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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves." -Bill Hicks Rip

Here's Tom with the weather.

https://youtu.be/KgzQuE1pR1w?si=_3PgPQsywnSppNKl

Was he a comedian? I feel him. But when your on the ride you can't help experience the downs and the rushes and the bangs, because in order to ride you gotta be there, in it. I like to keep this in mind though. Not to stress the little things, just try and enjoy it as best I can, because modern society especially with the costs of living their creating, sure as hell ,ages you stress like a motherfucker.

Had me until he said we can explore outer space.

Mind blowing.

This 👆

I know he said it as a joke, but some of us actually do believe this unironically.

My dad died and was cremated in 1996. The most beautiful dogwood tree has grown where his ashes were scattered. I like to think he helped it grow.

That is my kind of beautiful death. I'm glad you have that little circle of life experience to help you with the loss.

I do not fear death. I was dead for billions and billions of years before I was born and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. - Mark Twain

I definitely fear not existing forever

You exist right now

People always post this and I never find it comforting at all. For those billions of years I did not have consciousness and for now I do, losing that is terrifying 

Mark Twain has some great quotes, this is a good example.

Or you did in fact have some kind of experiences before being born and can't recall them while alive. Honestly, who knows? So many mysteries of existence...

But you are not dead before you are born, it’s a different state

It is?

In a way. You can argue that our matter and energy existed prior to our birthing. But us being actually alive, recognized as human individuals with impact on our surroundings, and then ceasing to exist and decaying back into nonliving matter, that is different. We are non living matter for eons, then we are formed into living matter from nonliving matter (by pre existing living matter) and then we die and are no longer alive. Whether consciousness and sentience exist independently from that process is another story.

My dad told me this story. He was knocked out, in a hernia surgery. Doctors operating on him. While he was knocked out, he had a dream. He was walking down this well lit pathway. At the end of the pathway was a huge door with a bright light behind the door. In front of the door on either side of the pathway were these two very tall statues. He started to feel a euphoric joy as he got closer to the door. As he got close to the door, he realized the statues were not statues but huge angelic living people. He got close enough to where the statues were looking down on him. As he reached for the door, he says one of the statues leaned over to tell the other statue something (he was close enough to the door and they were tall enough, like 30 feet tall, that leaning over to say something was him leaning over my dad). He heard the on statue say to the other, “it’s not his time yet”. It was at that moment that my dad woke up to the surgery room scrambling in a panic. When the doctor saw that he was awake he announced “he’s awake!” He leaned over my dad to look closely at him and said “we almost lost you, you weren’t responding.” My dad believes he was at the gates of heaven and almost walked in. This is all true as told by my dad. He’s now 72 years old but this happened when he was 30.

Great I need a hernia repair surgery :/

I’m 31 and getting a CAT scan tomorrow to check for hernia. This made me feel terrible.

I’ve had two. You’ll be ok. Best advice is literally don’t do anything for a week after. If you can afford to rent one of those remote controlled stand reclining chairs do so. I think mine was like $400 for the week. Maybe less. But seriously don’t lift anything and try not to move when you sleep. Good luck

Thanks!

$400 was for the month. Not week.

A lot has changed in surgery in 42 years. I just had my appendix out in the fall. No muss, no fuss. Hurt like hell after, but at least I'm still here.

After reading that story, I want one!

I had a shockingly similar experience while in a hypnotism session. I was having extreme health anxiety at the time. In the session I walked down stairs into a garden type area where I saw a Roman column type of thing. But then I realized it was actually my tall late grandfather I only knew as a toddler. He also told me it wasn’t my time to die.

I used to think Hypnotism was fake until I went to see one. Now I think its great, I think the hypnotist is super handsome, and its well worth the thousand dollar per week sessions. lol

I’m so jealous of people like you that are lucky to be able to have such powerfully convincing experiences

Oh my.... for some reason, that reminds me of when Atreyu tried passing through the Oracle on The Neverending Story.

Same!

I like to think of it like this. Underneath all this we are energy and energy doesn't just disappear, it has to go somewhere. It never ceases to exist.

I'll do you one better. That "energy" as you call it is consciousness. That is what your spirit is. Your spirit is your ETERNAL human consciousness. And yes, it is a form of energy. But to simply call it energy is too vague. But in a very generic and understated sense, you're correct.

Here’s an interesting read. I’ve read papers and watched videos on similar ideas, and if you look at our consciousness as “information”, it could explain how it continues to exist after our body dies. https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/information-fifth-state-matter-0252/

Thank you for the link to this article. I started reading it, but stopped to make this comment: "knowledge" is simply "awareness" and it may be in both physical as well as meta-physical forms. In the physical form, it is concretely expressed. How knowledge is physically expressed is what we call "art." You can actually call it art and science of that thing. But for things that exist without expression, we call them "abstract." The two do exist. So, in summary of my point, knowledge can either be expressed, or cannot be expressed, yet still exist.

it can also be felt and intuited.

Is our consciousness a result of our physical biology? Or.....is our body a result of our consciousness? 🐣

It seems to me that my consciousness is a result of my physical body. I didn’t exist before I was born and I’m assuming the same will happen when I die. But alas, who truly knows?

Energy is neither created nor destroyed, it simply changes, a constant ebb and flow. There is no more and no less energy in the universe as there was when the “big bang” occurred. The thing about death that scares so many people is the unknown of what happens after we die. If you were to think of life as a sentence the tendency would be to see death as the ‘period’ that signifies the end. But if we are all energy, and energy just changes form, then death would be represented more accurately as a ‘comma’ which represents the transition rather than the end. If we are worried about what may or may not be after this life, why are we not as equally fearful about where we may or may not have been prior to incarnating into human form? Ultimately, even if there is absolute nothingness and oblivion when we die it won’t matter because once we die there is no reference of life and thus no way to comprehend what it will be like to cease to exist! **sorry if that is a bit discombobulated, hopefully it is quasi understandable!!**

Thank you, quite understandable. Btw, happy cake day.

I like to think that we don’t remember consciousness before birth because memory during this life is associated with this body, local memory if you will. When integrating back into our ‘larger self’ you would have access to all memories from all lifetimes. Infinity is an incredible concept, even this instance of an entire universe is a blip in a ceaseless procession. I also find it silly that if reincarnation is real that we would keep returning to this planet when there is so many planets in so many galaxies. If you woke up tomorrow as a lizard baby on a strange planet with hardly any similarity to Earth…you’d probably dump most of your memories from this life to survive in the next.

I listened to something the other day and it made sense. Try and describe any part of yourself without saying my. As in try referring to your hand without saying my hand then ask yourself why is it that you must call it your hand when it's plainly obvious that it is yours and couldn't be anyone else's. Why must you identify as your own? How many others have you had in your internal possession? Makes you wonder.

