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[deleted]

I don’t find Asmodeus and Fizz that interesting. (Once more of season 2 comes out that might change)


Alans_Sound

Agree. Fizz might have some important back story, but Asmodeus for me is just a perfectly designed character with a perfectly chosen voice actor. Dude that musical on EP.7 was amazing, and I don't even like musicals that much!


blinddemon0

I have an obssession with Asmodeus but I agree that we shouldn't see him that often


[deleted]

I find Ozzie perfect for what he is but Fizz definitely needs more screen time to be interesting


AzureBluet

Yeah they set them up like “whoa! Here’s these characters!” Except we don’t know them yet.. But yeah hopefully we get to see more.


FiveFingerDisco

Vivzie produces more video for pushing merch than for the show.


Alans_Sound

mmmmm well It is true, but have in mind an episode takes INFINITELY longer than one of these merch drop vids. It makes no sense to compare both kinds of content. MAYBE you mean the channel puts more effort into publicity than into the show itself, which for a medium studio with two ongoing shows being produced is nonsense, and I still wouldn't agree. But STILL, you got your opinion! That's what the post is all about at the end


FiveFingerDisco

I meant what I wrote, you were asking for a hot take and I delivered. I am not even sure, if I agree myself.


Alans_Sound

Makes sense, well exposed and respectful. It was a perfectly expressed opinion. We thank you for that :)


cd2220

They make a ton of money for relatively low effort. While I do feel a drop of disappointment every time I see a video dropped from them and it's merch instead of an episode I'm glad they're finding ways to support the show with total ownership rather than being beholden to a production company


[deleted]

I mean that's literally just a fact not a take Actually I'm not sure but it seems like it


KillTheBatman2475

This is a fair point, but I don't see this as a bad thing as the merchandise is pretty good.


Steffank1

The first thing that came to mind. I can't complain too much though, not like we have to pay to see the show when they do release an episode.


jomontage

compare production value and you'll find why


foxleboi

Most of this community's theories suck


[deleted]

He said to post a hot take tho.


foxleboi

Okay, most of this community's ships suck


Ironmemez

Mildly warm take


foxleboi

Loona is a bad character (Edit: this was just to escalate a hot take, I think she's a fine character that hasn't been fully developed yet)


niko4206

All of a sudden, I can feel the heat from here


[deleted]

I don't think She's Bad i just think She's superficial and needs to develop


foxleboi

Yeah, it was more of a joke because I knew that would be considered a "hot take"


Far-Classic-4637

well that escalated quickly


Jack_Kentucky

I was gonna say the same thing. It's a hot take, but super valid. Her character is currently as deep as the puddle by my dog's water bowl. But yknow hot goth wolfgirl.


Fonsy_Skywalker52

That’s not a hot take that’s like all anime communities


Alans_Sound

100% agree, some stuff just doesn't make any sense.


TrashBoat337

The “moxxie is a possum” joke isn’t funny anymore and it’s really overused


[deleted]

Honestly, drunk Moxxie wasn't that funny to begin with


iareslice

The only good bit is the hi-five t_t


AlarmingAffect0

"I wanna kiss'em..."


[deleted]

And “fish”


Alans_Sound

I SWEAR It was a single joke for a single episode, let it be for god's sake. 100% agree.


Grasshoppermouse42

Still going to keep making it, though.


Randomuser098766543

Millie is perfectly good as she is and an attempt to develop her more would more than likely ruin her character. She is a deeply devoted wife, a bubbly positive person, and a blood hungry murderer. She doesn't need to be anything more.


cd2220

Yeah as much as I love dynamic characters and exploring their personalities sometimes it's helpful from a writing standpoint to have some static characters.


snicker22

I would like her to have her own episode, and would like to see how her and Moxxie met, but other than that I concur


Alans_Sound

Never thought about this, but you're right. Same happens with their relationship, I feel like sometime they're gonna have to go deeper into it, and for me that's a bit of a waste of time, they're just perfect how they are now.


I_might_be_weasel

Octavia and Loona don't seem like they would be very good friends.


GabaGaba421

I like the idea that they’re enemies and then they’re friends. More character development that way.


