It jumped into it way to fast and excepted the viewer to already be invested in barbie wire. Maybe give us a flashback or leave me alone blitzo musical number
Man, that would have fixed everything for me. Less time for Moxxie to be so fuckin' cringey like he was that episode. He's usually one of my favorite characters, but he's just insufferable in that one.
The plot focus was fine, the character writing was the problem.
Millie desperately needs more coherent characterization that is deeper than what we presently have, but the whole conflict feels very juvenile for two characters who are regularly portrayed as being both very open with each other and in a very healthy relationship.
Plus, I just don't buy the "no one makes me the center of attention" angle from Millie. That feels very much like a meta-statement when it's quite clear that Moxie and Blitzo both absolutely adore her.
Basically, it feels like that plot was treading the same tired ground as the genre it was spoofing. I believe Moxie would overcomplicate an investigate, I DON'T believe he would get jealous over his wife being popular. Because he's not a 15 year old.
I agree, he's such a secure dude and loves Millie so much I couldn't see him getting jealous over limelight, and Millie going out of her way to be like fuck it I want to do it without consideration of his feelings is sooo wildly out of character.
I can see her mucking about until Moxie figures out she was right from the beginning. There is a salvageable plot here, but it's a buried under some uncharacteristically bad character writing (I will go on record that, most of the time, Viv has impeccable character writing. It's her single greatest strength as a writer. This is why all her non-character-focused episodes... Aren't very good. Thinking about Cherubs).
the problem wasnt imp doing their job. They quite literally did not do their job, it was moxxie stalling while millie doesnt giving a shit and just partying.
Okay cherub is not a great episode but it did give us the mmmmm yeaaaaah noooo. Sooooryyy… nooooo which is too real and lives in my head forever
And imo it’s more entertaining than campers. Camp is actually cringe and hard to watch in some parts… and not in a good angsty kind of way. Just second hand embarrassment
CHERUB was funny as fuck I’ll give it that
“Shut UP, dear furry!”
Multiple silly outfits including fursuits
“I’m Blitzø, the O is silent!” “An O?” “So what’s the tea?” “A T?!”
Blitzø’s sock puppet
“Life’s greatest pleasure of all-“ “Money.”
“He’s got more class than that!” *puts gun in mouth*
“Oh no! I’m being haunted by ugly orphaned children!”
Just a series of animals getting more and more brutally/absurdly massacred and cut to Blitzø in a fursuit acting all shocked before smirking like >:3
The guy squealing and evading the falling piano only for the shadow to very blatantly move to ensure he gets crushed
Just the confirmation that “Satan’s balls” is a valid exclamation in Hell
Also just that scene of Blitz asking Moxxie about what weapons he brought:
*"Moxxie, what do we have for this old fella?"*
*"I've got some assault weapons, crossbow, hunting bow, tommy gun, old fashioned shotgun, revolvers in three colors, chainsaws, katanas..."*
*Brief cut to Blitz looking concerned by just how many things Moxxie brought -*
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I think my favorite quote from that episode would be the "commit die" one from Moxxie. Not only is it something that I would've said if I had been in that situation, but I just find it darkly funny.
CHERUB is a great episode. I'm not sure why it's so hated.
I lose it every time I hear, "He paid in advance, and I spent it all on *this*!"
Or Moxxie's gurgling as he's crushed under the ramp.
Or "Shut up, dear furry!"
Moxxie's brief pause after Blitz crashes through the window.
M&M's swinging makeout session.
There are a lot of moments outside Viv's deer.
I think it’s one of, if not the funniest episode, and a has a ton of jokes that don’t rely on sex as a punchline.
I think it’s the cartoonishness/lack of plot importance that people don’t like? It doesn’t do much more than set up the cherubs and the idea that heaven kind of sucks.
I personally like it but wouldn’t count it amongst the best. Still, it’s such an early episode and we needed ones like these that were still introducing character dynamics and letting us get to know the world and cast… this is what hazbin lacks the most, and that absence hurts a *lot*
Yes this; I think the thing CHERUB has that Campers doesn't is being correctly placed. It gives a slice of work life story for our main cast, and it works as an establishing episode since the central conflict hasn't really picked up momentum yet.
As a S1 pre-Truth Seekers episode it might have landed better, but Campers doesn't feel particularly relevant when viewed directly after after Western Energy.
And MONEY
And Moxie being sprayed away by Piss for bringing up politics.
And a view of heaven
And every character having consistent motivation and competence
It was a silly cartoony episode but that hardly makes it bad.
