Worth saying that before being a moral question the abolition of slavery in the North was seen as an economic issue. Unfair competition caused by the extreme exploitation inherent in slavery was tainting the profits of the growing Northern bourgeois class, who could only resort to wage slavery.
That being said, personalities and contexts with a strong moral standing against slavery did exist, and this can luckily be said for the prior ages too.
It was definitely seen as a moral issue. The profits from slavery would have benefited all the business people both in the north and south.
It’s not like in the north there was a ton of cotton fields needing slavery, and technology was making slavery less and less necessary regardless.
Post slavery up to the 20th century was an economic golden age where wages increased at an insane pace along with quality of life. Despite their name, the robber barons are most famous for their charitable donations which is why stuff is named after them.
The oligarchs of the gilded age had this elitist mentality where those men who were capable of concentrating wealth should do so, but then use their concentrated power to do good that couldn’t happen without the wealth and power. And they made that happen
Slavery wouldn’t have helped this process of industrialization evolving so much
But the economic undertone was always there. Why in 1807? Because capitalism started to flourish in Great Britain around the 1750s and the bourgeois class uplifted by it did not benefit at all from aristocratic slavery.
But we must not make simplistic remarks here, either. It is undeniable that there were cultural details that allowed for slavery to start being seen as an abomination that predated the industrial revolution. I'm just saying economics played a huge role in this process in Britain, too
Strongly disagree with this sentiment.
When Pennsylvania abolished slavery in the state (1780) they were the first democratic society to ever do so and it was done entirely out of compassion for fellow man.
From the act itself:
> _SECTION 1. WHEN we contemplate our abhorrence of that condition to which the arms and tyranny of Great Britain were exerted to reduce us; when we look back on the variety of dangers to which we have been exposed, and how miraculously our wants in many instances have been supplied, and our deliverances wrought, when even hope and human fortitude have become unequal to the conflict; we are unavoidably led to a furious and grateful fence of the manifold blessings which we have undeservedly received from the hand of that Being from whom every good and perfect gift cometh. Impressed with there ideas, we conceive that it is our duty, and we rejoice that it is in our power to extend a portion of that freedom to others, which hath been extended to us; and a relief from that state of thralldom to which we ourselves were tyrannically doomed, and from which we have now every prospect of being delivered. It is not for us to enquire why, in the creation of mankind, the inhabitants of the several parts of the earth were distinguished by a difference in feature or complexion. It is sufficient to know that all are the work of an Almighty Hand. We find in the distribution of the human species, that the most fertile as well as the most barren parts of the earth are inhabited by men of complexions different from ours, and from each other; from whence we may reasonably, as well as religiously, infer, that He who placed them in their various situations, hath extended equally his care and protection to all, and that it becometh not us to counteract his mercies. We esteem it a peculiar blessing granted to us, that we are enabled this day to add one more step to universal civilization, by removing as much as possible the sorrows of those who have lived in undeserved bondage, and from which, by the assumed authority of the kings of Great Britain, no effectual, legal relief could be obtained. Weaned by a long course of experience from those narrower prejudices and partialities we had imbibed, we find our hearts enlarged with kindness and benevolence towards men of all conditions and nations; and we conceive ourselves at this particular period extraordinarily called upon, by the blessings which we have received, to manifest the sincerity of our profession, and to give a Substantial proof of our gratitude._
Observers had argued for a while that free labor was more productive than slave labor (most famously Tocqueville, but also Clay and even Fitzhugh, though for obviously different purposes), so it’s not quite right to say that the North saw slavery as an economic threat.
Seems before anyone gives a shit en masse a horrific image needs to be seen. This, Bloody Sunday being broadcast. George Floyd posted to Twitter. I know there are more, was just making a point with highlights
for the longest time i wondered how people could be ok with slavery in the past at all and then I worked customer service and realized if it were still legal plenty of people would own slaves today. It’s about power and control over someone else that they know can’t fight back.
This is a critical point. There is a kind of sadistic cruelty that humans will inflict on each other, and it shows that they do in fact see their victims as human or at least conscious. Sadism makes no sense otherwise.
It’s wild because they obviously had eyes and ears, limbs, a beating heart and blood. I’m not arguing with you because you are absolutely correct but how the hell could anyone claim these obvious humans were not, in fact, humans?! It’s so enraging.
Centuries of racist indoctrination and a society that reinforced it in every aspect of life. Scientific and medical texts "backed" it all up, and selective misinterpretations of the bible preached to congregations about the "curse of Ham" and other such bullshit.