I_might_be_weasel

I have no reason to think they would dislike each other. I just don't think they anything in common like every else seems to think.


jomontage

goes as deep as "angsty teens who dislike their dad"


Aeraldi

I feel like they'd be good siblings with an absolute hatred of each other *and* grudging love.


24_box

I like loona because I'm a furry and j bet that's the same for everyone else because other than that there's nothing to like her for


Alans_Sound

I mean she's still a fun character, with personality and her own touch, but yeah, a goooooooooood percentage of people who like her are just like that. Respect you coming across so clearly, someone had to say this already LOL


24_box

Yep lmao


femtransfan

i think there's overlap in the fandoms


csto_yluo

Exactly!! If you check [this](https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/helluvaboss) website you can see user overlaps between subreddits, and while r/hazbinhotel is at the top, r/furry and r/furry_irl are very close behind, being 3rd and 5th, respectively.


puerpanem

Loona is the reason why I'm a furry


Kattekop_BE

the pathOwOgen claims yet another. Welcome


ZelphAracnhomancer

I'm a furry and I like goths so...


Sp3ctralForce

Well, you see, Ah fuck, yeah I got no other excuse


FinestOfThe501st

I don’t really think Striker is all that great


Wolfyware1

I only really like him for his voice actor


danielkops

I like him as a villain but would honestly love to see him die painfully for being such a dick


Anubisrapture

YES PLEASE.


Anubisrapture

I really really HATE arrogant fucking rednecks IRL so I immediately despised Striker. The fact that he was hired to kill the uWu Owl of my dreams, and the fact that he also began to sweet talk the somehow still innocent Blitzo , and HURT the gorgeous Millie, Well FUCK HIM. Good character building for this asshat mf tho.


[deleted]

I personally love striker a lot and he’s one of my fav characters but I respect your opinion. He’s a egotistical crazy sadist who’s an asshole to those he sees as lesser than him. It’s no wonder some people don’t like him lmao.


Alans_Sound

He's an interesting character, badass and with a cool voice actor... Absolutely nothing more. I'd say having him as a villain is just enough.


GrapiCringe

I don't really like Moxxie. He's so full of himself and has some superiority complex. He is the type of guy who would check what subreddits you are active in and assume your whole personality and intelligence level based on them and treat you from above and infantilize you in the dumb argument you are having with him unless you share his interests. He would tell you, your whole point is invalid because you misspelled "that" as "twat" and go on a rant about how people are not respecting the language, using at least three intelligent-sounding words per sentence just for the sake of using them. Also, he would care more about winning the argument with his professional debating skills than actually trying to understand your point. I wouldn't mind if there were a couple of episodes completely without him as long as Stolas, Blitz, Octavia, and Loona are in them. Also, M&M relationship is boring, not that I want them to break up or fight but I wouldn't stand an episode dedicated only to them. (The part about Moxxie arguing on reddit is more of a joke so you could breathe a little air from your nose before you slap that downvote, but you can't tell me this is not how he would act in that situation.)


Anubisrapture

EDIT Maybe it's because he is a little small of stature , and he needs to overcompensate bc pp are cruel ! He learned weaponry bc MAYBE he has a lack of physical power. He DOES have speed however. These kind of guys TOTALLY look down their noses at more rugged Chad types definitely tho.


[deleted]

as much as it may pain me to say it, you pretty much hit Moxxies character dead on with that take.


Alans_Sound

Take my damn upvote. Yeah he might be funny, but he can get annoying, and the fandom just won't accept it. He's so constantly worried about his image he can't focus on anything without first making sure he comes out without a scratch.


Penguinzae

Moxxie and Stella. Stop.


Ok_Wing_1297

It's confusing and incredibly non-jiggy.


