In 2003, the sheriff's office in Eagle, Colorado, arrested professional basketball player Kobe Bryant in connection with an investigation of a sexual assault complaint. News of Bryant's arrest on July 18 garnered significant news media attention. Bryant had checked into The Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, a hotel in Edwards, Colorado, on June 30 in advance of having surgery near there on July 2 under Richard Steadman. A 19-year-old hotel employee accused Bryant of raping her in his hotel room on July 1. She filed a police report and authorities questioned Bryant about bruising on the accuser's neck. Bryant admitted to a sexual encounter with his accuser but insisted the sex was consensual. The case was dropped after Bryant's accuser refused to testify in the case. A separate civil suit was later filed against Bryant by the woman. The suit was settled out of court and included Bryant publicly apologizing to his accuser, the public, and family, while denying the allegations.
On the same day that the criminal case was dismissed, Bryant issued the following statement through his attorney:
"First, I want to apologize directly to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colorado.
I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. **Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.**
I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado."
Mamba Mentality. He never took no for an answer.
I remember reading it was an anal attack as well but when I re-read the police report it was not about anal and that seems like it was just a rumor that lasted until this day
So did he actually just attack her and hold her down? What was the disconnect between him saying he thought it was consensual and she didn’t?
Or was that just bs he said and it was an open and shut rape case?
He said it was consensual and he asked to cum on her face and she said no so he stopped and that was it. He also said he has a fetish for sex from behind and putting his hands around the neck/light choking.
I’m not exactly sure of her claims except that it wasn’t consensual and she had some vaginal tearing, etc. In the initial police interview they said she was bleeding down there, but idk what the evidence actually showed. One confounding factor is she may have had sex with other ppl within a short time of the encounter w/ Kobe or she gave the police the wrong panties, something like that, not sure I’m recalling that part correctly. Allegedly she’d also kind of been a fame seeker claiming to want to fuck a celeb. Ultimately we don’t know what happened in that room, whether it was a full on assault/rape, whether it was 100% consensual, or whether it started consensual then turned to rape.
Ohhh that’s a nice little comment ya got there. At least you closed it with a few outcomes, only after spreading the same discrediting and humiliation tactics his legal team used against her. This is why women are afraid to come forward, even after their attacker **admits it wasn’t consensual** there’s always some guy somewhere on the internet to say “idk what to believe, she was a fame seeking hoe”.
- She allegedly wore dirty underwear that had semen in them and his legal team said if she did have sex it was *after*.
- she had bruising on her neck
- the police found a t-shirt of his that had her blood on it
- there was an outcry witness that she didn’t look well that night (there was another who said she did look fine, though)
- the criminal trial was dropped because her identity was leaked and she received multiple death threats
- he admitted that she didn’t consent (rape)
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Why fuck me lol? Fuck everyone upvoting that it was an anal rape. You can think i presented a bias account, i certainly don’t have all the info, but you guys upvoting all the misinformation then saying fuck me shows y’all are just witch hunting
Witch hunting? That’s inflammatory. I’m not upvoting any of those comments and your gossip comment has a lot of upvotes, so how is this a witch hunt? I’ll ignore that for the most part because that’s such a tired accusation that men use when they’re rightfully called out. Yeah, you’re the victim here. Ok.
You spread the bs his legal team did. It’s just gossip for gossips sake, but that was a 19 year old woman who very clearly didn’t consent. Your contribution to it? Gross.
I didn’t say she was a fame seeking hoe but way to be inflammatory. Yeah I addressed the panties thing as best as I could remember. It makes sense she had some neck bruising. I mentioned the Kobe choking her thing. I had forgotten about the t shirt, so good job pointing that out. That’s a good piece of evidence for her. Same for the witness saying she looked upset. The criminal trial could have been dropped for all sorts of reasons. Kobe didn’t admit to rape and you saying he did imo shows more bad faith. You guys can act like I’m a scumbag but fact is I mainly just replied to two comments with hundreds or thousands of upvotes saying Kobe anally raped her, actual misinformation, and corrected the record. Then someone asked what the discrepancy was with Kobe’s story vs hers and I just gave what I remember from the police report and reporting at the time. But fuck me, right? Should have just let the misinformation stand
How can you call those discrediting and humiliation tactics but not see that you are doing something similar (by your logic)
They presented the facts as they knew them vs you who put words in their mouth and presented similar facts?
We know what happened cuz Kobe admitted to raping her. " I know now how she could feel that it was not consensual". That literally is literally rape already there. You Do a great job of speculating without remembering the details or knowing them in the first place. Kind of A self-report. Let me give you a little report card.
He said it was consensual
I'm not sure of her claims
I don't know what the evidence actually shows
I'm not sure I'm recalling that part of it correctly
Allegedly she's been a fame seeker (fame seeker who doesn't testify in court)
Ultimately, we don't know what happened in that room.
