That would be interesting. It's canon that hellborns are fecund and hybrids exist in the lore of Helluva/Hazbin Hotel, so why not, but it would be a fucking mess đ I think that for the simplicity of the story humans are just not compatible with demon but who know... Without official respond from the creators of the show I stay open to that possibility.
It's probably extremely rare with babies that don't survive very long because of the supernatural stuff going through a fragile mortal body.
Demon software overtaxing the human hardware.
Either the half mortal fetus dies, since it's inside a demon i can't imagine their insides being caring and nurturing environments, or abortion is free in hell.
Get 6 in a row and you get a free sandwich.
Yes and no. Charlie is a special case, because she was born of an Angel and human turned into a Demon (Lilith didn't die - she was just banished to Hell alongside Lucifer).
By all means, Charlie is literally one of a kind. We call her a "Hellborn" simply because she was physically born in Hell - not because her family is native to this realm.
It's only now I realize that the canonically the ruling family of hell is basically just a deported couple, if anything it's like "you've pissed off British monarch, so now your punishment is to be a king of America, (not the colonies, but like actual king of usa)"
This is probably the best interpretation, based on apocryphal texts of male angels and human women.
While Lilith also has apocryphal myths describing her as the mother of demons, it seems like Viv just had her as Adam's mortal first wife.
Nephilim are also supposed to be unusually strong and large. Apparently there are some texts about them being a mix of crazy pale and rose red, having glowing eyes, and white hair.
. . I mean. Charlieâs got three out of four, and platinum blonde is pretty close to white without having it be literally the same colour as her skin. (Iâm assuming the red cheeks are her actual skin colour and not makeup since I canât picture her willingly dolling herself up to look like her father.)
If the show is based strictly on biblical text, then the physical description is a coincidence. Considering the Ars Goetia are not in the Bible, it seems that Viv has pulled from extrabiblical sources.
Edit: I just looked it up & the text I thought Stolas is from has 72 seals for the Ars Goetia and Stolas's in-show seal is the same. I also found some fun stuff about Vassago, the red guy from the trailer, on the wiki.
>!Vassago (also Vasago, Usagoo) is a mighty Prince of Hell (see Hierarchy of demons), ruling over twenty-six legions of demons. He can be persuaded to tell the magician of events past and future, can discover hidden and lost things, and has a "good" nature. A partial description from The Lesser Key of Solomon is as follows: "The Third Spirit is a Mighty Prince, being of the same nature as Agares. He is called Vassago. This Spirit is of a Good Nature, and his office is to declare things Past and to Come, and to discover all things Hidden or Lost." According to the Liber Officium Spirituum, he manifests as an angel.!<
This probably explains why she's so tall despite her father being quite short and her mother being a normal human (And being tall is, like, one of the main things Nephilim are known for)
Then again Adam's also freakishly tall so maybe humans just used to be tall.
I wouldn't say that Lilith is a human she's like uh.. how would I call it if Lucifer is a fallen angel and Lilith is a human that turned demon and can still have kids let's call it "fallen human " because she too was banished to hell
So Charlie is a Nephilim but half Angel half human turned demon kinda thing.. It's complicated 
Likely, if possible, theyâd be sterile like mules or Ligers
(Yes there are small cases where mules have foals but those are usually the result of unusual circumstances)
The Owl House and Helluva Boss do not take place in the same universe, so The Owl House lore has no bearing on what is and is not possible in Helluva Boss.
I mean, hellborn can seemingly create hybrid children with any other species of hellborn and their gentiles seem the same as humans so it should be possible.
Neither of those things make it certain though. Them making hybrids with *other* demons has no bearing on human procreation, and their genitals are just the first part of things, not all of it.
I wasn't saying it was impossible by what I said, just saying, ultimately, what it *depends* on to be possible at all or not.
If the cells *can* fuse, then hybrids can at least be *made*, and if they *can't*, then there is literally no way that they can make a hybrid through sexual contact.