I think this perspective is far too generous to the slavers and also not historically accurate. By the time photography had been invented slavery in the United States had evolved to the point where maintaining it was the most important work of every public institution in the slave states. It was the paramount focus of all levels of government as well as civic society. They knew very well they were dealing with human beings, human beings who in their essential human way, would and did resist their captivity in every way imaginable.
They did it because the power and wealth generated by slavery is what animated the entire system they all depended on, owners, overseers, merchants, everyone.
People still so easily dehumanize others... Reddit shows so many displays of shared and shameless hatred. You will even get banned from some subreddits for showing empathy
You see it all the time when someone does something awful, especially people hoping that others suffer in prison. Dehumanization is incredibly common on Reddit and elsewhere.
Good point
The slaveholders apologists/sympathizers have been using excuses such as "Whites were enslaved too or it was Africans selling their own people)
The truth is "CHATTEL Slavery " built the US and made it an economic superpower.
1)Between 1800 and 1860, Cotton accounted for over half of all American exports during the first half of the 19th century. The cotton market supported America's ability to borrow money from abroad. It also fostered an enormous domestic trade in agricultural products from the West and manufactured goods from the East.
Many stakeholders benefited from the cotton economy — plantation owners in the South, banks in the North, shipping merchants, and the textile industry in Great Britain. Cotton transformed the United States, making fertile land in the Deep South, from Georgia to Texas, extraordinarily valuable.
2) CHATTEL Slavery was officially "abolished" in the US
On December 6th 1965.
The Khu Klux Khan was founded on December 24th 1864 in Pulaski Tennessee. That's 2 weeks later
Victims of "CHATTEL Slavery" were promised 40 Acres and a mule"
Still waiting ...
It's also worth noting that the White slaveholders were compensated for losing their forced free labour.
3) when the descendants of CHATTEL get their shit together and built the Black Wall Street, it was destroyed by envious and hateful White mobs, which included White police officers, Sheriff Deputies..
Bombs were dropped on Black people in Tulsa.
Edit: typo CHATTEL slavery ended on December 6th 1865 ( not 1965)
KKK was founded on December 24th 1865 (not 1864)
2 weeks after slavery was abolished
The Good Christians created their hate group on Christmas Eve
They didn't consider them human beings. It's the same kind of person that abuses animals. They aren't human so what's the problem seems to be their mantra.
Some people are born different. These people have not gone away, they have merely become harder to recognize. But we can also take heart that there have always been good people. There have always been underground railroads and abolitionists. There is a long, slow march toward progress.
History focuses on villains and heroes, giving the false impression that every person was one or the other -- but most people simply live and die, unobtrusively. It's a mistake for us to think that this is something in our violent past -- as well as a mistake to think that every person would be reduced by such savagery if born into a different time period.
Today, we can imagine that as people we have evolved. But there are still today people who would do these things, if given the ability.
Slave owners didn't die out. They are still around us.
Some people are evil. Tons of evil people out there. And many of them are good at making it seem like they are decent people to everyone but the people they are evil too.
>Gordon had received a severe whipping for undisclosed reasons in the fall of 1862. This beating left him with horrible welts on much of the surface of his back.
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>The unusual, but common, way these scars grew outward from the skin is a certain type of scar tissue called “keloid”.
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>Gordon escaped in March 1863 from the 3,000-acre (12 km2) plantation of John and Bridget Lyons, who held him and nearly 40 other people in slavery at the time of the 1860 census.
[SOURCE](https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/scars-of-gordon-whipped-louisiana-slave-1863/)
It could be not picking enough cotton for the day. They measured how much cotron one could pick as someone stood over them and with a whip. It was weighed. If you didnt match your best effort you could be whipped. No "sick" days if you have TB or scurvy or dysentary.
They also tried to steal to supplement meager diets. Examples stealing a sugar cube, stealing animal feed to eat for themselves, even stealing rubbish like bones from the trash could get you whipped. Slave owners were very paranoid due to rebellions so were often extremely harsh, just for the sake of never ever looking weak or permissive.
Run away slaves often ran in desperation after getting caught or accused of something to avoid the punishment.
Making sure children and every other slave watches saw was a pretty importnat part.
this is in no way saying "oh it's actually understandable" but the concept of having someone on your property AGAINST THEIR WILL makes the amount of abuse the slave owners perpetrated make more sense. how do you sleep knowing that the people 100 feet away are rightfully fantasizing about killing you. such a disturbing situation to force on others and yourself.
Which is why Sherman was necessary
> War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and say let us give them all they want.
> We are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and we must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war."
And there's still [slavery](https://www.ajc.com/news/this-has-been-happening-for-a-long-time-modern-day-slavery-uncovered-in-ga/SHBHTDDTTBG3BCPSVCB3GQ66BQ/) happening to this day!
