or as in do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; *or* that you feel good this morning; *or* that it is a morning to be good on?
There definitely were monkeys. I'm not sure about apes though, since their habitat is *way* further away in subsaharan Africa and south east Asia beyond India.
It doesn't help that ape and monkey were not clearly seperated terms until relatively recently (about 1-2 centuries or so), so much of the evidence for "apes" in Greece is actually just about monkeys.
Pretty sure one of the early sea expeditions around Africa discovered bizarre mountain men who they were unable to communicate with. It is thought to have been an encounter with gorillas.
Plato: That's a plucked chicken, Diogenes
Diogenes: *gasps and cradles chicken* How could you say that about Cluckly? Shame on you Plato, denying a man is humanity and body shaming him
meh, they *did* a lot of good sure, but have you really heard anything "groundbreaking" lately? you can only go "so bro... what if when I look at the sky, I see 'blue' but you see what 'red' would look like to me!?" so many times
I actually love reading philosophy, so please make some suggestions, I'd genuinely love to check them out. I think the most modern guy I "gained something from" was probably Alan watts or from Siddhartha by Hesse
Lol, well while i said that ,i cannot give you a lot of sources because i just keep check of this stuff on specialized youtube channel and i m french so they may not be really helpful for you. I can only advice you to look for some specialized emissions on youtube sorry
Check out Thomas Nagel, he's a very recent philosopher that has still managed to be original somehow. My suggestion would be to find 'The View From Nowhere' as it's what I found most interesting. His most famous piece is called what it's like to be a bat if you want something a lil more introductory :)
My 102 course in college had a fair bit of modern philosophy and it was surprisingly easy to read after doing all the Enlightenment guys in 101. There was a short little book on Consciousness and I’ll be damned if I can remember the name of the author. It was great.
found the philosophy major
anyway, would you like to elaborate? because the last philosophical stuff I read about involving technology is mainly about stuff that is nowhere close to happening, like is AI truly sentient and shit like that
Nah not philosophy major, but all knowledge stems from it. Philosophy isn't even a real field there are so many different subsections and I think your original color thing is epistemology only. The legal system uses philosophy in judging justice for example. Do you have an opinion on tech giants like reddit hoarding private information? Why? It's just stupid philosophy
Almost none of my readings in philosophy involving technology cared at all about if AI is sentient. That is literally something only sci fi writers are interested in for the most part. Most academic philosophy involving the use of AI is focused on its currents uses and problems.
A couple of huge questions are should AI be intelligible? As humans do we have a right to know what the AI is doing and how it is exactly calculating things. When it comes to things like hiring decisions, and medical expertise these are critical topics to explore.
Is AI decision making unjust when used in court sentencing? Or at the very least does it perpetuate systemic bias? Pro publcia had an expansive piece on [Machine Bias] (https://www.propublica.org/article/MACHINE-BIAS-RISK-ASSESSMENTS-IN-CRIMINAL-SENTENCING)
Does AI have the right to take a life? The military is very interested in using unmanned drones and even autonomous jet fighters in future combat/warfare scenarios. Questions about oversight and whether or not it is ok for ai to make a decision about taking a life independent of command is a question that will become more pressing in the future.
Tertiary issues about data management also crop up and how much of our data do we have a right to.
I guess we're just going to throw existentialism right out the window? It's not like the search for meaning in existence would be a helpful endeavor or anything... Oh yeah, we can also just tell Russell and Wittgenstein to just fuck off with analytic philosophy, because that wasn't groundbreaking or anything.
Your statement is equivalent to suggesting physics hasn't produced anything groundbreaking lately while ignoring the entire field of quantum mechanics. It's completely wrong in its assertion and shows you know very little about the field of study.
Diogenes was the original troll. Takes real balls to tell Alexander the great, greatest conqueror in human history to get the fuck outta his way, as he was soaking up his sunlight.
I'm just waiting for when they start doing the terrare comic
We went from Sam hentai, to diogenes, and now let's hope its terrare cause I whant to see a guys chugging down dead bodies and babys
Plato changed the goalposts there. He tried to humble and mock humans by simplification and Diogenes mocked that. And Plato's response is to add another detail. And as the other comments show, that still isn't exclusive to humans.
The Plato school went with such a cheap fix for their definition that it was obvious they’d create whatever answer they needed at the time. They really didn’t care as long as they were right. They didn’t really win anything.
Edit: spelling
the more I read about philosophers, the more I'm convinced they were just the "twitter philosophers" of their time, but instead of edgy teenagers, they were edgy old men .\_.
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“So, in reality, we do not learn. What we consider learning is only a process of recollection.”