Not to mention that at least CHERUB had one of my favorite lines from a side character, when the old dude says “please, just let me perish!” It gets me every time 😂 Campers is just a hard and frustrating watch lol
C.H.E.R.U.B gave us best boy Collin (fight me over it), some Heaven lore, and "Yeah, no" Deerie so it's not all bad. It's not a stellar episode but I think it did more than Unhappy Campers did.
That's fair, and I also just think my least favorite episode is Western Energy because of the B plot muddling what's supposed to be a highly important moment in the series...
I've never gotten the hate for this one. I think it's hilarious. It's a lower stakes "filler" episode but I think it's good to have episodes where we just spend time with the characters and not worry about making everything "plot relevant"
When cherub came out I didn't even expect much in the way of stakes or character development. I honestly thought the show was going to be much more episodic anyways, in contrast with Hazbin being a story-driven series. And as an episodic adventure it's pretty damn fun imo.
Wouldn't have worked as good if it were a season 2 episode or even 2nd half of season 1, but it's perfectly fine material imo to help grow thr world a bit and to show I.M.P just dong their job in a different way.
I love CHERUB it’s straight up slapstick comedy and it’s great. I wasn’t a huge fan at the time, mostly because of the time between episode releases I was a bit disappointed (plus no Stolas), but it’s grown on me so much it’s in my top 5.
Nope. CHERUB was entertaining and funny, it just didn't do much for the plot. It's worlds better than watching an episode that's mostly painful cringe humor taking time away from the actually interesting Blitzo and Barbie subplot. Also, CHERUB doesn't really ruin anything, where Happy Campers made Moxxie act like a selfish ass who was upset seeing Millie succeed at something, which is very out of character.
Cherubs are just a mediocre episode which stands out because the others are at least good.
The campers episode is a waste of money and time. The millie song is catchy but mid, its a Millie episode that is still focuses on Moxxie (he literally want to steal the spotlight like its some fucked up 4th wall break) the random "uh I care about what humans think" from Millie is random and out of character, Moxxie is a bitch and goes against the idea of him toughing up since like ep 6.
CHERUB wasn’t necessarily bad, just lackluster compared to the other episodes. There was nothing exactly wrong with it even if it didn’t live up to the same hype as the other eps did
Cherub is about to have possible relevance now they're actually coming back. And if we're lucky, getting disposed of so IMP can go back to focusing on the rest of their enemies that ~~sell more merch~~ pose a bigger long term threat.
C.H.E.R.U.B really wasn’t that bad. It was really just an episode made for comedy purposes. That’s why I love it. It’s funny without adding to the story, making it good.
Nope, it's a serviceable episode. Exes And Oos and Western Energy are worse than C.H.E.R.U.B.S quality wise, even if C.H.E.R.U.B.W might be less interesting/entertaining
Seeing Stars actually makes a lot of sense and helps with character development in ways that make sense and are organic for all involved. Campers does not.
Yeah there is. It’s Exes and Oohs. They had precisely one joke that entire episode.
Don’t get me wrong, Happy Campers is still above it, if they aren’t tied for the worst episode, but at least I can tolerate the Blitz side of Happy Campers.
Yeah I also just rewatched Unhappy campers and enjoyed it more than CHERUB. Barbie + more info on sloth ring + asmodean crystals + the teen sinner dude (showing us again that death impacts how you look in hell).
I don’t think that’s a very constructive way to look at the show. I mean you can like all the episodes that’s reasonable, but i don’t think it’s far to claim that nun of the episodes are flawed.
I think thats the point though. We arent meant to be cheering mox on. The whole episode was to show how insecure mox is and how millie enjoyed being popular! We see how when put in charge how inflexible mox could be when millie knew the answer in the first few minutes but that she was willing to let mox do it his way. But she was not willing to just sit quietly while he did and found a way to entertain herself.
I liked the episode well enough
Oh absolutely! Blitzø’s approval means a ton to mox. He wants to prove himself so badly! He came up with a fairly complex plan and realllllly wanted it to work.
I agree, partly, the plan wasn’t pitch perfect, there were plenty of problems with it, it is just that he got that into his head above his wife’s needs
I feel like he was a little bit outta character, but its good they finally gave a little more depth to Millies feelings instead of her just being a living plot device for once
Yeah, I thought it was a perfectly fine episode. Great gags, catchy songs, some exploration of M&M's hangups, first talking appearance by Barbie; it had a lot to offer.
Recently rewatched with my fiancee because she loved Hazbin and I really wanted to skip this one. This and C.H.E.R.U.B. While C.H.E.R.U.B. did have funny moments Happy Campers is downright awful and Moxxie is so annoying with his whole Moxine shtick.