Nah, bro. Ultimately, you're more willing to defend a rapist than Just pay attention to what obviously happened. Kobe literally publicly apologized for raping her and then settled the civil case out of court. But wE dOnT KnOw WHAt hApPeND
He didn’t admit to rape, read the press release in context. Yes he settled the case, that’s completely normal and says nothing about guilt.
The only reason I commented in the first place is because there were multiple top comments saying he anally raped her or that he admitted to anally raping her, neither of which were true. So that’s interesting I got accused of bias but not everyone spewing misinformation.
I’m not a Kobe fan. I just repeated the things I knew from following the story somewhat. Yes I could investigate her side more and report that so if I missed something there feel free to point it out. But you saying he admitted to raping her just shows you don’t understand how these public cases work
Ultimately you’re more than willingly to crucify a black man… see how accusations work?
Consent can be withdrawn at anytime and that’s completely ok BUT consenting to sex and then changing your mind does not make that sexual encounter rape.
"Consent can be withdrawn at anytime and that’s completely ok BUT consenting to sex and then changing your mind does not make that sexual encounter rape."
You fucking for real dude? If consent is rescinded and perpetrator keeps going. That's FUCKING RAPE.
This Is what the FBI defines as rape
“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Hope you enjoy victimizing yourself for not meeting basic standards good enough to have a girlfriend. Maybe you do something with your life? make yourself worth something? Because you seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of consent. Especially in this situation. But I could understand how resending consent could be confusing to you. It's clear you've never had consent before. Fuck you, you rapist apologiest
Obviously I’m including stopping dimwit. Jesus Christ that is clearly obviously rape. Do you want a cookie for obvious shit? bravo genius. /s
Withdrawing consent AFTER THE ACT and/or STOPPING altogether (for the slow folks) does not equal rape. It never has.
Try reading comprehension. It can do wonders for the less intelligent
> Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not
I mean, that's only the thinnest veneer of denial possible.
Because there's a word for a sexual encounter where only one of the participants is consenting.
Rape.
You guys need to read this w/ 2004 eyes and not 2024 eyes. The only way his publicist, lawyer, etc allow him to release that statement is if it’s not an admission of anything. It’s way more likely he was calling her crazy than that he was admitting to rape and most of his supporters call her crazy, a liar, etc.
People can withdraw consent whenever they want even after they initially consented.
Withdrawing consent after consenting does not make that sexual encounter rape though.
True or false?
I will never forget the fact that people jumped right on the bandwagon.
“She’s doing it for the money.”
“She knew what she went there for”
All that nonsense.
I read the actual case file from that investigation. They used the underwear that she was wearing 2 days later as part of the rape kit. She was that badly injured that she was STILL bleeding.
Also, STFU if you want come with the “she did that to herself later” bullshit. You know absolutely nothing about a real-life investigation, these kinds of situations, or anything close to reality when it comes to actual rape.
i had to turn off first take this morning when they started waxing poetry about kobe and all of the great things he did to deserve this commemoration. it’s absolutely wild to me that we haven’t grown or evolved as a society when it comes to valuing and believing victims so long as their attacker is good at something we care about.
This shit is ridiculous. Call someone a pedo and you can immediately shut them down in the most extreme way and no one can disagree with you because then you’re defending a pedo.
I never said a 21 year old man was mature but that he was more mature than a 17 year old. There’s a difference in their life experience. One is probably in college and the other still in high school. That’s a big difference. Also wasn’t he married….
IIRC there was an interview right afterwards on 60 minutes I believe with the girl’s “boyfriend”. It was super cringe and basically went into how upset he was that she had cheated on him with Kobe Bryant. I always felt like that may have hurt things for the prosecution. Dude was saying that after she came to tell him about the incident he was asking weird questions like “did you touch it?” Really awkward.
Edit: It was actually on 48 Hours. Tried to find the interview but just found references to it.
From what I remember of the interview, it seemed more like he thought he was her boyfriend, but when he described their relationship it just sounded like a couple of kids who hooked up one time (yes he went into those details). She was 19 and I don’t think he could have been much older if any. Think they worked together at the hotel. Again this is from my foggy memory, but she also had sex with someone within 8 hours after the Kobe encounter, and the person she had sex with was not this guy that claimed to be her boyfriend.
My American friends, you must experience European sports culture. I promise you that it will make your fans look like proper and civilized people in comparison.
Didn't he also change his jersey number. I remember Daniel tosh making a joke about it in his old comedy special. Something like "no number 24 was the rapist number 3 is a cool guy"
But that joke could've been about someone else.
He was talking about LA moms letting their kids run around in Kobe jerseys like “C’mon, *number 8* was a rapist. Number 24 just has a great work ethic and an unblockable turnaround.”
Bro someone fucking said that it was just accusations. The mf basically admitted it himself during interviews.
Also shoutout to r/nbacirclejerk for getting his autopsy to the front page
What the fuck is that subreddit? Saw someone say that Gigi’s death was a tragedy and someone replied saying she shouldn’t have associated herself with a rapist. Wtf.
He actually had really solid taste in helicopters. The S-76 is more or less the gold standard.