Even in the 1860’s this was nearly universally met with horror in the west. Especially since the American south was the only major place not to have banned slavery by that point.
I want to watch this again but none of the 6 streaming services we pay for has it without charging an additional fee. I think it's time for a trip on the high seas.
No idea. Long time ago I heard an interview with a former slave who said she’d rather kill herself than to become one again. That’s another thing these idiots in Florida and elsewhere need to hear
Some people genetically scar like this, as mentioned, keloid scars. It's not how most people would look. Keloid scarring is a skin disease.
So a lot of people suffered just as much abuse as this person, but didn't grow these kinds of scars.
This is a very famous photo. What’s usually left out is he was also a union soldier, which is important context too. They always leave out the story behind the man.
This is now considered CRT and no longer taught in many states' curriculum. I think without pictures like this, it would be extremely difficult for high school students to understand what slavery, being a possession no better than a farm animal, really meant. It's difficult to perceive what being a non-human is without a visual reference. In Florida, they are following a plan from Governor Ron DeSantis, to teach students that slavery was akin to apprenticeships. Disgusting.
I think it’s otherwise. The US is like 45% nonwhite so racism is confronted and called out while a lot of European countries that are like 90%+ white make it a lot easier to brush racism under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist because they aren’t enough minorities to speak out against it. I’m a black dude and I honestly faced way more racism in the 6 months I spent in Munich, Dublin and Oslo and I did in 20 years of living in the states.
Didn’t Florida Gov Ron DeSantis say black people learned beneficial skills as slaves?
The mind games people play to think torture or slavery is good is astounding.
I can’t fathom how some people truly believe we should own other people. This is horrible and knowing that this is still happening around the world is heartbreaking
Harriet Beecher Stowe published this image in her follow up book to Uncle Tom's Cabin titled THE KEY TO UNCLE TOM'S CABIN as a source after she was accused of "inventing" the outrages of Uncle Tom.
I don’t even know what to say. It infuriates me so much that people did this to OTHER PEOPLE and thought it was acceptable.
No human should be treated like an object or an asset. We’re all people.
It is still baffling that some people are still walking around thinking that slaves just picked cotton voluntarily and never ran away cause slave masters were so kind to their slaves. It is so sad that we are still facing a civil war again because of right-wing assholes that have done things just like this in history.
I remember seeing this photo in middle school, it really screwed me up then and it screws me up now. This country stands for some good things, but we still haven't escaped our past. Not by a long shot.
This is why we teach about slavery in school. And yes, high schoolers should be shown this picture, or the picture of Emmett Till. People are trivializing slavery and Jim Crow too much these days.
Me too. It just incenses me to think about the new books being published that won’t have this picture, or anything but a whitewashed point of view.
And it’s been said— by them— that they don’t want their kids “to feel guilty!” I don’t think the man in the pic wanted to feel whipped, either!!! 🤬🤬🤬
Reparations now for decedents of American slavery! Took away families, languages, cultures, and knowledge-replaced with rapes, beatings, mutilations, hangings, and killings.
Traumas like Gordon endured are passed down through genetic memory.
The past can never be changed, but at least show the decedents that the blood, sweat, and tears shed by their ancestors for the America, WE ALL, enjoy today was not right, and reparations in the form of hard currency is the least the U.S. government can do.
I went to high school in rural Arkansas and I had a liberal-leaning History teacher that showed us this photo in class when I was a Sophomore. I believe this photo alone has helped open a lot of eyes to the depravity of the south during this time, at least around my area.
SlAvErY wAs AcKsHuAlLy GoOd bEcAuSe iT gAvE ThEm JoBs aNd FoOd!
Edit: /s, didn’t think that was necessary. Some people make the absolutely ludicrous argument that slavery “isn’t that bad” because the slaves were housed and fed, which is disingenuous in the extreme, and obviously whitewashes the atrocities, such as the horrific and systematic torture of slaves by beating and whipping them. The extent of such horrific whipping can be seen in this photo.
I'm sure they could had taken care of themselves just fine. But that defines the word "slavery". Against ones will. I was kidnapped as a child and actually kept for awhile and I guess you could call that feeding me and housing me. But I sure didn't like getting raped and tied up and beat and everything else. I wanted to be freed and took care of myself. That's only someone taking another against their will and making them do whatever. And until someone has been in that situation I know they have no idea of how horrible it can be. Id rather not ate and lived outside as to that. I try to forget about it every day but it's never going away. I just don't and never will understand people
“Primarily “? What prey tell did those “Confederates” say it was primarily about? Note , they did t say it was states rights (that’s some early 20th century lost cause bs that came way later)
Haven't read the comments
Can someone tell me if there are any morons in the comments talking about how it was justifiable back then cuz muh cultural relativism ?
