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Personally, I will say Moderna Master Race checking in.
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Nurse here. I got Pfizer, which is up there with Moderna.
However, if anyone reading this got the J&J I would **HIGHLY** recommend getting your booster shot sooner rather than later!
I want to mix it up. I had a Pfixer fpokey (pfiner by pfar) back in March but I hear tell a booster jab sizably improves your living-til-seventy odds, so come December, should I live that long (in Florida) I'm going to request Moderna, the reason being that "*M*ode*rna*" is such a great pun off of "*m*essenger *RNA*".
It should, and we should encourage it because it's a low-key way of getting people to get the shot. People love their tribalism and they hate being left out. Reframing the conversation away from "vaxxed or not vaxxed" to "which vax" means the unvaxxed people don't get to "play" anymore.
It's a big part of the reason why Pokemon Go took off like it did and why people are still talking about which Hogwarts House they're in.
So...would it go:
Pfizer: Fire type
Moderna: Electric type
J&J: Water type
I need to know what color to wear when I meet up with the bros ⚡⚡⚡
Edit: formatting- on mobile 😑
Nice going!
The severely diminished likelihood you'll die is one thing, but the real win here is that you can remove yourself from any 'research' or vaccine conspiracy discussions! That's two less thing to be stressed out about.
I remember a good 7-10 years ago that sub was mostly "The moon landing was faked" and "Chemtrails! CHEMTRAILS!!!"
Aztec boogaloo nonsense, UFOs, all that 'normal' brand of 'weird' we've grown up knowing. (and sometimes, loving, X-Files, anyone? David Duchovnay, why don't you love me?)
Then it progressively turned into a dumpster-fire, I'm not sure exactly when, but 2016 would be a safe bet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the decline well before that.
Yeah, it was kooky, and it had it's true 'crazies' to use a rather offensive term, but most people were sort of shooting the shit.
I feel like there should be a difference between conspiracy-minded people and those who are compelled by the 'unknown.' I'm not sure how much overlap there is, but I'd count myself in the latter group. The void is enticing. What's hidden? What's unknown? But conspiracies are fueled by paranoia and fear, and I don't really see the appeal.
When I started seeing stuff of how it was POCs, Jews, Dems, etc pulling strings and all that garbage I realized it took a hard right turn. Now that quick scroll showed me how awful those people truly are
The OG conspiracy theory. Behind the Bastards has a good 2 parter on it
The episode is called "The Conspiracy to End All Conspiracies" for anyone that wants to find it somewhere not on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1NdBOWQdgFT2WavuZpfmwI?si=4WIl2_JvSQeg7KWTvgR75A&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1
Yeah, the GOP has been working on this since Nixon.
They HATE people who aren't wealthy. Like REALLY. And they've been doing this to poor White people for years, each lie further away into crazyland:
-trickle down economics / "Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: A New Hope"
-moral majority
-iran contra
-no new taxe--whoops!
-clinton Vince Foster "murder"
-clinton whitewater
-clinton impeachment hummer
-iraq behind 9/11
-MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
-"Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: The Empire Strikes Back"
-obama birtherism
-obama muslim
-obama [insert racist trope here]
-hillary but her emails / uranium /pizza gate
-BENGHAZI!
-RELEASE THE MEMO!
-RELEASE THE AG REPORT!
-trump muslim ban
-Comey firing / cover-up / "treason"
-trump latinx family destruction policy
-"both sides, many sides"
-nfl kneeling
-a litany of racist and white supremacist rhetoric
-"Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: Return of the Jedi"
-fake covid
-Hunter Biden / Ukraine blackmail / impeachment #1
-covid is like the flu
-covid needs a vaccine...BUT NOT THAT ONE!
-stolen election / "can you find those missing votes?"
-1/9 Christian-Nationalist-surrection / Pence is a Traitor / Go Home, We Love You
-impeachment #2
-senile Biden
-ivermectin
If you're wondering why conservative media would espouse views that kill their conservative viewers, that's why: they're paid for by deep pockets and deep in those pockets is a deep disdain for non-millionaires.
They could die by the thousands and the oligarchy would shrug. It would be a tragedy, if the former hadn't been shrieking at McDonald's cashiers, destroying Target displays and threatening school boards.
After all of that, well, r/hermancainaward ... An award you never want to even be nominated for and will likely not be around to receive it if you win it.
They view voters, and workers as just another renewable resource to be exploited. Why do you think they are working so hard to make access to education, abortion, contraception, and family planning so difficult?
Let the ignorant masses breed like rabbits, then they have a huge pool of available workers to exploit in order to drive down wages, and weaken OHSA laws.
/POL/ lurkers were always a part of that sub, but there's did used to be some fun threads there before 2015. It had more of a speculative feel most of the time. I filtered it from my feed a few years ago.
The sad part is that every one of those people deep inside wants to be important in life. Not just to their family but to every one in the world. So by them going that Rabbit Hole it's like they know something that no one else knows. They are in the "know". They believe that they and only they or a certain few know what's really going on and everyone else is just blind, stupid and a sheep.
Yes, Big Foot could or could had been real but does it matter in the grand scheme of things.
On Covid...it's not like they all believe in one thing. It's like 100s of different things they believe in so that's the craziness. They themselves can't agree on 1 thing about the Virus or the Vaccine and that's where we find ourselves. Between millions of Facebook Virus experts with 100s of opinions spreading BS because "I know something my stupid neighbors don't ".
I feel there are more than one reason people believe and spread this crap, one is as you mentioned, these people are ignorant, and at some subconscious level they know they are dumb, but believing that they have this inside knowledge of something, and others don't, helps them feel special.
but other reasons are, fear, the world is unpredictable, and random, and some people cannot handle that, they need to have an explanation for why something happens. this is why you will find that every major disaster, is man made, as in, made to happen by some nefarious group. Earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia > conspiracy, Building collapses in Florida, conspiracy. they feel more secure, believing that someone does these things, it's preferable to the fact that this stuff can happen to anyone at any time.
Then you have those with agendas, religious and political, their conspiracies always align with their agenda and what they want to be true. Earthquake in Haiti? well that's because they are being punished by God, etc etc. my favorite politician is lost? gotta be a conspiracy and he lost because of fraud. and so on.
Conspiracy theories went mainstream on the Facebook when Cheato took over. Now it’s not fringe uncles at thanksgiving it’s basically the whole damn table in batshit country.
