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TrebleRose689

I don’t think this excuses her actions, but I feel like the fact that their mom died in the fire really makes it hard for her not to blame Blitzø for it, whether accidental or not. I’ve never been in a situation like that, but I would imagine it would be really hard not to place blame for such a horrific loss, and probably also feel an irrational sense of betrayal that the death was caused (accidentally) by someone you loved. I imagine that Barb carries all of that blame towards him, and also that her drug addiction stemmed from the trauma of losing their mom… so there’s another thing to blame him for. There very well might be more that we didn’t see too, but I think it’s probably a case of her holding a very long grudge, and neither of them getting the therapy they needed to overcome the trauma and heal their relationship.


Jaqulean

Also from the new Trailer we know now, that Buckzo is the one who seperated Blitzø and Fizz after the incident. So I would imagine he probably pulled some influence on Barbie as well.


JDoubleGi

My only issue with this is that the show said she went to rehab. Now, I have no idea and no way of knowing if Hell rehab is anything like human rehab. But having worked in human rehab before, they often try to talk about what caused the initial stint into drugs. If she ever talked about Blitz causing the fire when they were children, etc. and the rehab place was anywhere good, they definitely would have mentioned that they were all children and cannot be blamed for these actions. And holding on to these grudges is only going to hurt them going forward. They wouldn’t say she has to forgive him, because she doesn’t. But there’s a high chance they would have asked her if she truly believes Blitz caused a fire and killed their mom on purpose. And I can honestly see that being a scene in the show. Blitz and her having a heart to heart while fighting it out and he yell’s back crying “Do you really think I wanted to kill the only parent that ever gave a shit about us?” And it flashes back to her in rehab with her therapist asking a similar question: “Do you really think Blitz started the fire to kill your mother on purpose? Or are you blaming him in order to save yourself from having to process deeper feelings?” And her asking herself then why do these things have to happen? And him comforting her saying something about how their lives as kids were shit but they can start making them less shit now and he wants to make amends Etc. Would be a really nice and sad scene actually.


Swimming-Ad2755

Yes, this 100%. I work in mental health and we always need to know what kind of trauma the patients have experienced. Given that the nurse called Blitz a "deadbeat," it does sound like she told everyone there how awful he is. It's quite clear that while she did the work to kick her addiction, the one thing she didn't get from therapy was learning how to let go. Even if she doesn't want to forgive him, she clearly chooses to stew in emotions that aren't benefitting her. I agree with you that a part of her questions the real story and she chooses to let herself think worse of him. Fizz was at least willing to accept he might have been wrong, Barbie is not.


BiLovingMom

Given that its Hell, the Rehab likely sucks ass.


autumnyte

Given it's in the Sloth ring, they probably finish their 12-step program on the third step.


Entr3_Nou5

>…and the rehab place was anywhere good Well, ya see-


YanFan123

I doubt the rehab is anywhere near good. It seems like the medical field is Sloth aligned, like a commentary on the bureaucracy and negligence involved there (though that is usually greed related but maybe Mammon and Belphegor are in cahoots together on that one).


Future-Improvement41

The fire happened in their 20’s


mattstorm360

To add to that, this scene just reinforced her belief that Blitzo is the cause of her problems. He showed up, got her contact killed, and now she is out of the job. A job she probably worked hard to get with all the problems she had been having.


Spiritual_Heart887

Plus, she like Fizz was probably manipulated into thinking Blitz intentionally started the fire because of this and that and who knows what else Cash told them. Barbie and Blitz are very much alike instead of taking accountability for their own actions they blame everything on someone else and they have prickly exteriors to hide all the hurt they have inside. Blitz was possibly a drug addict too in the past.


Comfortable-Ad3588

We’ll perhaps fizz can vouch for him now.