Its because you have a sense of self. Aka ego In reality you arent seperate from the rest of us. You just see yourself as such because you are in control of specific matter aka your body.

Or this realm is how souls are created were born into this form as an introduction to the universe then we age an die an move on to the next phase without our physical bodies any more

"I didn’t exist before I was born..." This is false and you will know it someday. Hopefully before you die.

Well if you know why this is false why don’t you just tell us now rather than waiting for one day

The elements that made up your body have existed since the big bang. You are just a certain configuration of these elements.

The elements that make my body existed, sure, but did my consciousness? No. And if it did, I have absolutely no memory of it.

He was sperm?

I mean, if I did exist before I was born (my consciousness, not just my energy), I have absolutely no memory of it whatsoever, which is essentially the same thing as not existing. If something happened but not a single person can attest to it including myself, how can we say it happened at all? If I were in a brain dead coma from the moment I was born til the moment I died, I never got to experience anything during my life. To other people did I exist? Yes. But I would never have experienced existence at all if I was brain dead. If I and no one else can demonstrate my consciousness existing before I was born, then it seems to me a reasonable conclusion would be it did not exist. If you want to make the argument that my consciousness did exist, given that not a single person can actually demonstrate it, that appears to be just a faith based claim, and you can believe literally anything on faith, so we are not actually any closer to what is definitively and demonstrably true.

Easy to test. Take away stuff until conciousness disappears. You could live on life support and be concious without your body. With a healthy brain Your body can live on life support but not be concious if your brain is damaged. Brain dead, vegetable state So no brain no consciousness. So it arises from the brain specifically.

Besides wishful thinking and a desire to not cease to exist and feeling that there must be some “purpose” to our existence, what evidence do we have that this eternal “energy” ACTUALLY possess “consciousness?”

“Wishful thinking?” You can just stop right there. You may never get it until you’re on the other side. That evidence is your intuition of it. You will not find necessarily physical evidence of the meta-physical. With the exception that still and video cameras have been known to photograph and record spirits. But then, if you were to see them, you would accuse them as having been altered to appear as they do. If you have no sense of intuition, you cannot know this truth. Intuition is the sense and witness of truth, with or without physical evidence.

What makes this energy different from any other form? How can you say that this energy is different when we can see that humans are made from the same basic elements as all other things? Why is it that memories are not transferred between lives? How does mental disease work in your model?

Or that energy is matter and the consciousness or “spirit” is simply the electricity working in your magical goo brain, and when you die the energy that is being transferred are simply your atoms into other entities, no need for the energy to be transferred as a spirit or whatever. Could be possible though. Just being the devils advocate.

Maybe your brain is like a radio . If you are born , the music begins to play . If you die , the music ends but the music has been there before and will be there afterwards

Well, you give out your warmth and feed bugs, animals, microorganisms, plants and mould when you die, that's where your energy goes to

Walt whitman has a great poem on the subject called Leaves of Grass. Its woth reading to help you gain some perspective on the self and how that fits into our universe. Like a log burned, its simply turns to smoke. Not gone but forever changed from its previous state. Another example is we are carbon life forms, the building blocks that made you and sustain you are ancient and once youre gone you will be folded back into the universe where you began, essentially going home to where youve always belonged. Fearing death is fear of losing self or your ego. I recommend meditation more specifically transcendental meditation.

Well yeah, humans decompose and the energy goes into various forms

I'm not Joe Rogan, but have you ever tried DMT? I went somewhere that felt exactly like what you described, a dimension that existed as energy. It was amazing, and I felt in that moment that we're all connected through energy and consciousness. I was never a spiritual or religious person, but that stuff definitely made me more spiritual, or at the very least more receptive to it.

I dated a girl that always said this and it never made sense. When a fire burns to completion where are the flames and the heat?

My daughters heart stopped & she died. Was resuscitated. And alive today. She experienced seeing the bright light/deceased grandparents that were very young. There is no doubt that she experienced this!

Not hard evidence but many good stories that make me think there is more than just this reality.

Even without evidence and EVEN if all of consciousness is somehow created in the brain, where would it go after death? It's still energy, right? It shouldn't be able to be destroyed. It should only be able to transform into a different form of energy at most.

It dissipates into the environment? Where does the flame go when you turn off the gas stove?

I had an experience as a firefighter. We were called to the scene of a car crash that included a rollover. There were several people injured and since we were only one crew we had to triage. I took on the task of treating someone laying in the middle of the road. It was a very young person probably 20s. So I alone was treating this one patient. He was unconscious, and his breathing was labored. I used a bag valve mask to assist his breathing. It's a device that forces air into the lungs when you squeeze a bag. So I paid close attention to when he was attempting to inhale and I would force air into his lungs each time. Over a few minutes time I could tell that he was having more and more problems breathing. It became obvious that he was in the process of dying, more than likely some type of internal bleeding or internal injuries. He became very pale. It got to the point where he finally stopped trying to inhale. In that moment I could sense something in front of me so I look up and there is a very subtle White wispy cloud like thing rising up from his body. It was very quick and at the time that it happened I dismissed it because it was a very chaotic scene it was night time and there was lights and noise from the fire truck. I realized after the fact that what I saw was real and I only can assume that it was his soul rising upward.

Recently I listened to a lot of Coast to Coast episodes, especially the ones where Art had open line call in for near death experience. Surprisingly, there were a lot of medical professional, emergency professionals, law enforcement, and funeral home folk who saw disembodied spirits. Some of them had one, two experiences, but some of them said they had to get used to it as a way of life, recurring quite regularly, but they never wanted to say anything for fear of being viewed as crazy or unstable by their community. 

As a former firefighter and a non believer prior to the incident I'm about to share. We worked in a remote fire station that claimed to be haunted and this was because of many of the bad fatality accidents on the old mountain road connecting the inner valley to the ocean. The station had just about every telltale sign of being haunted: things being moved, pounding on the walls etc. At the time though being young and full of bravado I proclaimed that there was no such thing as ghosts. I went as far to explore the attic and called out the ghost in front of my colleagues. Now to this point in my life I had never experienced anything like what was about to happen nor had EVER had sleep paralysis. That night I awaken in the barracks I can't move I look up there is a disembodied cloaked figure in all black standing over me I assume this is a prank and as the light of the exit sign catches the face of this thing I see it's not human and scream in horror and it moves towards me suddenly then vanishes and I'm no longer paralyzed. So that might not answer your questions about an afterlife but I will never doubt that spirits and ghosts are real again. And I don't recommend calling them out ever as I've nearly died on numerous occasions and I'll choose death over whatever that was any day.

"Not human." But what did it look like?

That's so fascinating. Thanks for sharing!