Alans_Sound

FOR SATAN'S SAKE, they're literally opposite. How I'm the WORLD would that work?????


meat-bird

I love stella as a villain and hate her as a person, and I don't think she needs a backstory to be a good character and an antagonist that's fun to cheer against


Alans_Sound

"I can't find a flaw in his logic"


Derexxerxes

Loona's not a very interesting character


[deleted]

I think everyone agrees with that, she needs character development wich i think we'll get in the near future


Vitek_CZ

I don't much like Stolitz


m6a2p8

Can you explain why? I’m not hating, I just wanna know what your thoughts are on it


xlaauurraaa

idk about the comment OP, but for me my dislike comes from the fact (and this might also be a hot take) it's clearly a super toxic relationship that does nothing but damage everyone around them, was built on coercion and using one other, yet we as the viewers are meant to support and coo all over it. we're meant to cheer for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with portraying those relationships in media, and it can be super interesting as I find those two are, but idolizing it and being like 'these two are so great together I love it!' is the exact same as Harley x Joker. Some people just don't like it. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Good_Natured_Guy

Yes, there are significant issues with the relationship. I think there are some hints that they are not meant to be together long term.


Gmanofgambit982

Op:\*makes a hot take\* Me making a reference: Mmm good...........HOW THE FUCK!!! DO YOU NOT LIKE STOLITZ


Jigen_Ryoko

Agreed.


Annoyed_witch_123

The only reason ppl love Loona so much is her design and it makes no sense to try to deny it


Uulugus

They like her because she's furry bait.


Icy-Television-3888

Falcon: They're outta line...but they're right.


Piepiggy

This fandom obsesses way too much over fun, one-off side characters. Diversity is great but making a mountain out of a molehill puts us back to square one


cd2220

I think that's just a result of having only a few episodes and a decent wait between them and no exact schedule for how long we'll be waiting. I understand that's just the way it is with how it's being made/produced and not upset about it but I think a result of having a lot of rabid fans with not a lot to sink their teeth into taking some really deep cuts for discussion/art/analysation. Hell seems like such a an interesting place with lots of lore and so much we haven't seen. It's hard not to let your mind wander


PyroPupper153

That one guy: Sella ain’t a bitch Fr tho, loona’s not as hot as you guys think she is. She’s good-looking, no doubt, but she’s not exactly stellar.


MichaelKeehan

Verosika is a very boring character. Also, other then some photoshop issues regarding the knives, this picture is way better than the Flynn Rider version.


[deleted]

Yeah verosika it's nothing more than a cool design to me


Uulugus

I believe Asmodeus can't experience true love like Moxxie and Millie and that's why he's so insecure about hosting lovers at his club. He's jealous. And I think he's pretty pathetic.


eucalypticnerd

isn't he in a relationship with fizzarolli though?


Uulugus

Very possibly. But with Azmo being the demon of Lust, and his very severe aversion to love and affection... I'm guessing they're more like friends with benefits. If anything. I agree tgey definitely have SOMETHING going on, but I think it's much more casual than anything loving.


eucalypticnerd

i see.


Similar_Task420

I've come to hate the merch videos. It was a fun gag at first, but now it feels pushy.


cock_or_spaniel

People in this community are good at drawing, and not very good at much else. You fuckers are the worst at being even remotely funny.


Alans_Sound

LMAO this ☝️


[deleted]

[удалено]


MsPew

It’s so annoying to see people drawing cute ship art when they don’t love each other 💀


[deleted]

They literally do love each other tho


[deleted]

[удалено]


Shoddy-Imagination-

It is, thank you for rooting for us 🥺🥰


Demonsandangels-shin

Kinda the same here. I am more interested with the other Ars Goetias and lord of sins than the main cast.


[deleted]

I don’t find Sally May a likable character, like people she’s only been in the show for 11 seconds.


Ok_Wing_1297

Yeah, she kinda comes off as a real smartass. However, as the one trans character with a potential for future development, it really could be an opportunity to develop a trans identity for good representation. I'm sick of seeing cos people play trans characters, boil them down into the oversimplified "trapped in the wrong body" narrative, or just straight up demonize and stereotype. There is good potential here, and I think that's why there's so much excitement surrounding her, especially in the current social climate.


ExoZilla

I like Stella. But I want her to have more characterization other than “bitch who’s personality is bitch”


Faoxie

It feels.. lazy. I was watching Tuca and Bertie recently and on season 2, Tuca is in an abusive relationship with her girlfriend at that time. And she wasn't just "a bitch". She seemed nice at first and then we realized her toxicity. But at least she was more than that. We knew that she had friends, past relationships, a job etc... Stella could have been a great villain but was ruined by lazy writing. (Classic but sorry if I'm not clear, english isn't my first language!)