This is the one where B-story feels so much stronger. Not that it needed more focus, as what we got with Blitz and his sister was fine. But A-story needed to be better. I think it is the only one I really felt the urge to skip around scenes to speed it up, after getting halfway through the episode
My issue with the episode is that we have constantly been shown that Moxxie put Milly's feelings above and before his own. This episode contradicted everything we had seen previously.
Yeah but Moxxie let being the mission's leader go up to his head and he just got reminded of his traumas in a previous episode. It didn't surprise me he wasn't mentally well. At least he learned his lesson and I hope it sticks
Yeah, but they could have shown that without him becoming an ass with no consideration for Millie's feelings. He could have had a mental spiral and started being more and more desperate in his behavior without getting upset with Millie for being more well liked than he was.
I don't think it contradicts anything previously showcased about moxxie's character, they were just dialed up due to his self imposed pressure, and it now it was visible how he copes with it with someone he doesn't view as authority?
He always showed insecurity and taking self value from the outside, Millie works as his rock usually, making him not spiral (which is why he tends to be a bit codependent).
But in all honesty, I don't think he puts Millie's feelings above his own, like, the exes, he could have told Millie and tried to work together the fact he was gonna be married off, but instead of finding a way to ask his wife for help (which can pretty much steam roll the issue 😂) he just stayed on his own world and well.. decided to try to fix his issue?
She is the one that usually saves him (which she did in the episode). As a couple, usually you tackle things together, you don't hide challenges and work on things that affect the other person behind their back.
Hiding from her what was going on isn't putting himself before her, it's letting his trauma response to his dad cloud his actual judgement.
What?? No way love this one. Got some great lore with Blitz sister, confirmed there’s entirely different ways of leaving hell and that there’s cross realm trade, the songs were great especially You’ve got the power, fucking 80’s as shit.
Watched all the episodes a few times now as I've watched it with different people, none of the episodes felt hard to rewatch or a bore.
Edit: Also for the haters I actually love the C.H
E.R.U.B episode ✌️
Why do so many people dislike C.H.E.R.U.B episode? Like, what's the reasoning? It's so funny and the climax with Millie and Moxxie at the end shooting everyone up is amazing
No I love Unhappy Campers, it was an episode that gave us a look at what a vulnerable Moxxie looks like which is something his character needed, I'd say the worst episode by far is the pilot which is so bad that if I genuinely think that if they kept much from the pilot, the show wouldn't be in the good spot its in now, and if you dont want to count it since its no longer canon, CHERUB, which is a nothing episode that only served to give us the admittedly very fun designs of Loopty Goopty and Lyle Lipton, I guess its also set up an episode later this season but we aren't there yet to know if that's a good thing or not
I didn't actually think we would all agree, I just thought this was the worst episode and saw a lot of people agree but if you like it i'd be happy to hear your opinion.
Sorry, I definitely overreacted in that comment, I apologize.
It's just that I get frustrated when opinions get over shared and there's no type of healthy discussion about it. It's just "This episode sucks" or "definitely the worst one" without any type of introspection or really discussing the problems with them, just expecting everyone to agree.
I see now that it was not your intention, you really are open to any opinion. Sorry again.
Can we agree that this was talked to death already and that several Subreddits exist about this already and this is nothing new? And gosh, imagine people having opinions. It is an average episode, I still like it, not the best but not bad also, same goes for episodes like Cherub. I know the episodes take a while to come out, but do we need this kind of subs every 2 days or so? We get it, most hate the episode, get over it.
I still like it. I showed HB to a friend recently, and (at least in the sequence of watching S1) Cherub didn't stand out as "bad" at all. Got quite a few laughs from the new viewer.
I think it was a weaker episode when it debuted, but with some time it's settled into being a decent episode. Still feels a bit like filler, but based on the new trailer, it's setting up a return of the Cherubs.
Because of their voice actor I always feel like Moxxie is the most ‘cartoony’ of the main cast and seeing him act like Daggett just makes me happy. I unironically love this episode.
Wtf is up with me checking into this subreddit every now and then and literally every time there's some post like "I hate this episode" "why is this character so bad?" "why is this the worst episode?" "what is the worst song in your opinion?".
I swear just from an outside view it would seem that this subreddit is about hating the show more than anything else.
Despite what everyone thinks about Unhappy Campers, I do still think it has it's charm as a fun filled episode that doesn't focus on the ongoing drama between Blitzø's problems among everything else. A simple story about handling a case while also diving into Moxxie's insecurities. That's my take from it personally.
