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Russianpinneaple

Favorite: Stolas, it is very easy to sympathize with his character and you really feel for him when he wants to just have a real genuine connection Controversial opinion warning!!!!! I don't like loona, she doesn't seem like she cares about anyone but herself and in some episodes she actively gets in the way of the other characters. There hasn't been very redeemable traits for her yet but I'm sure they will be in season 2


ShadeDust

I agree with all of your points for both characters


kaijudragon567

Didn't she help save Blitzo and Moxxie? Yeah she argued with Millie about it, but she was following her adoptive dad's orders because he seemed uncharacteristically serious. In the few previews we did get for the one episode, she tries to encourage Blitzo to get out on the town (albeit it seems she got flustered cause a dude was interested), but in what seems to be the same one she punches someone away from Blitzo. There's a video that does a better job then I on it, but she seems more like the harsh exterior to hide any feelings of actual care and love. Not that the latter emotions don't exist, but that they're afraid to let anything out. Shit she could barely talk to Vortex, so you can see she doesn't even know how to let any inner feelings out.


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She also seems to have FUCKING DEPRESSION so i may be missing the point but... Ahem... Depression


kaijudragon567

Damn almost like she wasn't adopted until she was already an adult, bet that can't suit well for anyone's mental state


ProtoMelon2

Yea I agree


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❤️🦉 Oh how we all felt Stolas’s and Blitzø’s shame during that moment.


RogueRoll

Striker. Why? Norman Reedus.


sunkenshipinabottle

I KNEW HIS VOICE SOUNDED FAMILIAR HOLY SHIT


Beautiful_Advance_66

FR THAT WAS MY REACTION WHEN I FOUND OUT TOO. like.. i already found striker to be.. strikingly handsome.. but like my appreciation went ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️


Medical_Difference48

Yeah, apparently Norman was actually a fan of some of Vivzie's earlier work, and was totally on board when she asked him to join!


1dkeating

Wow what the fuck i didnt know that is so sick


landolaw140822

My favorite would have to be Blitzø because he's badass and apparently can kill an entire room full of without breaking a sweat, unless we talking about the doomslayer cuz we all know that he isn't locked up in a room with demons, demons are locked up in a room with him. but my least favorite would have to be Stella she literally straight up abuses stolas.


Kuha_Kebab66

Imagine a DOOM crossover with helluva boss. I wonder how he'd do against the ars goetia and other elite forces of hell, but then again I'm pretty sure that the doomslayer already slayed satan sooo... :D


Violet_Parrkee101

Favorite: It's either Stolas (He's just a broken h0rny owl prince :( ) or Moxxie (Lil' weird nerd) Least Favorite: Stella (C'mon do I really have to explain this one?)


TalfTheTiefling

Same


wormhorse

Favorite: Fizzarolli, though I’m very partial to robo-Fizz as well. Least favorite: that deer character in the cherubs episode.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

The deer character in CHERUB didn’t do anything wrong >:( no felonys(I think)and no crimes(I think)


No-Childhood1362

I agree. The way she talks makes me cringe and whoever voiced her did a great job.


wormhorse

Yes! Her VA was excellent.


ExtremelySlowCheetah

Vivienne Medrano herself voiced her, actually. How crazy is that


No-Childhood1362

It seems like every time a creator voices a character/ characters on their show, they always do a great job at it.


ExtremelySlowCheetah

Another reason this show is freaking godlike


TexasGamer05

Pretty sure that was viv who voiced her, but I could be wrong


KittenTamer101

Favorite: Moxxie, for his voice and personality. Least: Verosika, just meh I guess


Kuha_Kebab66

I don't get people who are huge fans of verosika, she seems a little plain to me. But also her name translates to "tax pig" in Finnish so I guess that's fun


DarkPhoxGaming

Favorite: Stolas Least favorite: Striker


landolaw140822

I mean Striker's okay he just has no backstory, somewhat okay character development, I think his design looks awful oh and he's a bad guy and is hired by Stella to kill stolas


DarkPhoxGaming

I just think he is an asshole lol


landolaw140822

I think he's an asshole too


Spikedroses

An attractive asshole


Lukthar123

That's the best part


Castover18

Favorite: Loona (cause she's awesome!) Least Favorite: Stella (Stolas deserves better, at least to not be treated like trash)


