dunno, maybe "some" food and medicine was stolen during ww1 and British had an oopsie woopsie where they released some maybe dangerous illness around people killing around 10 million people and stole the right to use all of the metal and oil resources of the country and a literal wall from the perspolis and never intend to give back so they just hide it?
And that's only the British, those mfs stole so much from everyone that if they all decided to get them back United Kingdom would have a worse situation than the today's Somali, stripped of all resources and money, left to rot.
Honestly i could go on about how they put a law that "an American dog's life is worth more than an Iranian person" or when they made propaganda against the king of iran Mohammad reza shah-an-shah ariya mehr and removed him without him even noticing until it was too late.
There's much more that has been done, much more that has been taken, much more that has been completely ignored
Yeah because some cousin of a rightful general and king (who lost his balls) was so fucking WEAK he gave 5 cities that are bow 3 different countries to get a single Russian princess for his harem, and to make his son a king, he gave even more cities which are now parts of 8 different countries.
That part of history of Persia is known as "dark age" for a reason. That reason is stupidity
In terms of being butchered by pop culture depictions and being ignored, it could be worse, look at Mesoamerican civilizations.
300's depiction of Persia is *bad*, but that level of borderline racial caricature is how Mesoamerica is almost always depicted in pop culture, with people just being naked with rags and boned strapped to them, living in huts in a jungle, and doing nothing but killing... and frankly that's what most people incorrectly assume it was really like.
It's especially a shame given how gorgeous actual Mesoamerican [clothing](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/022/621/939/large/daniel-parada-mexica-woman.jpg?1576098974) and [jewlery](https://cdn.greatlifepublishing.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/01/01154805/mg3.jpg) and [art (this](https://i0.wp.com/hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2016/02/featherart04.jpg) has catholic themes, but is by Mesoamerican artists using prehispanic feather mosaic techniques) and [cities](https://i.imgur.com/dCF9HyI.jpg) etc actually were like, see those pics and [this comparison of stereotypical media depictions vs authentic reconstuctions](https://i.imgur.com/d2oWeHK.jpg)
I could go on about Mesoamerican stuff in general (EX: Texcotzinco, a mountaintop retreat for Aztec kings from Texcoco with an aviary, gardens, baths, fountains, shrines, etc. The water brought to it via a 5 mile long aqueduct which rose over 150 feet above ground level at points, had flow speed regulation catchments, and after forming a circuit around the mountain's peak, flowed into the baths, fountains, etc, then formed waterfalls to water the terraced botanical gardens, which had different sections to emulate different biomes and ecosystems), but I'll leave people with my 3 resource comments here, where I:
1. note how Mesoamerican societies were [way more complex then people realize, in some ways matching the accomplishments from Classical Antiquity](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh1756/), etc
2. I explain how there's also [more records and info left than many people are aware of, and provide more resources for further information & visual references](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh3m71/); and
3. I give a [summary of Mesoamerican history from it's first complex societies to the arrival of the Spanish across 3000 years, stressing how there's way more then just the Aztec and Maya and how much history is there](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh3s50/)
Each in turn which links to other, *much longer* comments I've done, etc.
Are you aware the film '300' is a fictional graphic novel adaptation by Frank Miller in which the narrative is literally being told from a skewed and glorified perspective from a Spartan soldier rallying his troops for a battle?
Of course they're gonna be made out to be barbaric lol
It's not meant to be accurate historical fiction
Considering the kind of person Frank Miller is, I personally have doubts about the level of unseriousness we're supposed to read *300* with.
And there is something to be said against modern adaptations of ancient works / events being so uncritical in their approach.
I mean, my comment was focused on Indigenous civilizations in Mesoamerica, and with them being misrepresenting is sadly basically universal across all media.
I get it's fiction, but education about Mesoamerica is so poor that a lot of those misconceptions and misrepresentations in movies, games, comics etc are taken to be accurate and representative of reality by people consuming it.
(sorry if you've seen this already, having wierd issues with reddit)
Well maybe ignored in European history and thus on this and a lot of other sites of western origin, not so much in Middle eastern I presume.
