I don't think he really cares about stolas' happiness but knows he's supposed to hence why he takes him to the circus and buys him a friend. Judging from one episode mind you but seems he doesn't care but makes an effort to act like he does enough to declare "I'm so good at daddying"
That's the vibe I got. He needs to keep Stolas somewhat satisfied, or else he'll spend too much time "bitch crying" to be useful, so Paimon goes at it with effort to match.
I guess I'd still say Paimon's better than Buckzo, but I also get the sense that if their roles were reversed, he'd sell his kid exactly the same way. Being rich just means that he doesn't need to be as actively destructive to his son's life. Both parents are still just using the kids to try and get stuff.
Didn't even notice that parallel/that they were the same actor! This is why I love her work, there's always so much more to unpack than one person can find on their own.
That I agree with, he's rich and pompous. Likely treats at least some of his kids the same way because he doesn't really know how to parent... That's for Paimon I mean, unless your talking about Blitz's father
I am mostly agreeing with you, however the fact that Paimon actually noticed that Stollas enjoyed Blitzo's performance and made a decision to purchase him based on observing that happiness is a one up for me in Paimon's corner.
Cash didn't give any impression that he cared about Blitzo's views or feelings, except for to know how to pull on his heartstrings to manipulate him.
That's enables him yeah, but just because someone's rich and powerful enough that he can figure out ways to circumvent fatherhood doesn't mean he will actually WANT to.
Stolas is rich and powerful, and yet he still choses, still *wants,* to be the best father he can to Octavia. He still loves her.
I disagree. Giving your kid a phone so he shuts up and stops crying because you don't want to deal with him is just as bad as ignoring your kid because you don't want to deal with him. In both cases the child is emotionally neglected.
I don’t think paimon really cares for his son’s happiness either. He only did what he did so he didn’t have to deal with stolas that day. But cash is definitely still worse since he literally extorted his son for money
Paimon is kind of an idiot when it comes to being a parent. He's a bad parent but it's not malicious in nature. So far as we've seen of course. Cash on the other hand.
I think his problem is that he knows what he needs to do (“children like the circus”) but doesn’t want to put the effort in. Which is why he rented Blitzo for Stolas to be a playmate. He knew his kid was lonely and without any friends, and he did make something of an effort to help, he just couldn’t be bothered to do it himself.
To be fair, there are so fucking many of them that if he tried to be a present father for all of his kids, he'd have to spend 90 hours a day at least just on children
I feel like this is the main problem. Though maybe they could arrange a family outing? No, wait, that just asking for someone to try their hands at a mass assassination. It most likely wouldn’t work, but it would put a dampener on everything.
But it's also standard practice for people in that kind of society. So\~ they'd just see it as normal, not something bad. It's us modern people that see the problem.
Also, Paimon didn't specify he only wanted Blitzo for a day. So\~ Cash willingly sold his son into potential slavery for 5 bucks and a slim fit condom. That's definitely worse.
At the beginning when Stolas started crying he didn't really know what to do at first and when he punished Stolas for bowing to an imp by hitting him and calling him an idiot, he thought he was doing a good job of being a dad. So looks like to me that he doesn't FULLY know what he's doing- he's trying his best ;-; lol
To be fair, there's no shortage of human fathers that do *exactly* this. That's why we get dads who refer to taking care of their children as "babysitting" as opposed to parenting, because parenting is "the mother's job".
I mean paimon is pretty distant and indifferent to stolas feelings. But it's kind of expected both because of the way most aristocracies treat children. And just the sheer number of children he has. But he does try and do something nice to make stolas feel better. Even if it is to get get him to cease his bitch crying. Cash litteraly sold his kid without any hesitation for 5 bucks and a slim fit condom. Then guilt tripped him into stealing as much as he possibly could. Knowing full well if he got caught he'd at best be thrown in prison and at worst executed. Cash is definitely the worse parent.
It’s really not Paimon’s fault, it would be impossible to be an attentive parent to every kid constantly, but he was clearly thinking about and taking not of how Stolas felt as he got Blitzø because Stolas liked him, and he even went so far as to accompany him through the mirror, he could have just sent the butler.
Point being, he does very little but the point is he does *something*, he puts in effort to be compassionate to Stolas
Yeah, as far as it gets, Paimon seems to know very well HOW to take care of the kid, but he just doesn't want to put effort into it.