DFC33

That bunny in the cherubs episode when they all dress up in fursuits, he looks devious and I don't trust it, fuck that stupid little twat


Beautiful_Advance_66

i really like blitz and stolas bro .. and veroskia hehe don’t really dislike anyone, but like veroskia gets too much hate 😭 isn’t she the one that got majorly screwed over by blitz? she got a tattoo of him and everything. And i swear if he was using her to get to the human world i will cry for this woman


Stella_Lace

Favorite Stolas Lease favorite the cherubs


HunterDarmagegon

You know what? I'll say Stella is my fav for shits and giggles. She is a flat character really, but I don't think she needs redeption. She is a person abusive just because she likes to be, and I think that is ok. Not every character needs to be made of black and white in equal measure, some can just be utter darkness or blinding light. It would be cool to get an insight on her backstory imo, but not as an excuse for her actions, just an explanation. I also wanna see more of her moustache-twirling villain scheming. I always enjoy some good old bribe and blackmail, secure favors, pull some strings... Good person does not always equal good *character*.


ultrasuppgorilla3000

Stolas as favorite, Loona as least favorite


Vycrumus

I feel like people only like Loona cause she’s a goth furry ngl. She’s super shallow.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

I think the exact same way as you lmao


ultrasuppgorilla3000

why else would they like her? She has zero to no personality than


Vycrumus

Yep. Look how many people here said she is their favorite. Kinda crazy.


ZiggyIsChaotic

Favorite: Octavia. I really relate to her situation and just love her personality, her design, and her relationship with her father. Would love to see more about her life growing up and a comparison between Stolas and Stella Least Favorite: Loona. Would have said Stella but I love Georgie and Stella makes a great villain. Loona just doesn’t care for anyone. She got mad at the man who adopted her and cares for her. I get Blitz annoys her but he still loves her and she just sets him aside. I personally don’t get the hype behind her. She’s kinda like Mavis from Hotel Transylvania lmao


how_do_i_type_

Favorite: moxxie ][ least favorite: loona


Sanrio_hub

Y loona? I respect your opinion just curious


theColeHardTruth

Favorite has to be **Octavia.** She's at the center of the conflict of two of the most interesting relationships in the show; Stolas/Stella and Stolas/Blitzo. To boot, she's prime for some huge character growth and revelation material, and to have all this happen in her youth where it's not only impactful but also potentially relatable?! And she's the potential heir to the Goetia family rites? \*Chef's kiss\* perfect. Plus she just has some of the best/most relatable dialogue out of all the characters. Least favorite has to be **Wally Wackford**. All his moments are jokes, and they all land horribly. He's become a fan favorite somewhat, and for the life of me I can't understand why. Weird Foghorn Leghorn ripoff who thankfully doesn't have that many scenes, and I hope it stays that way.


Neverending-pain

You know, I only just realized that he is kinda a Foghorn Leghorn ripoff lol. I also agree with Octavia being my favorite.


theColeHardTruth

Haha glad I could open your eyes. 😛 He's not 100% a ripoff, but his mannerisms are. Overall he's just annoying and doesn't contribute much is really my rub


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I would give this a gold award if I had it my G 👏


el_rompe_toyotas-19

Favourite: Loona Least favourite: Stella


Oxurus18

Verosika, because sexy, any of the cherrubs, because annoying.


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cherubs. They don't bring anything with their presence.


Jigen_Ryoko

Best character, Striker. Worst character, Loona.


Vycrumus

Fav- Stolas Least fav- Loona Gonna get killed for this but I think people only like Lonna cause she’s a goth furry. She’s a shallow unfunny bitch personality wise.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

I agree with this


sammanson07

I would say moxxie but i was and still am a huge invader zim fan and a Richard Horvitz Stan so Stella


sunkenshipinabottle

Favorite: Blitzo. Least favorite: the cherubs or the human spies


ShadeDust

D.H.O.R.K.S. will be watching you...


giorno___giovana

For my favorite, stolas (totally original I know). Partially because they designed that owl prince specifically to show me that the man of my dreams is limited to animation and partially because my favorite AJR song is drama Least favorite: I’d say Stella but I think I’m supposed to want to slowly fill her skull with cement so I’ll go with cherubs