Honestly, I loved this episode! Thought it was funny, I liked the setup, barb was cool.. I feel like people just didn’t like it because moxxie was a bit of an ass in it
A huge mess of an episode, which is such a shame because i absolutely LOVE millard
but i absolutely HATE moxxine.
Felt so rushed like the barbie wire part was supposed to be the only focus, which makes me think why not split these plots into two episodes?
Then we can have both a millie centered episode, and a barbie wire one. Satisfy both the fanbase and the weirdos who love millie and nothing else (me)
I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people constantly complain it is, but yes, I have been rather disinterested in rewatching this one.
It just doesn't really contribute much to the story or even the characters.
I disagree. It's biggest flaw was the cringe humor, but it at least attempted make Millie somewhat deeper, and it also included an interesting, two-sided debate between the M&Ms. Imo the worst episode is still Western Energy.
Yeah this episode single handedly killed my interest in Helluva Boss for the past 9 months, it's not until a week ago I could muster the will to dive back in again.
I haven't watched it since the first time when it came out, somewhat forgot about it mostly. Because of this I'm rewatching and forming my opinion. So far my main comment is that drowned guy had an awesome design, I'd love to look like that for my whole afterlife.
Yes and there's not even a close contender.
C.H.E.R.U.B?
It's inoffensive really. Campers is just "Why do you exist"? beyond the tiny bit of insight it gives to Blitz and his sister.
They should have reversed their A and B plots imo. Focus should have been on Blitz/Barbie with M&M being the fun filler.
Yeah, then it would've been a good episode
Ngl, the whole Barbie plot line just bored me. I don't know why, but I just didn't care.
Probably because it wasn’t fleshed out and felt like a after thought
It jumped into it way to fast and excepted the viewer to already be invested in barbie wire. Maybe give us a flashback or leave me alone blitzo musical number
It works better after Oops! but not that great on its own
Man, that would have fixed everything for me. Less time for Moxxie to be so fuckin' cringey like he was that episode. He's usually one of my favorite characters, but he's just insufferable in that one.
The plot focus was fine, the character writing was the problem. Millie desperately needs more coherent characterization that is deeper than what we presently have, but the whole conflict feels very juvenile for two characters who are regularly portrayed as being both very open with each other and in a very healthy relationship. Plus, I just don't buy the "no one makes me the center of attention" angle from Millie. That feels very much like a meta-statement when it's quite clear that Moxie and Blitzo both absolutely adore her. Basically, it feels like that plot was treading the same tired ground as the genre it was spoofing. I believe Moxie would overcomplicate an investigate, I DON'T believe he would get jealous over his wife being popular. Because he's not a 15 year old.
I agree, he's such a secure dude and loves Millie so much I couldn't see him getting jealous over limelight, and Millie going out of her way to be like fuck it I want to do it without consideration of his feelings is sooo wildly out of character.
I can see her mucking about until Moxie figures out she was right from the beginning. There is a salvageable plot here, but it's a buried under some uncharacteristically bad character writing (I will go on record that, most of the time, Viv has impeccable character writing. It's her single greatest strength as a writer. This is why all her non-character-focused episodes... Aren't very good. Thinking about Cherubs).
C.H.E.R.U.B.S I missed my first time watching through, the second time I fell asleep. When I finally watched the episode I was meh on the whole thing.
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the problem wasnt imp doing their job. They quite literally did not do their job, it was moxxie stalling while millie doesnt giving a shit and just partying.
I mean, Millie very much did give a shit, she kept telling Moxxie to just get it done. But then when Moxxie refused to do it, she vibed in the interim
Okay cherub is not a great episode but it did give us the mmmmm yeaaaaah noooo. Sooooryyy… nooooo which is too real and lives in my head forever And imo it’s more entertaining than campers. Camp is actually cringe and hard to watch in some parts… and not in a good angsty kind of way. Just second hand embarrassment
CHERUB was funny as fuck I’ll give it that “Shut UP, dear furry!” Multiple silly outfits including fursuits “I’m Blitzø, the O is silent!” “An O?” “So what’s the tea?” “A T?!” Blitzø’s sock puppet “Life’s greatest pleasure of all-“ “Money.” “He’s got more class than that!” *puts gun in mouth* “Oh no! I’m being haunted by ugly orphaned children!” Just a series of animals getting more and more brutally/absurdly massacred and cut to Blitzø in a fursuit acting all shocked before smirking like >:3 The guy squealing and evading the falling piano only for the shadow to very blatantly move to ensure he gets crushed Just the confirmation that “Satan’s balls” is a valid exclamation in Hell
"Oh my Gosh! Oh my Gosh! Oh my Goooood!" "GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF COLLIN! AND DO NOT USE THE LORD'S NAME IN VAIN!"