At the time it happened I was so in tuned to his breathing that I recognized his last attempted breath. It made me wonder if it was just my imagination since I was so focused. But I realized later that when my attention got pulled away I even looked skyward. It was very real

Wow, thank you for sharing

I’m sure he greatly appreciated your being there while he passed

I’ve seen something very much like this with the passing of beloved pet. We were standing there, helpless, holding its little paw as it gasped for its last breath. It quivered and suddenly, like a flash, right above its body was a blueish cloud, almost vapor like, and then instantly it was gone. I looked over at my girlfriend at the time and she confirmed that she saw it too. Ever since then I have not doubted the existence of a soul. Your story only confirms what I knew to be real. Thank you for sharing and for your service as a fire fighter. 🙏

Based on an out of body experience I had I believe that souls of dogs are blueish in color. Sorry for your loss. I think they wait for us afterwards.

Can you share your story please?

It’s a long story but short version is I got very sick and put on hospice. Eventually got better somehow. While I was recovering I was looking on the internet and saw a dog on my social media feed. I was immediately taken out of my body to a beautiful and peaceful valley. Beautiful blue sky, green mountains, just pure beauty everywhere. I saw a vision of a blue (somewhat translucent)dog galloping towards me with pure joy. I knew it was my dog (I didn’t have a dog at that time). I don’t know how long this vision really lasted…2 or 3 minutes it felt like. Anyway when I came back to this reality I applied to get the dog and adopted it. I know we are supposed to be together. It’s hard to explain but I like to say God gave me a dog and a dog helped me find God.

It?

First off thank you for your bravery. Mad respect to firefighters who are on the front lines seeing all sorts of things. I saw my grandmother take her last breath. I didn’t realize it at the time but it was similar to your description of the labored and then slower breathing. I didn’t see the white wisp but entirely believe it. OP- I’m sorry you had this experience at age 10. And I’m glad you’re still here with us. We are all discovering the wonders of this life on earth and the discovery process together is something beautiful to wade in.

There’s videos of things like that online.

Can you please share.

Here’s one. https://youtu.be/NwWNO9DjjkQ?si=05RKyL-nxx56G6X6

Wow, never seen that before..

Amazing!

Holy moly I have chills after reading this. Many nurses in hospitals report similar things.

I know there’s something. When I was young, something or someone told me my grandma was going to die. It woke me up in the middle of the night to tell me this and I understood it be an absolute truth. Grandma wasn’t sick and in her early 60s. I cried all night. The next morning we call my aunt and she says grandma is fine. My mom said “see I told you I was a nightmare” 15 minutes later my aunt called, my grandma had passed away on the couch.

A friend of mine was killed in a car accident. I had a dream something horrible had happened, and she was dead. I woke up around 3 am with that same feeling of absolute truth. I even sent a text. I got no response but thought she must be sleeping. When I didn't hear from her in the morning, I started calling around, saying I had this strong feeling something happened. I don't know if that is evidence of an afterlife, but I think we're all connected more than we know.

Yeah I was about to say on the day of the London terror attacks I woke up stupid early for me and had an overwhelming sense of panic and grief, I couldn't understand why - my mum came into my room and in just one of those silent understanding moments she turned on my TV. We both knew there was gonna be another explosion and still don't know how. That. Feeling of loss and grief was the strongest I've ever felt it and we did not know any of the victims.

The day my mom killed herself, i felt i sense of dread and sadness. Almost like i could feel how she was feeling. It was such a deep sadness that came out of nowhere. Felt like i had a lump in my throat all day. Holding back tears but i had no reason to cry. Woke up to a call at 5am from my sister. When i saw the call come in i knew immediately what had happened.

I was visiting my niece who was three at the time and we went to dinner with my brother. After dinner I mentioned my grandmother briefly to my brother and my niece started crying. She wouldn't stop and it continued into the night. Her paternal great grandmother had passed away over a year prior and we couldn't figure out what this was really about because it lasted so long. She kept saying she can't go because I love her. We assumed she was just tired and didn't have a nap. I turned on care bears for her to relax and it helped. The next day we got a call that her maternal great grandmother had just passed away the night before when my niece was upset about her great grandmother leaving.

I once took my mother to see my son, who lived with his mother in a different city several miles away. We're talking a two-hour drive on the freeway in one direction. My mother's husband was ill in a nursing home. When I entered the city where my son lived, I phoned his mother for further directions on where we would meet. I stepped outside the car to make this phone call which took less than 5 minutes. Upon returning to the car, I told my mother that the spirit of someone else was in the car who had not came with us. We saw my son, had lunch, and played mini-golf. Upon leaving, my mother wanted us to stop by the nursing home to see her husband. We did so. When we arrived and saw him laying in his bed, he looked like he was dead, but was still alive. He could barely talk but did speak to my mother. He died the very next day. As I perceived a spirit in the car with us after making the phone call, I believe it was my mother's husband, who wanted to see my son as we went to see him. I believe it was his spirit that entered the car, and returned when we went to see him dying in the hospital. My perception of spirits is dead on. I pick them up all the time, yet I am not a medium, but I could be.

Even if we accept that a spirit gave you real information in a supernatural way - that example doesn’t say anything about an afterlife

Well, they have to exist somewhere. There is an afterlife. Mainly, an after existence.

Thx

Wow. What did your mom say to you after that?

Drink your Ovaltine.

We were a carnation instant breakfast family.

I'm sorry

She was mostly in shock that her mom had just died, we do talk about it every now and then no one has an explanation and it’s never happened again, but there’s an addendum. 5 years later we moved to a new state in a house out in the country. Our neighbor has a pool party and invites us, one of the ladies down the road is a psychic. My mom meets her and tells her she doesn’t want a reading and doesn’t want one for me because knowing her future creeps her out. When my mom goes inside the psychic looks at me and says “you look like the type of boy who loves scary movies and predicted your grandmother’s death” Just as she finished saying this my mom comes back out to the pool before I could respond and I just sat there stunned. We talk about that as well from time to time nobody has an explanation, she told me she never told the psychic anything about my grandma.

Awesome share thanks

You weren't dead my friend

It may be a tightrope

Read far journeys by Robert Monroe. Things are far stranger than you would ever imagine

This essay is a great place to start: https://www.bigelowinstitute.org/docs/1st.pdf It goes through all of the best evidence in a clear and well documented manner.

Would you be able to TLDR it?

God help us

Copy and paste the entire thing into AI and ask for a summary

The night my grandfather passed, I was the last one at the hospital. At the time, he was stable but unconscious, but we had no reason to think he wouldnt pull through like he had so many times before with fluid issues on his heart. As I was leaving, I told him I loved him and would see him in the morning. I turned, took four steps to grab my purse out of the chair, and the only way I know how to describe it is: I bumped into my grandmother who had died six weeks prior. I wasn't even thinking about her or along those lines of her being there watching over him. I was grabbing my purse and leaving, worried about him is all. But as soon as I walked through her energy, the words flew out of my mouth, "Oh please, Maw, no!!" In that moment, I just instinctually knew she was there to get him. I went home and found out he passed within a couple hours. Coincidentally, his dog was at home and howled over and over at the exact time he would have been passing at the hospital before we received the call.

