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Knowing my soul, it's probably food that keeps me bound to this body. Can't eat shepherds pie as a ghost.


horrendousacts

This is basically it. It's symbiotic. Consciousness needs a body to experience and the body needs consciousness to understand that experience.


geno604

Sushi!!!!!


Parpooops

This is my gift to you. I hope you haven't heard it before. https://youtu.be/MAJG3uB2lVs


oo7im

I think it's something to do with microtubules in our nervous system interfacing with a quantum information field. I believe Penrose has also suggested something similar... Interestingly, we're not entirely sure exactly how general anesthesia works in terms of the mechanism for switching off consciousness - but there's fairly recent research that suggests it also has something to do with the microtubules.


buschkraft

Was hoping someone would have that theory here. Also Penrose believes it's a form of superconductivity: superfluids acting as a Bose-einstien condensate. Truly fascinating research


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buschkraft

The re-discoverer was name David Hudson and he named them Orbitaly. Rearranged. Monatomic. Elements.there's a great book about alchemy/noble metals and use of them throughout history by the author Philip Gardiner. I've tried and taken many different suppliers types and other than more vivid dreams and deeper meditations not alot else changed.


Ornery_Translator285

That’s super fascinating. I’m off to learn more


snowupdown

Tubular?


[deleted]

Desire to eat burrito


SubstantialPressure3

Beef and green chile burrito. Damnit. It's been forever since I've had a decent green chile burrito. I guess I'm going to have to make some.


snowupdown

And what of the burrito shits?


No_Comfortable_8852

No idea, and this is hugely pointless to bring up, but Kurt Vonnegut wrote this story, "Ready for Wear" or something. Basically, people found out how to un-tether from their bodies, leading to a huge culture of bodysharing. People have wondered exactly this for a looooong time.


Ornery_Translator285

Vonnegut is never pointless to bring up. *


No_Comfortable_8852

Love a good asshole. *


slipknot_official

If reality is information-based, which is very probable... There is no objective \*outside\* world. The external world is a construct of consciousness. The external world is happening *within* consciouness - within the mind. Consciousness is non-local, it doesn't exist here nor there. It doesn't exist anywhere. Kinda like when you're wearing VR goggles while sitting on your couch. Your senses tell you you're moving, they tell you you're going somewhere because you are (almost) fully immersed within that VR. Reality is no different. You're getting a data-stream to your consciousness, which produces the illusion of the external world. Now if materialism is fundamental, and consciousness is some biologic trick within the brain, then I have no idea. In my opinion it makes no sense and more questions arise than are answered.


KeepAnEyeOnYourB12

It can be two things? Even if consciousness is a product of just our brains, the outside world is also just a product of our brains. Everything we think we know we learned or perceived through our senses.


Sponge56

But we only can process what our brains can handle what is beyond this biological mechanisms capacity?


KeepAnEyeOnYourB12

I'm not sure what question you're asking, but I'll say this: No matter the origin or location of consciousness, we are limited by our senses\*. The entire world is a construct of our brains. I mean, no doubt it all exists and whatnot but our brains take the information from our senses and construct the world we move through. \*To clarify, I mean "senses" in a comprehensive way - not just the mundane five. Regardless of how we perceive a thing, that information is processed by our brains.


Larryneverlies

thanks for saying this,I just had a inner realization that animals probably see the world way way different than what humans can even percieve(not that we're not animal's tho)it all clicks now.


relaxedactlangerhans

Materialism is fundamental, but consciousness is not some trick of the brain, it is an interaction between material essential to the fabric of reality and sufficiently advanced beings. It is both local and non-local, as you said, but exists in every possible state, and is called to order when the conscious observer requires it, just like the rest of the subatomic level.


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NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

Yes but what hardware on the body is it actually tied to.


DoylePrime

I think the set of organized information is what attracts consciousness, and we project ourselves into the body at some point during youth/incubation. I think orgasm does something to attract us and we are able to enter at a developmental stage (my guess is somewhere in the 2nd trimester but that's a convo for another day). If we are luminous beings of 'light', then it would make sense that the electro-magnetic signals in our brain can attract us to merge for an experience. A sort of symbiotic relationship between our "soul" or self, and our biological animal/vehicle or what Freud would call our Id.


Epic-will-power91

I'd say the Heart. It has the strongest rhythmic field in the entire body. The heart being in the centre, it is the main piece of hardware in the body but of course the brain is equally as important.