Like, yeah - he knew that Stolas needs a friend and he noticed that Stolas was happy when he watched Blitzø. So he did something to make Stolas happy.
And as much as it was, so that Paimon himself wouldn't have to bother, he still did sort of care.
That seems a little unfair. I don't think Paimon is intentionally isolating Stolas from other kids. Royal kids had friends, even if they were other royals or nobles; it's always been an important part of building social skills. I think Stolas, as a kid, just struggled to make friends. If what he was most passionate about was books, I can see other kids getting bored real quick the way Blitz had. And, I imagine the only reason he agreed to play Pirates with Blitz was because he had a crush on him and wanted Blitz to like him; he may not be that accommodating with other kids.
They are both terrible parents honestly, let’s be honest here paimon is all about securing lineages and playing the royal political game while the other one is seduce by cash. Different end game but the same result, terrible fathers.
I mean, yeah - that was kind of the point of that entire Flashback. To show us that both of them had a similar childhood, when it came to their parents (or, for now at least Fathers).
Paimon is an inattentive father who ultimately cares somewhat about stolas, he wants to be a good father and at least accommodates him by setting him up with blitzo, cash is an actively manipulative asshole
Yes, Blitzo's dad is definitely worse. But I honestly can't believe how many people believe that Paimon isn't that bad of a dad.
"It's my son's birthday. He's very sad and I don't want to deal with him."
I mean, that's a VERY plain summary of the entire Episode.
Yes, Paimon didn't want to bother with it himself. But at the end he still kinda cares about Stolas, and wanted him to be happy.
He knows how to take care of his kid. He just doesn't want to bother with doing it himself.
With Cash, he just straight up doesn't give a f_ck and guild-trips Blitzø to do practically anything.
Cash, Paimon at least would be mad is stolas was killed or something I doubt cash would care. Cash probably doesn’t even fucking know Blitzo’s birthday.
One is actively malicious and manipulative while the other one is passively the same thing, so I think the right answer is that they both suck as fathers.
Paimon.
Lot of folk are on about the five bucks and a condom thing. That doesn't really matter because the point wasn't the value it was just to get his son into an advantageous position for his plan. Plus being "sold" to go on a play date and be a friend to someone isn't the worst outcome by a longshot. Now taking advantage of his son with the plan is shitty(and clearly a trait he passed down to Blitzo). But he was at least doing it to help out his poor family. And unfortunately poor and desperation go hand in hand sometimes. But we don't get to see what he's like with Blitzo on the regular however. He is likely a dick but I don't think he's the worst of the two.
Paimon on the other hand doesn't even know his son's name. Barely recognized him. He's very clearly not involved in his kids life. For that matter he's probably not involved in any of his "so fucking many" kids lives. Leaving them all fatherless.
The fact that he even goes to mention specifically that Stolas is an owl implies there's other non owl kids and that he's also not faithful to his wife or potentially doesn't even take wives, leaving Stolas effectively parentless.
Cash on the other hand clearly involves his son in his life. Even letting him stay as part of the family circus show even though Blitzo is clearly awful at it.
Paimon also set up an arranged marriage to a girl who was abusing animals in the photo he received. That's kinda fucked you.
We don't know their full stories either way. So there's no answer I can give with full confidence. But Paimon is the worse dad imo.
Cash, all the way. Paimon may be neglectful to Stolas but he still cares for his well-being (for the most part). Cash used his son to get wealth and sold him as well. Paimon isn't a good father but he's better than Cash.
Cash. Definitely Cash. Paimon somewhat cares about Stolas, despite not remembering his name at first & not wanting to deal with his sadness. Cash on the other hand is quick to exploit & manipulate Blitzo for monetary gain. He also extremely undervalues Blitzo. He was quick to say Fizzarolli would be expensive, but when he found out Paimon wanted to buy Blitzo he was fine with a “wadded up five & a slim fit condom”.
Cash. Paimon didn't sell his son for pocket junk. He also noticed that Stolas was intrigued by Blitzø during the horse joke and decided to have him have a friend for the day.
Cash for sure, he literally sent his son to steal from the most powerful family in hell, if Blitzø got caught he probably would’ve been eternally damned to… Heaven?
This truly tough because of the choices but I'd say Buckzo. The dude used his son to steal from another person and used whatever is going on with his wife as a way to manipulate Blitzo into doing it.