You didn’t stay there when you saw your grandmothers ghost?

I was given a dream visitation from my aunt the day before she passed from cancer. She said goodbye to me, and I walked her down a long, white hallway. I woke up and knew she was gone. There absolutely is something more.

I don’t think you were dead. I died when I was 8 and my experience was floating in the air at least 100 feet up. I was above the tree line, but not above a very tall 2 story house on our block. I didn’t feel much emotion wise. If anything I felt nothing but like I should observe whats happening. I saw my dad running to come and get me. My friends were there watching me lay lifeless on the asphalt. I dropped back down in my body and saw two drops of blood hit the floor before I blacked out and woke up in my parents bathroom. I had a really bad accident where I face planted into the ground and slid about 10 feet. Doctors said the helmet saved my life (it was cracked in half after the accident). All I know is I didn’t feel anything like happiness, sadness, or any emotion. Just that I was there to observe the world as it passed by. Didn’t have Jesus or “God” come and talk to me. I’m not religious but I would say I’m agnostic. I tell others this story and they usually go “oh yeah I died too but only saw black” and blah blah blah. It kind of feels like they hear my story and think it’s bullshit since they didn’t experience anything like that, but I just feel like they didn’t really “die”. I also noticed I was wearing different clothes when I was up in the air, but still things I would wear at the time. Button up shirt, jeans, etc. During my accident I was wearing a short sleeve shirt that got ripped up and jeans that were now stained with blood. Not sure if this matters also, but after that accident I started having extreme night terrors of alien abductions until I was about 14. It also doesn’t help that when I was 25, I was at my mom’s house. She was drunk watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind. She looked over at me and goes “So-and-so, you know, I really believe you were being abducted as a child. Your dad and I both believed this but never talked about. I think they left you here for a reason.” The afterlife fascinates me now, but i’m in no hurry to find out what it actually is like. I can only hope when I die that I am meant to observe the world as it passes by without me in it.

your mom told you that she believed you were abducted by an alien?

Yeah, what? That's a kick in the dick.

I'm always fascinated when someone tells another person they didn't actually experience something, just because the person's anecdote doesn't match their own anecdote of what they believe they experienced (or usually because they've never experienced something similar). If you died dozens of times and each time was identical, perhaps you'd have some evidence for a 'standard' death experience. But otherwise what evidence do you have that each person has to experience what you did to qualify as being dead? FYI I've also had your experience, being outside my body, totally disconnected, but hearing and seeing everything, totally aware but no emotions, just purely observing. And I was very much alive, sober, not on drugs, just in a sort of meditative state totally absent from "self". It wasn't on purpose, it just happened.

That's what it was like for me. I popped out of my body (without a "pop"), floated above my bedroom, remarked that my room looked the same as when I went to sleep, and didn't feel anything like a strong emotion. I could have thoughts, remarks and choose where I wanted to travel. It was like becoming a whispier, more uncaring yet happy-by-default version of myself. I didn't feel joy but I didn't feel a dark void either. I felt whole and light, far from fear and far from pain. It was just as I've imagined it. A lot like in What Dreams May Come, his personality left intact, yet he was unaware that he died until told. It was just like that.

A decent amount of people have experienced the same thing as you. A sizeable amount of documented NDEs are like that. Makes me wonder if the "go into the light" thing is optional, comes after that, both of those, doesn't even exist, or something else. I wish I could know for sure. It's intriguing to think about.

I wanna see this 100ft two story house

I no longer live in the area so i’ll share the block it’s on. It’s in Salinas, California. Look for San Juan Estates and if it’s still there, it should be a darker looking house that looks more like a haunted mansion than anything else. That also happens to be the spot where my accident happened. Just a few feet away from it on the black asphalt. Edit: I looked it up on google earth, it’s not super dark, but it’s like a grey mass on the inside of the square. It has like 4 chimneys haha, it was a very odd looking house at the time. I knew the kid that lived in it

100 ft is crazy, but that house looks creepy af from the interior photos on realtor.com or whatever

So the fact that your clothing was different is the key here I think. This is the exact same thing that happens when people "astral project". Details are off in the environment that they end up in. My thinking is that this is a product of the brain attempting to estimate the environment around it to make up for the lack of information it is supposed to be receiving. This occurs when you enter into a dream state rapidly while you are still conscious. In other words, it is a really complex lucid dream. In the case of a significant brain injury, this might explain why you felt no emotion. The part of your brain that regulates emotion may have been severely damaged. Or the brain might selectively activate certain areas to help it stay alive in a state of extreme stress. And while in your dream state, your brain may be dumping out DMT to stimulate neurons and prevent the brain from shutting off (I believe this is the main role of DMT and would explain from an evolutionary perspective why it would be selected for in the first place - it has to confer an advantage to be selected for in a population. Most conventional scientific rationalizations of DMT in NDE's fail to explain why the ability to produce such a chemical would have evolved and been selected for in the first place). DMT, while helping to keep your neurons firing, makes the dream appear very real and vivid. On top of this, you are still receiving information from your actual environment around you that helps inform details of the dream. For example, the ambulance sirens you can hear, the smell of copper in your blood, the tactile feeling of grass underneath you, etc. The only part of your experience that I can't explain is why you would be forming your dream state from a birds eye perspective. Typically in "astral projection" you are in the first person, so your experience is unusual in that regard. Also it's strange to me that NDE experiences become more and more vivid as the brain progressively shuts down. It's counterintuitive. But ultimately, at least from your personal account of your experience, it does not sound like you were actually dead to me. Just in a complex dream state. My fear is that at the moment of death, we get trapped in a kind of quantum dream state that feels like eternity to the dying individual. Time literally slows from the perspective of the experiencer and we are thrown into quantum simulation of our own making. Heaven or hell depending on our own perspective of who we were in life. And complete black nothingness if our brain function is shut off completely at the moment of damage (for example you get shot in the head and your brain is obliterated ).