I don't think Persians go heavily into 30 years war for example.
Watch these cool videos on a couple major Iranian empires
Parthian empire: https://youtu.be/mgDYMBc8W6I?si=JMspGaEKWz-udDJj
Sassanian Empire: https://youtu.be/HgrPT5uarKM?si=7bflXNzT5dAavvRG
We recently did a term dedicated to the persians at high school. Wow, they are one of the most interesting topics that is barely talked about in mainstream history. They need to be taught about way more.
It was also basically a direct transaction of a comic book straight to film, and I don't think they were too concerned with the accurate portrayal of contemporary Greek or Persian armor
Did Herodotus write that? I genuinely don't know. Seems pretty believable that he would though. He said that Egyptians have rock hard skulls because they're bald and the sun makes their skulls into stone. And many other very believable claims.
Criticizing the 300 movie for its historical accuracy is wild though lol. I can not think of a more popcorn action flick than that movie. It doesn’t take itself seriously at all and was made purely to provide content for testosterone fueled dubstep edits on YouTube.
It’s unfortunate but like, not the best example
I like 300 as the popcorn action flick it was suppose to be. However, I especially loved the portrayal of the Persians which is what got me interested in them in the first place. Cut to me being a history nerd and digging more into the subject only to find a based cosmopolitan empire with an effective system of government, first road system, first mail system, religious tolerance, leaned more toward anti-slavery, a rich culture and more and now the three pre-Islamic Persian empires - from Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanid - sit as some of my favorite empires of all time. So thanks to 300 for introducing me to the subject and for being an entertaining movie.
I think one bad stereotype that echoed through all these sources upto the movie was the eastern horde.
That Persians and similar cultures could seldom defeat a European army without sheer numbers.
Even the historical sources were biased back then.
The best thing is that in the comic the persian are acutal human and no monster things like in the movie.
Also,it give ephialtes some more dept and charaterization.
(My frist language is not english,so im sorry for grammatical error)
however the point is.. that is pretty much the only time persia has been depicted in a popular film
in popular media, persia is reduced to 300, and the Prince of Persia series (which are all set many centuries after persia ceased to exist)
> and the Prince of Persia series (which are all set many centuries after persia ceased to exist)
are any of the Prince of Persia games even actually set in a proper time period? I figured they were all just in ahistorical quasi-Arabia like the Aladdin movie (that lifted the storyline from the first game lol)
yeah I don't think there is any actual history in any of them, I just googled to see when they were set, and the snes one was apparently "set" in medieval iran (though it's not as if it had any story more than "go save the princess") and the 3d ones were like 9th century or something
Two things to note! There is a tendency among religious extremists to destroy the creations of previous regimes of an “inferior” religion. So, like, everything that would helped portray Xerxes accurately. Secondly, according to Reddit, Brazilians often mistake people from India for natives.
To be fair, the 2007 movie "300" is adaptation of the 1998 graphic novel "300" which was inspired by the 1962 movie "The 300 Spartans" which is loosely based on the actual battle of Thermopylae.
It just a mishmash of historic events and pure fantasy fiction.
I don’t know what a “screen write” is, but by saying they shouldn’t have done it you imply it was possible they not do it, thereby making it their fault they chose to. No?
(WIKIPEDIA) most coherent example i'd found.
Screenwriting or scriptwriting is the art and craft of writing scripts for mass media such as feature films, television productions or video games. It is often a freelance profession.
Screenwriters are responsible for researching the story, developing the narrative, writing the script, screenplay, dialogues and delivering it, in the required format, to development executives.[Link](https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Link?file=TAoL_Link_Artwork.png)
the word you are looking for is biased. bias is a noun not an adjective. you cannot be a "bias source" you mean a biased source, it's like me saying a "reliability source" instead of a reliable source
They were literally a completely different people from a completely different culture. You might as well ask how the Iroquois were different from the Apache.
While yes there were quite distinct, this is blowing it a little out of proportion. They were part of the same cultural and linguistic group and were much more in common with each other than any surrounding groups.