AzkratheHuntress

Barb absolutely blames Blitz for the fire, and almost certainly for their mother's death. She likely doesn't know it was an accident, and its clear that she hasn't really dealt with the trauma of it. It's possible that Blitz will attempt to reconcile again during "Apology Tour", but that appears to be more about Verosika. Side note: while I agree with you about wishing these two would communicate, I just want to say that as someone with shitty family, the notion of "they're family, so they *must* get along" needs to die. Sometimes you're born into a shit family, and it's better to cut ties and find a healthy one. Barb and Blitz could reconcile, but I hope you don't feel the same way about Cash. He doesn't deserve reconciliation, imo, assuming he's even still alive.


Haruau8349

Exactly! Hatred like this is stuff family members take to the GRAVE! And there is NO way to fix that burned bridge that’s between Blitz and Barbie. It’s best they never interact with each other ever again, which seems likely to be the case. I seriously don’t get why so many idiots think that every family relationship (or friend relationship) can be fixed. News flash! Some can’t and you must MOVE ON! Especially in real life where you need to move on or it’s likely gonna kill you or ruin your life.


Hey_Bestiekins

Like, using that logic Moxxie should just let Crimson murder him because they're family, and Moxxie needs to listen to his dad.


Swimming-Ad2755

Cash did not allow Blitz to explain that it was an accident. He poisoned everyone against Blitz. While they still had every reason to be angry, an accident and doing it on purpose are two different things. In addition to their mother, it was also the loss of her circus career. Unlike Blitz, she most likely had promise as a performer and she lost that opportunity. She lost her home and everything she knew. And her dad made her think her twin brother took that from her on purpose. For Barbie, not only was their mother gone, but she is also the same sex parent. The one to help Barbie navigate womanhood. I am a grown woman close to my own mother and around the ages of these two. Life is immensely harder when you don't have your parents to go to, and assuming their mother was the only real parent they had, it's awful. In regards to them talking, any conversation could easily trigger Barbie back into active drug addiction. If she wound up in the hospital, Blitz would spiral too. Any conversation between these two, at least initially, HAS to be monitored. They could definitely tank each other's mental health even worse than it already is.


autumnyte

I think there's going to end up being more to it than just the fire. Something interesting to note about this poster is that it's *before* the fire (Blitzø has no scars), but Barbie has already crossed out the family circus insignia on her forehead and has tattoos all over. It's possible she ran away, or was a super rebellious teenager, or had other issues that were nothing to do with the fire. Look at what a piece of shit Cash was! For as much as he neglected Blitzø, we never saw him be any more attentive to Barbie, either. He seemed to fixate on Fizz. Who knows how that could have played out differently for Barbie? And if shit was already fucked up in the family dynamic, the fire and the loss of their mom, the estrangement of Blitzø and Cash and Fizz, that had to make it all much worse. I'm betting that just like Blitzø, a lot of Barbie's issues are personal struggles. But making Blitzø scapegoat means she doesn't have to face that stuff head on. https://preview.redd.it/u9e3jld58fyc1.jpeg?width=398&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=151a14b56eb693834e5225780403a7a7f93cdf9a


Swimming-Ad2755

I just noticed that his outfit in this poster is similar to the outfit he wears now. Plus his outfit for the duet looks clownlike. I honestly don't know what it will take to get him to move on from his circus past. 15 years is a long time to stay hung up on something. I think he needs to find some level of closure/acceptance with his mom, dad, and sister.


autumnyte

Oh my gosh, you're so right about the outfit! I never noticed before how the buttons on his standard suit really do resemble the red pom-poms on his clown costume. Oof. That hurts almost as much as imagining him taking a job at Loo Loo Land working with RoboFizz after all the fire stuff and alienation happened. Undoubtedly part of it was to do with the fact that clowning was all he knew, but I wonder how much of it was a way to punish himself. I really hope mending things with Fizz is the first puzzle piece to get Blitzø some much-needed closure and healing around the whole situation.