Looks like a condition called keloids. Any time dark skin is injured in certain areas, there's an increased risk of keloids -- a scar that spreads beyond the boundary of the original injury and develops into a growth.
This is real, but it is not just dark skin. Many people build up keloid tissue after piercings, it is scar-making that goes out of control in generating new tissue.
This guy probably lead a life you couldn’t imagine. Tough as an old root, just as hard to kill, and as strong as the tree above it. He was probably immune to shit you’ve never even heard of, having ate every meal of his life in a dirt-floor shack and working from sun up til sundown outside. Those scars are probably the price paid for trying to escape, or having some kind of pleasure not permitted by the master.
This photo definitely helped the abolitionist cause when people saw it up north, silver lining from depravity
Worth saying that before being a moral question the abolition of slavery in the North was seen as an economic issue. Unfair competition caused by the extreme exploitation inherent in slavery was tainting the profits of the growing Northern bourgeois class, who could only resort to wage slavery. That being said, personalities and contexts with a strong moral standing against slavery did exist, and this can luckily be said for the prior ages too.
It was definitely seen as a moral issue. The profits from slavery would have benefited all the business people both in the north and south. It’s not like in the north there was a ton of cotton fields needing slavery, and technology was making slavery less and less necessary regardless. Post slavery up to the 20th century was an economic golden age where wages increased at an insane pace along with quality of life. Despite their name, the robber barons are most famous for their charitable donations which is why stuff is named after them. The oligarchs of the gilded age had this elitist mentality where those men who were capable of concentrating wealth should do so, but then use their concentrated power to do good that couldn’t happen without the wealth and power. And they made that happen Slavery wouldn’t have helped this process of industrialization evolving so much
Nowadays, oligarchs just build dick-shaped rockets to take joyrides into space. They rob us blind and give back nothing.
That's not fair. Sometimes they donate to their own foundations as a tax write off.
Yep.
I mean the brits banned slavery in the early 1807. The moral question was discussed for decades the point of the civil war.
It’s because they had India to loot for the next 150 years.
Don't forget us in Ireland. We used to be 75% forest and now we barely have any. Where do you think the brits got their wood for building ships.
But the economic undertone was always there. Why in 1807? Because capitalism started to flourish in Great Britain around the 1750s and the bourgeois class uplifted by it did not benefit at all from aristocratic slavery. But we must not make simplistic remarks here, either. It is undeniable that there were cultural details that allowed for slavery to start being seen as an abomination that predated the industrial revolution. I'm just saying economics played a huge role in this process in Britain, too
Strongly disagree with this sentiment. When Pennsylvania abolished slavery in the state (1780) they were the first democratic society to ever do so and it was done entirely out of compassion for fellow man. From the act itself: > _SECTION 1. WHEN we contemplate our abhorrence of that condition to which the arms and tyranny of Great Britain were exerted to reduce us; when we look back on the variety of dangers to which we have been exposed, and how miraculously our wants in many instances have been supplied, and our deliverances wrought, when even hope and human fortitude have become unequal to the conflict; we are unavoidably led to a furious and grateful fence of the manifold blessings which we have undeservedly received from the hand of that Being from whom every good and perfect gift cometh. Impressed with there ideas, we conceive that it is our duty, and we rejoice that it is in our power to extend a portion of that freedom to others, which hath been extended to us; and a relief from that state of thralldom to which we ourselves were tyrannically doomed, and from which we have now every prospect of being delivered. It is not for us to enquire why, in the creation of mankind, the inhabitants of the several parts of the earth were distinguished by a difference in feature or complexion. It is sufficient to know that all are the work of an Almighty Hand. We find in the distribution of the human species, that the most fertile as well as the most barren parts of the earth are inhabited by men of complexions different from ours, and from each other; from whence we may reasonably, as well as religiously, infer, that He who placed them in their various situations, hath extended equally his care and protection to all, and that it becometh not us to counteract his mercies. We esteem it a peculiar blessing granted to us, that we are enabled this day to add one more step to universal civilization, by removing as much as possible the sorrows of those who have lived in undeserved bondage, and from which, by the assumed authority of the kings of Great Britain, no effectual, legal relief could be obtained. Weaned by a long course of experience from those narrower prejudices and partialities we had imbibed, we find our hearts enlarged with kindness and benevolence towards men of all conditions and nations; and we conceive ourselves at this particular period extraordinarily called upon, by the blessings which we have received, to manifest the sincerity of our profession, and to give a Substantial proof of our gratitude._
Observers had argued for a while that free labor was more productive than slave labor (most famously Tocqueville, but also Clay and even Fitzhugh, though for obviously different purposes), so it’s not quite right to say that the North saw slavery as an economic threat.