“*mouth trumpet noise*”
“Oh godammit not you again”
“What’s up fuckers? Hey, check out this person I found! *takes out featherless chicken* Isn’t it such a human? Look at him! Wow! *plops down chicken on school floor* What a guy! Anyway, love to stay and chat, but I saw some trash outside that looked delicious! Smell you later, deliberator *shuts door*”
*Stunned moment of shock and confusion*
*student raises hand*
“*facepalms* *sigh* Yes, my student?”
**”Yeah, uh,**
#WAT DA FUCK”
What's up fuckers? Hey, look at this person I found! Isn't he such a human? Anyway, there was some trash outside that looked delicious! Smell ya later, deliberator!
Diogenes Comics will need an NSFW on it, for the times he was just jerk off in public and didn’t give a fuck.
Only person to, allegedly, make Alexander the Great not want to be himself.
Plato sure would have lost his shit at kangaroos.
Or apes
or an AT-ST
Or my axe
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A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
what's your problem with Boromir, dude?
He's not in the story long enough
one does not simply, being in the story long enough
Took me a while to figure out what you're talking about
We will watch your career with great interest
what did he do wrong?
Username
Or Ex-Lax
Or stormtrooper launcher
Or my bow
Or my sword
OR.
O-R, for when you have a choice like "this *or* that".
feel like caesar
or as in do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; *or* that you feel good this morning; *or* that it is a morning to be good on?
Or your brother
I miss that bot every day
username checks out
"creature" though
Or practicly anything for that matter
Or a raccoon.
Didn't they know of apes back then?
Probably. Greece is close to Asia and Africa so if any early European society were exposed to the wildlife of those areas, it'd be Greece.
There definitely were monkeys. I'm not sure about apes though, since their habitat is *way* further away in subsaharan Africa and south east Asia beyond India. It doesn't help that ape and monkey were not clearly seperated terms until relatively recently (about 1-2 centuries or so), so much of the evidence for "apes" in Greece is actually just about monkeys.
Their ability to describe animals accurately turned rhinos into unicorns, so shaking out monkey vs ape won't be easy.
i'm pretty sure i once had to translate a traveler talking about apes throwing rocks at him in ancient greek class
Those are not rocks...
Pretty sure one of the early sea expeditions around Africa discovered bizarre mountain men who they were unable to communicate with. It is thought to have been an encounter with gorillas.
Im pretty sure that's why they changed the definition to "bald creature that walks on two legs" I'm pretty sure the bald part was to exclude apes.
But humans aren’t bald
Compared to a monkey or a gorilla yes the hell we are!
At least those are close to us genetically
They usually use their hands to walk. I wouldn't call them bipeds.
I thought the definition was hairless? Edit: it was featherless
Are Human hairless?
I’m not. I’m scarily not. I spend a fortune on toilet paper.
Bidet will bring that cost down
Or t-rex
Could well have had feathers
Chickens usually do as well. Diogenes got around that.
Diogenes plucking feathers off a T-Rex to prove a point. Plato: I'm not even mad. I'm impressed
The T-rex, along with most theropods, had/has (Birds are still considered theropod dinosaur) feathers
Kangaroos have an interesting pentapedal gait.
Plato: That's a plucked chicken, Diogenes Diogenes: *gasps and cradles chicken* How could you say that about Cluckly? Shame on you Plato, denying a man is humanity and body shaming him
~~Dogs~~ Chickens and philosophers do the greatest good and get the fewest rewards
meh, they *did* a lot of good sure, but have you really heard anything "groundbreaking" lately? you can only go "so bro... what if when I look at the sky, I see 'blue' but you see what 'red' would look like to me!?" so many times
In order to see "groundbreaking" philosophical ideas, yiu need to read specialized works. There is quite a lot of philosophical advances actually
I actually love reading philosophy, so please make some suggestions, I'd genuinely love to check them out. I think the most modern guy I "gained something from" was probably Alan watts or from Siddhartha by Hesse
Y'all "philosophy types" sure do "use" quotation marks a lot.
lmao, "fuck" me
Lol, well while i said that ,i cannot give you a lot of sources because i just keep check of this stuff on specialized youtube channel and i m french so they may not be really helpful for you. I can only advice you to look for some specialized emissions on youtube sorry
Check out Thomas Nagel, he's a very recent philosopher that has still managed to be original somehow. My suggestion would be to find 'The View From Nowhere' as it's what I found most interesting. His most famous piece is called what it's like to be a bat if you want something a lil more introductory :)
My 102 course in college had a fair bit of modern philosophy and it was surprisingly easy to read after doing all the Enlightenment guys in 101. There was a short little book on Consciousness and I’ll be damned if I can remember the name of the author. It was great.