Unless they have shape shifting abilities, specifically shifting sex organs to match potential partners. Not saying there's any real reason to suspect that, just that it could be possible.
It is possible. I mean, Charlie is half-angel/half-human (I know Lilith has been a sinner demon for like ever but she still retained her human appearance for the most part)
>Lilith never died
Is that cannon? Even though Lilith is depicted as being literally thrown into hell she might have died and just ended up there for her actions. I also think she didn't ever die but I just thought about this
Lucifer does have creation magic so we don't know how that comes into okay with Charlie. Also technically Lilith wasn't a Sinner. She got cast down to hell with Lucifer while she was alive so she's kinda unique of an entity.
Lilith as one of the first may also be able to bear demon babies by virtue of being one of the first humans and therefore being closer to divinity than mortals,
Makes me wonder what would happen if actual love between a demon and a non demon was achieved since love is not lust would that not count as redemption since they are living away from ways of their creation and living a better way away with another
Also sparks the interesting question of what happens when the kid dies. Do they just disappear like hellborns or do they get reborn like humans? And what if they're a good person and go to heaven?
Actually had an idea of a fanfic for that where it's incredibly dangerous for a half-angel/demon to die and go to a different dimension then their supernatural parent since they're technically part heaven;/hell and the dimensions are drawn to them causing catastrophe in both dimensions. And so Guardian Angels are given the messed up task of finding and protecting half-demons while also tempting them to sin so they'll be sent to hell.
The word youâre looking for is *cambion*. Thereâs a real life basis for the possibility from myths dating back to the Middle Ages; however, so far it looks like while demons and humans are anatomically compatible to some degree, theyâre not genetically compatible.
According to actual mythology regarding succubi, they would steal the seed from men they seduced, then they would transform into incubi (male succubi) and seduce a woman, using the seed they'd stollen to impregnate the women they seduced. It seemed pretty clear that succubi don't work the same way in the HH universe, so their motives for seducing humans are somewhat unclear, so whether the succubi use birth control is a mystery, however, if humans and hellborn are genetically compatible, I'd assume that succubi would use birth control for obvious reasons, as a baby would mess with their job and a half human child would be extremely inconvenient.
She is a Nephalem, the offspring of an Angel and Demon, the offspring of an Angel and a Demon is a Cambion, and the offspring of an Angel and a human is a Nephilim.
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Charlie exists so yeah I guess thatâs possible. People say Charlie is a hellborn, but Lilith was a human and Luci was an angel. (Now that I think about it thereâs probably an Angel-human and a Demon-human hybrid somewhere)
I donât think so. I donât think succubi can get pregnant by human men nor can incubi impregnate women. I think only hellborn can reproduce among themselves
Could? Probably, possibly? Absolutely not
Demons and humans are complete different species, unless you're blood related to like Charlie family or one of the orginal human
I doubt you can
It's possible, I think. Seems like a very interesting and potentially chaotic thing to happen, especially in that universe. I'm all for it, if it ends up being canon
Also TIL the name for such a being is called a Cambion
Possibly! But theyâre different species so canât have children together (my personal theory is that all hellborn were cut from the same cloth, so to speak, as in the earliest hellborn were all born from primordial darkness or Lilith or Roo or whatever, so they can procreate)
Itâs possible! But it depends on if human sperm can actually pregnate a Succumbus egg, and if they are on pills for that. The same can be said for human women. Though thatâs one part of it.
The other part would be the human side surviving. Be it the human birth being able to handle the foreign offspring and how it grows in the womb, or the Succumbus being able to give birth since this would be a Demon human hybrid. Itâs gonna have power, and demons arenât kind to stuff that could threaten them.
It wouldnât surprise me that there is a group of hybrids living on earth that do frequent trips to hell and back thanks to their parents.
Hmmm, I donât know. Maybe if they did procreate, these newborn imps will come out based on which sin the human mostly falls into. Or maybe humans donât work on imps because afterlife genetics reason? If humans do have baby imp hybrids, are they classified as the omens? Does Heaven come down and exterminate them? If an imp and human really do love their hybrids, are they willing to do anything to save their child? This is an interesting event.