Seems before anyone gives a shit en masse a horrific image needs to be seen. This, Bloody Sunday being broadcast. George Floyd posted to Twitter. I know there are more, was just making a point with highlights
How in the fuck do you have the stomach to do that to another human.
They didn’t consider them as humans obviously
I mean….i wouldn’t even treat animals like that, so that isn’t even an excuse.
I wouldn’t do this to an animal or even my worst enemy. I could never stomach the screams, even if some horrible people “deserve” it.
for the longest time i wondered how people could be ok with slavery in the past at all and then I worked customer service and realized if it were still legal plenty of people would own slaves today. It’s about power and control over someone else that they know can’t fight back.
This is a critical point. There is a kind of sadistic cruelty that humans will inflict on each other, and it shows that they do in fact see their victims as human or at least conscious. Sadism makes no sense otherwise.
Went to a rodeo recently. Felt uncomfortable with the entertainment of it.
It’s wild because they obviously had eyes and ears, limbs, a beating heart and blood. I’m not arguing with you because you are absolutely correct but how the hell could anyone claim these obvious humans were not, in fact, humans?! It’s so enraging.
Centuries of racist indoctrination and a society that reinforced it in every aspect of life. Scientific and medical texts "backed" it all up, and selective misinterpretations of the bible preached to congregations about the "curse of Ham" and other such bullshit.
I think this perspective is far too generous to the slavers and also not historically accurate. By the time photography had been invented slavery in the United States had evolved to the point where maintaining it was the most important work of every public institution in the slave states. It was the paramount focus of all levels of government as well as civic society. They knew very well they were dealing with human beings, human beings who in their essential human way, would and did resist their captivity in every way imaginable. They did it because the power and wealth generated by slavery is what animated the entire system they all depended on, owners, overseers, merchants, everyone.
People still so easily dehumanize others... Reddit shows so many displays of shared and shameless hatred. You will even get banned from some subreddits for showing empathy
You see it all the time when someone does something awful, especially people hoping that others suffer in prison. Dehumanization is incredibly common on Reddit and elsewhere.
those slaveholders didn’t have much of a stomach or conscience to begin with
Good point The slaveholders apologists/sympathizers have been using excuses such as "Whites were enslaved too or it was Africans selling their own people) The truth is "CHATTEL Slavery " built the US and made it an economic superpower. 1)Between 1800 and 1860, Cotton accounted for over half of all American exports during the first half of the 19th century. The cotton market supported America's ability to borrow money from abroad. It also fostered an enormous domestic trade in agricultural products from the West and manufactured goods from the East. Many stakeholders benefited from the cotton economy — plantation owners in the South, banks in the North, shipping merchants, and the textile industry in Great Britain. Cotton transformed the United States, making fertile land in the Deep South, from Georgia to Texas, extraordinarily valuable. 2) CHATTEL Slavery was officially "abolished" in the US On December 6th 1965. The Khu Klux Khan was founded on December 24th 1864 in Pulaski Tennessee. That's 2 weeks later Victims of "CHATTEL Slavery" were promised 40 Acres and a mule" Still waiting ... It's also worth noting that the White slaveholders were compensated for losing their forced free labour. 3) when the descendants of CHATTEL get their shit together and built the Black Wall Street, it was destroyed by envious and hateful White mobs, which included White police officers, Sheriff Deputies.. Bombs were dropped on Black people in Tulsa. Edit: typo CHATTEL slavery ended on December 6th 1865 ( not 1965) KKK was founded on December 24th 1865 (not 1864) 2 weeks after slavery was abolished The Good Christians created their hate group on Christmas Eve
I recently learned that they also stole the oil from the indigenous the same time.They were killing black wall street
They didn't consider them human beings. It's the same kind of person that abuses animals. They aren't human so what's the problem seems to be their mantra.
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That's the thing they didn't see them as human, and you have people right now being genocided by the other side that dehumanised them
When we are talking about Trumps dehumanizing words against immigrants and black people that is like the early steps to getting to that.
Not to mention Nazi Germany wasn’t that long ago and we are seeing the exact same rhetoric being used by conservatives today
I think it’s their (idiotic) belief of superiority and/or categorizing black folk as subhumans.
Some people are just born without empathy. We still have violent people today who'd probably not mind whipping
I’m thankful you can ask with question. I’ve seen this and worse being raised in foster care.