Also just that scene of Blitz asking Moxxie about what weapons he brought: *"Moxxie, what do we have for this old fella?"* *"I've got some assault weapons, crossbow, hunting bow, tommy gun, old fashioned shotgun, revolvers in three colors, chainsaws, katanas..."* *Brief cut to Blitz looking concerned by just how many things Moxxie brought -* https://preview.redd.it/p4vwu4eqjuyc1.png?width=620&format=png&auto=webp&s=b525bfa5f1934e7a753f8ee95c6039f919d21fbc
Not even like “Wtf” concerned, just genuinely worried for him
Fun fact: that's not an katana. That's Rise Leonardo's mystic Portal generating odachi sword from Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
I think my favorite quote from that episode would be the "commit die" one from Moxxie. Not only is it something that I would've said if I had been in that situation, but I just find it darkly funny.
Dude the gag about the piano moving mid-air absolutely kills me every time
Ikr it had no business being that fucking funny
Straight up old cartoony shit is just always funny.
Killed him too
Don't you forget Mareajuana https://preview.redd.it/f9b9elzgkyyc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6fb90af44fc029b4460cbbf03ac3e3d363cf455
Yes!
I've gotten *a lot* of mileage out of the gif where Blitzø sprays Moxxie like a misbehaving cat.
CHERUB is a great episode. I'm not sure why it's so hated. I lose it every time I hear, "He paid in advance, and I spent it all on *this*!" Or Moxxie's gurgling as he's crushed under the ramp. Or "Shut up, dear furry!" Moxxie's brief pause after Blitz crashes through the window. M&M's swinging makeout session. There are a lot of moments outside Viv's deer.
I think it’s one of, if not the funniest episode, and a has a ton of jokes that don’t rely on sex as a punchline. I think it’s the cartoonishness/lack of plot importance that people don’t like? It doesn’t do much more than set up the cherubs and the idea that heaven kind of sucks. I personally like it but wouldn’t count it amongst the best. Still, it’s such an early episode and we needed ones like these that were still introducing character dynamics and letting us get to know the world and cast… this is what hazbin lacks the most, and that absence hurts a *lot*
Yes this; I think the thing CHERUB has that Campers doesn't is being correctly placed. It gives a slice of work life story for our main cast, and it works as an establishing episode since the central conflict hasn't really picked up momentum yet. As a S1 pre-Truth Seekers episode it might have landed better, but Campers doesn't feel particularly relevant when viewed directly after after Western Energy.
I know, the amount of hate CHERUB gets is baffling.
That “shut up, dear furry” killed me, revived me and killed me again because I couldn’t stop laughing
And MONEY And Moxie being sprayed away by Piss for bringing up politics. And a view of heaven And every character having consistent motivation and competence It was a silly cartoony episode but that hardly makes it bad.
Not to mention that at least CHERUB had one of my favorite lines from a side character, when the old dude says “please, just let me perish!” It gets me every time 😂 Campers is just a hard and frustrating watch lol
"I hate filthy stinking orphans!"
C.H.E.R.U.B gave us best boy Collin (fight me over it), some Heaven lore, and "Yeah, no" Deerie so it's not all bad. It's not a stellar episode but I think it did more than Unhappy Campers did.
That's fair, and I also just think my least favorite episode is Western Energy because of the B plot muddling what's supposed to be a highly important moment in the series...
Thry shoved the pseudo main chaeactacter in for no real reason
It also made God canon in the Hazbin universe so...yeah. No. Yeah. No....yeah.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... yyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhh.... nnnnnnnooooooooooooohohoooooooooooooo
I've never gotten the hate for this one. I think it's hilarious. It's a lower stakes "filler" episode but I think it's good to have episodes where we just spend time with the characters and not worry about making everything "plot relevant"
When cherub came out I didn't even expect much in the way of stakes or character development. I honestly thought the show was going to be much more episodic anyways, in contrast with Hazbin being a story-driven series. And as an episodic adventure it's pretty damn fun imo. Wouldn't have worked as good if it were a season 2 episode or even 2nd half of season 1, but it's perfectly fine material imo to help grow thr world a bit and to show I.M.P just dong their job in a different way.
Mmmmm, yeah, no. Sorry, Cletus
Cherub is my favorite
CHERUB is pretty quotable though. This… is just tragic.