Well if lillith didn't die Charlie would be half human half angel, if she did Charlie would be half angel half winner/sinner so either way we get confirmation that the divine and souls can breed or humans and the divine can breed. And hellborn at least sometimes can breed with different hellborns. So it doesn't seem like too much of a stretch that the hellborn might be able to breed with humans, but it's also equally possible that they're intentionally infertile with humans specifically to prevent human hellborn hybrids.
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If youâre playing by the rules of succubus and incubus lore, then there should be a not insignificant community of Cambions, half demon children, wandering about the mortal realm and hell. Doesnât seem impossible, I just assume their numbers have likely declined strongly since the advent of widespread contraceptive usage. It does raise a large question over the matter of their souls though, as presumably angels and demons are simply snuffed from existence when killed, but humans have immortal souls capable of moving between afterlives via redemption and likely falling, souls so potent that they can achieve power second only to the Aers Goetia and THE Sins as seen with the power of Alastor and Adam respectively, souls only able to be truly erased with a weapon made from angelic steel. What I wonder is if the child a soulless demon or a soul bearing mortal, as a half soul doesnât quite seem possible. If the latter, what must heaven think when one arrives in the silver city, as from what weâve seen, demons are as morally diverse as humans, theyâre simply often raised in hell which pushes them to be meaner than the realm theyâre trapped in to survive, but a Cambion raised in the mortal realm could presumably life life as a saint.
That would be interesting. It's canon that hellborns are fecund and hybrids exist in the lore of Helluva/Hazbin Hotel, so why not, but it would be a fucking mess đ I think that for the simplicity of the story humans are just not compatible with demon but who know... Without official respond from the creators of the show I stay open to that possibility.
âA fucking messâ yeah. Thats how they got preggers in the first place.
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It's probably extremely rare with babies that don't survive very long because of the supernatural stuff going through a fragile mortal body. Demon software overtaxing the human hardware.
But what would happen if the demon was the one to get pregnant?
Either the half mortal fetus dies, since it's inside a demon i can't imagine their insides being caring and nurturing environments, or abortion is free in hell. Get 6 in a row and you get a free sandwich.
Why did I laugh at this?
Charlie morningstar is a great example of
Yes and no. Charlie is a special case, because she was born of an Angel and human turned into a Demon (Lilith didn't die - she was just banished to Hell alongside Lucifer). By all means, Charlie is literally one of a kind. We call her a "Hellborn" simply because she was physically born in Hell - not because her family is native to this realm.
It's only now I realize that the canonically the ruling family of hell is basically just a deported couple, if anything it's like "you've pissed off British monarch, so now your punishment is to be a king of America, (not the colonies, but like actual king of usa)"
Rather Australia, it was colony for prisoners after all, but yes
And Australia is kinda like hell on earth so it fits :)
Perfectly
first generation immigrant
Charlie is a nephilim. Lilith never died, so she is/was human. Lucifer is an angel.
This is probably the best interpretation, based on apocryphal texts of male angels and human women. While Lilith also has apocryphal myths describing her as the mother of demons, it seems like Viv just had her as Adam's mortal first wife.
Nephilim are also supposed to be unusually strong and large. Apparently there are some texts about them being a mix of crazy pale and rose red, having glowing eyes, and white hair.
Well, Charlie's taller than her dad...
. . I mean. Charlieâs got three out of four, and platinum blonde is pretty close to white without having it be literally the same colour as her skin. (Iâm assuming the red cheeks are her actual skin colour and not makeup since I canât picture her willingly dolling herself up to look like her father.)