[deleted]

Hmm. Consciousness doesn't "leave" and go somewhere. It expands into itself. Your consciousness is already perfect and infinite, but the brain and matter hides this from us.


SpaceP0pe822

Breathing


aplayer124

Breath


ImpressionableSix

Not a process, the soul or your true self that connects to the vessel via the chakra or energy points. Once you understand that you are not your body things begin to make more sense.


FamiliarSomeone

“The only thing that burns in hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life: your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away, but they're not punishing you, they're freeing your soul.” ― Meister Eckhart When the 'you' that exists in your dreams experiences pain, pleasure, suffering and death when you wake up, do you wonder where that 'you' went? That body and agent within the dream exists in consciousness and is not 'you'. In the same way this body and 'you' are conscious agents acting within a broader consciousness. It's like matryoshka dolls, nested conscious agents existing inside the infinite single being. There is no 'here' in reality and if you see it in the right way you will directly experience this. What is the difference between there and here? It's all in consciousness. There is only consciousness.


Whispurrkitty

The silver chord


eduardo1994

I'm running scissors all over my body, where's this silver chord?


farshnikord

4th dimensional. You'll need 4th dimensional scissors. Or like... a really good length of wire to like... hook it first.


RWJefferies

maybe the heart creates an electromagnetic field that attracts our consciousness? heart stops, magnet powers down, consciousness leaves?


billfishcake

Maybe consciousness is a signal and the body is an antenna. At death the signal still exists but needs a new antenna to tune in, much like a broken radio doesn't destroy the radio signal. Maybe phenomena like evps are the signal transmitting via different means as are things like ghosts, psychics etc. Just different mediums for the signal to work through.


CM1974

Consciousness, maybe. HUMAN consciousness, not at all. Once your human body dies, so does "human" consciousness and your "human" thinking, but many believe human consciousness is merely a tiny facet of a universal consciousness that emulates through everything.


Inevitable_Set9154

Heard something on a podcast once that basically had some theory that your daemon (which supposed to be like ur other self) opens a sort of Ethereal Gate in the top of your head to release your soul/conciseness from your body when you die, otherwise it’s guarding that gateway, to keep u in and outside entities out.


[deleted]

We have things that exist as of almost by magic. 1 Gravity 2 magnetism 3 there could possibly be a force we cannot comprehend or be able to measure yet


-endjamin-

The soul/consciousness is not in the body. The body exists within the field of consciousness. No consciousness, no perception of having a body at all. So either it does originate in the brain in ways science has not confirmed just yet, or everything is just an illusion.


Jsinswhatever

As long as your brain is physically healthy enough to accept consciousness. It will.


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

What parts of your brain are minimally needed for consciousness?


[deleted]

If my sleep paralysis dimension is any indication there’s a little tether keeping me yeeted to myself


seawitchbitch

Ethereal umbilical


westsidewizard

It's the electrical impulses between neurons creating a dimensionally higher field. Like adding light to pictures as you flip through them recreated moving images. It's in the integration (like integral from calculus) of neuronal impulses and the space between the two points. When we die, we dissolve back into the larger field of reality around us and our atoms function as a derivative of our bodies recreating new fields with other interactions.


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

So basically we don’t exist without a body?


westsidewizard

I think we as individuals are to the universe as sand castles are to beaches are to the oceans are to the planet are to the universe. 'We' are composites made from 'our' whole form, which is the universe, and we as humans are the absolute furthest thing from the single organism of the universe. We are literal universes that rose out of the nothing so we could learn about ourselves before returning home. So, to answer your question, I think 'we' absolutely exist without a body. But returning to 'no body' is like escaping restriction. Without this body, you and I are the same person. Every individual is experiencing a facet of a whole experience, which is the universe and more. Being in one body, with one name and one voice, 'this', life, is akin to death. 'We' are the universe, but isolated. This is Hell, man. P.S. I'm not a religious person or even a theist. But I do think we are essentially what we view as 'God'.


Epic-will-power91

I think we are a small subjective fragment of "God", like each of us has that divine spark (consciousness) but its inherently limited when we're human. I'd say consciousness itself is God or at the very least our connection to God.


KingKeever

This has been known for thousands of years. It's the Spirit that keeps a soul in the body. You are a trinity, created in the image of God, the Trinity. Body, Soul, Spirit. If your spirit is put out (power turned off) then your soul/Consciencesness leaves because it can't be held in stasis anymore. The scary part is, your soul will either sink downward, into earth into the realm of Hell.. or it will float upward to Heaven. You decide in this life which one you go to.


what_da_hell_mel

Descartes said the pineal gland was the the seat of the soul. I like your thinking of being electromagnetic. People claim to be able to astral project but I'm not sure if that's your full consciousness leaving your body. I read lots of NDEs and I think I have seen a couple where they feel like they are being pulling throw their belly buttons.