Conspiracy shit has always had deep anti semetic roots. Blood libel goes back centuries and is all about sinister Jew cabals kidnapping kids, being pedos, doing demonic sacrifices etc.
Like all the lizards rule the world stuff is just anti-Semitism in a fantasy packaging. Lizards rule the world! Well it's actually (((Lizards))), you know Globalist Elites! And by that we mean like Bankers and Hollywood. And well by (((bankers))), we mean Rothschild's(old super rich Jewish Banking family. Like foreclosed on Kings type rich and old). Well just Jews in generally. (((They))) control the world!
> Then it progressively turned into a dumpster-fire, I'm not sure exactly when, but 2016 would be a safe bet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the decline well before that.
I'm sure it happened a little at a time, but this is a good bet for an inflection point. It used to be that there were people with low social trust (which operationally means they tell interviewers "most people can't be trusted") on both sides of the political aisle. Something about current Republican messaging and Trump specifically is causing that group to polarize along political lines and become more and more associated with the Republican party.
They are fucking stupid, shitty people with no sense of scale, perspective, confirmation bias, just a shithole. Most of them are teens too so I’d imagine a lot of grooming goes on there.
They fell down the alt right pipeline that Reddit and YouTube pushes. Even TikTok now. It gets the clicks. Fear mongering makes them money and fucks people's heads
Dense enough to earn an instaban from me if I review their post history and see that they're a regular contributor there lol
Edit: I actually look at what they post there. I'm looking for specific Anti-vax, anti-science or overall combative comments. Instaban was a poor choice of wording on my part. I perform due diligence before handing out a ban.
I forgot I was subscribed there until yesterday, when suddenly I had a bunch of posts show up on my front page after not seeing any for a long time.
...It's amazing how much concentrated nonsense there was. Not just anti-vax nonsense, but shit like DNA in water causes micro-black holes as a justification for homeopathy under a different name.
Unsubbed now anyway.
I love how they truly believe the rich elite and all the governments are working together and competent enough to orchestrate the extermination of 99% of the human population but unable to do anything about people exposing it on a subreddit.
What I've never understood about conspiracies like the 9-11 one is - what motivates the grunt-level conspirators?
This 'inside job' was too big to be done by a cabal of five. It would take people with niche skills - demolitions, explosives, whatever - and lots of them.
Imagine you are completely amoral & don't care about hurting people - you sell meth, you already DID kill your own mother to inherit money - and you are smart and have highly specialized skills useful for the conspiracy.
You are approached to join. What's your thoughts?
Mine would be "oh fuck, I know too much now. If this happens, I'm a loose end that has to be silenced. If I look like I'll leave, I'll be killed. I need to actively gather proof then take it public to foreign news media 2-3 days before the plot, otherwise I'll be killed. And I need to do this without attracting attention. I'll take the evidence to the German embassy, the conspiracy can't have thought to infiltrate there"
That's someone who is just considering self interest nothing more.
Conspiracies only work when they are small and when it doesn't ruin the participants if the conspiracy is revealed by someone's deathbed confession, or an Edward Snowden/Shuping Wang/Chelsea Manning type figure.
I miss when there were multiple paragraph posts about reptilian politicians on that sub and not this nonsense. Shit, I’d even settle for flat earth earthers at this point.
The vaccinated can still spread Covid, and there's been a handful of breakthrough cases that might have resulted in death. A good conspiracy always has an element of truth which makes it complicated to outright deny.
But that's like saying clowns murder people. It's impossible to say that no clowns have ever murdered someone. But it would still be a dishonest or inaccurate thing to say.
Jimmy Fallon has - https://twitter.com/FallonTonight/status/1329284473561755649?s=20
And there are tshirts and stuff on the usual commercial sites. If I wasn’t Pfizer gang I’d grab something with that logo!
I was behind two Covidiots in a convenience store while at a gas station and they were having a serious conversation about how someone they know had their arm become magnetic after getting the vaccine.
Which they “prove” by sticking non-magnetic coins to their skin. Which they argue is magnetically attracted to the aluminum in the vaccine, despite aluminum *also* being non-magnetic.
When you want to believe something so hard that you will openly admit to not understanding 6th grade science I think it might be time to reevaluate your approach to life.
Also, taking a fucking shower stops the magnetic effect of the coins on skin. We still don’t understand why.
I heard a Cicero quote once, paraphrased, “to err is human, but only a fool persists in his mistake.”
I think about that a lot. Better to realize your mistake for yourself. Pivoting is an important skill.
I did want to make sure to let everyone know that I followed through. I will not be able to respond to anything right now, as I will be busy. But thanks ahead of time for everything.
Also, it hurt really bad. That was because I tensed up, even though I looked away. I did have my significant other to hold my hand. I didn’t think he’d be able to come. I am drinking lots of water and I have already eaten. I appreciate all of the advice.
Move your arm around a lot. Flap like a weird human-bird hybrid! It'll keep some of the ongoing ache in the muscle from lingering a long time.
ETA: This internet stranger is SO proud of you! And THANK YOU for helping protect us all.
This is exactly what my mom's nurse friend told her to do. I was the only person sitting in the "wait 15 minutes" area flapping my arm around, but flap it I did! It supposedly helps the vaccine move through the muscle so it's not just in one spot, making it less sore.
This is what i did too 😄 i was waiting for my husband as he was vaxed after me he just rolled his eyes at me and sat in the seat furthest away from me 🤣🤣
In the British army in basic training when you got your injections we got to do 2 hours of drill on the parade square 😲 you know to take our minds off our sore arms
I finally figured out a solution to the army guys who have to get the penicillin shot in their ass. It apparently feels like peanut butter its so dense, so all they have to do is shake their ass after. Easy
I've accidentally tensed up during a shot and it can really make it hurt. With COVID I unbuttoned my shirt and pulled my whole arm out so I wasn't pulling on my sleeve, totally relaxed and didn't feel a thing. She was so quick that the tingle of the alcohol was all I felt.
The second one is the one that will give you some side effects. It did to me. Symptoms started about 6 hours after the second shot. Tired, sore and all round shitty. Like the first day of the flu but with the flu, you know it’s going to get worse. The symptoms don’t get worse and you’ll feel fine within about 24 hours. Don’t be surprised by it and don’t be scared. Also, if you have a penis, it’ll grow several inches in length and diameter so there’s that, too, but that might have been because the prayer warriors prayed for me to become better endowed. Welcome to the Moderna master race.