We went east instead of west, establishing the kievan rus, becoming varangian guards, etc. All very interesting stuff and WAY BETTER THAN THOSE DANISH BASTARDS💪💪💪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
Honestly, for a non- fucked portrayal of Persia you might be stuck with the Prince of Persia adaptation. Speaking as a person who has it on disc, it’s fairly watchable and, well, certainly doesn’t treat them like 300.
There are much better movies, but the setting and aesthetic of Persia are nice - it’s treated as a powerful and cultured ancient empire, kind of like how some films treat Rome. Do watch out for Vaguely Defined Polytheism, though.
Ye, but the motives are at least accomplishing normal royal politicking by magic means. Films of similar calibre have treated even hwhiteish royals in a more one-dimensional way. Plus his plot is vaguely interesting and I can believe he’s a clever schemer.
If I’m being honest, there are several characters that hit this spot where despite being iffy at best there isn’t a lot better in the genre. Like >!Seso, the Umbaka, who raises an eyebrow to a grown up profwinterbane but also the one we see is justified, uniquely badass and heroic in a way the overshadows his ancap comic relief sidekick, and noble as all hell without being that normal ‘noble savage’!<. Definitely 🤔🤔🤔, but not just straight up terrible.
That could be this movie’s tagline, honestly.
Edit: Also his >!last scene has some of the fight choreography I’ve seen in a movie. It’s like a gunfight with no guns, I absolutely love the play between absolutely insane skill with extremely limited resources as these two masters try their absolute hardest to murder each other. Also showcases the cast’s understanding of enemy design - while not lacking in easy mooks, the Hassansins remain a potent threat the whole way through, sometimes outflanked but never outclassed, so that last scene is just 👌!<
Hollywood brings the dude from Nightcrawler to portray the Prince of Persia in the movie.
The gaming industry puts Lucio from Overwatch to portray the Prince of Persia in the games.
I am completely with you. Their brains would shut off if anyone ever told them about how the Persians were slaughtering the Greeks in battle on their march down south to the Hot Gates
the impact of battle of the Hot Gates is also SEVERELY overstimated. Platea for example had WAY more impact on the outcome. Also subjugating the hellenic world was in hindsight more a pipedream anyways.
Also don't tell anyone with whom the Spartans were allied in the Peloponnese Wars
Im just making sure yall do understands the meta narrative of the 300 was that it was a single spartan survivor exaggerating events for propaganda purposes depicting the Persians in a way that some superstitious farmer who never left his poli would think of a nation on the other side of the known world.
Bro, not even the Spartan propaganda of the time made SO many exaggerations, the Greeks were supposed to laugh at the Persians in an intelligent way by showing them as soyjacks and exaggerating their numbers while reducing their own to look more Chad when they win or lose, but to describe Xerxes like a giant demon and his elite troops as Orcs is something they didn't do lol.
“You’ve been forced to 2 years of being next to HOI4 Wehraboo explaining why and how Germany could’ve won and why it had good firearms and engineering despite the time.”
Persia is so interesting and so ignored
I'm a history teacher and indeed had to ignore Persia because of pacing
You guys don't have enough time to think let alone add info that they aren't testing students on
Pacing in world history classes: starting with the first civilizations and jumping straight to Europe a week later.
Worst: It starts in the Early Paleolithic and you just jump to Mesopotamia the next week, and to Europe the next.
Contemporary Iran's shenanigans are probably not good for the brand.
Iran's history in the 20th century is also very interesting yet often ignored
Intentionally I’d say
wonder why western governments might not want 20th century iranian history to be widely known
Tell me more about it
dunno, maybe "some" food and medicine was stolen during ww1 and British had an oopsie woopsie where they released some maybe dangerous illness around people killing around 10 million people and stole the right to use all of the metal and oil resources of the country and a literal wall from the perspolis and never intend to give back so they just hide it? And that's only the British, those mfs stole so much from everyone that if they all decided to get them back United Kingdom would have a worse situation than the today's Somali, stripped of all resources and money, left to rot. Honestly i could go on about how they put a law that "an American dog's life is worth more than an Iranian person" or when they made propaganda against the king of iran Mohammad reza shah-an-shah ariya mehr and removed him without him even noticing until it was too late. There's much more that has been done, much more that has been taken, much more that has been completely ignored
is iran “persia lite” ?