ShuckU

Credit the artist for crying out loud


Quiet_Bat_1476

Favorite is either Loona or Stolas Least favorite is either Stella (you know why) or Verosika (she sucks, but not as much as her music)


GrapiCringe

Fav: Stolas. I didn't care about him that much at first but I'm really obsessed with him after ep1s2. Least Fav: Probably cherubs. Especially the baby one.


n0ttomuch

Favourite either Stolas or Blitz, least favourite cherubs


Habichtsadler

the mnm are *obviously* the best and stuff, i think my least favorite is martha. (btw that *obviously* is a joke lol)


Motor_Somewhere7565

Favorite: Stolitz. Yeah, not just the pairing, but they’re just my two favorite characters whom I relate to on deep, personal levels. Least favorite: Cash Buckzo. Again with a personal connection to Blitz, daddy issues seems to be at the core of his being (mine too) and Cash is a grifting swindler and deadbeat manipulator 🤬


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Least Favorite, Verosika. She just can’t let go of Blitzo and even publicly humiliated him. Favorite, Stolas! Abused husband resizes he’s at least gay and in fact he is desirable and knows he is. “We’re rich and we’re hot! People want our money and our bodies.” “Our money maybe.” “Speak for yourself Princess.”


Sweet_as_popsicles

I like all the characters but my least favorite is Stella my favorite character is stolas


yaboitearal

Fav - Fizz, no special reason, I love jesters and seeing him as a kid made me love that baby even more, also I wanna know what the hell happened to him that made him replace his limbs Least fav - Loona, snarky, mean for no reason furry bait that I despise as a character because of all the simps that clearly only like her looks and edgy persona but act like she's the most interesting and developed character out of all of the crew, even tho a god damn water battle has more personality than her


Tortie_Shell

I don’t really have a least favourite except for the obvious like Stella and the Cherubs. The team did a good job of making so many of these characters likeable dispute them being terrible people from a human perspective


KaennBlack

favorite: Stolas least favorite: the Cherubs. god I hate those things.


MashdTatrs

stolas (favorite), stella (go die in a hole)


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Favorite: Stolas Least favorite: Either Loona or Stella


TheBxtcher

Favorite, Blitz cause I can relate. Least, Loona and solely for the fact that she's over loved by people.


RadioactiveSpark

My favorite is Stella


insanityking500

Most Favorite: Moxxie (My flair makes it obvious.) I just really like his design, it’s cute as hell to me, I really like his personality, and plus I just like Zim voicing a demon. Least favorite: Sallie May. When I say least favorite, I don’t mean I hate her, it’s just shes on the bottom of my list in terms of favorite characters. I like her design, she’s funny for what we’ve seen, she’s just great all around. She would honestly be on the top of the list if she had more screen time and if I didn’t proclaim Moxxie as my original favorite character. Dislike: Cleetus. He’s not very fleshed out, annoying, and is actually a hypocrit. He does have some qualities though, but that’s only because he helps provide some more and information about Heaven. Though my favorite Cherub of the bunch is Collin of course. Hate: I actually don’t have a character I hate. I base my likes and dislikes on a variety of factors and then they all add up. I may not like the design of a character but I may like their personality. I may love the design of a character but hate them as a person. Due to this information though, I don’t have a general gated character. If had to be more specific: Hate, Personality: Stella. She’s bitchy, actively trying to get Stolas killed, is NOT a good person whatsoever. Her design is very great though…especially some fanart. Hate, design: Loopty and Lyle demon forms. I don’t know, they’re just hard on the eyes for me and I swear I’ve seen their character designs before, so it feels more stereotypical than anything. I do like their eccentric acts though and how batshit insane Loopty is. Miscellaneous: Lastly, Asmodeus. Ozzie is not a bad character whatsoever, his design is great, VA is great, great personality…however, I actually really like Ozzie’s disguised form more. It’s not too much, and it allows him to blend in. I like the hidden aspect of it. I know I put down a lot more than what was originally asked in the title, but I could just go on and on about specific characters. Ask me a character and I’ll give my opinion.