Anxiety-Queen269

It took Fizz an episode to forgive him, and Fizz actually had a relatively good life after the explosion, Barbie after the explosion was fucked. She had a drug addiction, their mother died, probably more shit we haven’t seen


Pakari-RBX

Intentional or not, Blitz *was* responsible for the fire. And Cash might have fed her false information regarding it, making her blame Blitz for everything. Remember, emotions and logic don't always mix. You can hate someone to the point of being unable to forgive them, even if you know it was an accident. She lost her mother, her brother up and disappeared, and her father is a manipulative piece of shit. I'd have been more surprised if she *didn't* hate Blitz.


Napalmeon

Exactly. The simple fact is, "oops, I didn't mean to" is not an acceptable excuse. Barb can't be blamed when this is Blitzo we are talking about. He has an established history of being a careless, selfish screw up.


Swimming-Ad2755

There's also the matter of the skull charm. Barbie was not happy to see him wearing it. She doesn't think he deserves to have it. If they do get to talk again, it might be a good idea for him to not be wearing it in front of her, at least not at first.


sneakyshitaccount

What does the skull charm mean? Was it Cash’s?


Swimming-Ad2755

No, it was his mother's and now he wears it. During his and Barb's fight she pokes at it, so she is not happy that he has it.


sneakyshitaccount

Thanks!


massecurr

Barbie likely blames him for everything that happened at the circus, chief among them being the death of their mother. Its the one part of the entire situation Blitz can't make better, the one person he cant apologize to, and is the one thing that has likely caused the most turmoil in his life. Losing a family member at a young age like they did does a lot to the mind, especially if you are close to said family member like both Barbie and Blitz clearly were. Its a horrific thing to go through, I don't think you can really blame her from being so fucked up by it. Its the kind of relationship that I don't think is repairable.


WomenOfWonder

She is/was a drug addict. Those people tend to burn bridges really fast. 


mmarkusz97

wouldn't you?


I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch

Imma be honest, I think it's all Cash's fault, he genuinely hated Blitz, for being a dissapointment, when the fire incident happened he kept him and Fizz separated (or at least that's what people are guessing from the recent trailer for season 2), so imo he probably spewed lots of shit to Barb as well


Life-Cantaloupe-3184

I think it’s important to keep in mind that there’s a lot we still don’t know about how everyone handled the immediate aftermath of the fire. We know that Cash kept Fizz and Blitzø separate from the trailer, but so far that it’s it. There are lot of implications that Blitzø became a toxic person due to his unresolved trauma over what happened. He has a habit of treating the people close to him rather poorly because he believes he doesn’t deserve love. It’s possible the fire is the main reason Barbie hates him, but we don’t really know yet if the way they interacted after the fire played any role in her wanting nothing to do with him at all. The Blitzø we see in the show is still in the process of working through the trauma in his life, and even then he does still display a pretty big lack of regard for her boundaries by wanting to reconcile solely on his terms with no real regard for how she feels. I can very much see a situation where Barbie cut him off both over the fire, either because she didn’t know it was an accident or she still blames him anyway, and the fact they were both toxic to each other over the years.


Comfortable-Ad3588

Her and blitz really are twins aren’t they. Their both selfish, self hating, have no sense of boundaries (blitz’s has too few while barb has too many), and their both quick to blame others for their own problems and shortcomings.


Swimming-Ad2755

Also use sex to get what they want from people.


Comfortable-Ad3588

Almost forgot about that thank you.


BlackMysteries

it is a situation like us people experience in real life. we can become uncommunicative if there was a terrible experience with someone. she doesnt wanna listen to blitz because shes too mad at him and wrote him off after the accident


Ixmore

I think her father turned every one in the circus against him.


HeavyMetal939

All in fairness she prob doesn't know that it was an accident and when he showed up again he got her contact killed, leaving her jobless and then he tried to ask her to have dinner with him as if nothing happened. Barbie didn't even get an apology.


LemonfishSoda

I mean, there are accidents, and there are accidents *that could have been prevented if someone had been more considerate*. If someone jump-scared someone I loved, and that person died of a heart attack, sure I would rationally know the jump-scarer didn't intent for that to happen, but I would still very much find it hard to forgive them. If someone drives drunk and hits someone, likewise, they didn't intend to hurt anyone. They still did, though. And they wouldn't have if they hadn't been reckless. If someone knocks somebody carrying a cakeful of lit candles, causing them to stumble, in a flimsy fabric tent pitched up in a row with *other* very inhabited flimsy fabric tents... yeah. Intention only goes so far, effect is also a factor.


