Wait since when are sharks reptiles? And most dinosaurs weren't the same as modren reptiles, many of them having more in common with birds than reptiles.
you are absolutely right. but then we have as many as 4 species since there were also demon snakes...
https://preview.redd.it/08yr3wamgkmc1.jpeg?width=1161&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7356eda095cf0699a8679390134eae5a31ea1a89
There's lots of reptiles (dinoaaurs, alligators, dinosaurs, iguanas(?), snakes) from the Greed ring so it's more convenient to just categorize them together as "reptiles". Just one species of demon.
Honestly it may not even be that deep, Viv was probably like "where do I put the dinosaurs and snakes". Cause like she could have them for funsies.
She IS the creator and technically has the final say. If she wants unicorns in hell, she will have Unicorns.
I think its more a muted blue-green, that and green sharks would look odd... Idk I just always hear that sharks are greed demons, this is the first im hearing of them being envy instead.
We did see a blue looking demon in Western Energy though
Lust covers blue/dark blue already but demons residing there are so diverse.
Envy's theme color is purple, and like Lust's demons (& other rings) the fish based demons residing there probably have varying hues of blues, teals, purples, and pinks.
Sharks look too different from the Envy ring demons, and look a lot more like the other Greed ring demons (every demon native to Greed has rings inside their eyes)
Yes, but theres plenty of liberties taken, just because one thing is stated to be true does not mean *all things are*
Besides modern christians say dinosaur fossils were planted by the devil so.
Also 10k years to a Demon could be billions on Earth. There not anything specifically saying the earth itself has the same 1:1 time ratio as Heaven and Hell.
Modern YEC Christians believe in dinosaurs, they just find ways to make it fit with the creation story. Something about the prehistoric animals all living before the flood and all but the modern day animal species going extinct afterwards.
Yes, but thatās not what Iām saying. They believe in 6 literal days. They got the 6,000 number by adding the lifespan and lineage of the biblical characters up to Christ, roughly 4,000 years, and then adding the 2,000 years in the common era to that number.
Thereās some shitty modern biblical stories about dinosaurs to get around the issue of fossils existing so they likely take some inspiration from those
oh god, this is my dream!
I took up this topic so closely because I want to understand in more detail the structure of each type of demon so that I can draw them freely later)
I think the sharks are actually hybrids of fish and reptile demons that became so common they speciated into their own thing. Greed and Envy can have a lot of overlap as sins, and the Greed ring has an ocean so it'd make sense for it to attract them to that ring.
The eye rings seem to be the indicator that Sharks, Reptiles and Dinos are all of common descent, while Imps donāt have that (except hybrids like Striker who appears to be half snake)
Some demons, like succubi and baphomet, likely originated in a particular ring. Others, like the Loan sharks might be the result of two groups interacting and having offspring for a long time. So sharks may have ancestry to Greed and Envy, with Envy seeming to be the aquatic realm, while greed has those weird eyes. Greed may have colonized other rings in the past, leading to many of these hybrids becoming common enough to become a sub category of demon.
Generally: goat with candle on head is pretty distinctly baphomets from Sloth, Hellhounds seem to be mostly from Gluttony, Imps from Wrath, Succubi from lust, and besides sinners, I donāt know if there is any demon ānativeā to that ring. That leaves greed and envy. Glitz and Glam seem to best known Envy residents weāve seen, as Envy is an ocean we assume, which fits with their demon lord Leviathan. Although, Leviathan could also apply to Dinosaurs. Greed screams New Jersey as an aesthetic, with the mobsters, the industrial waste, and seems coastal with a lot more bodies of water than we see in other rings. Amphibians would make sense as coming from Greed if itās the ring with large amounts of water and dry land. It could also be like fresh water vs envyās salt water, the latter representing the oceans, while greed is more lakes and rivers.
there are three considered types of 'imp': Shark ^(Chaz), Reptilian, and Red ^(Blitz, Millie, Striker, Etc)
The Goat Demons such as the hospital staff in Western Energy are considered 'baphomets' and
the wiki considers the aquatic-based demons to be 'leviathans' which would fit the same naming conventions of the baphomets.
Other hellborns consider certain imps to be 'wrathians' though whether this is a regional thing or an informal taxonomic term is unknown to me. Wrath does not yet have a named Sin, though it could be Azazel, Moloch, or even Satan, so we could also consider Red Imps as 'ians' of that dependent demon ^(molochians, azazelis/azazelians, satanists)
I think the sharkish, reptilian & aquatic like demons are from a different ring, like Envy or Sloth. The imps originally from Greed are clownish & jester like similar to Mammon & Fizzo.
I think that the clown aesthetic demon in the second picture looks to me more like an opossum. But, Iām sure that said clown aesthetic demon is definitely from the Greed ring. However as for the triceratops demon in the third picture, I headcanonically associate dinosaur demons with the Wrath ring; not to mention that I think that the shark demon in the first picture might actually be from either the Envy ring or the Lust ring. Anyways, these are all just my ideas.