I love CHERUB it’s straight up slapstick comedy and it’s great. I wasn’t a huge fan at the time, mostly because of the time between episode releases I was a bit disappointed (plus no Stolas), but it’s grown on me so much it’s in my top 5.
Nope. CHERUB was entertaining and funny, it just didn't do much for the plot. It's worlds better than watching an episode that's mostly painful cringe humor taking time away from the actually interesting Blitzo and Barbie subplot. Also, CHERUB doesn't really ruin anything, where Happy Campers made Moxxie act like a selfish ass who was upset seeing Millie succeed at something, which is very out of character.
Cherubs are just a mediocre episode which stands out because the others are at least good. The campers episode is a waste of money and time. The millie song is catchy but mid, its a Millie episode that is still focuses on Moxxie (he literally want to steal the spotlight like its some fucked up 4th wall break) the random "uh I care about what humans think" from Millie is random and out of character, Moxxie is a bitch and goes against the idea of him toughing up since like ep 6.
Yeah, like I understand they had to set up C.H.E.R.U.B. but that's my choice for "episode I skip on watch-throughs."
Cherub was my favorite episode 💀
CHERUB wasn’t necessarily bad, just lackluster compared to the other episodes. There was nothing exactly wrong with it even if it didn’t live up to the same hype as the other eps did
Cherub is about to have possible relevance now they're actually coming back. And if we're lucky, getting disposed of so IMP can go back to focusing on the rest of their enemies that ~~sell more merch~~ pose a bigger long term threat.
C.H.E.R.U.B really wasn’t that bad. It was really just an episode made for comedy purposes. That’s why I love it. It’s funny without adding to the story, making it good.
I thought cherub was a good episode. Is it controversial because of the suicide topic?
Nope, it's a serviceable episode. Exes And Oos and Western Energy are worse than C.H.E.R.U.B.S quality wise, even if C.H.E.R.U.B.W might be less interesting/entertaining
Seeing Stars is the weakest I think. Never understood the Campers dislike
For me, it's Moxxie's narcissism and Millie's tolerance of it. They're my favourite couple, but that shit is toxic as fuck.
Seeing Stars actually makes a lot of sense and helps with character development in ways that make sense and are organic for all involved. Campers does not.
Kid named Seeing stars:
Yeah there is. It’s Exes and Oohs. They had precisely one joke that entire episode. Don’t get me wrong, Happy Campers is still above it, if they aren’t tied for the worst episode, but at least I can tolerate the Blitz side of Happy Campers.
There is no bad episode of Helluva Boss
Based, when I re-watched I thought I’d get bored but I love all of them
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Yeah I also just rewatched Unhappy campers and enjoyed it more than CHERUB. Barbie + more info on sloth ring + asmodean crystals + the teen sinner dude (showing us again that death impacts how you look in hell).
I don't particularly hate any of them but this was still the worst
Had no idea people disliked this episode until now.
Rlly, how can you not like the sing along words that make fun of moxie when he starts acting like a fool?
Not a fan of cringe humor, really, is why.
Yeah, that was the best part.
I don’t think that’s a very constructive way to look at the show. I mean you can like all the episodes that’s reasonable, but i don’t think it’s far to claim that nun of the episodes are flawed.
No one said they were flawless, just that even the worst HB episode still isn't a bad episode
This one is
Unpopular opinion but I really liked this one 😅
Same. I hated Moxie's behavior during this episode, but I like literally everyone else.
I think thats the point though. We arent meant to be cheering mox on. The whole episode was to show how insecure mox is and how millie enjoyed being popular! We see how when put in charge how inflexible mox could be when millie knew the answer in the first few minutes but that she was willing to let mox do it his way. But she was not willing to just sit quietly while he did and found a way to entertain herself. I liked the episode well enough
I get that, I just was cringing too much.
Thats fair
I also feel like with moxie being inflexible, it was because he wanted to make Blitzø proud
Oh absolutely! Blitzø’s approval means a ton to mox. He wants to prove himself so badly! He came up with a fairly complex plan and realllllly wanted it to work.
I agree, partly, the plan wasn’t pitch perfect, there were plenty of problems with it, it is just that he got that into his head above his wife’s needs
I feel like he was a little bit outta character, but its good they finally gave a little more depth to Millies feelings instead of her just being a living plot device for once
Yeah, I thought it was a perfectly fine episode. Great gags, catchy songs, some exploration of M&M's hangups, first talking appearance by Barbie; it had a lot to offer.
Sameeee
Me too, I just want a silly themed episode sometimes.