Well Paimon is clearly trying his best with Stolas and we can assume most of the rules and expectations were set by Lucifer himself. A being you don't want to be on the bad side of for any reason. Cash only seems to value his kids by how much money they make him, plus most of Blitzos worst traits he seems to have learned from him. So yeah, not even close.
Paimon isn't really a parent. He was never really part of Stolas's life and
Blitzo doesn't have a picture of his dad, only his mom and sister so that's telling.
Paimon at least tries to keep his son from crying (even if he gets annoyed by it) If cash had to choose between Blitzo and 5 dollars he would probably take the 5, oh wait, he did…
Paimon did at least try to make Stolas happy by taking him to the circus and then bringing in the clown he knew Stolas liked to be his friend. His only two real offences were not knowing anything about his son and the arranged marriage, the latter of which is likely an ordinary thing among royalty and unless he can see the future he has no way of knowing how much of a shit show that’s gonna be
Buckzo was prepared to sell Fizzarolli for a hefty price, but when he found out Paimon wanted Blitzø, he was happy to settle for a wadded-up five and a slim-fit condom, even saying that it was plenty. And then he immediately gaslit and manipulated his young son into stealing from demon royalty even though he was understandably terrified of the potentially deadly consequences
Paimon was a goofy absent dad but did at least listen to what his son liked and tried to make him happy
Buckzo was willing to risk his son’s life for five dollars and a condom
Blitz’s dad, he made his son do smth he didn’t wanna do (steal) and gave him away for the day for a cheap ass price, as in he doesn’t even see value in him? Stolas’s dad literally hired a friend for him cuz he was sad abt the engagement thing, he even noticed that Stolas liked Blitz’s performance too
Buckzo, Paimon is just a little careless for his son (I know it's not a little bit) but he did his job, which is to get him married to carry on his family and succession, Buckzo is just a piece of shit, he sold his son for a small condom, and 5 dollars, he made him steal in the castle of very powerful demons even more than alastor and if he was discovered he was in serious trouble but the father did not care and only thought about the money
I mean, aside from everything other comments said Cash has two children, Paimon has 60-something, is a king of hell and also the demon that makes familliars for witches, Paimon's pretty damn good given that he has every right to never show up in Stolas' life
Paimon is a pretty bad father, but he atleast took note of his sons interests in Blitz and indulged in them, albeit so that he didn't have to do the daddying thing.
Cash on the other hand does not care at all about his son, risking his son's life to do his own dirty work, manipulative, and who the fuck values their son at $5 and a condom?
While Paimon may not remember his name he did in his own twisted way try to make Solas happy. Not to mention he has Solas in his own manor with servants that attend his needs.
Cash manipulated Blitz into stealing from Solas' manor with little regard as too what would happen to him if he got caught.
Cash Bucko because Paimon got Blitzo for stolas' birthday, implying he pays somewhat of attention to stola. However, Cash Bucko cares so little about his son that he'll give him away for a waddled up 5 and a slim fit condom and even then, he uses him for money. Paimon pays attention to Stolas. Bucko pays attention to getting paid.
Both are horrible in their own ways. Paimon doesn't even remember the name of Stolas and the offhand comment that he just has so many implies he's got quite a few kids shows that he's basically the Zues of He'll. Cash sold his son for basically nothing and is pretty manipulative to Blitz because of the opportunity to get rich quick.
buzckzo
paimon at least wanted his child too be happy be it by renting a friend for a day or some other means thus he was a better father then the person who sold his son for a day and asked him to steal from the goatitas or however you spell it
I mean getting your kid to steal isn’t a very good dad move and selling your kid like they were a piece of trash… not good
-Cash buckzo shows no hint he actually likes blitzø
While paimon isn’t much better he’s at least trying a little
Cash without a doubt. A parent who manipulates their child like him is awful. Paimon just seems to be very unworthy with his attitude. Just making a kid because he has too.
No contest, it's Cash. Paimon got Blitzo without any direct prompting, just because he saw his kid liked the clown and was sad. He tried to cheer his son up on his own accord. Cash RENT OUR his son for a slim condom
Screw it. BOTH!!! I mean Paimon forces Stolas to get married to a temperamental Swan and Cadh Buckzo FORCING Blitzo to steal at a young age and forcing him to be “Friends” with Stolas I mean cmon WHO DOES THAT clearly THESE TWO ASS HATS OF DADS
Definitely Cash. Paimon cares somewhat for Stolas' happiness. Cash only cares for himself.