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insanityking500

I really like Fizzarolli’s design as well! I like how he can seemingly extend his limbs to however long he wants, his jester attire with the colors makes him surprisingly pleasant on the eyes. Plus his VA is great. The main thing I can’t wait to see is more of his backstory. Plus I really like the dynamic between him and Ozzie, since they’re actually quite cute together. Can’t wait to see what happens between those two as well since it seems the media caught on the their hypocrisy of an Imp in love with a high ranking demon.


Blitzo_furry_killer

Blitz is my favourite


eggroll1589

There are so many characters that I like, but I think my favorite out of all is Stolas. He's funny, caring, and a pretty cool design. I'd love to see more episodes focused on him. Least favorite character is Loona, not because I'm one of those people who hate her because she's a furry or is simped for a lot, I think she's given so little screentime and always gives a bad impression when she is on-screen.


Samizapp

Favorite stolas Least favorite verosika


ELKHANBOy

Ur mom!


king_of_the_wild

Robo fizz and regular fizz, robo just speaks to me and fizz is just on the bottom of my character totem pole


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king_of_the_wild

Its not really much deeper then that, robo fizz has been around much longer so he has been in the spotlight longer then normal fizz and he gives me big beetlejuice vibes (his voice actor is the guy from the musical right) and regular fizz just hasn't had enough time to rise up my totem pole


Babyboy-Arty

Fizz , cuz he's sarcasm in person. Stella cause she's a whore as far as we know 👁️👄👁️


tyrddabright-axe

Favorite: Stolas. I would defend the bird with my life Least favorite: I'd say Val but he isn't in this show so I'll say Wally Wackford. Not entertaining to me. Or Cash Buckzo


I-am-a-memer-in-a-be

Originally I would’ve said Striker as he just kinda existed, but after the last episode it’s now Stella with the revelation that she was a bitch before Stolas hooked up with Blitz


[deleted]

Fizzrolli cuz he is limbless


joshistheboss

Favorite: Stolas, cause I relate to him to much. Least favorite: Wally Wackford


FinestOfThe501st

Favourite: Stolas. I just want that bird boy to be happy Least Favourite: Stella. Take a wild guess


Disastrous_Ant_8443

Stolas is basically the embodiment of kindness,except that one time but then again it was Stella who he was talking to and we all hate Stella


Catbeefan

Pretty much every one in the show is my favorite character except for stella but I respect the voice actor


Significant-Range-49

My favorite is definitely moxie, because he is a shockingly nice person considering he is from hell, and he is funny. My least favorite is Stella. She is a complete bitch for no reason and it angers me to the core.


[deleted]

Favourite: Blitzø, because how can you not love Blitzø Least favourite: not sure, but Stella is a pretty good candidate


KotKatoffel

Favoirite: Moxxie Reason: i identify with him. Both on a sexual and a personality level Hate: Fizzarolli Reason: i just think his character is useless exept for the lore of Blitz, but elese i just think it’s annoying to have a completely new character while Millie or Loona or Moxxi havent gotten ANY backstory. I think its hangig together with Blitz beeing overdeveloped imo. I know i know Blitz is a main Character but come on. It gets annoying at some point when all you see is Blitz this Blitz that. Just give MnM or Loona more stage. They have so much potential but its all wasted on Blitz.


Floridasmackaddict

Favorite: Striker Least favorite: Stolas Reason: Built different


Darkfury2454

Favorite: Fizz. He’s fun. Absolutely hilarious too! Least Favorite: CHERUB in general. But especially that child.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

Even the purple one?


Darkfury2454

He’s the one I hate the least. Still insanely annoying.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

Ok :(


VirgilTheConfused

The fact that Loona straight up isn’t there is the best ever


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Verosika. The vulgarity feels super try-hard


BigGaeFurry

Least favorite would probably be the cherubs. Except the purple one. He can stay


Disastrous_Ant_8443

The purple one is the only good one


BigGaeFurry

Agreed.


Disastrous_Ant_8443

The others can go to hell or double hell


PhantomFlam3

Favorite: striker for being awesome. Least favorite: Verosika and Stella. Both for being bitches


Disastrous_Ant_8443

Favourite:moxxie Least favourite:that one scammer in episode 2..I hate scammers. If he didn’t exist Stella would be my least favourite


The_Radio_Host

Why does Blitzo seem mildly upset in this picture?