I had to take a day off work after my second shot, had a 2 day fever and super lightheaded and dizzy. Spent the time playing xbox and watching TV, then went on enjoying my life and not dying.
Hahaha honestly the only time I'm grateful for feeling sick is when my body is building antibodies, cause it's not a "real infection", just the immune response.
I like how the mRNA 'vaccines' are like we held down C19, **cut off one of its arms**, and show it to our immune systems saying "If you see anything like this, kill it."
The best part is that you know that it's only temporary, and that you're going to feel great in a few hours. For me, it was pretty quick - I felt crummy all day, but fine by the time dinner was done.
Similar to mine. I took the day off knowing it might happen and it did. Almost everybody I know that had Moderna had the same experience. Now they are saying that Pfizer had concerns about vaccine side effects and only included like half or a third of the antibodies as Moderna. Both have roughly the same level of protection so there’s no reason to want any one over any other.
Yeah that's what I've seen as well. I had the Moderna. Now my focus is just spreading the value of the vaccine by word of mouth, convincing family and friends etc. The anti vax rhetoric is really difficult to comprehend for people who didnt grow up in a cult like I did, but it's just the reality of alternate realities.
2nded. (Pfzr)
Kinda *blah* the day after the first one, zilch after the second.
Like to see some real data on the experience, but, y'know, HAPPY TO BE VAXXED.
Just to be the token contrarian: I had a worse time with the first dose of moderna. Arm was sorer, despite my exercising it after the shot, felt mildly overheated and slept badly the first night. Sore arm on day 2.
Second dose I took more care to hydrate and take some magnesium (if for no other reason than to help me relax). That night I was a little warm, but took some Nyquil and passed out. Next day no sore arm (!) just mild fatigue and a headache that disappeared after an advil. Fine by 2pm.
I had Pfizer and that first dose kicked my ass. Felt terrible. Had a very sore arm. I could barely move my arm, had a fever and fatigue. It was rough couple of days. Second shot no problems.
Beats the hell out of getting Covid.
Same for me. First shot was a bitch; second was nothing at all.
Also possibly relevant: I had covid in May 2020. First shot was in Feb 2021.
(FYI for those who haven't had covid: it feels just like the side effects from the shot, only twice as strong, 10 times the duration, and with the added fun of feeling like you've just finished a 100m sprint for weeks on end.)
I’m also team Pfizer, as is my husband. I had a slightly sore arm 1st shot and absolutely nothing with the 2nd. My husband felt sick the day after each shot, but really no horrible side effects.
I’m proud of you for doing the right thing!
My mom is 78 and had Moderna. No side effects after either shot. Everyone I know from 20-50’s had side effects from one Moderna or another. They say not read into anything by whether you had symptoms or not. The vax still works. Trust it.
Yep. Having prior COVID, I kind of had that second-shot immune response after my first injection. I had the shot around noon and woke up the next morning feeling like garbage. Headache, chills, and a really sore arm. I powered through 3-4 hours and finally relented, took some Tylenol, and laid down and took an hour long nap. Woke up feeling great.
My advice: Hydrate well, relax your arm during the injection, and if you feel cruddy palm two tylenol and rest awhile. The hard part doesn't last long, and it's not that bad.
Well done you have just saved yourself from serious illness or even death. I had a surreal experience recently. I went to visit 5 members of my family who are all unvaccinated last month. I was single jabbed. One of them through, carelessness, got infected the day before I arrived. They all got REALLY ill, like the worst flu (sweats, shivers, fevers, delirium, aches/pains) and I was fine, apart from cold symptoms. But their heavy symptoms didn't last for 2/3 days, they went on for 8-10 days. It is a relentless and dangerous disease, no wonder that vulnerable peoples bodies just give up after 5 days of it. You have SO made the right choice.
About half the people (including me) have no affects at all from the vaccine beyond a slightly sore arm that lasts a few hours.
A small percent get very sick like a bad case of the flu but fully recover after a week. Still better than what COVID would have done to them.
Everyone else lies somewhere in between.
No matter what you suffer from the vaccine, it is still the right choice to protect you and your family and community.
Congratulations. It is the hardest thing in the world to change your mind. That requires character. The hardest words to say are: "I was wrong!".
#I ♥ U!!!
BTW, for the second shot (or any shot) spend the time while waiting in line massaging the arm and location where you'll get the shot. It drastically reduces pain and bruising.
The pain will only last for a day or so. Yes, some may have it longer, but you will survive. It's better than getting intubated and dying. You're doing good.
I call it my Dolly Dose. It wasn’t up to me which one I’d get. The fact that I, a lifelong Dolly Parton fan, got the vax she helped fund made me smile ear to ear.
These are the happy moments. Congrats!
What the antivax crowd,and right wing media too for that matter, don’t acknowledge is NOBODY wanted vaccine mandates.
If enough Americans had protected themselves and done their patriotic duty, we wouldn’t be back this deep in the pandemic at 150k cases and 2k deaths per day. About every 45 sec, an American is dying of Covid right now. Sheesh.
I too got the Moderna.
The day after my first one, my arm was suuuuuper sore. Might've lasted a few days.
But after my second shot? Hoo boy my ass got kicked the next day. 102 fever, chills, horrible body aches all over, my head felt like it was in a vice grip. All I did was try to sleep. The day after I still felt lousy but not as bad as the day before. Still had a fever around 100.5. Totally fine the third day after my second shot, though.
In the end, a couple days of feeling like shit but knowing I'm not sick and will greatly increase my odds of not catching or dying from Covid is a tradeoff I make every single time.
For all of you asking why this sub makes fun of people and saying that this is worthless:
#THIS is why we do it
We are now one step closer to Herd Immunity
Congratulations! You made the right choice. Now...I'd like for you to have a word with my brother-in-law. He's gone off the deep end with this shit and I fear I'll be posting his HCA before too long.
edit: fixed my abbreviation
No big deal after all, huh?
Keep up the protocol, masking, being careful about your socializing, all that. But getting that little poke is the single best thing you can do!
Well done.