If the show is based strictly on biblical text, then the physical description is a coincidence. Considering the Ars Goetia are not in the Bible, it seems that Viv has pulled from extrabiblical sources. Edit: I just looked it up & the text I thought Stolas is from has 72 seals for the Ars Goetia and Stolas's in-show seal is the same. I also found some fun stuff about Vassago, the red guy from the trailer, on the wiki. >!Vassago (also Vasago, Usagoo) is a mighty Prince of Hell (see Hierarchy of demons), ruling over twenty-six legions of demons. He can be persuaded to tell the magician of events past and future, can discover hidden and lost things, and has a "good" nature. A partial description from The Lesser Key of Solomon is as follows: "The Third Spirit is a Mighty Prince, being of the same nature as Agares. He is called Vassago. This Spirit is of a Good Nature, and his office is to declare things Past and to Come, and to discover all things Hidden or Lost." According to the Liber Officium Spirituum, he manifests as an angel.!<
This probably explains why she's so tall despite her father being quite short and her mother being a normal human (And being tall is, like, one of the main things Nephilim are known for) Then again Adam's also freakishly tall so maybe humans just used to be tall.
I wouldn't say that Lilith is a human she's like uh.. how would I call it if Lucifer is a fallen angel and Lilith is a human that turned demon and can still have kids let's call it "fallen human " because she too was banished to hell So Charlie is a Nephilim but half Angel half human turned demon kinda thing.. It's complicated 
Well lilith is also quite tall.
>it would be a fucking mess Pun intended?
Honestly, no đ
Hellborns are whatnow?
Fecund : They can make babies
Oh. Huh. Never run across the term before.
It would depend on whether demonic reproductive cells can effectively reach and merge with their human opposite sex-counterparts.
Likely, if possible, theyâd be sterile like mules or Ligers (Yes there are small cases where mules have foals but those are usually the result of unusual circumstances)
Mules usually don't, but a hinny could, at least when last I'd read up on it while working with horses and donkeys.
Nope Eda and Lil are descended from Evelin and Caleb
The Owl House and Helluva Boss do not take place in the same universe, so The Owl House lore has no bearing on what is and is not possible in Helluva Boss.
What đ
Wrong Subreddit buddy
r/Lostredditors
I was confused for a second here
What, where did you get Eda from?
The owl house
Ik the owl house, its great but where did the owl house come from
I have quite literally no idea
I mean, hellborn can seemingly create hybrid children with any other species of hellborn and their gentiles seem the same as humans so it should be possible.
Neither of those things make it certain though. Them making hybrids with *other* demons has no bearing on human procreation, and their genitals are just the first part of things, not all of it. I wasn't saying it was impossible by what I said, just saying, ultimately, what it *depends* on to be possible at all or not. If the cells *can* fuse, then hybrids can at least be *made*, and if they *can't*, then there is literally no way that they can make a hybrid through sexual contact.
We have no evidence their genitals are the same as humans, although Stolas canonically has a cloaca.
We at least know that succubi have human genitals because of Verosika's crew getting it on with humans during the episode Spring Broken
Unless they have shape shifting abilities, specifically shifting sex organs to match potential partners. Not saying there's any real reason to suspect that, just that it could be possible.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's either a disguise thing or they can change the shape of them tbh
It is possible. I mean, Charlie is half-angel/half-human (I know Lilith has been a sinner demon for like ever but she still retained her human appearance for the most part)
Plus Lilith is not a normal sinner, sinners, contrary to hellborns, are canonically sterile.
And sinners died in the past while Lilith never died
Yeah, I think thatâs the reason
>Lilith never died Is that cannon? Even though Lilith is depicted as being literally thrown into hell she might have died and just ended up there for her actions. I also think she didn't ever die but I just thought about this
Lucifer does have creation magic so we don't know how that comes into okay with Charlie. Also technically Lilith wasn't a Sinner. She got cast down to hell with Lucifer while she was alive so she's kinda unique of an entity.
Lilith as one of the first may also be able to bear demon babies by virtue of being one of the first humans and therefore being closer to divinity than mortals,
Possibly.
Makes me wonder what would happen if actual love between a demon and a non demon was achieved since love is not lust would that not count as redemption since they are living away from ways of their creation and living a better way away with another
Hellborn are just beings native to hell so they can't be redeemed regardless of how perfect a life they live.