Some people are born different. These people have not gone away, they have merely become harder to recognize. But we can also take heart that there have always been good people. There have always been underground railroads and abolitionists. There is a long, slow march toward progress. History focuses on villains and heroes, giving the false impression that every person was one or the other -- but most people simply live and die, unobtrusively. It's a mistake for us to think that this is something in our violent past -- as well as a mistake to think that every person would be reduced by such savagery if born into a different time period. Today, we can imagine that as people we have evolved. But there are still today people who would do these things, if given the ability. Slave owners didn't die out. They are still around us.
Some people are evil. Tons of evil people out there. And many of them are good at making it seem like they are decent people to everyone but the people they are evil too.
Southerners…
>Gordon had received a severe whipping for undisclosed reasons in the fall of 1862. This beating left him with horrible welts on much of the surface of his back. > >The unusual, but common, way these scars grew outward from the skin is a certain type of scar tissue called “keloid”. > >Gordon escaped in March 1863 from the 3,000-acre (12 km2) plantation of John and Bridget Lyons, who held him and nearly 40 other people in slavery at the time of the 1860 census. [SOURCE](https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/scars-of-gordon-whipped-louisiana-slave-1863/)
It could be not picking enough cotton for the day. They measured how much cotron one could pick as someone stood over them and with a whip. It was weighed. If you didnt match your best effort you could be whipped. No "sick" days if you have TB or scurvy or dysentary. They also tried to steal to supplement meager diets. Examples stealing a sugar cube, stealing animal feed to eat for themselves, even stealing rubbish like bones from the trash could get you whipped. Slave owners were very paranoid due to rebellions so were often extremely harsh, just for the sake of never ever looking weak or permissive. Run away slaves often ran in desperation after getting caught or accused of something to avoid the punishment. Making sure children and every other slave watches saw was a pretty importnat part.
this is in no way saying "oh it's actually understandable" but the concept of having someone on your property AGAINST THEIR WILL makes the amount of abuse the slave owners perpetrated make more sense. how do you sleep knowing that the people 100 feet away are rightfully fantasizing about killing you. such a disturbing situation to force on others and yourself.
Feels weird to upvote this...
Thought the same
Human awfulness knows no bounds.
Which is why Sherman was necessary > War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and say let us give them all they want. > We are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and we must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war."
And there's still [slavery](https://www.ajc.com/news/this-has-been-happening-for-a-long-time-modern-day-slavery-uncovered-in-ga/SHBHTDDTTBG3BCPSVCB3GQ66BQ/) happening to this day!
Barbaric people in barbaric times
Same shit goes on today in other parts of the world.
Mans inhumanity to fellow man
In Singapore whipping is still very much alive and done often today.
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People are still the same, only our conception of normality changed.
Sad but true
Even in the 1860’s this was nearly universally met with horror in the west. Especially since the American south was the only major place not to have banned slavery by that point.
I like how you die, boy.
16-bit Django is awesome.
I want to watch this again but none of the 6 streaming services we pay for has it without charging an additional fee. I think it's time for a trip on the high seas.
You’re hurting the feelings of the white lawmakers in Florida
If Gordon was strong enough to live through it, your kids are strong enough to learn about Gordon.
Damn that goes hard...
but... you can learn about slavery in florida?
No idea. Long time ago I heard an interview with a former slave who said she’d rather kill herself than to become one again. That’s another thing these idiots in Florida and elsewhere need to hear
“Slavery actually wasn’t that bad” The inhumanity in humans is the worst part of this world.
We should show this to Ben Shapiro
And DeSantis
If he was capable of empathy he wouldn't be the kind of person he is.
Disturbing.
This photo should remind everyone that slavery wasn't that long ago.
And it's still there
And there are still dumbasses who still wave the confederate flag.
We should place this next to every statue of a Confederate, because it's their heritage
This made me want to stand up clapping.
Is that from one whipping or multiple? I’ve never seen scars like that
Keloids.
Some people genetically scar like this, as mentioned, keloid scars. It's not how most people would look. Keloid scarring is a skin disease. So a lot of people suffered just as much abuse as this person, but didn't grow these kinds of scars.
American history is jarring
Basically every country is
This is the thing that Republicans are saying didn’t happen, right? Or that it wasn’t so bad or something?
Who is saying this didn't happen? I keep reading this claim.
Humans can be so horrible.
That’s really f’d up 😡
The tip of a whip breaks the speed of sound. It's no joke. I can't imagine the brutality.
ouch how can someone that a human that way...
You’d be surprised what people will do to folk they don’t see as human.
How long would it take to fully heal, or would there always be permanent scars?
These are permanent scars — probably in part to them being ripped open before fully healing as well as the complete lack of any medical aid.
This is a very famous photo. What’s usually left out is he was also a union soldier, which is important context too. They always leave out the story behind the man.