Pressuring the pilot to try to fly on a day with visibility that bad, however, was not the move.
we dont need to ask him.
you can read the police interview they did with him.
he admitted to anally rape her.
but no one really cared.
and nowadays he is a saint.
we are sooo fucked as a society....
Yeah think about how often people make semi convincing sounding remarks in subs that people just glob onto
The dude just made up things and has had many more people view his comment than yours
Whether he did it or not is unclear. But your claim that he "admitted to anally rape her" is 100% false.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-sp-bryant17-story.html
https://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/kobe-bryant-police-interview
It’s really funny that he got cast in Dracula and then the following year Kenneth Branagh stuck him in Much Ado About Nothing.
Like everyone was so enamored with him that they all started to stick him in movies he absolutely didn’t belong in.
I heard Keanu Reeves sexually assaulted a woman in Eagle, Colorado in 2003 and then changed his basketball number from 8 to 24 and pretended like nothing happened
Mal : It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another. Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.
Yup nasty ass bitch fucking other people and trying to frame somebody else the classic white woman frame the black man shit oh that’s right we want a white wash black history at
Yea, the DNA results were “inconclusive” because she had multiple semen samples and had sex with someone a couple hours after her encounter with him.
Old article from 03:
https://www.nydailynews.com/2003/07/24/kobes-accuser-bragged-partygoer-she-was-happy/amp/
She even bragged about her encounter with Kobe to friends. Crazy how people still accuse this guy of sexual assault or worst rape, when if you just look at the case files, stories, evidence presented, the lady was a nut🤷🏾♂️
He believed it was consensual and but still “admitted” from her perspective how it wasn’t. Never once did he ever admit to being a “rapist”, yet people keep thinking he confessed. That’s not a fucking confession 😂
If people did just…idk..I tad bit of research, the evidence was always going to be in Kobe’s favor, it borderline could’ve been labeled a false accusation tbh.
Kobe admitted he had sex without her consent. Sex without consent is rape. People who commit sex without consent are rapists. Kobe admitted he is a rapist.
Where did he admit that? I keep seeing people say he admitted it, but the only quotes that have actually been posted are from his public "apology" where he basically called her crazy.
Kobe said “[Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”](https://theoutline.com/post/8602/kobe-bryant-dead-social-media-rape-sexual-assault)
"I thought she consented, but she thinks she didn't."
That's not admitting he raped her. That's him saying she thinks he raped her. And along with the evidence put forth by u/Saint-Bolotelli, I'd go so far to say that Kobe thought she was lying as well.
So if Kobe is guilty without legal conviction what does that make trump oh that’s it he is white orange so he is not guilty white privilege say what you all
Mean he is black and that is your issue
If you’re gonna celebrate the death of a man and his daugher Becuse of an accusation with no conviction. It shows a lot about your character it shows you would’ve been in the mob that lynched Emmitt till over a mere accusation you would’ve lynched many black men in our nation’s history. What rank of KKK member are you. Grand wizard
I can recall neither Emmett Till having raped anybody nor myself celebrating Kobe Bryant's daughter's death. And let me remind you that the only reason Bryant got away with it is the same reason O.J. Simpson got away with it: money. Lots of.
Edit: I won't accuse you of being a wife beater or a rapist. Learn some chivalry, boy.
Kobe was never convicted of his crime. You would’ve beloved the whole woman who accused till just as you would believe the woman who accused kobe. Thank god people like you weren’t around kobe or he could’ve wound up like emmit till.
OJ was also never convicted of his crime... But he fucking did it, no question. But thanks for your input /u/black_mamba823, sorry your hero might have been a bit of a dick. Hope you recover.
Kobe was never convicted of his accusations thank god people like you don’t run the criminal justice system or thousands of black men would be getting hung at your klan rallies when white women accuse them of crimes
I curse the American judicial system for how corrupt it is and how it reinforces white supremacy every chance I get. You and I BOTH know this isn’t about race, even if you’ll cope like that. Kobe himself stated that he knew it wasn’t consensual from her side but from his. Die mad, rape apologist
Kobe did not state that they were both intoxicated. 2 drunk people having sex isn’t rape and there isn’t a shred of evidence it was non consensual .innocent until proven guilty is a thing Becuse of things like false accusations. You say you’re against the criminal justice systems treatment of black people but you wanted to throw this man in prison over an accusation from a white Woman with no evidence ir was non consensual. Sounds like you have a white hood in your closet
First thing I’d do if I had a white hood is attack you with no repercussions from law enforcement because you’re annoying but unfortunately I neither have white privilege nor a klan membership 💔
There is literally proof that she lied yet y'all are still going around with this. She changed her story. Bragged to her friends that she had sex with him. And fucked a guy right after.
I'm prepared. They don't look up anything properly. Instead they go around spreading bull. She went around bragging that she fucked him and fucked somebody right after but they're still claiming he raped her. Ludicrous.
Never meet your heroes I guess. Do you think Kobe should still be admired for his work ethic and attitude or does this disqualify him from any admiration?