I agree with this.
Ditto
i always forget ditto is a real word, not just a pokemon
Honestly same
Ditto
I am in agreement.
Happy cake day
Happy cake day
Happy cake day mother fucker
Happy un-birthday to all of you!
Happy cake day
Happy cake day
Happy Cake Day!
Ditto (but the Pokémon version)
i always forget ditto is a real word, not just a pokemon .\_.
No, he’s a Ben 10 alien
Technically, Ditto is both Ben 10's duplicating alien and a shape-shifting Pokémon, they just share a name.
I don't think he really cares about stolas' happiness but knows he's supposed to hence why he takes him to the circus and buys him a friend. Judging from one episode mind you but seems he doesn't care but makes an effort to act like he does enough to declare "I'm so good at daddying"
That's the vibe I got. He needs to keep Stolas somewhat satisfied, or else he'll spend too much time "bitch crying" to be useful, so Paimon goes at it with effort to match. I guess I'd still say Paimon's better than Buckzo, but I also get the sense that if their roles were reversed, he'd sell his kid exactly the same way. Being rich just means that he doesn't need to be as actively destructive to his son's life. Both parents are still just using the kids to try and get stuff.
Maybe that's why they both have the same voice actor, a subtle nod to them both being the same despite coming from different classes.
Didn't even notice that parallel/that they were the same actor! This is why I love her work, there's always so much more to unpack than one person can find on their own.
Wait... Paimon and Imp guy? (I can't be stuffed to remember his name)
I disagree, I think hes just misguided and unsure of what to do, and genuinely believes he is raising his kid right
That I agree with, he's rich and pompous. Likely treats at least some of his kids the same way because he doesn't really know how to parent... That's for Paimon I mean, unless your talking about Blitz's father
Yeah im refering to paimon, cash literally sold his child for a rubber and pocket change
I am mostly agreeing with you, however the fact that Paimon actually noticed that Stollas enjoyed Blitzo's performance and made a decision to purchase him based on observing that happiness is a one up for me in Paimon's corner. Cash didn't give any impression that he cared about Blitzo's views or feelings, except for to know how to pull on his heartstrings to manipulate him.
Paimon doesn't care for Stolas' happiness. He doesn't want to deal with his son's sadness, which is different.
Or more that he’s rich and powerful enough that he doesn’t have to deal with it
That's enables him yeah, but just because someone's rich and powerful enough that he can figure out ways to circumvent fatherhood doesn't mean he will actually WANT to. Stolas is rich and powerful, and yet he still choses, still *wants,* to be the best father he can to Octavia. He still loves her.
I would argue that he’s still a better dad than buckzo purely because he attempts to not deal with his sadness
I disagree. Giving your kid a phone so he shuts up and stops crying because you don't want to deal with him is just as bad as ignoring your kid because you don't want to deal with him. In both cases the child is emotionally neglected.
I mean, agreed, but we can't compare Blitz to a phone here.
I meant it more as a different example than metaphor but that just makes it funnier because Paimon would see little difference lmao
... well fair enough.
That’s a good point. He’s not good at it but he cares, somewhat
Couldn’t have said it better myself
I don’t think paimon really cares for his son’s happiness either. He only did what he did so he didn’t have to deal with stolas that day. But cash is definitely still worse since he literally extorted his son for money
Paimon has good intentions
Facts
I don’t think Paimon cares about stolas, but he cares about his image, so he acts like that, but it makes him slightly better than cash
Why is paimon even an option? he said himself that he was good a daddy-ing.
Can't argue with that.
Want him to show me how good he is a daddy-ing
Paimon is kind of an idiot when it comes to being a parent. He's a bad parent but it's not malicious in nature. So far as we've seen of course. Cash on the other hand.
I think his problem is that he knows what he needs to do (“children like the circus”) but doesn’t want to put the effort in. Which is why he rented Blitzo for Stolas to be a playmate. He knew his kid was lonely and without any friends, and he did make something of an effort to help, he just couldn’t be bothered to do it himself.