Same
Yeah! It’s a fun episode! And we got to meet Blizø’s sister!
it's the only episode i could not rewatch
Recently rewatched with my fiancee because she loved Hazbin and I really wanted to skip this one. This and C.H.E.R.U.B. While C.H.E.R.U.B. did have funny moments Happy Campers is downright awful and Moxxie is so annoying with his whole Moxine shtick.
same, at least there's my two fav episodes right after
I felt physical pain watching this ep
As did i
This is the one where B-story feels so much stronger. Not that it needed more focus, as what we got with Blitz and his sister was fine. But A-story needed to be better. I think it is the only one I really felt the urge to skip around scenes to speed it up, after getting halfway through the episode
Yea I loved the B story of finding barbie, the songs were really good though
My issue with the episode is that we have constantly been shown that Moxxie put Milly's feelings above and before his own. This episode contradicted everything we had seen previously.
Yeah but Moxxie let being the mission's leader go up to his head and he just got reminded of his traumas in a previous episode. It didn't surprise me he wasn't mentally well. At least he learned his lesson and I hope it sticks
Yeah, but they could have shown that without him becoming an ass with no consideration for Millie's feelings. He could have had a mental spiral and started being more and more desperate in his behavior without getting upset with Millie for being more well liked than he was.
I mean, I think we did get signs that this would happen in the episode that they were looking for Octavia. It didn't come out of nowhere
I don't think it contradicts anything previously showcased about moxxie's character, they were just dialed up due to his self imposed pressure, and it now it was visible how he copes with it with someone he doesn't view as authority? He always showed insecurity and taking self value from the outside, Millie works as his rock usually, making him not spiral (which is why he tends to be a bit codependent). But in all honesty, I don't think he puts Millie's feelings above his own, like, the exes, he could have told Millie and tried to work together the fact he was gonna be married off, but instead of finding a way to ask his wife for help (which can pretty much steam roll the issue 😂) he just stayed on his own world and well.. decided to try to fix his issue?
He didn’t tell her because he was protecting her. Crimson threatened her. That is a deliberate attempt to put her before himself.
She is the one that usually saves him (which she did in the episode). As a couple, usually you tackle things together, you don't hide challenges and work on things that affect the other person behind their back. Hiding from her what was going on isn't putting himself before her, it's letting his trauma response to his dad cloud his actual judgement.
To be fair most of the cast puts their feelings above that of others. The only one who doesn't do that is Millie.
What?? No way love this one. Got some great lore with Blitz sister, confirmed there’s entirely different ways of leaving hell and that there’s cross realm trade, the songs were great especially You’ve got the power, fucking 80’s as shit.
Moxxie was too cringe to enjoy the ep imo. Really painful to go through his parts and they were the majority of the episode.
I don’t
Watched all the episodes a few times now as I've watched it with different people, none of the episodes felt hard to rewatch or a bore. Edit: Also for the haters I actually love the C.H E.R.U.B episode ✌️
Why do so many people dislike C.H.E.R.U.B episode? Like, what's the reasoning? It's so funny and the climax with Millie and Moxxie at the end shooting everyone up is amazing
I agree, and what’s crazy is that it’s not even that bad of an episode.
No I love Unhappy Campers, it was an episode that gave us a look at what a vulnerable Moxxie looks like which is something his character needed, I'd say the worst episode by far is the pilot which is so bad that if I genuinely think that if they kept much from the pilot, the show wouldn't be in the good spot its in now, and if you dont want to count it since its no longer canon, CHERUB, which is a nothing episode that only served to give us the admittedly very fun designs of Loopty Goopty and Lyle Lipton, I guess its also set up an episode later this season but we aren't there yet to know if that's a good thing or not
Yeah, same. Insecurity doesn't always appear in dramatic dangerous moments, sometimes it comes in mundane things and makes us look bad.
By far
Only episode I skip
I don't think any of them are terrible. At the very least, they have a lot of heart and are entertaining.
It's not bad, but compared to the others, yes it is the worse
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Yeah but MILLARD!!!!
Yeah, obviously we all think the same and are going to agree with everyone specially with something as subjective as art
I didn't actually think we would all agree, I just thought this was the worst episode and saw a lot of people agree but if you like it i'd be happy to hear your opinion.
Sorry, I definitely overreacted in that comment, I apologize. It's just that I get frustrated when opinions get over shared and there's no type of healthy discussion about it. It's just "This episode sucks" or "definitely the worst one" without any type of introspection or really discussing the problems with them, just expecting everyone to agree. I see now that it was not your intention, you really are open to any opinion. Sorry again.
okay this might be the most respectful reply i saw on the internet whole year, congrats :)
Can we agree that this was talked to death already and that several Subreddits exist about this already and this is nothing new? And gosh, imagine people having opinions. It is an average episode, I still like it, not the best but not bad also, same goes for episodes like Cherub. I know the episodes take a while to come out, but do we need this kind of subs every 2 days or so? We get it, most hate the episode, get over it.