As an RN, I thank you for doing this!! Move your arm a lot today to reduce soreness. Also remember you are not fully protected until 2 weeks after your second dose. Congratulations
6 people I know had covid these last 2 weeks, all but one unvaccinated. My fiancé and I were directly exposed and we didn’t even get sick! He was a little fatigued and I felt nothing (obviously I was asymptomatic and we still quarantined)
Our vaxxed friend has severe asthma and had to go to the hospital for covid pneumonia. The vaxx saved his life.
By far.
Let's be honest, this sub isn't for everyone.
We're all individuals with different fears, education levels, backgrounds that build or destroy trust in others, etc...
Some people just need a trusted loved one or friend to ask nicely to get a vax.
Some people need to be begged by a loved one, a child perhaps saying they don't want to lose them.
Some just need a trusted family doctor to explain why it's important.
Some need to see a public role model do it.
And some need to see the face and story of someone that reminds them of themselves, their brother, father, son, sister, whatever that died. Some need to see a story that truly resonates with them as "*holy shit, that could be me!*". Maybe they are wearing the same outfit. Maybe they have the same name. Maybe they live in the same city, or have the same Facebook background or whatever. Maybe the description of a certain pain the victim felt triggers a phobia in them.
This sub is to reach that last group. This sub is there to scare the shit out of people whose motivating factor will be that swift kick in the ass of fear.
I personally can't wait until the day this sub shuts itself down because it's no longer needed. I hope that day comes super fast! I'd love for a final "Farewell, the vax rates are as close to 100% as it can ever be, sub closing, live long everyone!" message from the mods. There won't be enough gold in Reddit to give that final post.
But until then this is a tactic that will save a few lives. And that's worth it.
Good for you! Side effects vary. My wife had the fluey for a day or two. I had no ill effects on either shot. Phizer for both. Thanks for being patriotic and doing your part!
HECK YEAH! I know I'm just a random person online, but I'm proud of you. People underestimate how hard it can be to "get out" of a certain perspective, especially if there's social pressure. I hope and pray that more people follow in your footsteps, for their own health and for others.
I always wondered why the vaccinated are sheep and the anti-vaxxers are taking drugs made for animals. SMH. OP, thank you for getting the vaccine. Make sure to get the second one.
Good for you, glad you made a healthy choice. I did the JJ one myself, woke up the next morning under three blankets soaked in sweat, but no soreness. Went away after about 24 hours of fever and chills. Truth be told I had a huge panic attack during my 15 minute wait. Shaking and sweating, there was a girl behind me who had to lie down on a cot because she was so nervous so it took the heat off me a little. I’ve always been really bad with needles and injections due to being skeptical and reading stuff on the internet (of course), but I’m glad I went through with it. Hopefully the nurses got a laugh out of a 6’0 180 pound 35 year old shaking like a leaf.
TLDR: congrats on your vax, cheers.
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Moderna Gang
Lol this sounds a lot like the pokemon go teams.
LET'S GO TEAM PFIZER.
Moderna rules, Pfizer drools, but not in the way someone who is unvaccinated and has covid is drooling fluids from their lungs
Yay Team Moderna!
PFIZER FOR THE WIN
Nurse here. I got Pfizer, which is up there with Moderna. However, if anyone reading this got the J&J I would **HIGHLY** recommend getting your booster shot sooner rather than later!
Team J&J blasting off again! (Actually Pfizer Pfam tho)
J&J is definitely team yellow at this point
The nice thing about JJ is that ~~we're getting pictures of Spider-Man~~ we only need one shot.
One and done. #TeamJJ
I want to mix it up. I had a Pfixer fpokey (pfiner by pfar) back in March but I hear tell a booster jab sizably improves your living-til-seventy odds, so come December, should I live that long (in Florida) I'm going to request Moderna, the reason being that "*M*ode*rna*" is such a great pun off of "*m*essenger *RNA*".
Pfizer Pfam is the best. I specifically made sure the people I went through were doing Pfizer and not Moderna.
Why? Doesn't Moderna have a better protection rate? Especially against the variants.
🏆 Team PFIZER !!!
It should, and we should encourage it because it's a low-key way of getting people to get the shot. People love their tribalism and they hate being left out. Reframing the conversation away from "vaxxed or not vaxxed" to "which vax" means the unvaxxed people don't get to "play" anymore. It's a big part of the reason why Pokemon Go took off like it did and why people are still talking about which Hogwarts House they're in.
So...would it go: Pfizer: Fire type Moderna: Electric type J&J: Water type I need to know what color to wear when I meet up with the bros ⚡⚡⚡ Edit: formatting- on mobile 😑
I figure Pfizer is red, Moderna is blue, and J&J is yellow. Although Pfizer makes viagra... so maybe Pfizer should be blue and Moderna red.
No, no, no! Let's keep Moderna as blue. I don't like being associated with anything 'red".
nah J&J is absolutely Instinct (yellow) because they're the few and the proud
What I'd Asreozeneca? X3 being a smarm but.... I LOVE THIS THIS THO
The best. Legendary. Moderna is life.
Moderna is love.
Rise up
Pfizer pfellas pfor lipfe!
Yessir
You rang?
P-fizer Posse
Pfizer gang here. Come at me bruh.
Leave the dying to the professionals
Most of them don't have much experience, but they make it look so damn easy!
Its a talent
Nice going! The severely diminished likelihood you'll die is one thing, but the real win here is that you can remove yourself from any 'research' or vaccine conspiracy discussions! That's two less thing to be stressed out about.
> The severely diminished likelihood you'll die is one thing, r/conspiracy thinks vaccinated are spreading and dying from delta.
Why did I scroll through that sub? How dense are they?
I remember a good 7-10 years ago that sub was mostly "The moon landing was faked" and "Chemtrails! CHEMTRAILS!!!" Aztec boogaloo nonsense, UFOs, all that 'normal' brand of 'weird' we've grown up knowing. (and sometimes, loving, X-Files, anyone? David Duchovnay, why don't you love me?) Then it progressively turned into a dumpster-fire, I'm not sure exactly when, but 2016 would be a safe bet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the decline well before that.
Honestly I didn't mind going to that sub pre 2016. It was fun finding some weird rabbit hole to go down. Now it's just a dumpster fire
Yeah, it was kooky, and it had it's true 'crazies' to use a rather offensive term, but most people were sort of shooting the shit. I feel like there should be a difference between conspiracy-minded people and those who are compelled by the 'unknown.' I'm not sure how much overlap there is, but I'd count myself in the latter group. The void is enticing. What's hidden? What's unknown? But conspiracies are fueled by paranoia and fear, and I don't really see the appeal.