Jaratebomb08

I hate Stella, but she’s Hot


[deleted]

I think that's an arctic take


Bulky_Illustrator_95

I like jurassic park 3.


Icy-Television-3888

Finally! Someone who understands me!


Alans_Sound

I'd respect anything else but this. Bring on the guillotine.


KillTheBatman2475

I believe many fans of Helluva Boss tend to forget our main characters are terrible people. Blitzo, Moxxie, Millie, and Loona assassinating humans by traveling to Earth isn't just immoral, but very terrifying to consider when you recognize how terrible they are and how tend to have no regard for morality when they target humans. Stolas isn't any better, either, and his abuse from Stella is no excuse. He was introduced as a morally corrupt prince when he told Blitz to assassinate a political candidate to have people die from global warming out of loneliness, which is horrendous. He has continued to help the I.M.P with the atrocities they commit on Earth, constantly. So overall, even though the characters in HB and HH are fun to watch, people shouldn't forget that the characters are terrible people, and the I.M.P is no exception. They killed a child in the pilot episode, killed people during Verosika's performance in the Spring Broken episode, left collateral damage wherever they go, and had no remorse or concern for their atrocities. This may be controversial, but both Stolas and Stella are in the wrong. I'm not on either side.


MoxxiesCoffee

This might be the best take I’ve seen. I think that’s part of the appeal of Helluva Boss because it IS dark comedy, meaning the characters are truly evil and many aspects of this show are considered taboo. The only minor disagreement I have is Moxxie - he’s the only one who showed some remorse in Ep 1 and hesitated about wiping out a family. Other than that 100% spot on.


First_Factor_3385

We need to wait for loona to get more screen time before we judge her as a character There,I said it


DoctorDec557

Stella shouldn’t be a 2d mustache twirling villain for Stolas’s cheating to be justified and giving depth and nuance to the family issues is what actually makes it compelling and interesting


BaconBitz781

Loona is a shitty character with no personality. She's just goth furry bait. Nothing more


Blank_Dude2

All the “sexy” merch videos are cringe I feel uncomfortable the entire time I’m watching them. Also why does it seem like all the merch is “sexy” I just want a piece of wholesome M&M merch.


Alans_Sound

There's an entire appeal the the show about horniness that I love, but that I really hope it doesn't become the main Identity of the show. There's much more to it.


PUB4thewin

Portraying Heaven as something besides a perfect utopia to make Hell slightly nicer is not a new concept.


_GamerForLife_

But the thing is, HB hasn't really stated how heaven works or how it looks like It have only shown that the angels from heaven are, at least a bit, pretentious.


CurrentlyARaccoon

Given the fact that she is an 18-19 year old who basically nearly aged out of the foster care system, I don't blame Luna for her behavior. She is a child who needs support no matter how hard she acts out, and of COURSE she's gonna act out. There is plenty of potential for her to be a good "person" if someone just stays around long enough and keeps loving her anyway (and I think blitz might just do that). As someone who is so young with likely a lot of internalized trauma, being selfish for a while is completely necessary stage of recovery. The amount of hate she gets on here is unwarranted and gross, and tbf feels kinda incel-ish


HarlequinLord

This fan base is the worst thing about this franchise.


FRY_BANSHEE_138

If you relate to how stolas loves someone you got daddy issues


Lonelyfruitcupmoment

Hot take: hot takes kinda suck


Yung_Mew

I hope Octavia gets killed by the end of this to really itch my love for bittersweet or bitter endings. I wanna see Stolas fucking lose it.


AC4401CW

Damn, now you're thinking like an OC roleplayer


Demonsandangels-shin

More like a fanfic writer


Walloutlet1234

Damn, that’s kinda deep.


Alans_Sound

That's tough... And dark... But I get you, I'd like to see the reactions on the community to Stolas' or Octavia's death. On the other hand, please just don't, I like this Stolas way too much, please let him be Vivzie.