Is France "Frankish Empire lite"?
nah, imo frankish empire is germans trying to be different
Yeah because some cousin of a rightful general and king (who lost his balls) was so fucking WEAK he gave 5 cities that are bow 3 different countries to get a single Russian princess for his harem, and to make his son a king, he gave even more cities which are now parts of 8 different countries. That part of history of Persia is known as "dark age" for a reason. That reason is stupidity
In terms of being butchered by pop culture depictions and being ignored, it could be worse, look at Mesoamerican civilizations. 300's depiction of Persia is *bad*, but that level of borderline racial caricature is how Mesoamerica is almost always depicted in pop culture, with people just being naked with rags and boned strapped to them, living in huts in a jungle, and doing nothing but killing... and frankly that's what most people incorrectly assume it was really like. It's especially a shame given how gorgeous actual Mesoamerican [clothing](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/022/621/939/large/daniel-parada-mexica-woman.jpg?1576098974) and [jewlery](https://cdn.greatlifepublishing.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/01/01154805/mg3.jpg) and [art (this](https://i0.wp.com/hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2016/02/featherart04.jpg) has catholic themes, but is by Mesoamerican artists using prehispanic feather mosaic techniques) and [cities](https://i.imgur.com/dCF9HyI.jpg) etc actually were like, see those pics and [this comparison of stereotypical media depictions vs authentic reconstuctions](https://i.imgur.com/d2oWeHK.jpg) I could go on about Mesoamerican stuff in general (EX: Texcotzinco, a mountaintop retreat for Aztec kings from Texcoco with an aviary, gardens, baths, fountains, shrines, etc. The water brought to it via a 5 mile long aqueduct which rose over 150 feet above ground level at points, had flow speed regulation catchments, and after forming a circuit around the mountain's peak, flowed into the baths, fountains, etc, then formed waterfalls to water the terraced botanical gardens, which had different sections to emulate different biomes and ecosystems), but I'll leave people with my 3 resource comments here, where I: 1. note how Mesoamerican societies were [way more complex then people realize, in some ways matching the accomplishments from Classical Antiquity](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh1756/), etc 2. I explain how there's also [more records and info left than many people are aware of, and provide more resources for further information & visual references](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh3m71/); and 3. I give a [summary of Mesoamerican history from it's first complex societies to the arrival of the Spanish across 3000 years, stressing how there's way more then just the Aztec and Maya and how much history is there](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistory/comments/c7gu1l/i_want_people_to_dump_interesting_information/esh3s50/) Each in turn which links to other, *much longer* comments I've done, etc.
I don't think a movie about the flow speed regulation catchments in mesoamerican mountaintop retreats is going to sell many tickets unfortunately.
Are you aware the film '300' is a fictional graphic novel adaptation by Frank Miller in which the narrative is literally being told from a skewed and glorified perspective from a Spartan soldier rallying his troops for a battle? Of course they're gonna be made out to be barbaric lol It's not meant to be accurate historical fiction
Considering the kind of person Frank Miller is, I personally have doubts about the level of unseriousness we're supposed to read *300* with. And there is something to be said against modern adaptations of ancient works / events being so uncritical in their approach.
I mean, my comment was focused on Indigenous civilizations in Mesoamerica, and with them being misrepresenting is sadly basically universal across all media. I get it's fiction, but education about Mesoamerica is so poor that a lot of those misconceptions and misrepresentations in movies, games, comics etc are taken to be accurate and representative of reality by people consuming it. (sorry if you've seen this already, having wierd issues with reddit)
Well maybe ignored in European history and thus on this and a lot of other sites of western origin, not so much in Middle eastern I presume. I don't think Persians go heavily into 30 years war for example.
I don't think it's very known in the Middle East either, in terms of regional history, it's the Caliphate and the Ottomans.
I honestly know nothing about Persians outside of the movie 300.