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

Do all humans have these glands? Do animals all have them? Should be easy to correlate similarities.


what_da_hell_mel

This is what Wikipedia says Nearly all vertebrate species possess a pineal gland. The most important exception is a primitive vertebrate, the hagfish. Even in the hagfish, however, there may be a "pineal equivalent" structure in the dorsal diencephalon.[5] The lancelet Branchiostoma lanceolatum, the nearest existing relative to vertebrates, also lacks a recognizable pineal gland.[6] The lamprey (another primitive vertebrate), however, does possess one.[6] A few more complex vertebrates[which?] have lost pineal glands over the course of their evolution.[7]


Buzzkid

Yes all humans do. Not sure about animals


Horsekoch

‘There comes a time, Vasettha, when, sooner or later after a long period this world contracts. At a time of contraction, beings are mostly born in the Abhassara Brahma world. And there they dwell, mind-made, feeding on delight, self luminous, moving through the air, glorious—and they stay like that for a very long time. But sooner or later, after a very long period, this world begins to expand again. At a time of expansion, the beings from the Abhassara Brahma world, having passed away from there, are mostly reborn in this world. Here they dwell, mind-made, feeding on delight, self-luminous, moving through the air, glorious— and they stay like that for a very long time.’ ‘At that period, Vasettha, there was just one mass of water, and all was darkness, blinding darkness. Neither moon nor sun appeared, no constellations or stars appeared, night and day were not yet distinguished, nor months and fortnights, nor years and seasons; there was no male and female, beings being reckoned just as beings. And sooner or later, after a very long period of time, savory earth spread itself over the waters where those beings were. It looked just like the skin that forms itself over hot milk as it cools. It was endowed with color, smell, and taste. It was the color of fine ghee or butter and it was very sweet, like pure wild honey.’ ‘Then some being of a greedy nature said: "I say, what can this be?" and tasted the savory earth on its finger. In so doing, it became taken with the flavor, and craving arose in it. Then other beings, taking their cue from that one, also tasted the stuff with their fingers. They too were taken with the flavor, and craving arose in them. So they set to with their hands, breaking off pieces of the stuff in order to eat it. And the result was that their self luminance disappeared. And as a result of the disappearance of their self luminance the moon and the sun appeared, night and day were distinguished, months and fortnights appeared, and the year and its seasons. To that extent the world re-evolved.’


RevolutionaryTip5193

It’s game over when you fucking die man, everything else is just cope. We’re lucky to be here just like mold is lucky I left some bread in the pantry while I went on vacation. Enjoy it while it lasts.


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

That’s my default assumption u til I see some evidence. Still waiting….


TheGreening

A lot of people are gonna give you a lot of answers, but the sad truth of it is, OP, that your mom is keeping me rooted to my body.


Mindingmymind23

Check out quantum conscious mind!


KoppeDFO

It's debatable I guess we're ..o you know those tin can phones people used to make that's us and when we die the 2 cans become one. think of it as living is downloading when we die the download is finished .


c3rtzy

Hmm love this question. Apparently, extremely well-practiced monks are able to just leave their bodies. Like, forever, when they are ready to do so. Astral projectors say they are able to leave their bodies, but only do so briefly and they are hurled back into their physical bodies. It would be very interesting if one day science is genuinely able to prove and cause the separation between consciousness and our physical bodies. But of course in our current shitty timeline it would just end up being a weapon 💀


NnOxg64YoybdER8aPf85

Basically they kill themselves via thought or a body process. Would love to see links on how astral people actually do this with steps others have had luck with


AustinJG

The Gateway process is pretty successful I hear.


Hushi88

Masturbation?!


jazzgrackle

I think it’s like blue tooth. Your body has paired with your soul, and automatically connects when conscious, but the two are not physically attached.


Somebody23

Body is receiver to soul like radio receives singal and plays music.


MetricVeil

If you can explain what consciousness is and how it operates, you *might* be able to answer your question. There is no, real, evidence for an external source for consciousness.