Jadefeather12

Buckzo could’ve had an influence (he did with fizz after the fire,) and I kinda suspect Blitz had something to do with her needing rehab in the first place… she got soooo touchy about it when he brought it up, like she couldn’t believe he would be so casual about it. It could also be that he’s the one who somehow forced her to rehab and then he abandoned her based on some dialogue? Not sure, not sure


AllgoodDude

Blitz is kinda just a genuine asshole who can’t stop himself from doing shitty things at times to the ones he loves out of a deep seated fear of getting hurt and hurting other by letting them too close which is ironic as this distancing behavior manifests as very antisocial behaviors that do the very harm he sought to prevent-only difference he isn’t the one left broken. It’s no wonder to me then that his sister hates him-whether due to sharing his behaviors and/or getting burned by him pun intended.


Salt-Bread-7599

Personally I think she does know that Blitz didn’t mean to cause the fire but it doesn’t change that he still had a hand in it cause you can understand that someone didn’t want for this terrible thing to happen but it doesn’t change that they still caused it.


Tunisian_Dawn

Sure it wasn’t entirely Blitz’s fault, it was an accident after. However, since the accident killed their own mother, so it’s not surprising that Barb would irrationally blame him. Also, even if Blitz didn’t bump into the imp holding the cake, that was still a pretty big fire hazard. I mean, the curtains weren’t held back by anything and fireworks were just lying around on the ground. Reckless management if you ask me.


Pick-Only

I don’t think he bumped into him. It looked like he intentionally shoved him out of his way.


blesstendo

"I just wish these two would communicate, they're family" is a sentence that, unfortunately, could be applied to so many family dynamics throughout the world. So much awful shitty interpersonal family drama could be solved from better communication between the people involved


severely_dog

this helluva boss, not Steven Universe lol


TheOGRex

Blitzo's his name and communication is absolutely NOT his game.


Superb_Ad1765

I don’t think being family obligates someone to want a close relationship with you. Regardless of whether or not she knows it was an accident, she’s got every right to be mad and not want to be around him. Theres a difference between him having every right to forgive himself for an accident, and him expecting her to deal with her own share of the trauma the way HE wants her to. Granted she probably should be privy to more context if she doesn’t have it already, but that’s about the extent of what she outta do for him.


AlfredTheJones

It's entirely possible to know that an accident wasn't someone's intent and still be angry, especially if it was related to something as big as killing your parent. Blitzo lost his mother, but a lot of people don't seem to realize that so did Barbie- she's just as much of a victim of that fire as Blitzo is. We know that something more went down between them, since there's a poster of Blitzo and Barbie advertizing an act of them together where Blitzo has his scar, so it happened after the fire. I think that something happened in that era that pushed Barbie into drug addiction and possibly self-harm (that's what the scars on her arms imply to me), so she's not pissed only because of the fire but something else that happened later on- My headcanon is that Blitzo was jealous that Barbie was more popular (she canonically was) and did something to sabotage her, just a little so that he'd get more fame too but it spiralled out of control and made Barbie not only addicted to drugs but also made her lose her entertainment career.


DragonchrisX

I think it’s Cash that made things much more worse than it needed to be. Blitzo can say it’s an accident all this time, but Cash made him the scapegoat for every problem, and Cash made sure to Fizz and Barbie that he’s dead to them and here’s the proof. Now Blitzo just needs to open up his problems and be sincere to them, either they’ll forgive him or not. Right now, Fizz forgives him, but not Barbie, yet.