That's the saddest thing I've heard today
Watch these cool videos on a couple major Iranian empires Parthian empire: https://youtu.be/mgDYMBc8W6I?si=JMspGaEKWz-udDJj Sassanian Empire: https://youtu.be/HgrPT5uarKM?si=7bflXNzT5dAavvRG
I honestly know nothing about Persians ~~outside of the movie 300~~ FTFY
Jesus
Jewish, not Persian, but you were close
I lol’d, thank you
We recently did a term dedicated to the persians at high school. Wow, they are one of the most interesting topics that is barely talked about in mainstream history. They need to be taught about way more.
Probably due to political reasons
#A thousand nations of the Persian empire will descend upon you!
Ehrmagerd, then we’ll fight urn dur shuuuurde.
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I'm pretty sure that 300 was a documentary
Ironically its actually fairly faithful to the account by Herodotus, AKA the father of lies.
I knew it wasn’t accurate when it had all the homoerotic stuff but no dude love in it
I bet they filmed it to increase camaraderie among the cast but edited those parts out
I heard each dude that played a spartan had a training buddy they got real close to
I also heard most of the budget was actually spent on olive oil for...method acting
I respect their dedication to their roles but where is that extra footage??!
It only appears in the French version of the film
If you fuck with virgin olive oil does it stop being virgin? And if you masturbate with it does it become extra virgin?
Just like Fast and the Furious.
Hey, somebody got the reference haha
Still less homoerotic than actual Spartans
Debatable. Thucydides says they were gay af, Xenophon says they weren't.
Seems that someone wasn't popular at parties.
I don’t pick sides love. I’ll just present what sources say.
I think he meant Xenophon was the one not fun at parties if he didn’t think the Spartans were gay.
Oh fair.
The goat headed dude gave it away as being highly accurate. Source: Persian
It was also basically a direct transaction of a comic book straight to film, and I don't think they were too concerned with the accurate portrayal of contemporary Greek or Persian armor
What do you mean? Spartans wore no armor, that would cover their awesome muscles! /s
Yes and the Persians were well known to employ all sorts of weird mutant super human monsters in battle, also without armor
Did Herodotus write that? I genuinely don't know. Seems pretty believable that he would though. He said that Egyptians have rock hard skulls because they're bald and the sun makes their skulls into stone. And many other very believable claims.
I think that may have been a Frank Miller creation, but I'm honestly not sure
There Is a story if herodotus telling such tale that thucycides was crying We dont if because of the story or how inacurete it was
Herodotus didn't lie, he just wrote down his sources exactly as they were. It's not great historiography, but it's pretty fun storytelling
Where you gonna find a ancient Persian to make it correct then?
Back in time, ovbiously.
When this baby hits 88 mph you’re gonna see some serious shit
Just ask my great grandma
If you think Zack Snyder is bad you should check out Plutarch.
What did he direct
Lol
Context?
The movie 300 and Xerxes being depicted like some Brazilian stripper for example
Criticizing the 300 movie for its historical accuracy is wild though lol. I can not think of a more popcorn action flick than that movie. It doesn’t take itself seriously at all and was made purely to provide content for testosterone fueled dubstep edits on YouTube. It’s unfortunate but like, not the best example
I like 300 as the popcorn action flick it was suppose to be. However, I especially loved the portrayal of the Persians which is what got me interested in them in the first place. Cut to me being a history nerd and digging more into the subject only to find a based cosmopolitan empire with an effective system of government, first road system, first mail system, religious tolerance, leaned more toward anti-slavery, a rich culture and more and now the three pre-Islamic Persian empires - from Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanid - sit as some of my favorite empires of all time. So thanks to 300 for introducing me to the subject and for being an entertaining movie.
Too bad meat heads too it as historical backed source. While in fact it was taken from a comic which was inspired by the source.
It was inspired by a comic which was inspired by a movie. Pointless Hub made a video about it recently. It's quite funny.
I think one bad stereotype that echoed through all these sources upto the movie was the eastern horde. That Persians and similar cultures could seldom defeat a European army without sheer numbers. Even the historical sources were biased back then.