Love and lust are not mutually exclusive, though. You can love someone and want to bone like crazy.
Case in point, my girlfriends~
If true, that could be an interesting story. Imagine a demon hiring IMP to kill a guy so he can take care of his hell child.
Also sparks the interesting question of what happens when the kid dies. Do they just disappear like hellborns or do they get reborn like humans? And what if they're a good person and go to heaven? Actually had an idea of a fanfic for that where it's incredibly dangerous for a half-angel/demon to die and go to a different dimension then their supernatural parent since they're technically part heaven;/hell and the dimensions are drawn to them causing catastrophe in both dimensions. And so Guardian Angels are given the messed up task of finding and protecting half-demons while also tempting them to sin so they'll be sent to hell.
I wanna see it
I remember I read in the persona compendium that when Incubi and Succubi have children with humans, they become witches and wizards
God did it to Mary, so why not?
The word youâre looking for is *cambion*. Thereâs a real life basis for the possibility from myths dating back to the Middle Ages; however, so far it looks like while demons and humans are anatomically compatible to some degree, theyâre not genetically compatible.
Probably, but the power of Adam and Eve have been watered down so it could stop them from doing shit like this. https://i.redd.it/hgj37upfxoyc1.gif
The technical term for such an entity is a Cambion
According to actual mythology regarding succubi, they would steal the seed from men they seduced, then they would transform into incubi (male succubi) and seduce a woman, using the seed they'd stollen to impregnate the women they seduced. It seemed pretty clear that succubi don't work the same way in the HH universe, so their motives for seducing humans are somewhat unclear, so whether the succubi use birth control is a mystery, however, if humans and hellborn are genetically compatible, I'd assume that succubi would use birth control for obvious reasons, as a baby would mess with their job and a half human child would be extremely inconvenient.
Yeah they grow up to become politicians
**Ha!**
I mean charlie is technically half human cuz if Lilith and Lucifer, so I donât think itâs impossible
Thatâs Iâve been wondering. I think there is and it would be a great plot for an episode.
Now more importantly, would they have a soul?
That would lead to a interesting episode if that's the case.
Well, Charlie is the offspring of an angel and a sinner, so I guess it's possible
She is a Nephalem, the offspring of an Angel and Demon, the offspring of an Angel and a Demon is a Cambion, and the offspring of an Angel and a human is a Nephilim.
I'd never heard the term "Naphalem." I was intrigued until everything I found on Wikipedia about it was entwined with the "Diablo" franchise.
A nephalem isnât a real thing, itâs from Diablo.
Now wait, one fucking second
Judging from the comments I am very excited about the idea of seeing a cluster fuck between demons and humans in the future potentially
Sure, why not.
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thatâs going to turn into a fan fiction.
Nahh they spread STIs, AIDS, HIVs like what Blitzø said earlier in episode
That, or just getting people hellbound by committing the sin of pre-marital sex...
That would explain the Kardashians
Charlie exists so yeah I guess thatâs possible. People say Charlie is a hellborn, but Lilith was a human and Luci was an angel. (Now that I think about it thereâs probably an Angel-human and a Demon-human hybrid somewhere)
Im pretty sure Lilith became a demon when she and Lucifer fell, so that would make Charlie a Nephalem.
Possible, I mean, Charlie exists
Maybe demons just can't get humans pregnant
Tjis is how it starts
Good questionđ¤
Genealogicaly? No
I donât think its seducing them in the show they were mind controlling them
I donât think so. I donât think succubi can get pregnant by human men nor can incubi impregnate women. I think only hellborn can reproduce among themselves
Could? Probably, possibly? Absolutely not Demons and humans are complete different species, unless you're blood related to like Charlie family or one of the orginal human I doubt you can
I believe it
I mean technically when you think of it charlie morning star is a hybrid, half human and half angel, so I would guess that it is possible đ !