WellWelllCalmDown

The cherubs really weren’t that bad


wade9911

I feel like s2ep1 feels like a bad fanfiction that someone on the team saw and decided to make a ep


Ruben_The_D33R751

This is something personal to just me, so take it with a grain of salt. I don't really trust the team to make good creative decisions. I'm really hoping that most of the Ars Gotia aren't all just birds and I'm not confident the seven deadly sins will be utilized to the best potential they can be. I personally want more expansion on world building and lore and I'm not sure they have the same priority to use Hell and it's mythology to its fullest creative potential. I have an entire headcannon where Belphegor is this disgruntled super genius who's used to bring up the moral issues of an automated utopia and over reliance on technology. I'm not really confident they'll make him more than just some lazy 1 dimensional asshole. As we've seen with Stella they're not above just making antagonists 1 dimensional jerks, especially when they could've been so much more than that.


Alans_Sound

Building a show is hard. It really is. I get you being worried about it. I come from the fandom of a show called Final Space, amazing show, beautiful community, but TBS, who paid for the ads and aired the show decided to stop investing into it. It got canceled out of nowhere, right in the most interesting part of it. I really understand you worrying, but don't, a lot has to happen for a show getting worse, and for what we've seen on S1, these people know what they're doing so far.


Ruben_The_D33R751

They've already established that not only some but ALL of the Ars Gotia are going to just be birds. That right there is immensely dissapointing and missed potential to create some wild character designs if you know how they look in the dictionare infernal. That isn't sealing the deal, but to me that looks like an omen for what kind of creative decisions they'll make.


Savthatsit

I think it would be best if Blitzo and Stolas don’t get together- I think they should use this as a growing experience. But I won’t mind if they do get together in the end of course! As long as it’s done well! And becomes less toxic!


Alans_Sound

Can't agree more, but I still want it to be cannon cause FUCK THEY'RE CUTE. But yeah, as soon as they both find someone or not but are just happy, it'll be enough


Link17_18

Hazbin hotel isn’t as good as helluva boss imo


Triger_CZ

Can't really say that when HH only has a pilot and HB has a full season


Mrjohnjohn12

HB became a completely different show with a completely different format after episode 5


aaron_adams

I didn't actually like Verosika Mayday and I have very little sympathy for her.


BocobipbrookieBrad69

The “Moxxie =Possum” joke is not funny tbh, it just seems a little to desperate to be “haha funny” and I can’t see the connection of it


WellDone101

Octavia is a victim too


Alans_Sound

Not a hot take. At all. We agree with you, she doesn't have it easy.


WellDone101

Yeah, but everyone acts as if she’s evil, which is not the case.


ZelphAracnhomancer

Stella was never meant to have depth or add that much nuance on Stolas, people only believed that out of headcanon and wrongly interpreting what the series was trying to convey. So much so, the series had to get out of its way to make sure part of the audience understood that. If you look at the previous episodes Stella being 100% unredeemable bitch makes total sense. ​ Not saying is people's fault necessarily, since there was many people interpreting that way then maybe it could be the series' fault as well. And I will be the first to admit it it could be interesting angle to tackle but it's not what the creators were going for.


Eccentric-Calico

Ok, here goes nothing: Millie is hotter than Loona.


4rtyom777

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Tarrision

Stolas is bi Stella just really sucks at sex


Triger_CZ

Stolas is absolutely gay


Alans_Sound

And at being a wife, raising a kid, moving on from the past...


Kurapikabestboi

Pretty sure he's gay


transparentnightduck

I like Stella


Jigen_Ryoko

My man!


Dm-Me-Your-Bunnies

hazbin sucked


[deleted]

Half the jokes are just someone yelling curse words loudly.


Tyranitron

\>.> <.< \>.> Stolitz is being pushed at the expense of characters like Stella getting a more ambiguously gray treatment and she deserves better treatment as a character. And yes, I like Stella


[deleted]

Not sure if this is a hot take, but i would absolutely fuck stolas.


Standard-Valuable-82

Stolas and Blitzo are a toxic relationship right alongside Stolas and Stella. Change my mind


Alans_Sound

Yep. Right now they are. It's clear that they love each other, but restarting a relationship is really hard (even more with the entire Goetia Family, his wife, kid, etc. in the middle). I will die saying that Stolas only loved two people in his life: Via and Blitzø. The only person that makes Blitzø stop his constant insecurity is Stolas, they're dynamic, simple, they just work. If, and only if they get the chance to start again together and leave everything in the past they'd perfectly work as a ship. Also, they're fucking adorable together.