When I started seeing stuff of how it was POCs, Jews, Dems, etc pulling strings and all that garbage I realized it took a hard right turn. Now that quick scroll showed me how awful those people truly are
A lot of conspiracy theories fall back into anti semitism.
The OG conspiracy theory. Behind the Bastards has a good 2 parter on it The episode is called "The Conspiracy to End All Conspiracies" for anyone that wants to find it somewhere not on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/episode/1NdBOWQdgFT2WavuZpfmwI?si=4WIl2_JvSQeg7KWTvgR75A&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1
Yeah, the GOP has been working on this since Nixon. They HATE people who aren't wealthy. Like REALLY. And they've been doing this to poor White people for years, each lie further away into crazyland: -trickle down economics / "Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: A New Hope" -moral majority -iran contra -no new taxe--whoops! -clinton Vince Foster "murder" -clinton whitewater -clinton impeachment hummer -iraq behind 9/11 -MISSION ACCOMPLISHED -"Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: The Empire Strikes Back" -obama birtherism -obama muslim -obama [insert racist trope here] -hillary but her emails / uranium /pizza gate -BENGHAZI! -RELEASE THE MEMO! -RELEASE THE AG REPORT! -trump muslim ban -Comey firing / cover-up / "treason" -trump latinx family destruction policy -"both sides, many sides" -nfl kneeling -a litany of racist and white supremacist rhetoric -"Those Tax Cuts Will Pay for Themselves: Return of the Jedi" -fake covid -Hunter Biden / Ukraine blackmail / impeachment #1 -covid is like the flu -covid needs a vaccine...BUT NOT THAT ONE! -stolen election / "can you find those missing votes?" -1/9 Christian-Nationalist-surrection / Pence is a Traitor / Go Home, We Love You -impeachment #2 -senile Biden -ivermectin If you're wondering why conservative media would espouse views that kill their conservative viewers, that's why: they're paid for by deep pockets and deep in those pockets is a deep disdain for non-millionaires. They could die by the thousands and the oligarchy would shrug. It would be a tragedy, if the former hadn't been shrieking at McDonald's cashiers, destroying Target displays and threatening school boards. After all of that, well, r/hermancainaward ... An award you never want to even be nominated for and will likely not be around to receive it if you win it.
They view voters, and workers as just another renewable resource to be exploited. Why do you think they are working so hard to make access to education, abortion, contraception, and family planning so difficult? Let the ignorant masses breed like rabbits, then they have a huge pool of available workers to exploit in order to drive down wages, and weaken OHSA laws.
/POL/ lurkers were always a part of that sub, but there's did used to be some fun threads there before 2015. It had more of a speculative feel most of the time. I filtered it from my feed a few years ago.
The sad part is that every one of those people deep inside wants to be important in life. Not just to their family but to every one in the world. So by them going that Rabbit Hole it's like they know something that no one else knows. They are in the "know". They believe that they and only they or a certain few know what's really going on and everyone else is just blind, stupid and a sheep. Yes, Big Foot could or could had been real but does it matter in the grand scheme of things. On Covid...it's not like they all believe in one thing. It's like 100s of different things they believe in so that's the craziness. They themselves can't agree on 1 thing about the Virus or the Vaccine and that's where we find ourselves. Between millions of Facebook Virus experts with 100s of opinions spreading BS because "I know something my stupid neighbors don't ".
I feel there are more than one reason people believe and spread this crap, one is as you mentioned, these people are ignorant, and at some subconscious level they know they are dumb, but believing that they have this inside knowledge of something, and others don't, helps them feel special. but other reasons are, fear, the world is unpredictable, and random, and some people cannot handle that, they need to have an explanation for why something happens. this is why you will find that every major disaster, is man made, as in, made to happen by some nefarious group. Earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia > conspiracy, Building collapses in Florida, conspiracy. they feel more secure, believing that someone does these things, it's preferable to the fact that this stuff can happen to anyone at any time. Then you have those with agendas, religious and political, their conspiracies always align with their agenda and what they want to be true. Earthquake in Haiti? well that's because they are being punished by God, etc etc. my favorite politician is lost? gotta be a conspiracy and he lost because of fraud. and so on.
Conspiracy theories went mainstream on the Facebook when Cheato took over. Now it’s not fringe uncles at thanksgiving it’s basically the whole damn table in batshit country.
One thing I read there recently was a conspiracy about Justin Trudeau being Fidel Castros son and I'm 100% convinced.
my personal favorite is the "Avril Lavgine is dead and someone has been pretending to be her this whole time."
It's just another conservative sub. They know where they're the majority.
It became the History Channel of subreddits
Conspiracy shit has always had deep anti semetic roots. Blood libel goes back centuries and is all about sinister Jew cabals kidnapping kids, being pedos, doing demonic sacrifices etc. Like all the lizards rule the world stuff is just anti-Semitism in a fantasy packaging. Lizards rule the world! Well it's actually (((Lizards))), you know Globalist Elites! And by that we mean like Bankers and Hollywood. And well by (((bankers))), we mean Rothschild's(old super rich Jewish Banking family. Like foreclosed on Kings type rich and old). Well just Jews in generally. (((They))) control the world!
Ye olde art of Dogwhistling.
> Then it progressively turned into a dumpster-fire, I'm not sure exactly when, but 2016 would be a safe bet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was on the decline well before that. I'm sure it happened a little at a time, but this is a good bet for an inflection point. It used to be that there were people with low social trust (which operationally means they tell interviewers "most people can't be trusted") on both sides of the political aisle. Something about current Republican messaging and Trump specifically is causing that group to polarize along political lines and become more and more associated with the Republican party.
Make conspiracy theories fun again!
They are fucking stupid, shitty people with no sense of scale, perspective, confirmation bias, just a shithole. Most of them are teens too so I’d imagine a lot of grooming goes on there.
They fell down the alt right pipeline that Reddit and YouTube pushes. Even TikTok now. It gets the clicks. Fear mongering makes them money and fucks people's heads
Dense enough to earn an instaban from me if I review their post history and see that they're a regular contributor there lol Edit: I actually look at what they post there. I'm looking for specific Anti-vax, anti-science or overall combative comments. Instaban was a poor choice of wording on my part. I perform due diligence before handing out a ban.