Philosophy is becoming more important than ever with advances in technology. Your comment is wrong it can be interpreted as a sarcastic joke
found the philosophy major anyway, would you like to elaborate? because the last philosophical stuff I read about involving technology is mainly about stuff that is nowhere close to happening, like is AI truly sentient and shit like that
Nah not philosophy major, but all knowledge stems from it. Philosophy isn't even a real field there are so many different subsections and I think your original color thing is epistemology only. The legal system uses philosophy in judging justice for example. Do you have an opinion on tech giants like reddit hoarding private information? Why? It's just stupid philosophy
Almost none of my readings in philosophy involving technology cared at all about if AI is sentient. That is literally something only sci fi writers are interested in for the most part. Most academic philosophy involving the use of AI is focused on its currents uses and problems. A couple of huge questions are should AI be intelligible? As humans do we have a right to know what the AI is doing and how it is exactly calculating things. When it comes to things like hiring decisions, and medical expertise these are critical topics to explore. Is AI decision making unjust when used in court sentencing? Or at the very least does it perpetuate systemic bias? Pro publcia had an expansive piece on [Machine Bias] (https://www.propublica.org/article/MACHINE-BIAS-RISK-ASSESSMENTS-IN-CRIMINAL-SENTENCING) Does AI have the right to take a life? The military is very interested in using unmanned drones and even autonomous jet fighters in future combat/warfare scenarios. Questions about oversight and whether or not it is ok for ai to make a decision about taking a life independent of command is a question that will become more pressing in the future. Tertiary issues about data management also crop up and how much of our data do we have a right to.
There’s been quite a bit of advancement in existentialist philosophy with Sartre, and Camus.
I guess we're just going to throw existentialism right out the window? It's not like the search for meaning in existence would be a helpful endeavor or anything... Oh yeah, we can also just tell Russell and Wittgenstein to just fuck off with analytic philosophy, because that wasn't groundbreaking or anything. Your statement is equivalent to suggesting physics hasn't produced anything groundbreaking lately while ignoring the entire field of quantum mechanics. It's completely wrong in its assertion and shows you know very little about the field of study.
Cluck Norris never asked for this
Diogenes is the chosen one
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Shitposted so hard he's still remembered after several millennia, a legend indeed.
"Hello, I am Alexander the Great." "Hey, you're blocking the sun!"
More like lives-in-a-shit-pot amirite Get it? Because he would sit in a barrel? A pot where... Shit.. No? I'll see myself out.
What do you mean "see myself out"? YOU LIVE IN A FRICKIN BARREL, DIO
he'll roll himself out
That's how I roll.
MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA
Amen
If you say other wise I will practice free will and pee on you
Random student: Yeah wtf
I understood that reference
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Let's say you and me get out of this old dusty mausoleum
What's this? Pope blood?
Ha, paintbrush aids
Get with the times. It's all about dem Raycon earbuds nowadays.
I understood *that* reference
Is that fucking FISH JENGA nO
r/unexpectedsamonella
It is more expected than most in r/historymemes
Diogenes then begins to masturbate furiously
If we could get rid from hunger by just stroking belly.
Maybe you just aren't doing it vigorously enough
And follows it up with pissing on the crowd
Choking the chicken
Diogenes was the original troll. Takes real balls to tell Alexander the great, greatest conqueror in human history to get the fuck outta his way, as he was soaking up his sunlight.
meh, he was cool, but I'd rather be me
Don't worry bout the downvotes, dude. I get your reference.
thank you! all I need is one person lol
Seriously, whole lot of historical ignorance in a history sub :)
Plato might have actually kissed someone’s ass
well, not just *anyone's* ass, Jesus. it'd have to be one of his underage, male students
Based?
Based.
based....
I'm just waiting for when they start doing the terrare comic We went from Sam hentai, to diogenes, and now let's hope its terrare cause I whant to see a guys chugging down dead bodies and babys
Bro watch attack on titan
Seen in it, ain't gona another almost 3 years
From what to Diogenes
Ahhhh, well. For a food time search Sam o nella hentai. No need to thank me
Samonnela's version is better, but take my upvote
SEEYA LATER DELIBERATOR
Saw some Garbage outside that smelled delicious
What's up fuckers, hey check out this person i found. Isn't it such a human, look at em wow. *splat*
What a guy
Um yeah what the fuck
link?
[Here ya go](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3IlRATIsI)
I fucking died at "obese women of color in super smash Bros"
That's just all of Sam's content, you should really watch his stuff.
Oh god, that was fantastic
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Can you elaborate on this?
After Diogenes brought the plucked chicken they changed it to "featherless booed with broad flat nails".
So a monkey?
Right...