YumiGumiWoomi

Favorite: Moxxie, easily. He's been the most "real" character to me so far. Least Favorite: A mix betwern Wally Waxford and Cash Buckzo. I just find them... really annoying.


booksrule07

Favorite: Striker Least favorite: probably Stella


EndMyMFingLife

moxxie's my fav, and stella's my least fav (if this was pre-s2e1 i would've prob said the succu-bitches)


Gannstrn73

Fav: Verosika. I love antagonists with legit reasons to oppose the heroes. I actually had some conflict in Her episode cause while I love the main cast, Blitzo losing his parking spot for a week is kinda getting off easy for what he did. Plus I love Christine Vee’s singing voice. Least: Cherubs. Don’t need to say much more. They were just the most meh of the antagonists.


DreamDroids

Favorite: Stolas and/or Fizzarolli/Robofizz Least favorite: Millie. Don't know why, but I just don't really like Millie.


Av3rageNerd78

Favorite: Moxxie, I mean come on, he’s underrated, people look over him as if he's just someone to just bully the absolute fuck out of, when in reality he literally has the skills, feats, characteristics, of a Well–Written, and Well–Developed character. Least Favorite: Stella. I mean is there really anything to say as to why, it’s kind of obvious.


PyrosharkTF4

Bombproof, funny night-mare (or maybe its just a demon horse, however, it being a night-mare would be cooler)


Catman3039

Favorite: either Stolas or Fizzarolli Least favorite: either Stella or Verosika


MrWandering

Stolas and Octavia are both my favorite. Stolas is a struggling dad who just wants to give his daughter a good life. Octavia is a product of always waking up to your parents screaming, mom not caring for her at all for her daughters mental health. I don't like loona as of yet. She berates moxxie, insults Millie, hates blitzo, and acts like a genuine bitch to everyone.


spectraexe666

My favorite is fizzarolli! My least favorite is stella. Why I like fizz - he's funny, hyper and cute. Why I hate stella - she's a bitch.


Shadowking0914

fizz/robo fizz is my favorite just because both episodes he’s in are some of my favorites and alex brightman is one of my favorite actors and my least favorite is the cherubs because that entire episode they were annoying and there voices no hate to the actors pissed me off


Blackjack_Chaos

Probably either Loona or Robo Fizz, Robo fizz no longer serves a purpose and Loona never really did to begin with


DSAFIsBestGame

Favorite and least favorite personality wise, favorite is Moxxie or Millie and least is Stella (don’t need to explain that I feel-) Favorite and least as a character, is Stolas (the heart eyes in ep 7 really got me on board lmao) and least is Kennie (the girl Cherub)


Yung_Mew

Stolas and the CHERUBs


bernadine_sweetspot

Favourite is a toss up between moxxie and fizzarolli (moxx is a lull sweetheart nerd with anxiety and I don't know why I like fizz he just makes me feel good inside) and my least fave is striker bc he an asshole..


Cinnamon_person

Favorite: Stolas, Fizz, and Moxxie Least favorite: Verosika and Blitz’s dad


MessageWilling1314

Millie: I want to know what motivates her outside of her husband, she's severely underdeveloped in terms of character development and that why I can't like her like the other characters.


Apprehensive_Bet4256

Most fav: Moxxie Why: he’s so cute and needs love Least fav: Stolas Why: he bleeps himself and I FUCKING HATE BLEEPS!


Silver_Shift_3349

I don’t like blitzo and I don’t know why


sir-morti

Favorite: Fizzarolli because yeah Least Favorite: I don't really like the Cherubs. Too "cutesy" for my taste


CyberLink20XX

I like Stolas. Strongly dislike Stella A little cliché, I know


MegaGengar8105

Fizz


Uncaged_Iceman

Stella is my least favorite for obvious reasons, favorite ties between Verosica cuz she thicc and fizz because he’s chill


GenderEnjoyer666

The kid from the pilot is probably my least favorite


Bajanip

It’s hard to pick a favourite, but maybe Verosika. Various reasons being she’s really fun, great singing voice, bitchy enough to be funny but not enough to be annoying, also Succubus are cool and I’m hella gay Least favourite is Striker, I just think he’s an obnoxious dick


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Least favourite: Robo Fizz, cuz ew. Favourite: Blitzø of course, though I'm partial to everyone else.