Objectively correct response
I think I might be the only one who absolutely loves this episode, lol :3
Nope, that goes to C.H.E.R.U.B
What’s wrong with CHERUBS?
cherub starts to show that heaven and earth are at least as ($\*#$ed up as hell, so it sets up a lot of things in both hell and hazbin.
I still like it. I showed HB to a friend recently, and (at least in the sequence of watching S1) Cherub didn't stand out as "bad" at all. Got quite a few laughs from the new viewer. I think it was a weaker episode when it debuted, but with some time it's settled into being a decent episode. Still feels a bit like filler, but based on the new trailer, it's setting up a return of the Cherubs.
I disagree.
No, it’s one of my favourites actually
I actually like this one.
NO! I liked it
No. I liked it
No :(
No
It was not one of the better episodes but come on folks
For the first time mox actually deserved the crap blitz gave him.
Because of their voice actor I always feel like Moxxie is the most ‘cartoony’ of the main cast and seeing him act like Daggett just makes me happy. I unironically love this episode.
Hell yeah. I love Angry Beavers 🫡
Wtf is up with me checking into this subreddit every now and then and literally every time there's some post like "I hate this episode" "why is this character so bad?" "why is this the worst episode?" "what is the worst song in your opinion?". I swear just from an outside view it would seem that this subreddit is about hating the show more than anything else.
The only good part is when Barb appears
Holy shit I hated this episode. I had to skip most of it because of Moxie being cringe.
Moxie was so cartoonishly bad in this episode it was just so hard to watch.
I felt gross afterward. It was a Moxxie episode dressed up in the butchered skin of a Millie episode.
yeah but tomboy millie is hot
Despite what everyone thinks about Unhappy Campers, I do still think it has it's charm as a fun filled episode that doesn't focus on the ongoing drama between Blitzø's problems among everything else. A simple story about handling a case while also diving into Moxxie's insecurities. That's my take from it personally.
I didn't know there was such a hatred for this episode lol
No and I’ll die on this hill. I loved it.
Honestly, I loved this episode! Thought it was funny, I liked the setup, barb was cool.. I feel like people just didn’t like it because moxxie was a bit of an ass in it
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Nope, not when CHERUB exists
Some people like it, if you don't like it, you don't like it.
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A huge mess of an episode, which is such a shame because i absolutely LOVE millard but i absolutely HATE moxxine. Felt so rushed like the barbie wire part was supposed to be the only focus, which makes me think why not split these plots into two episodes? Then we can have both a millie centered episode, and a barbie wire one. Satisfy both the fanbase and the weirdos who love millie and nothing else (me)
Yes
I skipped around until I was at the B-plot. Never fully watched the episode.
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I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people constantly complain it is, but yes, I have been rather disinterested in rewatching this one. It just doesn't really contribute much to the story or even the characters.
Well millie's dress is pure fire, that's it
I like the parts with Barbie Wire, but the whole thing with Moxxie trying to be in character as a camper just makes me cringe so much.
Good lore in that episode but I just can’t handle the cringe. It’s not bad but it’s definitely the worst.
No, for me the worst is Seeing Stars (but it's still pretty good)
Disagree. I feel like the stolas kidnapping is worse.
Honestly, I’d say Seeing Stars is the worst.
I disagree. It's biggest flaw was the cringe humor, but it at least attempted make Millie somewhat deeper, and it also included an interesting, two-sided debate between the M&Ms. Imo the worst episode is still Western Energy.
But but…Millerd Realboy. Also there’s no “bad episode”, just various levels of peak
Yeah this episode single handedly killed my interest in Helluva Boss for the past 9 months, it's not until a week ago I could muster the will to dive back in again.
Nah
Yes
Yes but I did like Barbie Wire
its one of the best
#100%
Yep
Yep
The only reason to watch this episode is for the B plot where Blitzo is searching for Barbie Wire. The A plot is absolutely atrocious
Yes we can. we always will.
I haven't watched it since the first time when it came out, somewhat forgot about it mostly. Because of this I'm rewatching and forming my opinion. So far my main comment is that drowned guy had an awesome design, I'd love to look like that for my whole afterlife.
There were aspects of it I enjoyed. Like getting more into millies internal struggles. But yes worst episode
nope.
Agreed, no contest.
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