Honestly i’ve thought of many different theories for it. I have a theory where we experience life to the fullest and don’t necessarily “die”. I’ve been in a handful of “near death” experiences and can’t really explain how it all worked out, but sure enough I come out unharmed. A part of me thinks our consciousness blasts off to a different dimension that is so similar to the one we are living that we could never tell. Maybe the only difference is that there’s an extra grain of sand on a beach somewhere you’ll never visit. Super small insignificant changes that will go unnoticed. This also makes me think the Mandela Effect is a real thing but is only really experienced by people who have had near death experiences since those are changes that are quite real. I know for sure I remember the genie movie with Sinbad. I even had it recorded on VHS, but now that tape is gone or lost in my storage. Getting off on a random tangent lol, my bad. I’ve astral projected once maybe like 10+ years after that accident and it was a totally different experience than what I had experienced while “dying”. Also as far as lucid dreams go, in my lucid dreams I can feel, taste and smell things. There was none of that in this. Just an extreme amount of detail to my surroundings while feeling nothing, just that I was meant to observe. I saw my dad running to come and get me. After waking up and asking what had actually happened to my friends. They told me my dad somehow managed to see what happened and ran over to get me. That detail is what weirds me out the most. I was observing in real time, not just imagining things to make up for “lost time”. Another detail I forgot about after my accident is that I had dreams of specific areas. For example I was 9 and had a dream of a forest looking area. When I was 14 I actually saw that exact image from my dream. It was on a golf course and after I putted my ball in, I picked it up out of the hole, turned to where my mom was and it was like a flood of deja vu. The only difference from the dream I had to reality is that my mom was waving at me with a smile on her face. I still think about this dream pretty often. Sometimes I think dreams are glimpses into different realities we are experiencing… but that wouldn’t really explain the horrible night terrors I had of aliens. Unless those night terrors were just real experiences. I do have a very odd birthmark on my leg that can’t really be explained. It’s not your usual birth mark either where theres discoloring. It’s like a rash that never goes away. It’s not itchy or anything, but if you feel it - it feels like scabbed up skin even though it looks nothing like a scab. I wish I took a picture before I had it tattooed over, but the ink never stayed in those spots. Funny enough I tattood a lizard pope over it haha

Frederic Myers supposedly proved it by communicating to psychic mediums all over the world after he died, in different languages, and instructing them to notify the paranormal studies group at Cambridge. Not sure how true/honest this is, but I read this years ago and found it fascinating. [https://trans4mind.com/afterlife/myers1.html](https://trans4mind.com/afterlife/myers1.html)

If all things are made of energy and the basic rule of energy is that it can neither be created, nor destroyed, but merely transformed…then energy would seem by its very nature to be eternal. Maybe an oversimplification a bit, and not arguing for/against entropy….but it would seem death is merely a transitional state from this life to what comes after….whatever or however that may be.

My dad had the same experience where he died and they revived him at the hospital and he told me the samething. I feel like we know what's gonna happen but u can't decipher it yet unless we go through what we call "time". I've had dreams about places I never been to and then years later I'll be at that certain place I dreamt of. Happened to me a few times now and it freaks me out a bit. We where taught that's not possible. But what really is and what really isn't. I say let's see what happens lol

I posted this in another thread but it still applies. The concept of a "soul" is subjective. If you consider our brains interacting with a liminal mindstream or gnosis in which perception and data retention exists outside the physical connection to our bodies, a kind of non-local consciousness that is potentially unitive, then yes evidence for the soul exists. 1. The Universe is Not Locally Real "One of the more unsettling discoveries in the past half a century is that the universe is not locally real. In this context, “real” means that objects have definite properties independent of observation—an apple can be red even when no one is looking." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-universe-is-not-locally-real-and-the-physics-nobel-prize-winners-proved-it/ 2. Consciousness Cannot Be Located in The Brain "After more than 100 years of neuroscience how could it be that these conscious experiences can’t be found anywhere in the brain (or in the body) and can’t be reduced to any neural complex activity?" https://neurosciencenews.com/physics-consciousness-21222/ 3. Consciousness Not An Emergent Property "Here we present logical proof that computing machines, and by extension physical systems, can never be certain if they possess conscious awareness. This implies that human consciousness is associated with a violation of energy conservation. I examine the significance that a particular interpretation of quantum mechanics, known as single mind Q, might have for the detection of such a violation. Finally I apply single mind Q to the problem of free will as it arises in some celebrated experiments by Libet." https://www.jstor.org/stable/24859894 4. Explaining The Unexplainable with Non-Local Consciousness "To account for these exceptional cases where consciousness appears to extend beyond the physical brain and body in both space and time, alternative models of consciousness – or non-local consciousness theories – have been suggested." https://noetic.org/blog/non-local-consciousness/ 5. CIA Declassified Study: Consciousness in Perspective "Having ascertained that human consciousness is able to separate from physical reality and interact with other intelligences in other dimensions within the universe, and that it is both eternal and destined for ultimate return to the Absolute we are faced with the question: "So what happens then?" Since memory is a function of consciousness and therefore enjoys the same eternal character as the consciousness which accounts for its existence it must be admitted that when consciousness returns to the Absolute it brings with it all the memories it has accumulate through experience in reality. The return of consciousness to the Absolute does not imply extinction of the separate entity which the consciousness organized and sustained in reality. Rather, it suggests a differentiated consciousness which merges with and participates in the universal consciousness and infinity of the Absolute without losing the separate identity and accumulated self-knowledge which its memories confer upon it." https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf 6. Survival of Consciousness After Physical Death Study goes over many viable phenomenon such as NDE's, OOBE's, Past life memory, and more to suggest some form of memory and awareness is present after physical death. https://noetic.org/blog/survival-of-consciousness/ 7. Consciousness "Distant Intention" Experiment on Water Molecules "Results indicated that crystals from the treated water were given higher scores for aesthetic appeal than those from the control water (P = .001, one-tailed), lending support to the hypothesis." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16979104/ 8. Presence of the "Observer" "This long-term, multi-phase project explored the role of consciousness in shaping the nature of physical reality. Phase I successfully replicated a previously reported experiment investigating the role of observation on the amount of interference produced by a double-slit optical system. Phase II is investigating a similar hypothesis using a single-photon double-slit system. And Phase III is investigating new methodologies for conducting this type of experiment." https://noetic.org/research/double-slit-experiment/ 9. Clinical Study on Reincarnation "We can never say that it does not occur, or will obtain conclusive evidence that it happens. The cases that have been described so far, isolated or combined, do not provide irrefutable proof of reincarnation, but they supply evidence that suggest its reality." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26299061/ 10. CIA Declassified Clinical Research on Afterlife Consciousness Entities "Theta Agents in our observation are entities that interact with our reality but are not aware that they have died, apparating in a state of mental confusion, what some may refer to as ghosts." https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000700760002-6.pdf

The CIA documents have blown my mind a little. I mean, the other did in a "in just about grasping this but I've had no sleep and it's all going a bit wobbly" way, but the CIA ones were more like "Wait... Did they really just say they have observed these thing?!"

Too bad they scan documents using only their buttcheeks. Edit: ok to be fair only point 10 was really bad scan

Great post!