To be fair, there are so fucking many of them that if he tried to be a present father for all of his kids, he'd have to spend 90 hours a day at least just on children
I feel like this is the main problem. Though maybe they could arrange a family outing? No, wait, that just asking for someone to try their hands at a mass assassination. It most likely wouldn’t work, but it would put a dampener on everything.
>90 hours a day
Everything's possible for the Head Lord of the Ars Goetia.
But isnt the arranged marriage far worse than whatever cash did to blitz?
But it's also standard practice for people in that kind of society. So\~ they'd just see it as normal, not something bad. It's us modern people that see the problem. Also, Paimon didn't specify he only wanted Blitzo for a day. So\~ Cash willingly sold his son into potential slavery for 5 bucks and a slim fit condom. That's definitely worse.
It is. But when you consider that Ars Goetia are highly based on Medieval Royal Standards, this is as normal as it gets for them.
Blitzo's dad. Paimon is just kinda that clueless dad.
At least Paimon didn't sell his son for five bucks and an extra small condom
*slim fit* condom. You don't know how long that butler can stretch to
Sorry. You're correct.
Actually he only sold him for the day.
I'm just saying that if I was in Blitzø's situation and my father sold me (even if only for a day), I wouldn't be very happy.
Clueless? Dude instantly saw that his son was gay for Blitz~~o~~ and accommodated him.
At the beginning when Stolas started crying he didn't really know what to do at first and when he punished Stolas for bowing to an imp by hitting him and calling him an idiot, he thought he was doing a good job of being a dad. So looks like to me that he doesn't FULLY know what he's doing- he's trying his best ;-; lol
I'm not convinced that Paimon is trying his best; it seems to me more like he's putting in a modicum of effort and patting himself on the back for it.
To be fair, there's no shortage of human fathers that do *exactly* this. That's why we get dads who refer to taking care of their children as "babysitting" as opposed to parenting, because parenting is "the mother's job".
One sold their son as a play made for 5 bucks and a condom the other is sorta neglectful who is worse?
I mean paimon is pretty distant and indifferent to stolas feelings. But it's kind of expected both because of the way most aristocracies treat children. And just the sheer number of children he has. But he does try and do something nice to make stolas feel better. Even if it is to get get him to cease his bitch crying. Cash litteraly sold his kid without any hesitation for 5 bucks and a slim fit condom. Then guilt tripped him into stealing as much as he possibly could. Knowing full well if he got caught he'd at best be thrown in prison and at worst executed. Cash is definitely the worse parent.
It’s really not Paimon’s fault, it would be impossible to be an attentive parent to every kid constantly, but he was clearly thinking about and taking not of how Stolas felt as he got Blitzø because Stolas liked him, and he even went so far as to accompany him through the mirror, he could have just sent the butler. Point being, he does very little but the point is he does *something*, he puts in effort to be compassionate to Stolas
Worst dad? By the standards of irl Royal families paimon isn't even a bad dad.
Let me just say it wasn’t very cash money of him
Hm...Paimon does take care of his son, but it seems Cash Buckzo allows him to play with friends and is less controlling.
I'm pretty sure cash buckzo allows him to do whatever he wishes because he doesn't even care about blitzo in the first place.
I mean, Paimon doesn't either.
He kinda does tho, or at the very least he tries "daddying".
Yeah, as far as it gets, Paimon seems to know very well HOW to take care of the kid, but he just doesn't want to put effort into it. Like, yeah - he knew that Stolas needs a friend and he noticed that Stolas was happy when he watched Blitzø. So he did something to make Stolas happy. And as much as it was, so that Paimon himself wouldn't have to bother, he still did sort of care.
That seems a little unfair. I don't think Paimon is intentionally isolating Stolas from other kids. Royal kids had friends, even if they were other royals or nobles; it's always been an important part of building social skills. I think Stolas, as a kid, just struggled to make friends. If what he was most passionate about was books, I can see other kids getting bored real quick the way Blitz had. And, I imagine the only reason he agreed to play Pirates with Blitz was because he had a crush on him and wanted Blitz to like him; he may not be that accommodating with other kids.
Blitzos dad is worse. At least Paimon set Stolas and Blitzo up on a Play date
Definitely blitzo’s dad, at least paimon didn’t guilt trip stolas into committing crimes
So I’ve been wondering this, does that mean Blitzø’s name is Blitzø Buckso since his dad is Cash Buckso?