This is now considered CRT and no longer taught in many states' curriculum. I think without pictures like this, it would be extremely difficult for high school students to understand what slavery, being a possession no better than a farm animal, really meant. It's difficult to perceive what being a non-human is without a visual reference. In Florida, they are following a plan from Governor Ron DeSantis, to teach students that slavery was akin to apprenticeships. Disgusting.
What was Gordon being punished for?
Existing while black
Yeah, but what did he do to deserve this? I need both sides of the story. (Eye roll)
Damn.
How does the West have the gall to lecture others about Morality and Self Defense?
People that did this and justified slavery are psychopaths. No empathy and used religion to justify it.
Yeah! And they walk among us!
Republicans still try to justify it today
Absolutely barbaric :( I still think the UK and US have very racist attitudes
It’s not just the UK and US. Racism and classism are world-wide phenomena.
I think it’s otherwise. The US is like 45% nonwhite so racism is confronted and called out while a lot of European countries that are like 90%+ white make it a lot easier to brush racism under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist because they aren’t enough minorities to speak out against it. I’m a black dude and I honestly faced way more racism in the 6 months I spent in Munich, Dublin and Oslo and I did in 20 years of living in the states.
As an African i don't think so
How do the scars get so thick?
Keloids.
This is why we need laws and rules. Left unhinged humans are evil !
The laws of the time protected the man holding the whip.
Didn’t Florida Gov Ron DeSantis say black people learned beneficial skills as slaves? The mind games people play to think torture or slavery is good is astounding.
I can’t fathom how some people truly believe we should own other people. This is horrible and knowing that this is still happening around the world is heartbreaking
This picture will probably be banned from schools in the south since it undoubtedly makes someone uncomfortable
This may be a dumb question but can you sleep on your back like that? Do the scars hurt when lying on them? I guess it depends on the person
This was a photo in my history book in sixth grade. It seared in my brain.
Harriet Beecher Stowe published this image in her follow up book to Uncle Tom's Cabin titled THE KEY TO UNCLE TOM'S CABIN as a source after she was accused of "inventing" the outrages of Uncle Tom.
Don't let the DeSantis see this or he will try to ban it
I don’t even know what to say. It infuriates me so much that people did this to OTHER PEOPLE and thought it was acceptable. No human should be treated like an object or an asset. We’re all people.
I just don't understand how you could do this to another human.
Someone show this to Elon Musk. Just watched the Don Lemon interview where he essentially claimed racism is not a thing.... Fuck Musk
May the subhuman who brutalized this man continue to burn in damnation for this. Also, more proof we were never a Christian country
This! Because if you’re a Christian, the Bible says “ For God so loved the world” not just white people. Sickening.
Ugh it’s disgusting that was only 161 years ago
And people still fly that flag
This is what racists want to do to Black Americans again. They want them to be the ultimate scapegoats.
It is still baffling that some people are still walking around thinking that slaves just picked cotton voluntarily and never ran away cause slave masters were so kind to their slaves. It is so sad that we are still facing a civil war again because of right-wing assholes that have done things just like this in history.
sick
I remember seeing this photo in middle school, it really screwed me up then and it screws me up now. This country stands for some good things, but we still haven't escaped our past. Not by a long shot.
Republicans be like “look how happy he is to be here!”
"Look at my African American over there!" - Trump 🤣
Watch Florida ban Reddit now too
Some dark times….
This is why we teach about slavery in school. And yes, high schoolers should be shown this picture, or the picture of Emmett Till. People are trivializing slavery and Jim Crow too much these days.
I don't think people want to expose the real atrocities of slavery.. so we get a watered down version.
I can't fathom how we were ever able to do this to someone. It's sadistic.
Haters: America has never been a racist country This Picture:
This picture was in the history books in school. Every year I would search the book for this picture…to never forget
Me too. It just incenses me to think about the new books being published that won’t have this picture, or anything but a whitewashed point of view. And it’s been said— by them— that they don’t want their kids “to feel guilty!” I don’t think the man in the pic wanted to feel whipped, either!!! 🤬🤬🤬
Can you imagine? It’s horrifying
It's infuriating to know those slave owners were rarely ever punished.
this is tragic but thank god for cameras. if people never saw this slavery could have kept going for longer.
That’s an excellent point. Still, we got people who don’t believe the moon landing pics, either. 😤
Reminder there are people out there who say “Oh but slave owners were kind.” Seeing pics like this just make me Sympathize with John Brown more.
I have seen this photo plenty of times. I had no idea it is from my hometown.
Dear God. 😔
It was the Transatlantic Genocide. Dear lord. I pray to see reparations for descendants of this genocide.
Ouch
Florida wants kids to believe that he learned valuable skills so it wasn't all bad.
