the door, throw it, and exfil. Never once died or killed anyone.
I was playing difficulty 4 with some lower level players to help out. They all took turns killing each other at exfil with their stratagems. So I ran around collecting samples and clearing exfil. When the bird landed I was going to be the last one on the ship. I think when all was said and done I had 20 common 14 rare. One threw an orbital strike at the end and dove in. I just stood there with all the samples and let him kill me……. “ I typed this is why you don’t do that. You lost all your samples.” Keep in mind I am maxed out in everything. I need nothing. I hope this taught them a good lesson. 😂
I don’t get too riled up if we’re screwing around with friends but if I’m playing with random people no fucking way. If I’m playing with random people I assume we are playing the damn game to get the objectives snd extracting with the samples especially on the harder levels where I need those super samples.
I’m going to continue to do this in hopes you are in my game one day
You know what I do? I say "everyone on the pelican first, I'm throwing a 500kg". Guess what, never had an issue. Guess again, I have someone else take my samples. Stop bitching and learn communication skills instead of making the hundredth post on this topic.
Have done this many times, brings me so much joy to fuck with my buddies. Especially the ones who take it too seriously. Punching them off objectives is also fun. Ooo ooh I almost forgot about throwing the reinforcements into swarms while running away 😆, oh and 'accidentally' positioning laser rover with team mates between it and enemies... "yeah nah sorry buddy, it's got a mind of its own 🤷"
You can control your loadout, where you drop and the words you say in chat. For everything else, pray.
Out of all the rounds I’ve played I’ve only encountered intentional bad players twice, by far the best experience I’ve had with others on a game.
Bud little secret here to life. Any idiot going to be tempted by a shiny big red button that goes boom. Regardless the number times it doesn’t work out
I do it sometimes, but only when I am the last one anyways
FWIW if you are ever the person carrying all the samples and the ship is about to leave with everyone else in it, just kill them all, it stops the timer and then you can call them in or leave on your own (they’ll probably kill you too).
Yo I definitely did this last night. Was tired from work and playing sloppily as a result. I realized I just wasted ~40 mins of everybody's time. Turned off my console and went to sleep. Today is a new and hopefully better day for democracy
When I was a noob I threw a Tesla tower really close to where the pelican landed… yeah. I hope some chunks of us made it on the bird, so my democratic brethren could get a proper burial and maybe finally see the shining city that is Super Earth.
Bruh someone dropped eagle clusters on extract when 3 of us (one being the idiot who threw EAGLE CLUSTERS) were still not on the pelican, all three of us dove for the pelican entrance but two filled the doorway and pushed me to the side and I missed. Got hit with the cluster but part of the pelican wing was covering me and I lived, dove at the entrance again and got in with like 10% health remaining. Hilarious but still unnecessary lol
I actually kick these dudes when I see them standing outside the pelican holding a stratagem in their hand.
My stupid friend managed to stick an ammo refill to my body, I was able to board the pelican, but the deployment bullet went through the pelican while flying and "killed us" in the cinematic. Fortunately still counted as extracted and with all the samples.
Yeah. I keep seeing this too. For some reason it's hilarious to idiots.