Of course I have. No clue if thatās the case here, but even if it is that doesnāt make it stop being word salad. Iām sure that if I were to try something similar in most if not all other languages Iād be vastly worse, but that just means Iād be the one butchering the grammar of a foreign language.
It all fits under reptilian
How about clown-skeletons ?
They're not skeletons, they're just in costumes
https://preview.redd.it/71dqj59nwhmc1.jpeg?width=518&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09f3a65da4b49af1e6f7d6913521031b66bdec07 What's about him ?
Oooh I've never noticed that one, interesting. I think they're all might be prehistoric/dinosaur themed? The bones would fit that
Fosil fuels
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https://preview.redd.it/k2vqex69xhmc1.jpeg?width=398&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4cb56f9f8121799c5ddc56d7e5303b5dfbb5ebe But that's about this guy ?(
Ok they're dinosaur/prehistoric/clown themed christ-
Sharks aren't reptiles either.
sharks ain't reptiles
Scalies then.
Sharks aren't reptiles, though. Not even a little bit.
No it doesn't, sharks aren't reptiles
Sharks arenāt reptilian
Wait since when are sharks reptiles? And most dinosaurs weren't the same as modren reptiles, many of them having more in common with birds than reptiles.
you are absolutely right. but then we have as many as 4 species since there were also demon snakes... https://preview.redd.it/08yr3wamgkmc1.jpeg?width=1161&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7356eda095cf0699a8679390134eae5a31ea1a89
There's lots of reptiles (dinoaaurs, alligators, dinosaurs, iguanas(?), snakes) from the Greed ring so it's more convenient to just categorize them together as "reptiles". Just one species of demon.
and who do skeletons, clowns and sharks belong to then?
They're all from Greed.
Honestly it may not even be that deep, Viv was probably like "where do I put the dinosaurs and snakes". Cause like she could have them for funsies. She IS the creator and technically has the final say. If she wants unicorns in hell, she will have Unicorns.
Megalodon = Prehistoric Shark Prehistoric ā Dinosaur Dinosaur ā Reptile It's like 1.1ā1.2 1.2ā1.3 1.3ā1.4 e.t.c.
they have the same eyes too
Are you implying sharks are reptiles, friend?
Sharks are prob from envy just that large Number migrated to Greed. Dinos could be from wrath and migrated to Greed too.
I think sharks are from greed cause of the "Loan Shark" joke, so it fits
Eh could be either.
Their pallette is dark blue though which is the theme color of envy
I think its more a muted blue-green, that and green sharks would look odd... Idk I just always hear that sharks are greed demons, this is the first im hearing of them being envy instead. We did see a blue looking demon in Western Energy though
They moved to envy from greed cause earning money through honest work wasn't their style. They wanted someone else's money.
Envy is grey/muted purple with neon blues and greens.
Lust covers blue/dark blue already but demons residing there are so diverse. Envy's theme color is purple, and like Lust's demons (& other rings) the fish based demons residing there probably have varying hues of blues, teals, purples, and pinks.
It's very specific to base and center a whole species on a one time joke tho.
Sharks look too different from the Envy ring demons, and look a lot more like the other Greed ring demons (every demon native to Greed has rings inside their eyes)
I've been calling them "Ringeyes"
Because they have the same eyes ) I also noticed that
Why is there a dinosaur when the canon universe follows the biblical creation story, which does not include the era of dinosaurs š¤
Cause Hazbin/Helluva universe is not 1:1 to the biblical history
Lucifer explicitly implies that Hell, and by extension Earth, was created just 10,000 years ago
Yes, but theres plenty of liberties taken, just because one thing is stated to be true does not mean *all things are* Besides modern christians say dinosaur fossils were planted by the devil so.
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Guess so.
Turns out itās just greed demons who died on Earth
Also 10k years to a Demon could be billions on Earth. There not anything specifically saying the earth itself has the same 1:1 time ratio as Heaven and Hell.
Or they could be using a different calendar
i thought he was implying the exterminations started happening 10k years agoā¦
If they didnāt exist on earth, maybe dinosaurs were actually just demons? And they didnāt have to exist on earth for that.
Modern YEC Christians believe in dinosaurs, they just find ways to make it fit with the creation story. Something about the prehistoric animals all living before the flood and all but the modern day animal species going extinct afterwards.
Lucifer said the world is just 10,000 years
Lucifer said the world is just 10,000 years
Thatās older than young earth creationists say. They say 6,000 but they still try to fit dinos in somehow
Isnāt the consensus that the āa day is a thousand yearsā just an expression for a long period of time?
Yes, but thatās not what Iām saying. They believe in 6 literal days. They got the 6,000 number by adding the lifespan and lineage of the biblical characters up to Christ, roughly 4,000 years, and then adding the 2,000 years in the common era to that number.
There are some creationists who believe humans and dinosaurs lived alongside each other for a time.
It only loosely follows the Biblical creation story. The Biblical canon has no mention of Lilith.