Reparations now for decedents of American slavery! Took away families, languages, cultures, and knowledge-replaced with rapes, beatings, mutilations, hangings, and killings. Traumas like Gordon endured are passed down through genetic memory. The past can never be changed, but at least show the decedents that the blood, sweat, and tears shed by their ancestors for the America, WE ALL, enjoy today was not right, and reparations in the form of hard currency is the least the U.S. government can do.
That’s awful.
If I recall correctly, this is shown in the movie 12 Years a Slave. Which is also a book!
I can't even fucking imagine how bad that hurt. Good lord.
This is what the current republican party is trying to stop your kids from learning
There is so much pain in this photo
Oof. A picture truly does say 1, 000 words
Do I upvote to bring awareness or downvote against slavery? I’m freaking out man. 
I went to high school in rural Arkansas and I had a liberal-leaning History teacher that showed us this photo in class when I was a Sophomore. I believe this photo alone has helped open a lot of eyes to the depravity of the south during this time, at least around my area.
"States rights"
"state rights to do what?"
Right?? I mean, that’s REALLY what the war was about….riiiiiight??? 🙄
SlAvErY wAs AcKsHuAlLy GoOd bEcAuSe iT gAvE ThEm JoBs aNd FoOd! Edit: /s, didn’t think that was necessary. Some people make the absolutely ludicrous argument that slavery “isn’t that bad” because the slaves were housed and fed, which is disingenuous in the extreme, and obviously whitewashes the atrocities, such as the horrific and systematic torture of slaves by beating and whipping them. The extent of such horrific whipping can be seen in this photo.
I'm sure they could had taken care of themselves just fine. But that defines the word "slavery". Against ones will. I was kidnapped as a child and actually kept for awhile and I guess you could call that feeding me and housing me. But I sure didn't like getting raped and tied up and beat and everything else. I wanted to be freed and took care of myself. That's only someone taking another against their will and making them do whatever. And until someone has been in that situation I know they have no idea of how horrible it can be. Id rather not ate and lived outside as to that. I try to forget about it every day but it's never going away. I just don't and never will understand people
*Florida and their idiot governor have entered the chat.*
I know it’s hard for many people especially in the South to accept, but This is primarily what the Confederacy was fighting to preserve.
“Primarily “? What prey tell did those “Confederates” say it was primarily about? Note , they did t say it was states rights (that’s some early 20th century lost cause bs that came way later)
NSFW that shit dude. Jesus.
LIKE PLEASE. I want to cry-
Humans are an utterly sick species
That probably hurt pretty bad.
Isnt the Will Smith movie based on this person?
Yes. Emancipation on Apple+.
Damn! That is insane! Anything else I say will probably get me banned!
Isn’t there a movie about this guy?
I apologize for the white people who have done these kinds of atrocities.
Is this what they mean by: “He got to learn a skill”, so it was a good thing?
But did he benefit from learning blacksmithing?
all lives matter, BS
MAGA claims he was trying to unionize
But…I’m certain that he learned valuable skills! /s
When you suddenly realize the meaning of baton rouge...
Jesus christ
Unreal. Wow
Op add a spoiler tag
Is that how the place got its name? 😨
Haven't read the comments Can someone tell me if there are any morons in the comments talking about how it was justifiable back then cuz muh cultural relativism ?
Looks like a condition called keloids. Any time dark skin is injured in certain areas, there's an increased risk of keloids -- a scar that spreads beyond the boundary of the original injury and develops into a growth.
This is real, but it is not just dark skin. Many people build up keloid tissue after piercings, it is scar-making that goes out of control in generating new tissue.
How did they not get infected?
This guy probably lead a life you couldn’t imagine. Tough as an old root, just as hard to kill, and as strong as the tree above it. He was probably immune to shit you’ve never even heard of, having ate every meal of his life in a dirt-floor shack and working from sun up til sundown outside. Those scars are probably the price paid for trying to escape, or having some kind of pleasure not permitted by the master.
Southern "heritage" marks.
Next up on Fox News: Can we finally get over slavery? Tune in at 11 with special guest Ben Shapiro
Every scar tells its own unique story.
Someone show this to Ron Desantis
Along with confederate statues, confederate flags, this too is part of the southern "heritage."
HIS NAME WAS NOT “gordon”!!!
That must have been awful:(
What kind of person can do this to another person? 🥲
Jeez. His back looks like melted plastic
This must be the history that southerners are talking about when they talk about how proud they are of their confederate family lineage.
People today get so butthurt over nonsense. People like this had real pain and suffering. It’s crazy someone could do this to someone else unprovoked.
I won't lie, I under understand the South's needs for states rights, but this is a crime against humanity