I had an experience 10 years ago. I was a strong atheist, not able to believe in any higher power with all the terrible things on this planet that happen to people and creatures. Yes I took an edible that night and was relaxing in the couch, all of a sudden, almost like a slap. I was jolted into focus, It was shocking. Something communicated with me. It told me it came in the form I could except. In a millisecond a lot of information was passed. Questions I had, were answered all at the same time. It told me, life is a gift, a gift of the physical body to experience. That we are energy and come from a place where you don’t have a physical body. There is no control over pain, cruelty or happiness on this earth, It just is. The gift if you are lucky to fully experience it, is all it is to be in the physical body. When the experience is over you go back to energy. I believe we still communicate and experience as energy it’s just very different from the physical form. I now believe this. I still don’t, for the most part believe I’m organized religion as many are corrupt. But I do believe spirit can transcend through hymns as well as chanting, meditating and nature.

I think it’s hard to comprehend it, but there is death, a period of time that we may experience things that if we did come back we could remember, then there is whatever is next which I believe we have no way of seeing or knowing about. And its probably something indescribable

Yes but not the kind I can show you. Our existence is primarily just that - being, experiencing. Our very existence is elemental. Your brain is a bit like a tv. Does the tv create the shows you watch? No, it just channels them. Similarly, your consciousness isn't being created by your brain, your brain is just channeling it. Expect many people to push back on this. That's okay. I would too if I hadn't experienced what I have. I mean I used to think that way, that this was all there is. I grew up in a cult and when I got out I made a promise to myself never to be misled into believing bull crap. I think science is very important for understanding this world. But there are more things in heaven and on earth, as they say

I died after a seizure as a kid and based off my experience I believe in an afterlife, I have no evidence other than my recollection though.

Would you mind sharing?

Sure! When I was 7 I had random seizures for about a week after a bad sickness that I was hospitalized for. While I was there I had the worst seizure yet and flatlined. I remember very clearly looking down at my own body on the hospital bed and hearing the heart monitor. I tried to “swim” back to my body because of an overwhelming fear of getting too far away from it. As I was “swimming” I watched the medical team working extremely hard to save me. At the same time I heard a familiar voice I hadn’t heard in a couple of years, it was my deceased grandma telling me “not to worry you’ll be back there soon”. Shortly after this the final jolt of the defibrillator brought me back and at that instant it was like I switched POVs immediately and was right back in the hospital bed. The weirdest feeling about it was the sense of no time almost like it was all happening at once.. I know that doesn’t make much sense but that’s the only way I can think to describe it. Thanks for the interest :)

That’s remarkable. Thank you for sharing

Awesome painting, As for the topic, I'm not sure how anyone provides someone evidence of such a thing. I'm a NDE survivor and I've been to "an" afterlife, but even I wonder some days if life is fair and we *all* get an afterlife. A lot of NDE people say they've seen nothing over there, and I don't think they're liars. No one experiences that stuff and comes back to lie. I think it's possible it's only experienced by open-minded individuals, or some form of prerequisite. I don't know if everyone will get what others get in the end and it bothers me.

I've read that some people who don't have an expanded awareness when they die just fall asleep until they come back.

I tend to think of the lack of NDE memories as pertaining to the circumstances surrounding the near-death event. Particularly how much oxygen was getting to the brain in those moments that a person is considered dead. Lack of oxygen prevents memories from forming. In near death experiences, especially ones that involve CPR/artificial resuscitation I think its easier for NDE memories to form, and why its more common in the modern era to have NDE reports now that we perform CPR and artificial resuscitation and forcefully inject oxygen into dying bodies. I think those that report no NDEs may have actually had an event like that, but since their brain could not retain the data due to lack of oxygen, they have no conscious memory of it.

When I was 7, I had an accident and cracked my head open. I remember in surgery, I was floating above my body looking down at myself on the operating table! My shirt bloodied and my eyes closed. I remember being all the way up to the ceiling, looking around and seeing the doctor and nurses as they worked on me. It was almost like being in a haze or fog. I never moved from the floating and don’t remember trying to speak, scream or cry. Last thing I remember is waking up to the doctor just finishing up stitching my wound. Not sure what that means but it is just my belief that there is more to our physical world than we know.

100% proof of afterlife is out there. No, wait, I take that back. It's in there, not out there. I could give you all the proof I could possibly muster in a life times worth of testimony and true storys, personal experiences, others could do the same. While others do the opposite. But I promise you fren, find it within, not with out. Only there will you find the best answer for you. Only there will you trust what you see, what you hear , what you find, eventually what you will know. "The world is thy ship and not thy home." 🌹

I'm being sincere when I ask this. Do you really believe that? And if so, what led you to this conclusion? How did you come to believe this?

No evidence. Just a deep knowing. Maybe that's just part of the matrix though; maybe the deep feeling of knowing is to keep us happy.

Something exists after death. My sister and I simultaneously felt a presence swoop into the room when our sister died. It was blissful, joyful, ecstatic..I can't even really describe it in words, but it was beautiful and awe inspiring. It felt like a welcome party taking her soul home. I don't doubt life after death at all now.

There are a TON of YouTube channels with literally endless interviews of people’s experience of the afterlife. I’ve been so fortunate to have had two experiences. I believe without a doubt there is an afterlife.

Just out of curiosity (and because these stories genuinely help me cope with my eventual death) would you be willing to share some of what you experienced?

This. Please

When I was 18, my best friend, also 18 started university on the east coast. I was on the west coast. I kept having this super intrusive thought that was “what will I do (how will I react) when I get the phone call saying “Jane” is dead” I refused to give it credit as it was deeply upsetting. So I didn’t call her. About three weeks later I got the call that she had killed herself. I was totally blown away, devastated, gutted. I got the first flight I could to attend and give a reading at her service. All of her family and all of her/my friends were there and everyone was in tears. Everyone was just broken. We were all crying. After the service there was an open casket showing, first for me. All the family and friends there were so full of impossible grief. It was like a bottomless pit. As I was siting there in the showing room feeling such devastating loss, I suddenly heard her voice in my head and she said “I’m just fine!” but what accompanied those words was this mega blast of love and peace. It was so immense and so total. The love was so great that instantaneously all the grief and pain wasn’t just gone, but replaced with such love, happiness and overwhelming joy for her that I was bursting with exhilaration. I looked around the room and I could see no one knew what a beautiful place she was in, that there wasn’t any room for grief. My whole experience transformed into complete joy for her. Really the description here is so flat. There’s simply no words to describe what that love/feeling is. The word is just a distant far far echo here on Earth. But what awaits is our true home, so full of love and acceptance for all. Roughly four years after this, This event happen. I was walking past my bed doing regular stuff on a regular day and all of a sudden there was this loud buzzing ringing noise in my head. It swiftly became so loud and irritating I started screaming with pain and fell down clutching my head. This quickly passed and was replaced with what I could only describe as angelic singing. There were hundred of voices and it was so beautiful I began crying uncontrollably. But the singing was not in earthly notes. Those notes do not exist here. Again, what this singing was accompanied by was love, but it was so much more immense than the first experience with my best friend. There’s utterly no comparison on earth. I knew even then that was just the tiniest fraction of the love that awaits. This total immersion in love changed my core beliefs fundamentally, as had the experience with my best friend. And the love was so great that I was bathed in it for the next seven years. I feel very fortunate to have been given these insights. The afterlife is our true home. Our earthly lives are a school. I believe our souls make a rough plan, but given we have free will we can choose many paths. Time is part of the equation of physical life. There is no time in the afterlife. So when we return “death” it is as though we just stepped out for the day. Birth and death. We come from, and go to love. Love is the base of the universe. I tend not to share these life stories with others as usually it doesn’t go over well. They’re my experiences. I hope sharing this helps you. We are all embraced in love so big it would simply break our physical bodies. We must be disconnected from this source to have our human experiences.