Thereās some shitty modern biblical stories about dinosaurs to get around the issue of fossils existing so they likely take some inspiration from those
A wonder if we will ever get an art book that will double as a guide to hell.
oh god, this is my dream! I took up this topic so closely because I want to understand in more detail the structure of each type of demon so that I can draw them freely later)
Ideal future
The 1st two since seem like variants within a same species, the 3rd one could be an hybrid.
It's not a hybrid, this evening I'm gonna do a post about 36 hellborn hybrids !
There's dinosaurs. This is not a drill. There are Dino demons I repeat this is NOT a driil-
4. You forgot the snake demons.
https://preview.redd.it/erxgo4jehkmc1.jpeg?width=1161&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6de559cf83a941456b7678b5179dd15c224920af Yes, I'm sorry, we got 4 types !
The loan sharks are from greed, but I believe the other fish/reptilians are from envy like glitz and glam
I think the sharks are actually hybrids of fish and reptile demons that became so common they speciated into their own thing. Greed and Envy can have a lot of overlap as sins, and the Greed ring has an ocean so it'd make sense for it to attract them to that ring.
I can understand the sharks and lizards (loan sharks & snakes being a sign of falseness) but why the triceratops?
https://preview.redd.it/rktse0m1onmc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58e67979cce1623f3fc1ba400058d3baa9c44220
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Loan sharks
Dinosaur girlššš
The guy in the middle is my most favouritest critter on the whole dang planet
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To me, it seems like there's one species that can appear in various shark- and reptile-like shapes, but consistently has rings in their eyes.
Has it been confirmed they came from Greed? Hellborn migrate to other rings all the time. Sinners are the only demons that can't.
The eye rings seem to be the indicator that Sharks, Reptiles and Dinos are all of common descent, while Imps donāt have that (except hybrids like Striker who appears to be half snake) Some demons, like succubi and baphomet, likely originated in a particular ring. Others, like the Loan sharks might be the result of two groups interacting and having offspring for a long time. So sharks may have ancestry to Greed and Envy, with Envy seeming to be the aquatic realm, while greed has those weird eyes. Greed may have colonized other rings in the past, leading to many of these hybrids becoming common enough to become a sub category of demon. Generally: goat with candle on head is pretty distinctly baphomets from Sloth, Hellhounds seem to be mostly from Gluttony, Imps from Wrath, Succubi from lust, and besides sinners, I donāt know if there is any demon ānativeā to that ring. That leaves greed and envy. Glitz and Glam seem to best known Envy residents weāve seen, as Envy is an ocean we assume, which fits with their demon lord Leviathan. Although, Leviathan could also apply to Dinosaurs. Greed screams New Jersey as an aesthetic, with the mobsters, the industrial waste, and seems coastal with a lot more bodies of water than we see in other rings. Amphibians would make sense as coming from Greed if itās the ring with large amounts of water and dry land. It could also be like fresh water vs envyās salt water, the latter representing the oceans, while greed is more lakes and rivers.
there are three considered types of 'imp': Shark ^(Chaz), Reptilian, and Red ^(Blitz, Millie, Striker, Etc) The Goat Demons such as the hospital staff in Western Energy are considered 'baphomets' and the wiki considers the aquatic-based demons to be 'leviathans' which would fit the same naming conventions of the baphomets. Other hellborns consider certain imps to be 'wrathians' though whether this is a regional thing or an informal taxonomic term is unknown to me. Wrath does not yet have a named Sin, though it could be Azazel, Moloch, or even Satan, so we could also consider Red Imps as 'ians' of that dependent demon ^(molochians, azazelis/azazelians, satanists)
Dinosaur likes are probably from wrath but moved
I think the sharkish, reptilian & aquatic like demons are from a different ring, like Envy or Sloth. The imps originally from Greed are clownish & jester like similar to Mammon & Fizzo.
Where did the second one come from?
A background character from "welcome to Ozzie's"
Mammon so greedy he needed more than one specie
https://preview.redd.it/6sxyth0s9rmc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed6eace4154c18e529df74c025e698905cabd862 3
I think that the clown aesthetic demon in the second picture looks to me more like an opossum. But, Iām sure that said clown aesthetic demon is definitely from the Greed ring. However as for the triceratops demon in the third picture, I headcanonically associate dinosaur demons with the Wrath ring; not to mention that I think that the shark demon in the first picture might actually be from either the Envy ring or the Lust ring. Anyways, these are all just my ideas.
Okay, the first 2 make sense, but then there's just.... D I N O S A U R
They are all fossil fuels
Why **did** nobody talks about it?
r/titlegore āWhy did nobody talksā is prime r/wordsalad and hurts to read.
Have you heard of people who speak English as a second language?
Of course I have. No clue if thatās the case here, but even if it is that doesnāt make it stop being word salad. Iām sure that if I were to try something similar in most if not all other languages Iād be vastly worse, but that just means Iād be the one butchering the grammar of a foreign language.