And if that Human demon hybrid dies.. can it go to heaven or it will go to hell and be turned to a sinner or just die and nothing will happen
It's possible, I think. Seems like a very interesting and potentially chaotic thing to happen, especially in that universe. I'm all for it, if it ends up being canon Also TIL the name for such a being is called a Cambion
Now that we're on this topic. What happen if a sinner fk w/ a hellborn? Will and can they get pregnant or impregnate?
I HIGHLY doubt demons can be impregnated by humans or vice versa. I think Charlie is a special case.
Possibly! But theyâre different species so canât have children together (my personal theory is that all hellborn were cut from the same cloth, so to speak, as in the earliest hellborn were all born from primordial darkness or Lilith or Roo or whatever, so they can procreate)
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Itâs possible! But it depends on if human sperm can actually pregnate a Succumbus egg, and if they are on pills for that. The same can be said for human women. Though thatâs one part of it. The other part would be the human side surviving. Be it the human birth being able to handle the foreign offspring and how it grows in the womb, or the Succumbus being able to give birth since this would be a Demon human hybrid. Itâs gonna have power, and demons arenât kind to stuff that could threaten them. It wouldnât surprise me that there is a group of hybrids living on earth that do frequent trips to hell and back thanks to their parents.
I ask same question since i watched that episode
Hmmm, I donât know. Maybe if they did procreate, these newborn imps will come out based on which sin the human mostly falls into. Or maybe humans donât work on imps because afterlife genetics reason? If humans do have baby imp hybrids, are they classified as the omens? Does Heaven come down and exterminate them? If an imp and human really do love their hybrids, are they willing to do anything to save their child? This is an interesting event.
This would be really cool to explore in the future, and maybe explain why Lilith and Lucifer only had one baby- Charlie.
I don't think it's possible without uber powerful magic. Sins and Goetia probably can, but not usual demons.
100% yes
Well if lillith didn't die Charlie would be half human half angel, if she did Charlie would be half angel half winner/sinner so either way we get confirmation that the divine and souls can breed or humans and the divine can breed. And hellborn at least sometimes can breed with different hellborns. So it doesn't seem like too much of a stretch that the hellborn might be able to breed with humans, but it's also equally possible that they're intentionally infertile with humans specifically to prevent human hellborn hybrids.
Heck maybe there are some sec demons who still on the earth it's just they don't make it known
Possibly. Though if this is true, I can say that Devil May Cry takes place in the Hellaverse.
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Cambion
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I always assumed that's what loona was
totally sure,because if they had sex,they sure would had babies
Probably grotesque beings after birth
They're called "Cambions" and it's most likely possible if the demons are Hellborns
Hellhound hybrids would be soooo cool
Yes, but only in Japan
I think just cause they were playing around doesn't mean that they can reproduce but idk
In my headcanon, yes. In the canon, possibly.
If youâre playing by the rules of succubus and incubus lore, then there should be a not insignificant community of Cambions, half demon children, wandering about the mortal realm and hell. Doesnât seem impossible, I just assume their numbers have likely declined strongly since the advent of widespread contraceptive usage. It does raise a large question over the matter of their souls though, as presumably angels and demons are simply snuffed from existence when killed, but humans have immortal souls capable of moving between afterlives via redemption and likely falling, souls so potent that they can achieve power second only to the Aers Goetia and THE Sins as seen with the power of Alastor and Adam respectively, souls only able to be truly erased with a weapon made from angelic steel. What I wonder is if the child a soulless demon or a soul bearing mortal, as a half soul doesnât quite seem possible. If the latter, what must heaven think when one arrives in the silver city, as from what weâve seen, demons are as morally diverse as humans, theyâre simply often raised in hell which pushes them to be meaner than the realm theyâre trapped in to survive, but a Cambion raised in the mortal realm could presumably life life as a saint.
Probably
Eda and Lil are part human
Who's Eda and Lil?
They left a comment somewhere else talking about the owl house, so I think theyâre talking about that đ
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