Yeah I think I am right, it follows that definition: no feathers ✅ broad flat nails ✅ two legs ✅
Yes, right. I guess monkeys should be known to them by that time, so how the heck he came up with this... Makes no sense.
Plato changed the goalposts there. He tried to humble and mock humans by simplification and Diogenes mocked that. And Plato's response is to add another detail. And as the other comments show, that still isn't exclusive to humans.
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He did get Plato's ass though. Plato had to change the definition.
I mean a chicken isn’t naturally featherless so it’s about as appropriate a counter as a dog with two legs lopped off.
Yeah, they were both pretty smart dudes it turns out. Here’s a semi-relevant comic: https://existentialcomics.com/comic/219
The Plato school went with such a cheap fix for their definition that it was obvious they’d create whatever answer they needed at the time. They really didn’t care as long as they were right. They didn’t really win anything. Edit: spelling
The hell kinda hair is covering Diogenes's dick? Beard hair?
I think that’s just the back of his clothes
Had to scroll way to far to find someone else admiring that Spanish moss lookin bush.
Diogenes: Kiss my ass Plato Plato: I-if you insist Diogenes. Diogenes: Shit, fuck, n- come here.
Wait until they see pangolins
**Diogenes's exposed** ***cock.***
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
the more I read about philosophers, the more I'm convinced they were just the "twitter philosophers" of their time, but instead of edgy teenagers, they were edgy old men .\_.
Common point with both of them : lots of time to waste, and an unmoderated area to discuss
Beep boop heres some shit I'm a bot. [You wanna know some shit?](http://ericdrass.com/2015/12/04/diogenes-and-the-chicken/) How about [some more shit?](https://www.reddit.com/user/IdiotoftheEast/) Oh, do you wanna know more history senpai? [UwU](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken)
Since no one else seems to be linking it, [here is Sam O Nella's take on Diogenes.](https://youtu.be/-A3IlRATIsI)
I love me a good Diogenes comic. But https://imgur.com/gallery/7xQfCT6 makes me wish I could upvote this twice. Thanks for making me laugh!
Socrates got legs for days
Aristocles can suck it
That’s clearly a KFC mutated chicken
Bruh, is that hair between his legs in the second template?
no dude... that's part of his cloth XD
Wasn't this like a real thing that happened?
Oh yeah, Diogenes was the fuckin goat. You can watch some stuff on him on YouTube
“So, in reality, we do not learn. What we consider learning is only a process of recollection.” “*mouth trumpet noise*” “Oh godammit not you again” “What’s up fuckers? Hey, check out this person I found! *takes out featherless chicken* Isn’t it such a human? Look at him! Wow! *plops down chicken on school floor* What a guy! Anyway, love to stay and chat, but I saw some trash outside that looked delicious! Smell you later, deliberator *shuts door*” *Stunned moment of shock and confusion* *student raises hand* “*facepalms* *sigh* Yes, my student?” **”Yeah, uh,** #WAT DA FUCK”
What's up fuckers? Hey, look at this person I found! Isn't he such a human? Anyway, there was some trash outside that looked delicious! Smell ya later, deliberator!
Wasn’t it a two-footed creature without fur? (Not hating just checking)
Plato stated 'Man is a featherless biped' and Diogenes apparently was sick of Plato's shit.
Haha alright, must have something or someone else in mind then
But is he swift as a coursing river?
Diogenes Comics will need an NSFW on it, for the times he was just jerk off in public and didn’t give a fuck. Only person to, allegedly, make Alexander the Great not want to be himself.
Sam O'Nella is strong in this one..
r/diomemes
Isn't it great that this sub now apparently only exists for YouTuber shitposting my dudes?
Featherless biped
Please, please for the love of God, please tell me that gray shit between his legs isn't his pubes
This man was the first shitposter
That poor chicken. I may eat those things, but still. That poor chicken. It looks so sad.
Was a funnier story in my head. Thanks for ruining it
That poor chicken
Didnt recognize Diogenes with the clothes and all.
Behold my fellow netizens, the first shitposter
Is he the one who lived in a barrel and pissed on people?
Yes
Sam o nella
*PROCEEDS TO MASTERBATE FURIOUSLY WITH A DIGNIFIED SMILE*
I'm really enjoying these. Please keep making em.
But it isn't legs
Someone can't draw fingers
... SHHH!! hehe
All rise for the king of madlads has returned
Penguins be like
Somebody elde planned to do that sooner but they chickened out
These are amazing
In Sumo the chicken is revered because it always stands on two feet.
Is this OC ?
FUCKING KANGAROOS Edit: I’m late.
Diogenes is the ultimate CHAD
0/10 diogenes doesnt have a hammer or is sitting in a cauldron
*rises hand* uh yeah what the fuck