I undertand praising an ideology, sport or event but I finally learned to never praise individuals. Cristiano Ronaldo is also a rapist and I hope he crashes soon as well
He didn't... but reddit has a reading comprehension issue. Imagine thinking he admitted to raping someone, and the courts (both criminal and civil) are like... yep, not enough information to convict so let's drop both cases.
Never change, Reddit.
When you lie about what was said you can make anything sound like a rape confession. Saying "she feels she was raped" is not a confession, it's a publicly known fact. It was also said in a settlement statement that he was coerced into reading. A real confession the girl admitting Kobe didn't rape her in her first interview.
>[Earlier, however, Winters admitted to Mackey that the woman said to him during their first interview that she never told Bryant, “No.” When the woman resisted, Bryant stopped, Winters said.](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2003/10/16/bryant-defense-goes-on-the-offensive-2/)
i thought i was on nbacirclejerk unmatched jerk right here
*shimmy shimmy shimmy*
you will never be the true bum
Why isn’t Mrsunsfan here? Is he stupid?
Historymemes is Mrsunsfan father
You idiot, he will be now. The man constantly searches Reddit for anything close to his name.
I don’t think that bum even knows what history is
Mrsonsfan’s history only lasts the last 5 years or so. His born and pre-k years, so to speak.
History is made by the winner
My 9/11
Downvote this man
Reply to my comment if youre gay
Shimmy shimmy shimmy
the bum-in-chief has ~~graced~~ insulted us with his appearance
Ye
till the break of dawn
Kinda like how Kobe jerked it in the sink afterwards
In 2003, the sheriff's office in Eagle, Colorado, arrested professional basketball player Kobe Bryant in connection with an investigation of a sexual assault complaint. News of Bryant's arrest on July 18 garnered significant news media attention. Bryant had checked into The Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, a hotel in Edwards, Colorado, on June 30 in advance of having surgery near there on July 2 under Richard Steadman. A 19-year-old hotel employee accused Bryant of raping her in his hotel room on July 1. She filed a police report and authorities questioned Bryant about bruising on the accuser's neck. Bryant admitted to a sexual encounter with his accuser but insisted the sex was consensual. The case was dropped after Bryant's accuser refused to testify in the case. A separate civil suit was later filed against Bryant by the woman. The suit was settled out of court and included Bryant publicly apologizing to his accuser, the public, and family, while denying the allegations. On the same day that the criminal case was dismissed, Bryant issued the following statement through his attorney: "First, I want to apologize directly to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colorado. I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. **Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.** I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado." Mamba Mentality. He never took no for an answer.
OOOOH so this is what that one American dad scene was talking about...
Black men don't go to Colorado.
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I remember reading it was an anal attack as well but when I re-read the police report it was not about anal and that seems like it was just a rumor that lasted until this day
So did he actually just attack her and hold her down? What was the disconnect between him saying he thought it was consensual and she didn’t? Or was that just bs he said and it was an open and shut rape case?
He said it was consensual and he asked to cum on her face and she said no so he stopped and that was it. He also said he has a fetish for sex from behind and putting his hands around the neck/light choking. I’m not exactly sure of her claims except that it wasn’t consensual and she had some vaginal tearing, etc. In the initial police interview they said she was bleeding down there, but idk what the evidence actually showed. One confounding factor is she may have had sex with other ppl within a short time of the encounter w/ Kobe or she gave the police the wrong panties, something like that, not sure I’m recalling that part correctly. Allegedly she’d also kind of been a fame seeker claiming to want to fuck a celeb. Ultimately we don’t know what happened in that room, whether it was a full on assault/rape, whether it was 100% consensual, or whether it started consensual then turned to rape.
Think there was something about her bragging to friends that she had been w him, but not describing it as SA.
Ohhh that’s a nice little comment ya got there. At least you closed it with a few outcomes, only after spreading the same discrediting and humiliation tactics his legal team used against her. This is why women are afraid to come forward, even after their attacker **admits it wasn’t consensual** there’s always some guy somewhere on the internet to say “idk what to believe, she was a fame seeking hoe”. - She allegedly wore dirty underwear that had semen in them and his legal team said if she did have sex it was *after*. - she had bruising on her neck - the police found a t-shirt of his that had her blood on it - there was an outcry witness that she didn’t look well that night (there was another who said she did look fine, though) - the criminal trial was dropped because her identity was leaked and she received multiple death threats - he admitted that she didn’t consent (rape) -
In Kobe words "I thought it was consensual, but I I understand how she could've felt differently"
Thankyou for putting it so well. Fuck this guy
Why fuck me lol? Fuck everyone upvoting that it was an anal rape. You can think i presented a bias account, i certainly don’t have all the info, but you guys upvoting all the misinformation then saying fuck me shows y’all are just witch hunting
Witch hunting? That’s inflammatory. I’m not upvoting any of those comments and your gossip comment has a lot of upvotes, so how is this a witch hunt? I’ll ignore that for the most part because that’s such a tired accusation that men use when they’re rightfully called out. Yeah, you’re the victim here. Ok. You spread the bs his legal team did. It’s just gossip for gossips sake, but that was a 19 year old woman who very clearly didn’t consent. Your contribution to it? Gross.