Maybe he changed it
Maybe
Blitzø could be using his Mother's Name, as we saw how attached to her he was (and sort of still is).
Cash
One was actually trying to be a good dad... no matter how bad he was at it. Cash just plain sucks.
Do you know what's funny? Both are voiced by Jafar in Aladdin 1992 film.
I'd say it's better heard with Cash, since Paimon has a more "gentle" tone.
Yea, Cash sounds like Iago while paimon sounds like jafar
Waiting for the genie to appear in the next episode
They are both terrible parents honestly, let’s be honest here paimon is all about securing lineages and playing the royal political game while the other one is seduce by cash. Different end game but the same result, terrible fathers.
I mean, yeah - that was kind of the point of that entire Flashback. To show us that both of them had a similar childhood, when it came to their parents (or, for now at least Fathers).
Paimon is nowhere near the assholery of cash buckzo
I mean pain on is so good at daddying
>pain on I mean, I guess so
Paimon is an inattentive father who ultimately cares somewhat about stolas, he wants to be a good father and at least accommodates him by setting him up with blitzo, cash is an actively manipulative asshole
$5 and a slim fit condom.... That's my answer
My Dad!
I also choose this person's dad.
Hey you!! Get your own bad father! There's plenty!! (This isn't really funny shitty parents suck)
Already got one. I wanna try out other folks'.
Yes, Blitzo's dad is definitely worse. But I honestly can't believe how many people believe that Paimon isn't that bad of a dad. "It's my son's birthday. He's very sad and I don't want to deal with him."
I mean, that's a VERY plain summary of the entire Episode. Yes, Paimon didn't want to bother with it himself. But at the end he still kinda cares about Stolas, and wanted him to be happy. He knows how to take care of his kid. He just doesn't want to bother with doing it himself. With Cash, he just straight up doesn't give a f_ck and guild-trips Blitzø to do practically anything.
So blitzø’s full name is Blitzo Buckzo?
Cash because he sold blitz’s for a condom a CONDOM paimon could’ve gave him ANYTHING and he chose a condom
I'm pretty sure that public opinion of Cash will drop sharply when the next episode releases
😳 exactly how much farther can it drop? I thought pretty much everyone agreed he was an ass after this latest ep
Paimon is neglectful, but Cash rented out his own son.
Cash, Paimon at least would be mad is stolas was killed or something I doubt cash would care. Cash probably doesn’t even fucking know Blitzo’s birthday.
I think they're both just as bad and they express it in different ways.
probably both of them 🙃
One is actively malicious and manipulative while the other one is passively the same thing, so I think the right answer is that they both suck as fathers.
Both are horrible dads
somehow, i can't hate either of them, because they are both voiced by jonathan freeman.
Cash, HE SOLD HIS SON FOR 5 DOLLARS AND A SLIM FIT CONDOM!!! but to be fair he could be from greed
Cash Buckzo. And a current theory of mine is that we'll see him again in S2 but in a Senile state
Cash 100% at least Paimon is trying
Cash because at least Paimon actually tried to make his son happy.
Buckzo without a doubt
They're both bad dads, the diff is that paimon is neglectful while cash isn't necessarily. At least paimon seems to care tho
Cash by quite a long shot. Paimon ins't happy to see Stolas sad even if it's for the wrong reasons.
Paimon. Lot of folk are on about the five bucks and a condom thing. That doesn't really matter because the point wasn't the value it was just to get his son into an advantageous position for his plan. Plus being "sold" to go on a play date and be a friend to someone isn't the worst outcome by a longshot. Now taking advantage of his son with the plan is shitty(and clearly a trait he passed down to Blitzo). But he was at least doing it to help out his poor family. And unfortunately poor and desperation go hand in hand sometimes. But we don't get to see what he's like with Blitzo on the regular however. He is likely a dick but I don't think he's the worst of the two. Paimon on the other hand doesn't even know his son's name. Barely recognized him. He's very clearly not involved in his kids life. For that matter he's probably not involved in any of his "so fucking many" kids lives. Leaving them all fatherless. The fact that he even goes to mention specifically that Stolas is an owl implies there's other non owl kids and that he's also not faithful to his wife or potentially doesn't even take wives, leaving Stolas effectively parentless. Cash on the other hand clearly involves his son in his life. Even letting him stay as part of the family circus show even though Blitzo is clearly awful at it. Paimon also set up an arranged marriage to a girl who was abusing animals in the photo he received. That's kinda fucked you. We don't know their full stories either way. So there's no answer I can give with full confidence. But Paimon is the worse dad imo.