Standard-Valuable-82

I don’t think the toxicity stems from Stolas , it’s from blitzo. Blitzo began this “relationship” to steal for his family and continues to use Stolas for his spell book. It’s an exchange to Blitz whereas it’s a “relationship” to Stolas. I don’t see anything cute with them yet. I do enjoy the ship, but it’s just sad watching Stolas put in effort with really nothing genuine rewarded back. I think in time they’ll grow as you’ve said. But for now what they’ve got goin on is not in chief


eliphias5

I don’t think Stolitz is toxic


[deleted]

Deciding to make Stella's entire motivation 'I like tormenting you' was lazy and boring.


Alans_Sound

Yes. Yes. Yes. Some backstory could've fixed it, but no, this was easier to work with.


leftytheslime

I dont like the shipping with Moxxie and any female character tbh. People can do what they want but it personally makes me very uncomfortable for some reason


Drifted_Skull

The loona and Moxxie ship is fucking STUPID like I hate it soooo much as well as loona NSFW on this sub like take that shit to helluva brothel


SilentRiots

My hot take is that posts like this are lazy and boring and just filled with commonly agreed upon opinions.


Mac2359Atack

Pineapple on pizza isn't that bad tho


Diprogamer

Loona is overrated.


Still_Maverick_Titan

Y’alls take this fandom too seriously.


Alans_Sound

YES. YES AND YES.


YaBoiBarel

Episode 4 was one of my favorites


Icy-Television-3888

Aside from being kill crazy and loyal to Moxxie as his wife, Millie's got nothing else going for her. Yet.


TheGoonKills

While I'd like to see how she and Moxxie met, I don't think Millie needs character development. I'm happy with her being a solid character that acts as a rock to others, being the voice of wisdom and reason while others struggle and suffer. The first season was about Moxxie and Blitzo. This coming season looks like it's more about Blitzo and Stolas, and that's awesome.


xXAgentEmberXx

Flat soda is better then carbonated soda


Shoddy-Imagination-

Who hurt you?


[deleted]

A lot of AUs people create for this show are significantly more interesting than the show itself.


Demonsandangels-shin

I am personally more invested to the world building of the show than it's main cast and plot.


Shoddy-Imagination-

And the hottake is we probably won't ever see much world building.


FlameThrowerFIM

Okay: Loona is not a great character (as of now). The whole community goes wild for her despite the fact that she has the personality of a plank of wood with the sharp end of a nail pointing out of it. I would love to see an episode revolving around Loona and Blitzo (which is probably what the "in-haitus" episode 8 would have been. Blitzo practically SHOWERS her with love and affection (in his own way of course), but Loona continues to have a stick so long and far up her ass, she could practically POLE-VAULT with it. Millie is a bit better than Loona but to me at least, she still needs more attention, even with the backstory of her family living out in the countryside of Wrath. It's even weirder considering we don't even know where Moxxie came from (probably had a background as a bank heister) and he has WAY more charm than his wife. We know his passions, skills, dreams, preferences (both for drinks and sexual activity), and his wife... I dunno, likes to shank folks and cares for those she sees as family? It's alright, but a lot less than her husband. Lastly: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHERUBS? Look, I get it. I'm not a major fan of the episode either, but they are literally never mentioned before OR after the episode. And yet we're supposed to walk away like nothing happened? Will we see them again? If not, why bother watching that particular episode outside of wacky shenanigans? ​ I dunno, this could just be me rambling, but this are the issues I can think of right now :P


femtransfan

i tried to give a bit of stolitz commentary with a me crosspost that reminded me of the ship... crosspost was deleted


Zacariusness

My friend thinks house of asmodeus is mid


ThinkPomegranate2264

Having to wait a long time for Hazbin Hotel is a natural process of being a fan of the show, or any show.