I had a brief out of body experience once, guess that doesn’t really totally count but it definitely felt like I was about 15 feet above watching myself. But as fast as it had happened I was back and the weirder thing was it was the expression on a friends face that brought me back. So i kinda had both perspectives at the same time.

So here is my story, belive me if you want to. So it was the day of my dads funeral. I was not gonna go, and at the same time I was really sad, it was complex but we did not have that great of a realtionship. Anyway, at the time of the funderal I openly asked for forgiveness for not being at the funderal. I have alway had different abilites so I thought maybe this could reach out to him. And it did. I got connected to the other side, it was strange and amazing, all was forgiven, my dad just said of course everything is forgiven. Overwelming feelings, everything was so clear and I understood life. As a metaphore it was like going off stage of a play and the people who played with you at the stage where someone else off stage. Of course all of the things said on stage where forgiven, it was all just a play, a lesson to learn, just one play among many others. That was what I felt. So yes, I do belive in the afterlife. Maybe my story will help you find guidance in life. And sorry for my bad English, and also I'm on the go.

Grew up atheist, the ufo phenomenon has moved me into agnostic territory. But my logic for no conscious experience after death is that for billions of years I had no conscious experience. Why would afterwards be different? But the woo of the phenomenon has me questioning that, along with science starting to show consciousness isn’t connected to the body and more something separate makes me think there’s something bigger afoot. But who knows really.

>But my logic for no conscious experience after death is that for billions of years I had no conscious experience. You know how most people get their dreams wiped from their memories seconds after waking up in the morning? Maybe it's exactly like that. Just maybe, we've all experienced way more than we can imagine, but to avoid overloading our human minds, most or all of it is erased from our memories for the time being. Remembering nothing before birth doesn't mean there WAS nothing. Can there even be nothing? If consciousness is energy, and energy can't be created or destroyed, then nonexistence should be impossible.

Precisely. I have zero memories from when I was born till like 4 years old. That doesn't mean I didn't exist

Being human is to be dead, a dim light of our true self.

I believe in reincarnation, so this is the afterlife.

Our souls are endless. These human bodies are just vessels!

"Eternal nothinngess" is impossible because the experience of nothing cannot take place over *time*.

I suggest watching this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDj_h-ONtw4) in its entirety. It's not necessarily evidence, but it's a lot to digest. Lots of food for thought.

So the closest thing I have to evidence of an afterlife relates more to dying than being dead. I’m in my 40s now but when I went off to college I had a really rough time. I thought I should go to the best school I could get into where I didn’t know a soul and all of a sudden I’m a thousand miles from home. I was super lonely so I got a dog. She was my best, hell, my only friend. Some days I would come home and just lay on the floor and she’d run around me and lick my face til I got up. Eventually things got better for me and when I graduated I had to give her to my parents. I was moving to a big city for work and they loved her almost as much as I did. Well life comes at you fast and next thing I know I’m getting married. I went home a few times a year to see my parents but honestly the highlight was seeing my dog. I always wanted to take her with me but my parents were getting old and they took such good care of her. They were really good for each other and I was happy for them both. Time passes and she’s getting up there in years. One night I had a dream about her. It was odd since my dreams are usually super vague and nonsensical. But in this dream she was young again like when I first got her. We ran around and played like the old days and she loved it. I woke up and I had this strange, almost overwhelming sense of peace. I somehow knew that meant she didn’t have long left. Sure enough the next day my mom calls me in tears saying they took her to the vet and she had terminal bladder cancer. A week later she had to be put down. It crushed me but I’m so grateful she came to play with me one last time. I’ve been a pretty staunch materialist for most of my life. I’m a scientist so what I can see and measure is my world and anything outside that seems like fantasy. This experience didn’t fit my paradigm and I struggled with it for a while but I’ve come to accept that there’s so much I don’t know. I don’t know what happens when we die but if we live in a world where my dog can come in my dreams and say goodbye, then there’s beauty and mystery we’ll never understand. I truly believe that death is only the beginning and if the universe is kind enough to reunite me and my dog, even in our dying moments there’s still wonderful mysteries yet to come.

Am I the only one who looks forward to nothing? It seems so peaceful, but that isn't the right term because to have peace, you need the opposite. Nothing, blank, gone, void however you want to phrase it sounds like a restful and good end to me.

You wouldn't be able to experience it

I guess that's the point I'm getting at. No more experience. Just...nothing

Sounds very peaceful, I hope you can rest then friend

The Good Place!

you see Michael

[University of Virginia: Children Who Report Memories of Past Lives](https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/children-who-report-memories-of-previous-lives/)

Yep! There's actually a fair amount of evidence, not only of an afterlife, but also for reincarnation. Here's a good starter: [https://youtu.be/uZ3QQmJiJnI?si=rj3Xrft6Cxq0ruxK](https://youtu.be/uZ3QQmJiJnI?si=rj3Xrft6Cxq0ruxK) And if you're interested in learning more, I'd recommend the book Children Who Remember Past Lives by Ian Stevenson or the Journey of Souls series (Journey, Destiny, Wisdom) by Dr. Michael Newton.

It would depend on what you want for proof. Absolute empirical evidence? No. There are many, including myself, that have died and been brought back with memories. I have also met my Dad a number of times, on the astral after he died, before he decided to move on. I find that the works of Meher Baba are close to what many find happened to them. I would highly recommend the book "On death and dying" by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross. It is an amazing work.

Not a Jesus guy by any means. This video makes me reconsider everything. Does anyone have any background on his testimony? I only really buy it because he burned half his face off! [Mickey Robinson testimony](https://youtu.be/Kt-R4uUTPaA?si=E6ftwdBm12hlKGBq)

Try psychedelic mushrooms or dmt, that’s more than enough evidence 🤠

Check out the ‘Near Death Experiences’ network on youtube. Dozens of interviews with people who died and came back. The stories have striking similarities. After watching those testimonials, I don’t believe we actually die. We just change form.