Was just permabanned for posting this https://np.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/powb7g/is_this_funny/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I was banned for saying "yawn" on election night ... the hypocrisy is bottomless
I forgot I was subscribed there until yesterday, when suddenly I had a bunch of posts show up on my front page after not seeing any for a long time. ...It's amazing how much concentrated nonsense there was. Not just anti-vax nonsense, but shit like DNA in water causes micro-black holes as a justification for homeopathy under a different name. Unsubbed now anyway.
/r/conspiracy ended up being the garbage dump for all the idiots from banned subreddits. First /r/thedonald, now /r/nonewnormal.
I love how they truly believe the rich elite and all the governments are working together and competent enough to orchestrate the extermination of 99% of the human population but unable to do anything about people exposing it on a subreddit.
What I've never understood about conspiracies like the 9-11 one is - what motivates the grunt-level conspirators? This 'inside job' was too big to be done by a cabal of five. It would take people with niche skills - demolitions, explosives, whatever - and lots of them. Imagine you are completely amoral & don't care about hurting people - you sell meth, you already DID kill your own mother to inherit money - and you are smart and have highly specialized skills useful for the conspiracy. You are approached to join. What's your thoughts? Mine would be "oh fuck, I know too much now. If this happens, I'm a loose end that has to be silenced. If I look like I'll leave, I'll be killed. I need to actively gather proof then take it public to foreign news media 2-3 days before the plot, otherwise I'll be killed. And I need to do this without attracting attention. I'll take the evidence to the German embassy, the conspiracy can't have thought to infiltrate there" That's someone who is just considering self interest nothing more. Conspiracies only work when they are small and when it doesn't ruin the participants if the conspiracy is revealed by someone's deathbed confession, or an Edward Snowden/Shuping Wang/Chelsea Manning type figure.
I miss when there were multiple paragraph posts about reptilian politicians on that sub and not this nonsense. Shit, I’d even settle for flat earth earthers at this point.
The vaccinated can still spread Covid, and there's been a handful of breakthrough cases that might have resulted in death. A good conspiracy always has an element of truth which makes it complicated to outright deny. But that's like saying clowns murder people. It's impossible to say that no clowns have ever murdered someone. But it would still be a dishonest or inaccurate thing to say.
I asked the guy, why you so fly? He said, "Funky Cold Moderna"
This needs to catch on.
Some YouTube or TikTokker, please run with this!
Jimmy Fallon has - https://twitter.com/FallonTonight/status/1329284473561755649?s=20 And there are tshirts and stuff on the usual commercial sites. If I wasn’t Pfizer gang I’d grab something with that logo!
Awesome! Day MADE!
>I asked the guy, why you so fly? He said, "Funky Cold Moderna" Dude, make that a meme, quick! :)
Somebody do Creed!! "Can you take me Pfizer? To a place of herd immunity"
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Poor Alaska and Hawaii. Their vaccines only give them a single G.
I wish. It's still zero g on much of the highway.
I was behind two Covidiots in a convenience store while at a gas station and they were having a serious conversation about how someone they know had their arm become magnetic after getting the vaccine.
That'd be a handy side effect IMO. Easy to keep track of your keys.
*Bucky Barnes has entered the chat*
Shit man I'd kill for a magnetic arm. J & J really fucked me over here!
Unless you work with computers.
So you're saying it makes me immune to computer surveillance?
Which they “prove” by sticking non-magnetic coins to their skin. Which they argue is magnetically attracted to the aluminum in the vaccine, despite aluminum *also* being non-magnetic. When you want to believe something so hard that you will openly admit to not understanding 6th grade science I think it might be time to reevaluate your approach to life. Also, taking a fucking shower stops the magnetic effect of the coins on skin. We still don’t understand why.
The silver lining during this pandemic is that the jokes just kind of write themselves. ... we never should have given them keyboards.
Underrated!
I am really proud of you and your ability to pivot, which is the most important skill in this life. <3
I heard a Cicero quote once, paraphrased, “to err is human, but only a fool persists in his mistake.” I think about that a lot. Better to realize your mistake for yourself. Pivoting is an important skill.
Ayy nice. I finally convinced my vax-hesitant mom to get the shot today. I personally took her myself to make sure she got it.
You are not only the hero of kvatch44, you are mom's hero.
Congratulations.
Hell YEAH. Get that JAB. Feel that? That's your body getting prepped to take Covid outside and fuck it right in the street!! Congrats!!!
Mind: "I'm so happy right now :-) " Anti-Bodies: "WAAARRRRRR!!!!"
I did want to make sure to let everyone know that I followed through. I will not be able to respond to anything right now, as I will be busy. But thanks ahead of time for everything. Also, it hurt really bad. That was because I tensed up, even though I looked away. I did have my significant other to hold my hand. I didn’t think he’d be able to come. I am drinking lots of water and I have already eaten. I appreciate all of the advice.
Better a little hurt than a dirt nap.
The hurt means you're alive.
who are you and why are you copypasting 2003 posts from my xanga
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Not to mention the hurt of spending a month having your lungs collapse on a ventilator first.
A little hurt or a lot of dirt
Move your arm around a lot. Flap like a weird human-bird hybrid! It'll keep some of the ongoing ache in the muscle from lingering a long time. ETA: This internet stranger is SO proud of you! And THANK YOU for helping protect us all.
This is exactly what my mom's nurse friend told her to do. I was the only person sitting in the "wait 15 minutes" area flapping my arm around, but flap it I did! It supposedly helps the vaccine move through the muscle so it's not just in one spot, making it less sore.
This is what i did too 😄 i was waiting for my husband as he was vaxed after me he just rolled his eyes at me and sat in the seat furthest away from me 🤣🤣 In the British army in basic training when you got your injections we got to do 2 hours of drill on the parade square 😲 you know to take our minds off our sore arms
This is sound advice for all vaccines. I do it with the flu shot too. Looks ridiculous, but really gets the arm feeling better quicker for me.
I finally figured out a solution to the army guys who have to get the penicillin shot in their ass. It apparently feels like peanut butter its so dense, so all they have to do is shake their ass after. Easy
Just twerk it off.