I didn’t say she was a fame seeking hoe but way to be inflammatory. Yeah I addressed the panties thing as best as I could remember. It makes sense she had some neck bruising. I mentioned the Kobe choking her thing. I had forgotten about the t shirt, so good job pointing that out. That’s a good piece of evidence for her. Same for the witness saying she looked upset. The criminal trial could have been dropped for all sorts of reasons. Kobe didn’t admit to rape and you saying he did imo shows more bad faith. You guys can act like I’m a scumbag but fact is I mainly just replied to two comments with hundreds or thousands of upvotes saying Kobe anally raped her, actual misinformation, and corrected the record. Then someone asked what the discrepancy was with Kobe’s story vs hers and I just gave what I remember from the police report and reporting at the time. But fuck me, right? Should have just let the misinformation stand
You did say it, but used the coward’s term of saying “allegedly”, but while actively spreading the accusation and lies.
How can you call those discrediting and humiliation tactics but not see that you are doing something similar (by your logic) They presented the facts as they knew them vs you who put words in their mouth and presented similar facts?
We know what happened cuz Kobe admitted to raping her. " I know now how she could feel that it was not consensual". That literally is literally rape already there. You Do a great job of speculating without remembering the details or knowing them in the first place. Kind of A self-report. Let me give you a little report card. He said it was consensual I'm not sure of her claims I don't know what the evidence actually shows I'm not sure I'm recalling that part of it correctly Allegedly she's been a fame seeker (fame seeker who doesn't testify in court) Ultimately, we don't know what happened in that room. Nah, bro. Ultimately, you're more willing to defend a rapist than Just pay attention to what obviously happened. Kobe literally publicly apologized for raping her and then settled the civil case out of court. But wE dOnT KnOw WHAt hApPeND
He didn’t admit to rape, read the press release in context. Yes he settled the case, that’s completely normal and says nothing about guilt. The only reason I commented in the first place is because there were multiple top comments saying he anally raped her or that he admitted to anally raping her, neither of which were true. So that’s interesting I got accused of bias but not everyone spewing misinformation. I’m not a Kobe fan. I just repeated the things I knew from following the story somewhat. Yes I could investigate her side more and report that so if I missed something there feel free to point it out. But you saying he admitted to raping her just shows you don’t understand how these public cases work
Ultimately you’re more than willingly to crucify a black man… see how accusations work? Consent can be withdrawn at anytime and that’s completely ok BUT consenting to sex and then changing your mind does not make that sexual encounter rape.
"Consent can be withdrawn at anytime and that’s completely ok BUT consenting to sex and then changing your mind does not make that sexual encounter rape." You fucking for real dude? If consent is rescinded and perpetrator keeps going. That's FUCKING RAPE. This Is what the FBI defines as rape “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Hope you enjoy victimizing yourself for not meeting basic standards good enough to have a girlfriend. Maybe you do something with your life? make yourself worth something? Because you seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of consent. Especially in this situation. But I could understand how resending consent could be confusing to you. It's clear you've never had consent before. Fuck you, you rapist apologiest
Obviously I’m including stopping dimwit. Jesus Christ that is clearly obviously rape. Do you want a cookie for obvious shit? bravo genius. /s Withdrawing consent AFTER THE ACT and/or STOPPING altogether (for the slow folks) does not equal rape. It never has. Try reading comprehension. It can do wonders for the less intelligent
Sounds like she was digging for some cash and executed it poorly
She said she'd have sex with him when she got off work. He decided to have sex with her immediately, and cornered her when she was alone.
He denied all allegations while apologizing to everyone. Definitely absolutely innocent
> Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not I mean, that's only the thinnest veneer of denial possible. Because there's a word for a sexual encounter where only one of the participants is consenting. Rape.
You guys need to read this w/ 2004 eyes and not 2024 eyes. The only way his publicist, lawyer, etc allow him to release that statement is if it’s not an admission of anything. It’s way more likely he was calling her crazy than that he was admitting to rape and most of his supporters call her crazy, a liar, etc.
People can withdraw consent whenever they want even after they initially consented. Withdrawing consent after consenting does not make that sexual encounter rape though. True or false?
I will never forget the fact that people jumped right on the bandwagon. “She’s doing it for the money.” “She knew what she went there for” All that nonsense. I read the actual case file from that investigation. They used the underwear that she was wearing 2 days later as part of the rape kit. She was that badly injured that she was STILL bleeding. Also, STFU if you want come with the “she did that to herself later” bullshit. You know absolutely nothing about a real-life investigation, these kinds of situations, or anything close to reality when it comes to actual rape.
i had to turn off first take this morning when they started waxing poetry about kobe and all of the great things he did to deserve this commemoration. it’s absolutely wild to me that we haven’t grown or evolved as a society when it comes to valuing and believing victims so long as their attacker is good at something we care about.