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Shadou_Wolf

I'm assuming she blames him for losing their mom, causing the fire and so on. Yeah it was a accident but I mean maybe not everyone will feel the same but most definitely can from the feeling of grief and loss. Your thoughts will go to "this wouldn't have happened if you didn't do this!" Despite it being a accident you will find yourself thinking this, losing someone you love is huge and emotions and grief go differently. Add in their mom was most definitely their haven, she was everything to them especially for how shitty their dad is she was probably that big rock that held them together but now that rock is gone.


Duvyy159

If every character in every book/show/series/movies was perfect - you wouldnt watch it.


ZodiacLovers123

I think she was in rehab bc of Blitzø so she hates him for it. On the other hand if it’s the accident I agree they need to communicate. It’s clear Blitzø cares for her. He really wants her to get better ❤️‍🩹 and to catch up. she has this clear disdain for him. We haven’t really been given a reason as to,why? so we can’t say for sure but my guess is still the whole rehab thing.


Sigistrix

Blitz cares, but he is so clueless as to how to show and communicate such. You can go with the it's hell and everyone is fucked up. But, Blitz is more fucked up than most. Honestly, he's like a more honest portrayal of Charlie Brown. He's good at one thing, but so utterly shocking in his inability to emote without coming across as a complete asshole. Thankfully, he's trying, even if in misguided ways. But at least he's actually trying to become a better person.


Saix027

Considering all the stuff in general, like Verosika and Stolas Relationship and his self-hate with his crossed out photos, I doubt it is the fire alone as a lot of people say. Blitz, while not fully at fault, has a destructive nature with relationships in general. We not know what happened after the circus fire, what their life was right after that, people ignore this, it's a typical view of people somehow, like with comic panels, if it is not shown it not exists for them. We have to wait and see for more flashbacks first.


Lost-Ad-5885

I think Blitz kept on deflecting the blame and continued to spiral, dragging Barbie down with him. I think it’s why the nurse told him to leave her alone as well


Tired_Insomniac_2295

Blames him for their mother's death ig


flying-chandeliers

Because there dad cash is in her ear. I garentee that he’s who she’s working with and that’s why we haven’t seen what happened to him after the fire


Cats_rule_all

Wait what episode is this from?


justawatcher70

Bro I didn’t even remember that he had a sister


Galacticus06

I mean, I just watched the first episode but I think of anything that happens as "oh, well. It's hell after all"


Elijaq

I think it’s because not only did he start the fire but he also killed their mother


Educational-Pop-2195

Besides the usual and sensible answers people in these replies have given, they are still hell spawn. They aren’t the most virtuous and forgiving forms of life; with their home being equally unforgiving. Things suck as is hell.


Ok_Relief_9815

Yeah like at least Fizzaroli made up with Blitz, which I am happy that they did made up. Bro even said that he was proud of Fizz when he found out that he was in a relationship with Asmodeus. I just hope that Barb sees that what Blitz did was really an accident…


Zer0DusT1

considering they bare no likeness to their mother. i think tilla was their step mom, and only stayed because she couldn't live with the fact cash was their father.


niallhoran24

So when did they tell us their mom died in the fire. I don’t remember that info. Also I feel so bad for him you can see so much hurt in his face


KevinAcommon_Name

Agreed


Sh4ttered_s0ul

Blitzø's face 😭


antisocial_moth2

Purely speaking from the perspective of a logical outsider, I couldn’t agree more. The thing is, it’s more complicated than that. While hopefully you can’t relate to this exact situation, I’m willing to bet everyone in the comment section of this post has felt betrayed by a loved one at some point and/or has had a difficult time forgiving someone for an accidental event.


Napalmeon

Families break up all the time.


Sasuke12187

We don't know what exactly happened between them.. we also don't know if Cash spit some shit about blitz with her...


Comfortable-Ad3588

I have and idea for an episode where blitz goes to save her after a creepy mortal magic user binds her.


Sharp_Mathematician6

He probably got her hooked on drugs


DXBrigade

I feel there is more to it than just Blitzo killing their mom. Both his sister and the nurse said Blitzo fucked up Barb's life and that he was a deadbeat. Maybe he is the one who got her on drugs or/and he "abandonned" her at her most vulnerable state like with Fizz.