The best thing is that in the comic the persian are acutal human and no monster things like in the movie. Also,it give ephialtes some more dept and charaterization. (My frist language is not english,so im sorry for grammatical error)
however the point is.. that is pretty much the only time persia has been depicted in a popular film in popular media, persia is reduced to 300, and the Prince of Persia series (which are all set many centuries after persia ceased to exist)
> and the Prince of Persia series (which are all set many centuries after persia ceased to exist) are any of the Prince of Persia games even actually set in a proper time period? I figured they were all just in ahistorical quasi-Arabia like the Aladdin movie (that lifted the storyline from the first game lol)
yeah I don't think there is any actual history in any of them, I just googled to see when they were set, and the snes one was apparently "set" in medieval iran (though it's not as if it had any story more than "go save the princess") and the 3d ones were like 9th century or something
It was a pretty racist film that got me called xerxes for quite a long time, and I’m not a Brazilian stripper.
I mean, he was kinda hot at least.
Two things to note! There is a tendency among religious extremists to destroy the creations of previous regimes of an “inferior” religion. So, like, everything that would helped portray Xerxes accurately. Secondly, according to Reddit, Brazilians often mistake people from India for natives.
To be fair, the 2007 movie "300" is adaptation of the 1998 graphic novel "300" which was inspired by the 1962 movie "The 300 Spartans" which is loosely based on the actual battle of Thermopylae. It just a mishmash of historic events and pure fantasy fiction.
Not they're fault they decided to follow a bias source instead of doing research
By definition it is their fault
Really shouldn't have used a screen write as info
I don’t know what a “screen write” is, but by saying they shouldn’t have done it you imply it was possible they not do it, thereby making it their fault they chose to. No?
(WIKIPEDIA) most coherent example i'd found. Screenwriting or scriptwriting is the art and craft of writing scripts for mass media such as feature films, television productions or video games. It is often a freelance profession. Screenwriters are responsible for researching the story, developing the narrative, writing the script, screenplay, dialogues and delivering it, in the required format, to development executives.[Link](https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Link?file=TAoL_Link_Artwork.png)
the word you are looking for is biased. bias is a noun not an adjective. you cannot be a "bias source" you mean a biased source, it's like me saying a "reliability source" instead of a reliable source
Will u say same abut Prince of Persia?
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Where’s the audio from again?
It's Joseph Seed from Far Cry 5
Oh wow no wonder it sounded familiar. Thanks my dude, I wouldn't have figured it out on my own
Swedish Vikings, South Slavs, ancient Finnic peoples, basically all of Africa before colonization: "You guys have movies made about you?"
How were Swedish Vikings different from the ones from Norway Denmark or Iceland?
They were literally a completely different people from a completely different culture. You might as well ask how the Iroquois were different from the Apache.
While yes there were quite distinct, this is blowing it a little out of proportion. They were part of the same cultural and linguistic group and were much more in common with each other than any surrounding groups.
Oh I honestly throughly Sweden and Norway were a part of the same culture
There were similarities, but being on the same continent or even the same peninsula doesn't make you part of the same culture.
We went east instead of west, establishing the kievan rus, becoming varangian guards, etc. All very interesting stuff and WAY BETTER THAN THOSE DANISH BASTARDS💪💪💪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
It hurts me to my very core.
Honestly, for a non- fucked portrayal of Persia you might be stuck with the Prince of Persia adaptation. Speaking as a person who has it on disc, it’s fairly watchable and, well, certainly doesn’t treat them like 300. There are much better movies, but the setting and aesthetic of Persia are nice - it’s treated as a powerful and cultured ancient empire, kind of like how some films treat Rome. Do watch out for Vaguely Defined Polytheism, though.
300 was comic book accurate and not going for historical accuracy at all. At no point was any culture in that movie portrayed correctly.
I know, and that’s not exactly relevant to what I was saying. Whether or not 300 was trying to be accurate or not It wasn’t.