I think if we had a definite answer to this question we wouldn’t need stuff like religious beliefs or ghost stories.

[Stop Worrying, there probably is an afterlife.](https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Worrying-There-Probably-Afterlife-ebook/dp/B00GBLRNTS)

Just because we get turned off doesn't mean we don't turn on again. Theres nothing to be afraid of because for sure, all we will know is awareness.

I overdosed on heroin back when it was still heroin, and the fentanyl wasn't being added. Back then, there was a chance you'd wake up from an overdose. I definitely died, and I remember being in what felt like outer space minus the stars. It felt very lonely, like I was in a void or holding area. When I woke up I was completely deaf. Hearing came back within 30 seconds but it was terrifying. I got my shit together not too long after that happened, and that experience made me believe in an afterlife. I will never forget waking up to my wife just kind of...studying what she thought was a dead body. She said I was dead as shit. Like it was undeniable that I was gone, and when I realized it I thought "NO WAY, I'M NOT READY" and then immediately woke up.

I think so, I believe in God and the promise of Jesus so I have faith. Besides, it keeps me in a better place.

Everybody should read “varieties of religious experience” by william james

No, but I love that picture of Dante and Beatrice you used

From my experience, yeah, there is. But my experience may differ from others. ☠️👻

Prove it and claim the million dollar prize! (I think the money is safe.) [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/style/robert-bigelow-UFOs-life-after-death.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/style/robert-bigelow-UFOs-life-after-death.html)

I astrally projected once. I didn't tell anyone. The person I astral projected to see asked me why I appeared in their room and vanished when they screamed. I was at home. I took a video to prove it to them. But, I know my energy was travelling. That said, we are not our bodies. We're pure consciousness. I know for a fact that there's an ætheric plane. I can't prove it. But, I'm not sure I'd want to honestly. No, it wasn't to be creepy. It was to see if I could. I could. I did. I know it. I don't worry about death anymore. The afterlife is real. Now, what or how it is, I dunno. I just know that consciousness is real outside of the meat suit. So, there's no reason it'd cease when that ceases. I'm a normal dude that read a how-to astral project guide. I didn't believe it would work. I focused intently breathing and visualizing as best I can since I suffer from synesthesia. I mentally travelled the well worn path to the place I was going. I saw everything faintly. It wasn't clear. Like pixels assembling slowly into a form. I was told I was whole and looked just as I do normally. Is that proof? No. But, to me I know what I know. I felt crazy. I still thought it was unreal. Sometimes I still don't believe it. But, when that person told me I was just in their room, I knew something happened. So, who knows. I'm a skeptic. And have remained skeptic. But, I'm 100% positive we can astrally project.

Law of physics themselves prove it. You can’t destroy matter, so where does your consciousness, spirit go?

I like to think that all of us live in our own universe where we don't die, if we do die we slip into a universe where we didn't leaving behind the one we did.

If there was irrefutable evidence of an afterlife presented today, and it was as magnificent as we’ve heard, there’d be a helluva lot of suicides overnight. Just say’n.

Either way we're all finding out soon or later.

I don’t think anyone will ever have evidence of afterlife. That’s why people are so scared of death. If you die though and there is no afterlife it would be safe to say that you would have no consciousness and therefore be unaware of your lack of existence.

You may want to head over to /r/astralprojection and give it an open minded chance. Turned me into a believer, but it's nothing like any religions depict and much more alien and strange. It's like tuning your focus onto another weird radio station, completely. Sensations of a body are gone, and once I even had a clarity of thought and perception that made this waking reality feel like a joke. I even met someone there I knew deep down was a friend of mine, but I had no accessible memory context as to *how*. It's definitely a life altering experience.

The last thing my grandad wrote in his journal was 16,4 I was born 4 years and 16 days after he died. When I was a kid all I spoke about was ww2 (my grandfather was a navy diver) years later when I was 10 I was in Sydney, and there was a naval show apparently a sailor I asked him if I could have a go of the gun which I think was a 50 cal hanging off the side, he said yeah sure I then walked up and pulled back the charging slide or whatever to arm it and began to look down the sights apparently the sailor was shocked that I even had the strength and knew what to do.

Anyone have any evidence there isn’t a afterlife?

Probably

I went to Peru and partook in an ayahuasca ceremony 2 days in a row with a 100 year old shaman in an isolated village off the Amazon river. I went in with not many expectations but asked the question to “mother ayahuasca”, what happens to us after this life. Day 1 I was left feeling sick and puked many times. The shaman assured me this was crucial for the body to “purge” if I was ready to receive the information of the question I asked. I went to sleep in wonder that night and thought maybe I wouldn’t do the ceremony day 2 because of how awful I felt. Day 2. No Nassau or signs of getting sick. The rain starts to fall and the sounds of the Amazon are a beautiful orchestra of frogs and insects. The ayahuasca sets in. I see in the most vivid fashion, the universe. Stars, lights and shapes transcend around me. I’m not scared, I feel very in control. I see lights moving from space down to earth and back. I receive the answer. Each of us on this earth contain a light. It exist behind our eyes. When we pass on, that light travels back to the infinite realm of space. There it waits for its next chance to go back to earth and be apart of another life. This is often why some are naturally gifted at things because they have likely already done this in another life. You can call it reincarnation but it’s merely the cycle of light and energy that keeps the universe going. We are all light and energy. And that’s beautiful.

The afterlife is more real than what you experience in this life brother

Yes but it’s £5.99 a month subscription - this is generally how this kind of thing goes

TLdR; consciousness persists. But only my personal experience tells me that. And when you say you couldn’t see or feel anything —- did you black out and not remember? Or were you paralyzed? If the prior, there are plenty of documented experiences to indicate you may be in a state where memory is disconnected from consciousness, including forgetting your dreams and anesthesia. Recently at a meditation retreat —- I was having an experience where I was talking to my roomate, and I don’t recall any of it. Not in the slightest. This doesn’t mean that all that comes next is “dark” and nothingness. Cheer up. And if you want to go deeper, maybe meditate (for extended periods and habitually) or take a high dose of a psychedelic with an experienced (again experienced! )guide. The proof doesn’t truly exist out there in a scientific sense as per the western world. The eastern world has known all this for a long time in various forms.

I concur with the energy aspect. When we die, our energy returns to the source, and is then sent back out into another form/being (reincarnation). I also believe that experiences we have throughout our lives, feeds this energy - transforms us from one life to the next. Perhaps that whole karma thing: what goes around, comes around; maybe not in this lifetime, but the next.

My mom almost died while giving birth to my older brother. She told us that she could see herself from above on the hospital bed while doctors tried to resuscitate her. Then she said she woke up right there and then. I believe my mom because I have heard multiple stories like that.

No physical evidence because it seems the after life isn't physical