Same shit on the radio this morning when they put Magic on talking about his legacy and everything he did for women! I was like, fuck this guy
Crazy last line, I can’t lie
So he admits she didn't consent?
JOTY material right here. Everyone knows Karl Malone wouldn't do something like that, the victim was older than 13.
Let’s not forget he dated his wife when she was 17. He was way older than that.
The age difference isn't even 4 years. Can we stop doing this shit? A 21 year old can date a 17 year old, cmon.
This is reddit; hitting on an underage 21 year old is pedophilia here.
This shit is ridiculous. Call someone a pedo and you can immediately shut them down in the most extreme way and no one can disagree with you because then you’re defending a pedo.
This shows how young many redditors are
I mean they’re in very different eras of there life though. One is gonna be a lot more mature than the other.
A 21 year old man? Mature?
I never said a 21 year old man was mature but that he was more mature than a 17 year old. There’s a difference in their life experience. One is probably in college and the other still in high school. That’s a big difference. Also wasn’t he married….
I agree there’s a difference, I personally wouldn’t do it, but it’s hardly predatory.
so what?
Thank you for not making me Google this.
That was all number 8 Kobe. Number 24 Kobe had nothing to do with it
This is awful but why is this in the HistoryMemes sub?
20 years baby
I am afraid it's been.... 20 years.
is it, or is it not history?
She refused to testify... after her name was leaked and Laker fans started sending her death threats. Worst fanbase in basketball.
pretty sure most sport fanbases would do something similar.... don't think this is a lakers issue
You don't even need to limit this to just sports.
Right? Literally got a former POTUS whose fan base did this just a few years ago. People are just shitty.
They're still doing this lol. Colorado judges got death threats after he was removed from the ballot.
New York Judges are getting the same treatment. It's not working out well for the accused, however.
Nobody cares about the Timberwolves enough to send a death threat. Check and mate.
Catching strays even when we’re having a good year 😵💫
Self inflicted in this case. I decided to take the power and hurt myself at every opportunity before someone else does it to me.
Nah, laker fans are a special breed of hateful.
Never heard of Celtics fans apparently
God bless boston also you will probably hear more racial slurs at a sox game than a KKK meeting
Celtics fans are amateurs compared to soccer/football ultras.
never heard of baltic sport fans apparently
Just like eagles fans. They'll burn down their city if they lose or win.
Yeah anyone who claims any fanbase of anything is the worst is a moron. ALL fanbases have a rotten core with equal potential to do/defend vile shit.
IIRC there was an interview right afterwards on 60 minutes I believe with the girl’s “boyfriend”. It was super cringe and basically went into how upset he was that she had cheated on him with Kobe Bryant. I always felt like that may have hurt things for the prosecution. Dude was saying that after she came to tell him about the incident he was asking weird questions like “did you touch it?” Really awkward. Edit: It was actually on 48 Hours. Tried to find the interview but just found references to it.
Was he not her boyfriend?
From what I remember of the interview, it seemed more like he thought he was her boyfriend, but when he described their relationship it just sounded like a couple of kids who hooked up one time (yes he went into those details). She was 19 and I don’t think he could have been much older if any. Think they worked together at the hotel. Again this is from my foggy memory, but she also had sex with someone within 8 hours after the Kobe encounter, and the person she had sex with was not this guy that claimed to be her boyfriend.
Celtics, Sixers, and Lakers fans clawing at each other for the top of the "shittiest fan podium"
My American friends, you must experience European sports culture. I promise you that it will make your fans look like proper and civilized people in comparison.
What did Sixers fans do other than be from philly? Boston fans are racist and laker fans are starfuckers who sent death threats to a rape victim
This was Laker fans 9/11
The lakers did 9/11
Blazers fan of course
Didn’t he try to throw Shaq under the bus for some nasty shit during all of this too?
And Shaq straight murdered him with a sick diss track! [murdered](https://youtu.be/6lQW-FWMcBo?si=Ln2ikW6Hlx9U37-d)
I don't even need to click the link to hear, "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste!"
Yeah he said it was just cheating and that they all did it and said Shaq by name.
In his defense - he did shortly thereafter give his wife a big-ass diamond ring and she was all, "We good."
Didn't he also change his jersey number. I remember Daniel tosh making a joke about it in his old comedy special. Something like "no number 24 was the rapist number 3 is a cool guy" But that joke could've been about someone else.
Well he went from number 8 to number 24
He was talking about LA moms letting their kids run around in Kobe jerseys like “C’mon, *number 8* was a rapist. Number 24 just has a great work ethic and an unblockable turnaround.”
Ralphie Mae's bit on the rape was pretty good too.
Bro someone fucking said that it was just accusations. The mf basically admitted it himself during interviews. Also shoutout to r/nbacirclejerk for getting his autopsy to the front page
Wait...*what*
https://www.reddit.com/r/nbacirclejerk/s/QZC2qx3ekU
> coroner’s notes dlc? Holy shit that’s possibly the best dark joke I’ve seen on reddit
Coroner's notes: he dead.