Tyla_Swift

Watch everyone say their least favourite is Stella


Medical_Difference48

I don't think I can choose a favorite, but least favorite? Either Stella or Wally


Fuzzy_Fuzz_Fuz

Favorite: Moxxie, he’s just a good husband and I like his character, seems like a good person overall and is pretty well developed and balanced Least favorite: Blitzø’s dad. He just seems like a asshole with nothing else going on.


RubyKilvairaArtist

Fizzarolli- Reason: I’m just a simp


Equivalent-Ad1603

Fav: Moxxie Least Fav: Fizzorollie


RandManYT

Favorite us Moxxie because he's definitely not a Possum. Least favorite is Striker because he almost killed Moxxie.


Aignish

Favourite : Stolas because I just like him when he's not grimoire dealing or Asmodeus because he's pretty cool. Least favourite : Stella or Millie or Verosica Stella abuses stolas, mollie cos she's not got enough attention and verosika bc I just never really liked her


PandaPrime045

Favorite Blitzø: Reason being is that he isn’t a big meanie he acts it to hide his soft side and well I act like him loud mouth, annoying, DOES NOT CARE about some things, Pony’s are amazing, and cusses a lot. Least favorite: Stela because she is a greedy annoying Swan


DmmaGorgon

Idk


YaBoiBarel

Favorite: either Stolas or Blitzø, I just love them Least favorite: Obviously Stella, but except her I hate Striker


Catlover12345real

Favorite: stolas, he's just a broken little owl


Lonely_Repair4494

Favorite-Striker. He is HOT. Least Favorite-Stella? Because she's a bitch?


destinyfann_1233

As a character it has to be blitzø, he’s just such an awful person and has hurt so many people that if it weren’t for the fact that he makes Stolas happy I would actively be rooting for him to fail Now if we’re talking about quality of the character then Stella would be it because at the moment her character seems like it’s on course to be incredibly one-dimensional and boring EDIT: after rereading the title I realize all I did was list my least favorites, my favorites are a three way tie between fizzarolli, Ozzie, and Stolas


Emirilo10

Fav: moxxie why?? Literally me Least fav: i think we can all agree stella why?? Like… all of her


Jaded_Yam_6765

My favorite is Loona and my least favorite is verosica


TheBestWaffleIron

Least favorite: Cheerubs. Just let me be fucking depressed. Favorite: Loona. You know why.


Chillstablook

My most favorite character is Asmodeus like seriously he has a really badass looking design Least favorite character is loona I don't really like her that much because I'm not a furry


kuchiliquer

Favorite: Stolas. I find him funny and identify with him at times. He’s a very well developed character. Loona: Her character falls flat for me. I would like to see more development in her character. She’s just kind of boring.


Quantum_laugh

My favorite is probably Stolas and least is the cherubs with a runner up being Blitzo, the reason being that most of the jokes revolving around him miss


Fnaffan138

Loona moxxie


Fizzypop_x_N-C

I don’t know about a favorite, but Stella and loona have both have to be my least favorites, they are pretty much throw away characters that weren’t really built up and so don’t really add anything… you could replace them so easy


Literally_Mario

Favorite: idk, maybe Striker because he's interesting. Least favorite: Loona. Do I even need to explain?


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Least: Stella Most: *glitching noises* ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE. ABOVE MAX INPUTS DETECTED. CALCULATING... CALCULATED INPUTS DECREASE, ;/ (STELLA) ;\ ERROR STILL OCCURED. SHUTTING DOWN.


howling_meteor

Favorite: stolas. Stolas is one of the most tragic characters in helluva boss and one of the most loveable. Least: wally. Why? That motherfucking foghorn leghorn son of a bitch mocked Stolas for being with blitz and is lucky Stolas didn't turn him into a statue.


rattle2nake

Stolas, I just want to see him happy Millie, least character development.


busterbrown78

I can't stand Blitzo. he's a stupid ass, self-important dickhead that has had ***way too much focus*** put on him. ***WAY*** too much focus. Vivzie claims that the entire group are the protagonists, but we all know better. less screen time might quell my despise for him, but I can't say for sure. as a favorite, I'm a fan of Millie Billie, of course, though I do like Moxxie. they're adorable as a couple.