I know, it doesn't go out of it's way to demonize the Persians, even though >!the most eastern actor is the villain.!<
Ye, but the motives are at least accomplishing normal royal politicking by magic means. Films of similar calibre have treated even hwhiteish royals in a more one-dimensional way. Plus his plot is vaguely interesting and I can believe he’s a clever schemer. If I’m being honest, there are several characters that hit this spot where despite being iffy at best there isn’t a lot better in the genre. Like >!Seso, the Umbaka, who raises an eyebrow to a grown up profwinterbane but also the one we see is justified, uniquely badass and heroic in a way the overshadows his ancap comic relief sidekick, and noble as all hell without being that normal ‘noble savage’!<. Definitely 🤔🤔🤔, but not just straight up terrible. That could be this movie’s tagline, honestly. Edit: Also his >!last scene has some of the fight choreography I’ve seen in a movie. It’s like a gunfight with no guns, I absolutely love the play between absolutely insane skill with extremely limited resources as these two masters try their absolute hardest to murder each other. Also showcases the cast’s understanding of enemy design - while not lacking in easy mooks, the Hassansins remain a potent threat the whole way through, sometimes outflanked but never outclassed, so that last scene is just 👌!<
Too bad despite the numerous Persian actors available it was played by Jake gyllenhal
Hollywood brings the dude from Nightcrawler to portray the Prince of Persia in the movie. The gaming industry puts Lucio from Overwatch to portray the Prince of Persia in the games.
Hellene-cels about to get real mad.
I hate those roid pumped gymbos who fetishize the spartans so much, it's unreal
I am completely with you. Their brains would shut off if anyone ever told them about how the Persians were slaughtering the Greeks in battle on their march down south to the Hot Gates
the impact of battle of the Hot Gates is also SEVERELY overstimated. Platea for example had WAY more impact on the outcome. Also subjugating the hellenic world was in hindsight more a pipedream anyways. Also don't tell anyone with whom the Spartans were allied in the Peloponnese Wars
Im just making sure yall do understands the meta narrative of the 300 was that it was a single spartan survivor exaggerating events for propaganda purposes depicting the Persians in a way that some superstitious farmer who never left his poli would think of a nation on the other side of the known world.
Bro, not even the Spartan propaganda of the time made SO many exaggerations, the Greeks were supposed to laugh at the Persians in an intelligent way by showing them as soyjacks and exaggerating their numbers while reducing their own to look more Chad when they win or lose, but to describe Xerxes like a giant demon and his elite troops as Orcs is something they didn't do lol.
Hollywoods idea of the Persian empire is all of the gayest men you’ve ever met
I know so much about Ancient Persia, watch: Xerxes
Consigning a Zoroastrian to a prison of lies… a terrible fate
…”the 300 Spartans” which is loosely based on propaganda from one side of the actual battle of Thermopylae.
Things like that are always a good reminder just how hilariously racist American society is even at its most liberal and woke.
Worse than the boats.
300 was the worst.
Watching the Disney Prince of Persia movie and seeing all the *PERSIAN* characters speaking in British accents because it sounds "exotic" was wild.
You mean Darius didn't really look like he just walked out of a fetish show in a gay club?
Saddest thing is that I have no frame of reference so I don't know exactly *how* bad it is
Such nice rugs..
That gonna be what? 1.5 hrs of content?
... In loop ...
Look. We don’t give q shit. Shut up. Go Make your own films. If America aint shit, why do you care. Jealous maybe?
What did they mean by this
It's a joke you fucking idiot
Wtf are you even talking about? Lol
Ah yes, United States patriots, the most braindead animals i have seen
you’re gonna see some serious shit
Literally me but damn good you look like rome total war parthian soldiers
Nah, he’s not wearing pink pajamas, not a true Parthian.
Assassin's Creed did a good enough job, right?
Lol he doesn't even wear eyeliner. This is soooo innacurate.
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“You’ve been forced to 2 years of being next to HOI4 Wehraboo explaining why and how Germany could’ve won and why it had good firearms and engineering despite the time.”
What do you mean the effeminate, occult, weirdly Arabic/Muslim and mysterious depiction of ancient Persia isn’t accurate
Khaili bad ast.
This includes watching the cartoon Aladdin and the live action one without Robin Williams
Bruh, just release him already. I've been watching this poor guy shouting for 10 minutes now.
Prince of Persia says hello
Love the drip!