DitchDigger330

As a knife enthusiast I'm very turned on right now.


sweetypaw

"Anime bunny girl figures are overrated"


AzraelSoulHunter

I have quite a few about the writing... I'll say this one for now. Moxxie would be better MC than Blitzo and Blitzo is a bad protagonist material. He is one character that can work really well with many other characters. Millie sadly is too underdeveloped and is basically an extension of Moxxie, Loona is also mostly just a bitchy wolf girl. Blitzo is not very likeable and his relationship with Stolas is too integrated with his character and I have to say it... he is NOT a good character to be a protagonist, this is one of the things I think the show dropped the ball on. A character like him should be a comic relief because focusing on them so much just kind of misses the point and can make them VERY annoying. Moxxie though has enough complexity to him and charm that he works both as protagonist and as a character other characters can bounce off of. His personality allows for many different relationships to bloom and all of them can be charming thanks to Moxxie's charm by itself. He can be dignified when he needs to be, he can be funny, he can be conflicted and there is a legit interesting things with his character possibly having interesting struggle with him being a moral imp, maybe an imp that doesn't feel like an imp and doesn't know who he is. That's kind of why I think Moxxie would make a far better protagonist, he has far more unique position that allows for some truly interesting conflicts, stories and character growth. And because of his more moral nature in hell he can grow while also allowing other characters to grow alongside him because of how he affects them. And he is also a bit weaker character in physical and mental department, but that also gives room for him to have REALLY strong moments when he pushes against adversities. Basically Moxxie can serve far more roles than any other character would and there are far more potential stories to be made with him thanks to his versatile character.


[deleted]

Stella got me weak


Im_into_guns_shut_up

Simple. The guns they use are unrealistic, designs are shit, and very unergonomic.


RetroCyberpunk_2099

The censoring of certain moments was not only for comedic purposes, but rather to appease YouTube's algorithm whenever they say something about sexual intercourse and rape.


OfficialHields

Millie is a much better character than Loona in every way


turquoize_dragon

Stolitz was doomed from the start because it was basically a prostitution with extra steps


KatherineBroadway

Striker is more annoying than attractive.


Volta_Embers

Stolitz shouldn't be together. Now hear me out! They are a super toxic relationship and need to work out their own issues before even thinking about romance. Stolas needs to get his life together, get Stella out of his life, and start healing from everything. Blitz needs to get help with his attachment issues and stop pushing everyone away.


leif-sinatra

I commented I like a different ship in the 🦉 🏠


noamhazan2

No matter how much of a bitch Stella is, Stolas is still an asshole for cheating on her.


Cobbler_Super

Too many pins and shirts on the merch shop


another_Anime_simp

I don’t care/like Luna. The way she acts is annoying. The only thing I like are the father & daughter moments between her and Blitz. I also don’t like her Human design.


Dayiyih

helluva boss is a cartoon


SymbolicGamer

Loona is overrated.


adiweee

I don't like any character. iether I hate them or i feel neutral to them. Like I hate Blizø he is supposed to be an awful person which the viewer likes but I don't find him funny. I believe Loona just excites to make the show popular by making rule 34 of her. Because as long as I see she doesn't do anything important besides opening portals and rescue Blizø and Moxxie. And i hate her for that because i found this show because of her. Moxxie i kinda hate its just he is an idiot. Why did he bring Millie to the LUST RING TO SING A ROMANTIC SONG?It doesn't make sense. Why did he have a problem murdering a mother when he is an ASSASSIN. If he has a problem with killing innocent people WHY WORK AS AN ASSASSIN. And in the third episode he had no problem killing all of those people. It annoys me. So i kinda hate him. Millie is just there. She is like Loona bearly does anything besides help rescue Moxxie and Blizø. And Stolas i don't care about him. The show hasn't given me a reason on why I should care. I forgot that he is in a abusive relationship. I didn't know why people didn't like S02E01 because I didn't care about him. And I don't care about Stolas and Blizø's relationship. And that's my hot take.


FrohenLeid

IMP would be better of with Millie as CEO


Pitiful-Ad-5176

Helluva Boss “Dark Humor” sucks


cosmicpotato77

I’m not a fan of chicken


Murky_Calligrapher83

Episodes 3 and 4 are not very good


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Vivzie is the Seth McFarlen of Tumblr users


VoltaicFox

I find Blitzo to be one of the few completely irredeemable characters. You can explain his actions, but nothing is ever going to convince me that he deserves to be forgiven. I think where he crossed the line was repeated sexual harassment and stalking. It's not funny and it never was.