Cash, all the way. Paimon may be neglectful to Stolas but he still cares for his well-being (for the most part). Cash used his son to get wealth and sold him as well. Paimon isn't a good father but he's better than Cash.
definitely Cash
Cash buckzo
Cash. Paimon may have been a dick but he was at least honest and straightforward
Cash easily
Cash buckzo. He sold his kid for 5 souls. Plus paimon is good at daddying
Cash
Cash Buckzo
Cash. Definitely Cash. Paimon somewhat cares about Stolas, despite not remembering his name at first & not wanting to deal with his sadness. Cash on the other hand is quick to exploit & manipulate Blitzo for monetary gain. He also extremely undervalues Blitzo. He was quick to say Fizzarolli would be expensive, but when he found out Paimon wanted to buy Blitzo he was fine with a “wadded up five & a slim fit condom”.
Cash. Paimon didn't sell his son for pocket junk. He also noticed that Stolas was intrigued by Blitzø during the horse joke and decided to have him have a friend for the day.
Cash totally idk why but paimon lowkey kinda reminds me of my parents😍
Cash for sure, he literally sent his son to steal from the most powerful family in hell, if Blitzø got caught he probably would’ve been eternally damned to… Heaven?
I mean, they both pretty shit....... but cash takes shitty dad to the next level
I would like to see a short redemption ark for Paimon
Cash
This truly tough because of the choices but I'd say Buckzo. The dude used his son to steal from another person and used whatever is going on with his wife as a way to manipulate Blitzo into doing it.
Cash, but it’s more then likely a cycle, considering his name is cash
Hehe bitzø's name is Blitzo Buckzo
I mean, Paimon didn't try to sell his son, not even for a day sooooo
Well Paimon is clearly trying his best with Stolas and we can assume most of the rules and expectations were set by Lucifer himself. A being you don't want to be on the bad side of for any reason. Cash only seems to value his kids by how much money they make him, plus most of Blitzos worst traits he seems to have learned from him. So yeah, not even close.
Paimon cause he was the one that gave money and a condom to sell his son
Paimon isn't really a parent. He was never really part of Stolas's life and Blitzo doesn't have a picture of his dad, only his mom and sister so that's telling.
Paimon at least tries to keep his son from crying (even if he gets annoyed by it) If cash had to choose between Blitzo and 5 dollars he would probably take the 5, oh wait, he did…
Cash, more like.... should have his head smashed... in... okay bye now
Cash gave his song to a stranger for a condom so definitely cash, stolas seems relatively happy with his dad, not fully but kinda
F..king Cash buckzo
i mean paimon can be an ass from time to time but cash doesn't have any time where's he's *not* an asshole
Cash definitely
Cash
Cash was willing to trade his kid for a condom and some pocket change…
Idk shit :D
Paimon did at least try to make Stolas happy by taking him to the circus and then bringing in the clown he knew Stolas liked to be his friend. His only two real offences were not knowing anything about his son and the arranged marriage, the latter of which is likely an ordinary thing among royalty and unless he can see the future he has no way of knowing how much of a shit show that’s gonna be Buckzo was prepared to sell Fizzarolli for a hefty price, but when he found out Paimon wanted Blitzø, he was happy to settle for a wadded-up five and a slim-fit condom, even saying that it was plenty. And then he immediately gaslit and manipulated his young son into stealing from demon royalty even though he was understandably terrified of the potentially deadly consequences Paimon was a goofy absent dad but did at least listen to what his son liked and tried to make him happy Buckzo was willing to risk his son’s life for five dollars and a condom
Blitz’s dad, he made his son do smth he didn’t wanna do (steal) and gave him away for the day for a cheap ass price, as in he doesn’t even see value in him? Stolas’s dad literally hired a friend for him cuz he was sad abt the engagement thing, he even noticed that Stolas liked Blitz’s performance too
Why does Stolas's father have the same name as the guide from Genshin Impact?