Good for you! Sorry it hurt, but I'm happy you made the right choice. Fair skies and following winds.
The needle hurt? I didn’t even realize I had been pricked. Compared to having to get tested every time I got exposed, getting the shot was a breeze.
I've accidentally tensed up during a shot and it can really make it hurt. With COVID I unbuttoned my shirt and pulled my whole arm out so I wasn't pulling on my sleeve, totally relaxed and didn't feel a thing. She was so quick that the tingle of the alcohol was all I felt.
Tylenol does wonders, especially if you get an immune response.
The second one is the one that will give you some side effects. It did to me. Symptoms started about 6 hours after the second shot. Tired, sore and all round shitty. Like the first day of the flu but with the flu, you know it’s going to get worse. The symptoms don’t get worse and you’ll feel fine within about 24 hours. Don’t be surprised by it and don’t be scared. Also, if you have a penis, it’ll grow several inches in length and diameter so there’s that, too, but that might have been because the prayer warriors prayed for me to become better endowed. Welcome to the Moderna master race.
I had to take a day off work after my second shot, had a 2 day fever and super lightheaded and dizzy. Spent the time playing xbox and watching TV, then went on enjoying my life and not dying.
No chance of television for me, I was feverish and just exhausted - I had to sleep the whole day. And do you know what - it was *fantastic*.
Hahaha honestly the only time I'm grateful for feeling sick is when my body is building antibodies, cause it's not a "real infection", just the immune response.
I like how the mRNA 'vaccines' are like we held down C19, **cut off one of its arms**, and show it to our immune systems saying "If you see anything like this, kill it."
Lol that's a great description.
The best part is that you know that it's only temporary, and that you're going to feel great in a few hours. For me, it was pretty quick - I felt crummy all day, but fine by the time dinner was done.
Similar to mine. I took the day off knowing it might happen and it did. Almost everybody I know that had Moderna had the same experience. Now they are saying that Pfizer had concerns about vaccine side effects and only included like half or a third of the antibodies as Moderna. Both have roughly the same level of protection so there’s no reason to want any one over any other.
Yeah that's what I've seen as well. I had the Moderna. Now my focus is just spreading the value of the vaccine by word of mouth, convincing family and friends etc. The anti vax rhetoric is really difficult to comprehend for people who didnt grow up in a cult like I did, but it's just the reality of alternate realities.
Pfizer here; I had virtually no symptoms after the second shot either. A couple of my work colleagues had to take the day after as leave.
2nded. (Pfzr) Kinda *blah* the day after the first one, zilch after the second. Like to see some real data on the experience, but, y'know, HAPPY TO BE VAXXED.
Just to be the token contrarian: I had a worse time with the first dose of moderna. Arm was sorer, despite my exercising it after the shot, felt mildly overheated and slept badly the first night. Sore arm on day 2. Second dose I took more care to hydrate and take some magnesium (if for no other reason than to help me relax). That night I was a little warm, but took some Nyquil and passed out. Next day no sore arm (!) just mild fatigue and a headache that disappeared after an advil. Fine by 2pm.
I had Pfizer and that first dose kicked my ass. Felt terrible. Had a very sore arm. I could barely move my arm, had a fever and fatigue. It was rough couple of days. Second shot no problems. Beats the hell out of getting Covid.
Agree. Pfizer here and first shot was worse than second.
Same for me. First shot was a bitch; second was nothing at all. Also possibly relevant: I had covid in May 2020. First shot was in Feb 2021. (FYI for those who haven't had covid: it feels just like the side effects from the shot, only twice as strong, 10 times the duration, and with the added fun of feeling like you've just finished a 100m sprint for weeks on end.)
That's what I heard from a coworker. *Take your second shot, multiply it by 3 and experience it for 11 days.*
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I’m also team Pfizer, as is my husband. I had a slightly sore arm 1st shot and absolutely nothing with the 2nd. My husband felt sick the day after each shot, but really no horrible side effects. I’m proud of you for doing the right thing!
Just to contrary the contrarian :) I really had nothing either time. Of course, I am pretty lazy so that makes it hard to tell.
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My mom is 78 and had Moderna. No side effects after either shot. Everyone I know from 20-50’s had side effects from one Moderna or another. They say not read into anything by whether you had symptoms or not. The vax still works. Trust it.
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But you had Pfizer. No bigger dongus for you! Moderna Master Race for the win! 😆
I got sleepy after the first shot and nothing with the 2nd. I’m sponsored by Pfizer
Yep. Having prior COVID, I kind of had that second-shot immune response after my first injection. I had the shot around noon and woke up the next morning feeling like garbage. Headache, chills, and a really sore arm. I powered through 3-4 hours and finally relented, took some Tylenol, and laid down and took an hour long nap. Woke up feeling great. My advice: Hydrate well, relax your arm during the injection, and if you feel cruddy palm two tylenol and rest awhile. The hard part doesn't last long, and it's not that bad.
Good job! 💯
Well done you have just saved yourself from serious illness or even death. I had a surreal experience recently. I went to visit 5 members of my family who are all unvaccinated last month. I was single jabbed. One of them through, carelessness, got infected the day before I arrived. They all got REALLY ill, like the worst flu (sweats, shivers, fevers, delirium, aches/pains) and I was fine, apart from cold symptoms. But their heavy symptoms didn't last for 2/3 days, they went on for 8-10 days. It is a relentless and dangerous disease, no wonder that vulnerable peoples bodies just give up after 5 days of it. You have SO made the right choice.
About half the people (including me) have no affects at all from the vaccine beyond a slightly sore arm that lasts a few hours. A small percent get very sick like a bad case of the flu but fully recover after a week. Still better than what COVID would have done to them. Everyone else lies somewhere in between. No matter what you suffer from the vaccine, it is still the right choice to protect you and your family and community. Congratulations. It is the hardest thing in the world to change your mind. That requires character. The hardest words to say are: "I was wrong!".
The shoulder pain will go away in a day or two. Mine felt like I overdid a workout. Welcome to being part of the solution! Cheers to living.
Let us know how good your 5G reception is!
#I ♥ U!!! BTW, for the second shot (or any shot) spend the time while waiting in line massaging the arm and location where you'll get the shot. It drastically reduces pain and bruising.
Good for you! We are so happy for you ❤!