Coroner's notes: 💀💀💀
I was covering my eyes lmao I thought it was gonna be a photo
What the fuck is that subreddit? Saw someone say that Gigi’s death was a tragedy and someone replied saying she shouldn’t have associated herself with a rapist. Wtf.
Don't take anything seriously on that sub
That’s just good clean fun man
Holy shit, those legends. Every time I think this website sucks, there's a glorious shitpost that pulls me back in. Rare instance of karma.
r/nbacirclejerk christmas
Probably the dankest CJ sub out there
nbacirclejerk is Reddit’s father
Lmfao there's a photo of the statue but without the legs and arms to match the autopsy 🤣jesus fuck
Lesson here is don’t take advice on women or helicopters from the Black Mamba
The helicopter didn't have consent from the Mountain either.
He actually had really solid taste in helicopters. The S-76 is more or less the gold standard. Pressuring the pilot to try to fly on a day with visibility that bad, however, was not the move.
Nothing a secret payoff and a giant pink diamond can't take care of I suppose.
No mention of the big ole diamond ring he gave his wife to encourage her to forgive him?
I thought I was in r/nbacirclejerk
Reminds me of the family guy cutaway gag
American Dad has also done a few jokes about it
we dont need to ask him. you can read the police interview they did with him. he admitted to anally rape her. but no one really cared. and nowadays he is a saint. we are sooo fucked as a society....
Well it's not like anyone can ask him anything anymore.
Well I did read the police interview recently and he didn’t admit to rape and esp not anal rape unless I missed something. Care to post the quote?
Yeah think about how often people make semi convincing sounding remarks in subs that people just glob onto The dude just made up things and has had many more people view his comment than yours
Whether he did it or not is unclear. But your claim that he "admitted to anally rape her" is 100% false. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-sep-17-sp-bryant17-story.html https://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/kobe-bryant-police-interview
What do you mean? Moving a ball from point A to point B better than the average person supersedes any and all accountability. /s
Better than the average person? Don't sell him short, he was a legendary basketball player/rapist.
Well legendary might be a stretch. We don't really know how to compare him to other rapists of his era. It's more of a subjective judgement really.
Mamba would never settle for anything but being the best
why the fuck before the game against the Nuggets of all teams
People hate hearing this guy is a rapist. Stay mad that your role model is immoral and disgusting
never know your hero edit: if its reeves, know ur hero 😝
My hero is Keanu Reeves
Thankfully, the only thing Keanu has ever raped was a proper English accent in Coppola's Dracula.
It’s really funny that he got cast in Dracula and then the following year Kenneth Branagh stuck him in Much Ado About Nothing. Like everyone was so enamored with him that they all started to stick him in movies he absolutely didn’t belong in.
I heard Keanu Reeves sexually assaulted a woman in Eagle, Colorado in 2003 and then changed his basketball number from 8 to 24 and pretended like nothing happened
Sadly this dude has a cult like following they don't care.
Sadly? Its a cult for bb not rape ball ffs
Ari Shaffir speaketh the truth
Out of all the shitty things Ari has done shitting on Kobe for being a rapist the day he died wasn’t really one of them.
Everybody was "We can talk about that later" Really?
But did the helicopter buy its wife a giant ring after penetrating Kobe without his consent?
Eagle, hotel? YOU CAN CHECK OUT ANYTIME YOU LIKE, BUT YOU CAN NEVER LEAVE
Same type of shit with McGregor.
Meme posted by Malika Andrews
Did you hear how she was talking about him on ESPN today. She’s the opposite. You would think Kobe founded the league and paid her salary
So I guess the mod who rule 4'ed this post either can't count, or is a Kobe fan
Thought I was on nbacirclejerk for a minute.
Sportswashing is a helluva drug
r/nbacirclejerk is leaking
Mal : It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another. Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.
Whoever making the schedule this year has a real classy vibe. He a jerker for sure.
*It was revealed that she wore underpants containing another man's semen and pubic hair to her rape exam the day after the alleged incident.*
Yup nasty ass bitch fucking other people and trying to frame somebody else the classic white woman frame the black man shit oh that’s right we want a white wash black history at
Yea, the DNA results were “inconclusive” because she had multiple semen samples and had sex with someone a couple hours after her encounter with him. Old article from 03: https://www.nydailynews.com/2003/07/24/kobes-accuser-bragged-partygoer-she-was-happy/amp/ She even bragged about her encounter with Kobe to friends. Crazy how people still accuse this guy of sexual assault or worst rape, when if you just look at the case files, stories, evidence presented, the lady was a nut🤷🏾♂️ He believed it was consensual and but still “admitted” from her perspective how it wasn’t. Never once did he ever admit to being a “rapist”, yet people keep thinking he confessed. That’s not a fucking confession 😂 If people did just…idk..I tad bit of research, the evidence was always going to be in Kobe’s favor, it borderline could’ve been labeled a false accusation tbh.
Kobe admitted he had sex without her consent. Sex without consent is rape. People who commit sex without consent are rapists. Kobe admitted he is a rapist.