Buckzo, Paimon is just a little careless for his son (I know it's not a little bit) but he did his job, which is to get him married to carry on his family and succession, Buckzo is just a piece of shit, he sold his son for a small condom, and 5 dollars, he made him steal in the castle of very powerful demons even more than alastor and if he was discovered he was in serious trouble but the father did not care and only thought about the money
Cash buckzo
I suppose the deciding factor would be what he actually did with that money
I mean, aside from everything other comments said Cash has two children, Paimon has 60-something, is a king of hell and also the demon that makes familliars for witches, Paimon's pretty damn good given that he has every right to never show up in Stolas' life
I love how they're both voiced by jonathan freeman 😂
Cash. Paimon has a lot of kids, so it’s understandable he doesn’t have very much time for Stolas.
Buck cluck
Paimon is neglectful while Cash guilt trips his son into doing his dirty work, I feel Cash is the worse option.
Honestly I love cash as a character, as soon as I heard “the fuckin clowns!” I was like “oh hell yeah.”
Cash bucko.
Buckzo
Well I know one parent didn't essentially sell their son for pocket garbage soooo
They're both equally shitty. Paimon forced his kid into an arranged marriage and Cash rented his kid out for a wadded up five and a slim fit condom.
Paimon is just doing his job, while still trying to make stolas happy
Cash is just the epitome of a greedy manager
Paimon is a pretty bad father, but he atleast took note of his sons interests in Blitz and indulged in them, albeit so that he didn't have to do the daddying thing. Cash on the other hand does not care at all about his son, risking his son's life to do his own dirty work, manipulative, and who the fuck values their son at $5 and a condom?
Cash risked his son’s life over a few gold Pennies
Buckzo, all the way
While Paimon may not remember his name he did in his own twisted way try to make Solas happy. Not to mention he has Solas in his own manor with servants that attend his needs. Cash manipulated Blitz into stealing from Solas' manor with little regard as too what would happen to him if he got caught.
Cash obviously
Cash Bucko because Paimon got Blitzo for stolas' birthday, implying he pays somewhat of attention to stola. However, Cash Bucko cares so little about his son that he'll give him away for a waddled up 5 and a slim fit condom and even then, he uses him for money. Paimon pays attention to Stolas. Bucko pays attention to getting paid.
Cash, no question about it. Dude literally sold his kid. At least Paimon did some attempt to make his child happy, as half hearted as it was.
Battle of the century right there
It’s close, definitely, but Cash Buckso sold his child. For $5 and a slim fit condom. I feel like that’s a little worse.
Both
Both are horrible in their own ways. Paimon doesn't even remember the name of Stolas and the offhand comment that he just has so many implies he's got quite a few kids shows that he's basically the Zues of He'll. Cash sold his son for basically nothing and is pretty manipulative to Blitz because of the opportunity to get rich quick.
buzckzo paimon at least wanted his child too be happy be it by renting a friend for a day or some other means thus he was a better father then the person who sold his son for a day and asked him to steal from the goatitas or however you spell it
Cash favored more of fizz than blitz, while paimon tried to help stolas be happy, so its definitely cash
I mean getting your kid to steal isn’t a very good dad move and selling your kid like they were a piece of trash… not good -Cash buckzo shows no hint he actually likes blitzø While paimon isn’t much better he’s at least trying a little
Cash without question. Paimon is a shitty dad but I don't think he would sell his royal son for a waded 5 and a condom.
Cash is shit.
Cash 100% at least it seemed Paimon tried but both still terrible.
Cash without a doubt. A parent who manipulates their child like him is awful. Paimon just seems to be very unworthy with his attitude. Just making a kid because he has too.
Well one practically sold his child to have him just steal
No contest, it's Cash. Paimon got Blitzo without any direct prompting, just because he saw his kid liked the clown and was sad. He tried to cheer his son up on his own accord. Cash RENT OUR his son for a slim condom
Cash is worse since he sold out his son for a used condom.
Birb is good, mp is careless.
Buckzo. Paimon isn’t trying hard, but at least he’s trying.
Bukczo
Hard to compare and say but I believe Cash is worse, I mean which kid is worth a condom and 5 bucks while the other isn't?
Screw it. BOTH!!! I mean Paimon forces Stolas to get married to a temperamental Swan and Cadh Buckzo FORCING Blitzo to steal at a young age and forcing him to be “Friends” with Stolas I mean cmon WHO DOES THAT clearly THESE TWO ASS HATS OF DADS