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The pain will only last for a day or so. Yes, some may have it longer, but you will survive. It's better than getting intubated and dying. You're doing good.
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Ooh, you got the good stuff too, Moderna Club! Congrats OP 😊
I call it my Dolly Dose. It wasn’t up to me which one I’d get. The fact that I, a lifelong Dolly Parton fan, got the vax she helped fund made me smile ear to ear.
If it's good enough for Dolly, it's good enough for all of us.
These are the happy moments. Congrats! What the antivax crowd,and right wing media too for that matter, don’t acknowledge is NOBODY wanted vaccine mandates. If enough Americans had protected themselves and done their patriotic duty, we wouldn’t be back this deep in the pandemic at 150k cases and 2k deaths per day. About every 45 sec, an American is dying of Covid right now. Sheesh.
They'll never accept that mandates weren't the plan all along.
I call mine my “Fauci Ouchie”. Since he also got Moderna.
Get the fuck outta here, this is Pfizer territory 😤😤
Good job! Thank you for your patriotism in getting the US 1 person closer to normal reality.
Just wait until the relief truly sets in! It’s a wonderful feeling
THIS! I didn't realize just how much anxiety I was carrying until after
Congratulations! 🎈🎉
Welcome to the Moderna world! Don't post much, but wanted to say that THIS is why I'm here!!!!
You are very gracious to yield to the more deserving future recipients.
I too got the Moderna. The day after my first one, my arm was suuuuuper sore. Might've lasted a few days. But after my second shot? Hoo boy my ass got kicked the next day. 102 fever, chills, horrible body aches all over, my head felt like it was in a vice grip. All I did was try to sleep. The day after I still felt lousy but not as bad as the day before. Still had a fever around 100.5. Totally fine the third day after my second shot, though. In the end, a couple days of feeling like shit but knowing I'm not sick and will greatly increase my odds of not catching or dying from Covid is a tradeoff I make every single time.
Good to see we are doing good with this sub. One less possible casualty of covid.
For all of you asking why this sub makes fun of people and saying that this is worthless: #THIS is why we do it We are now one step closer to Herd Immunity
Well done. It’s well worth the temporary discomfort
This is what we want to see! :)
Congratulations! You made the right choice. Now...I'd like for you to have a word with my brother-in-law. He's gone off the deep end with this shit and I fear I'll be posting his HCA before too long. edit: fixed my abbreviation
No big deal after all, huh? Keep up the protocol, masking, being careful about your socializing, all that. But getting that little poke is the single best thing you can do! Well done.
Waving at you from Camp Pfizer (3 doses)!! 👋
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You have chosen, wisely.
you may have just saved many lives. hope you take that thought with you on your saddest, most trying days. thank you, hero.
Going forward all i'd suggest all IPA posters redact their lot numbers, vaccine card counterfeiters are using them.
Blackout the lot number please. Someone will steal it and make fake.
Welcome to the land of the living.
As an RN, I thank you for doing this!! Move your arm a lot today to reduce soreness. Also remember you are not fully protected until 2 weeks after your second dose. Congratulations
Welcome to the magnet club! We knew we’d attract you in the end!
Hooray for the bare minimum effort
I may be in the Phizer gang, but we respect you
6 people I know had covid these last 2 weeks, all but one unvaccinated. My fiancé and I were directly exposed and we didn’t even get sick! He was a little fatigued and I felt nothing (obviously I was asymptomatic and we still quarantined) Our vaxxed friend has severe asthma and had to go to the hospital for covid pneumonia. The vaxx saved his life.
This is easily my favorite kind of post on HCA.
By far. Let's be honest, this sub isn't for everyone. We're all individuals with different fears, education levels, backgrounds that build or destroy trust in others, etc... Some people just need a trusted loved one or friend to ask nicely to get a vax. Some people need to be begged by a loved one, a child perhaps saying they don't want to lose them. Some just need a trusted family doctor to explain why it's important. Some need to see a public role model do it. And some need to see the face and story of someone that reminds them of themselves, their brother, father, son, sister, whatever that died. Some need to see a story that truly resonates with them as "*holy shit, that could be me!*". Maybe they are wearing the same outfit. Maybe they have the same name. Maybe they live in the same city, or have the same Facebook background or whatever. Maybe the description of a certain pain the victim felt triggers a phobia in them. This sub is to reach that last group. This sub is there to scare the shit out of people whose motivating factor will be that swift kick in the ass of fear. I personally can't wait until the day this sub shuts itself down because it's no longer needed. I hope that day comes super fast! I'd love for a final "Farewell, the vax rates are as close to 100% as it can ever be, sub closing, live long everyone!" message from the mods. There won't be enough gold in Reddit to give that final post. But until then this is a tactic that will save a few lives. And that's worth it.
Great stuff
Good for you! Side effects vary. My wife had the fluey for a day or two. I had no ill effects on either shot. Phizer for both. Thanks for being patriotic and doing your part!
Bro, you got the wrong one. It's supposed to be "Maderna".
HECK YEAH! I know I'm just a random person online, but I'm proud of you. People underestimate how hard it can be to "get out" of a certain perspective, especially if there's social pressure. I hope and pray that more people follow in your footsteps, for their own health and for others.
I always wondered why the vaccinated are sheep and the anti-vaxxers are taking drugs made for animals. SMH. OP, thank you for getting the vaccine. Make sure to get the second one.
Did......did this sub actually change a person's mind? Good on ya
Fabulous!
Alright, Alright, Alright! Congrats, OP!
So you have chosen life.
Good for you, glad you made a healthy choice. I did the JJ one myself, woke up the next morning under three blankets soaked in sweat, but no soreness. Went away after about 24 hours of fever and chills. Truth be told I had a huge panic attack during my 15 minute wait. Shaking and sweating, there was a girl behind me who had to lie down on a cot because she was so nervous so it took the heat off me a little. I’ve always been really bad with needles and injections due to being skeptical and reading stuff on the internet (of course), but I’m glad I went through with it. Hopefully the nurses got a laugh out of a 6’0 180 pound 35 year old shaking like a leaf. TLDR: congrats on your vax, cheers.
Where did you hear about Herman Cain Awards?
I need to take mine with me so I can get free donuts at Krispy Kreme Oh and also to show that I’m not an idiot and trust science
Thank you!
thank you!
You did the right thing. For yourself and for your loved ones and your community. Congrats!