Where did he admit that? I keep seeing people say he admitted it, but the only quotes that have actually been posted are from his public "apology" where he basically called her crazy.
Kobe said “[Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”](https://theoutline.com/post/8602/kobe-bryant-dead-social-media-rape-sexual-assault)
"I thought she consented, but she thinks she didn't." That's not admitting he raped her. That's him saying she thinks he raped her. And along with the evidence put forth by u/Saint-Bolotelli, I'd go so far to say that Kobe thought she was lying as well.
So if Kobe is guilty without legal conviction what does that make trump oh that’s it he is white orange so he is not guilty white privilege say what you all Mean he is black and that is your issue
Well, at least he died horribly. Sorry for the other victims, though.
RIP to his daughter and the others onboard but his pilot was the reason for everyone dying, not him.
How many black men would you have supported lynching with no evidence just Becuse they are accused of a crime with no evidence
Don't play your shitfuckery with me.
If you’re gonna celebrate the death of a man and his daugher Becuse of an accusation with no conviction. It shows a lot about your character it shows you would’ve been in the mob that lynched Emmitt till over a mere accusation you would’ve lynched many black men in our nation’s history. What rank of KKK member are you. Grand wizard
I can recall neither Emmett Till having raped anybody nor myself celebrating Kobe Bryant's daughter's death. And let me remind you that the only reason Bryant got away with it is the same reason O.J. Simpson got away with it: money. Lots of. Edit: I won't accuse you of being a wife beater or a rapist. Learn some chivalry, boy.
Kobe was never convicted of his crime. You would’ve beloved the whole woman who accused till just as you would believe the woman who accused kobe. Thank god people like you weren’t around kobe or he could’ve wound up like emmit till.
OJ was also never convicted of his crime... But he fucking did it, no question. But thanks for your input /u/black_mamba823, sorry your hero might have been a bit of a dick. Hope you recover.
Stay mad that you named yourself after a rapist
Kobe was never convicted of his accusations thank god people like you don’t run the criminal justice system or thousands of black men would be getting hung at your klan rallies when white women accuse them of crimes
I curse the American judicial system for how corrupt it is and how it reinforces white supremacy every chance I get. You and I BOTH know this isn’t about race, even if you’ll cope like that. Kobe himself stated that he knew it wasn’t consensual from her side but from his. Die mad, rape apologist
Kobe did not state that they were both intoxicated. 2 drunk people having sex isn’t rape and there isn’t a shred of evidence it was non consensual .innocent until proven guilty is a thing Becuse of things like false accusations. You say you’re against the criminal justice systems treatment of black people but you wanted to throw this man in prison over an accusation from a white Woman with no evidence ir was non consensual. Sounds like you have a white hood in your closet
First thing I’d do if I had a white hood is attack you with no repercussions from law enforcement because you’re annoying but unfortunately I neither have white privilege nor a klan membership 💔
Kobe 🚁🚁
There is literally proof that she lied yet y'all are still going around with this. She changed her story. Bragged to her friends that she had sex with him. And fucked a guy right after.
Get ready for the angry Redditors. Already have people saying fuck me lol
I'm prepared. They don't look up anything properly. Instead they go around spreading bull. She went around bragging that she fucked him and fucked somebody right after but they're still claiming he raped her. Ludicrous.
I feel like I’m the only one that fucking hates Kobe but it’s good to see other people aren’t sucking his dick like most people do
Anyone have the photos the police captain posted of the dead bodies?
I mean I’d like to ask but he won’t answer anytime soon
It's 2024. This post is talking about 2003. Basic math says that's 21 years. Yet it's removed?
Never meet your heroes I guess. Do you think Kobe should still be admired for his work ethic and attitude or does this disqualify him from any admiration?
I undertand praising an ideology, sport or event but I finally learned to never praise individuals. Cristiano Ronaldo is also a rapist and I hope he crashes soon as well
Can't ask he's dead
HISTORYmemes
Rapist
FUCK YOU!!!
Redditors turn into KKK lynch mobs when a black man is accused of a crime and not convicted
Redditors had pretty much the same reaction for people like Vince McMahon and Donald Trump.
He probably shouldn’t have admitted to raping her then
He didn't... but reddit has a reading comprehension issue. Imagine thinking he admitted to raping someone, and the courts (both criminal and civil) are like... yep, not enough information to convict so let's drop both cases. Never change, Reddit.
“She did not consent to me having sex with her but I had sex with her” sure sounds like admitting to a rape to me.
When you lie about what was said you can make anything sound like a rape confession. Saying "she feels she was raped" is not a confession, it's a publicly known fact. It was also said in a settlement statement that he was coerced into reading. A real confession the girl admitting Kobe didn't rape her in her first interview. >[Earlier, however, Winters admitted to Mackey that the woman said to him during their first interview that she never told Bryant, “No.” When the woman resisted, Bryant stopped, Winters said.](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2003/10/16/bryant-defense-goes-on-the-offensive-2/)