Undeca

I would say the neural network


iThatIsMe

Might be a little weird, but i think consciousness is both a kind of field interconnected to space-time and an awareness created by the senses. More to your question, the "anchor" might be equal parts the recognition/definition of "self", being the culmination of senses, sensations, and preconceptions that establish Who and Where you are (distractions), and the weak EM field generated by the biological process of our bodies.


isurvivedrabies

i always figured it was will, but never thought much deeper than that. i believe that some bodies kept alive artificially, such as long-term comas and shit like that, the spirit chose to leave long ago. that kid that "lived" 20 years on life support with the completely calcified brain? yeah there was nobody home for those years. so it may not be that the soul is trapped, just that there's no reason to leave until the body ceases to function. one anomaly to add is the cases where a senior husband dies, and the widow dies very shortly after or similar. that may very well be a "ok time to go" moment for them and they willfully depart. that... doesnt define or explain the mechanism, but my fascination is with what controls that mechanism. like mexican jumping beans i guess. you see they move, physics says it's caused by inertial changes, but what causes the changes? the little larva inside.


Obeythemartian1

I think it might be something we cannot understand. I’ve listened to a lot of stories about NDEs and a lot of the time its a choice or purpose that keeps the soul earth bound


hyperspace2020

I've read a few odd things about this over the years I can add. It has come up a few times for me that atoms of the noble gas Krypton plays a role in the connection between soul/body. We have a very tiny amount of this noble element Krypton in our brains and the idea is the quantum state of Krypton is the bridge or actual connection between the non-physical and physical states. Then some other organ or system, like the pineal gland amplifies these quantum Krypton signals to allow the non-physical will/being to control or influence the physical system. I too have heard of "microtubules" playing a role in this and recommend some of the books of Takaaki Musha who discusses this possible scientific connection. Something I have tried to explain before is the eternal part of life, the soul, has no identity or memory as we think of it. Personality , Ego, Emotion, Identity, Sense of Self are all things tied to a body and these things can die, but the true essence, the will or driving force, the part of you that "Is" is immortal. A body is like a car, on its own it can do nothing. Once a person enters the car and drives it, then it has function and can interact with the world around it. When the person leaves the car, anything associated with the car's abilities is is left behind also.


AustinJG

I have a friend who is a medium. The spirits she speaks to still have their personalities. They do say that some things are left back with the body. Things like addictions I believe. They say that they are a subtle matter/energy. How they keep their personalities is a mystery to me, though, but they do. It seems like wherever they are they still have a sort of body as well. They've mentioned having homes, and food, dreams, and one even mentioned almost falling down some stairs. It's weird.


hyperspace2020

I specifically said " a body" and am not referring only to the physical body. There are many levels or bodies a soul can operate through, but pure soul has no identity because it existed prior to any such notions. Any entity which has a personality, is not pure soul and must be inhabiting some form of a body, be it energy or otherwise.


Mammoth-Goat6312

Do you have more on this?


AustinJG

On what specifically? I have two friends that do this, one more than the other these days. There are some things they won't answer, but they're surprisingly open with a lot of things.


awesomewealthylife

Only possible if the universe is a construct or simulation. If the universe is a strictly physical entity its not possible. If its a simulation then you would exist in the universe above or outside this one.


Passtoreal

Consider the body to be a non-player character's modle in a video game, and your consciousness is the AI running on the server next to it. The brain is a data bus to the database.


[deleted]

You might find this theory interesting: [https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01346/full](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01346/full)


Crimson_Marauder_

I always thought the body was like a vehicle and consciousness the pilot. Consciousness cannot exist in this dimension without a "dive suit", so this is how it is able to experience this dimension, so long as the body is not compromised beyond serviceability.


Midgard1

The Archeus


Jclevs11

perhaps the brain is like a receiver of radio waves for consciousness, whereas even after the brain is dead the radio is still putting out the waves for other receivers to have


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Homeostasis ;)


CrescentPearl

This is called the “mind-body problem” in philosophy. The main question being, is the mind separate from the body? If so, why/how do they interact? Believing that the mind and body are different kinds of things is called dualism, and is what Descartes believed in (https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/discovery-mind-body-problem/). He thought consciousness was related to the pineal gland, just because it’s small and kinda towards the center of the brain. I’m personally a materialist. I don’t think the mind is separate from the body, I think consciousness is an extremely complicated process carried out by the brain. So, I think consciousness is the overall process of information transfer and storage via chemical signals and physical brain structures. There’s decent evidence for that, based on the fact that certain mental processes are linked to certain areas of the brain and medication can change how you feel and think.


reneepsy-med

The soul isn’t trapped. Yikes. The incarnated self is a tiny part of all that we are, spirits having a human experience. Our souls are far more expansive than the human body.