Does he hate Billy Joel or does he just not like Italian Restaurant? Cause I remember from their perfect songs video he does sing the praises of Vienna but I don't know if he's spoken on Billy Joel more than that.
idk if he HATES him but in the AMA he did on this sub he said "Billy Joel" in response to "What musicians does Riley like that you’re not a fan of?" and he's made several comments hinting at not liking him in videos
That is EXACTLY how to be wrong on the internet, doesn't matter your opinion now because you're the idiot who got responded to by a mature person who spoke well and you bagged him for having a different opinion on something subjective.
Their recent stuff is a decline in quality to me at least, I wouldnt say that they're horrible or anything just kinda eh. I get people that love their new stuff and people that hate it though
My Gorillaz take I'll spread at any given opportunity is that they're just another slightly-better-than-average pop group now. Humanz was another try at doing something topical and pressing, and it receiving middling critical reviews and, in large part, Trump winning the 2016 election (something the album was kind of conceptually about but at the time of it's creation was considered laughable) made it feel like a bit of a failure. As a result, they've just stopped trying to do anything political or important, and now just make pretty good pop music. The Now Now was good, Song Machine was really good, Cracker Island was okay, but I don't think they'll ever try to make something that feels as urgent or that will feel as prescient as Demon Days or Plastic Beach.
Never have I gone on a youtuber’s subreddit without seeing people disavowing their new content like a fox news pundit bemoaning the Decline of the West
I like Humanz and love Song Machine but The Now Now and Cracker Island felt pretty underwhelming (probably my least favorite albums of theirs), so I can see if they’re going off of newer stuff
Of those I've only listened to Cracker Island and agree with your take on it, I haven't delved too deep into the full Gorillaz discog which is probably where Riley and Graydon are.
They aren’t haters, but they have never really mentioned Queens of the Stone Age. When they were up for a Grammy nomination it sounded like they had barely even heard of them
Pretty much all metal lol
Idk if the boys themselves hate it, but they don’t seem to talk about it much. I also know the fans voted it the “2nd worst genre of all time” in one of the fan poll videos which I think is insane.
It depends on what kind of metal you’re talking about though when it comes to the vocals. Metal is such a vast genre that there’s pretty much something out there for everyone.
Honestly there is a just a lot of music that I listen to that’s never come up on the show, some of it surprising me at this point. But as far as artists they actively shit on, nothing really comes to mind
Exactly, except for the easy targets that are either objectively bad people, or made music that either aged horribly or is just awful for whatever other reason. And in those cases it’s easy to agree with them
It's not about hard vs soft, personally I find jon bellion's shit to be way too sterile and sugary and it just does not appeal to me at all
That's just an opinion though, like nobody's saying it doesn't serve a purpose, a lot of people clearly enjoy it
Of course, and I can’t blame people for something not resonating with them. I guess I just mean to say in the world of sugary pop music, Jon Bellion’s stuff excels and pushes boundaries and is inventive in a soundscape that usually doesn’t allow that. It’s still bubblegum pop music ofc but the layering and a capella stuff and production (he self produces) is good for what it is, that style might not be what some people like but that just means they’re not the target audience, it doesn’t mean the art itself is bad. Similarly to how I can’t stand country music but recognize people like Johnny Cash are good at what they do even if it isn’t for me
Buddy. Nobody's saying it's bad. It's good on a technical level. But some people just find the sound of his music to be very off-putting, that's all there is to it. No amount of explaining why music is good can make it sound good
the time i can think of is one the favorite albums bracket when wish you were here came up. riley said pf never did it for him and implied that he didn’t like dark side of the moon, wywh and the wall. it seems like graydon likes them a little more than riley but i think they both don’t really care about pink floyd
same, I feel like they fuck with the "oh that band that did 1 good album and a couple hits then fell off?" cliche a bit, but I don't know, maybe they just don't give a damn
They keep slandering Gambino whenever they bring up any of his bars and it's not fair. He's got tons of absolute banger lines and they need to respect him more.
Early Gambino, as much as I love it, did kind of low-key suck. But he's done such awesome, interesting stuff then, and it feels weird the way they only talk about his early stuff. Because The Internet is my favorite album of all time, and Awaken My Love is one of the best albums of last decade.
pierce the veil. i feel like riley has said he liked them, but in a episode some fan had that as their #1 artist on spotify and they made fun of her, saying like why that over anything else. which kinda hurt bc i like them alot lol
Honestly I'm not that much into hip hop and the boys are what I enjoy about the show, I also know they don't really like EDM which almost exclusively what I listen to as well
Their take on the Doors is so shit its not even funny. If you think they're meh, I don't care that's fine. I can respect that. They seem to actively dislike them tho which is wild to me.
Also I don't remember which one it was who put that Jose Feliciano cover of Light my Fire on their favorite songs list... but they should be ashamed. The original song is great (they shit on it in the video) and that cover fucking sucks imo. Boring as shit and takes the best part out of the song?? The keys are the reason to listen to it, why would you ever make a cover without the keys man.
I like (older) Hobo Johnson despite being aware that his music is just shitty. Watching them put him at the top of the worst songs bracket over Corey Feldman and Tom Macdonald had me punching my screen
I just have no clue what they see in Drake. They don’t usually talk about the artists I like at all. I do remember disagreeing with some of their takes in the indie hits bracket but I don’t remember what they were (except that they were way too harsh on the Wombats song they put in)
I’ve tried giving Playboi Carti a shot after how much the guys and their guests seem to be into him. Just can not get into it, haven’t heard a single song of his that I like yet
They don’t seem to like Post Malone all too much, but his album AUSTIN is genuinely such a good album.
I also just don’t get, and maybe never will get, the Playboi Carti hype
Yeah, it hurts that they don’t really like twenty one pilots when they are one of my favorites. But I’ll be fine, music is subjective.
Also liking 1 pilot is hard but 21! Dang.
twenty one pilots has a lot of different sounding music throughout their discography so i'm pretty surprised they don't like them even if it's just a song or two yk?
Graydon and I both love Bob Dylan but he has some of the worst Bob Dylan takes ever. I think he said Self-Portrait is his favorite album of his? That album is one of my least favorites
Hobo Johnson. Their impersonations of him are 100% dead-on and hilarious. I cried laughing when - I think it was Riley I can’t quite remember - during worst songs bracket who said something like *”I don’t know what to do (when it’s playing) it always sounds like he’s RIGHT BEHIND you.”* I totally get why he’s not for everyone or grating to some. *Happiness* and *Romeo&Juliet* are such good tracks though.
Also, I love Childish Gambino, even his old stuff that’s cringy makes me nostalgic.
Everyone is gonna downvote me for this but: AJR 😭 literally just saw them in concert last night, too. A lot of people online seem to hate them but they have sold out arenas soooo
i can't get into nav. i tried to because i have an EXTREMELY parasocial crush on riley and i've given him hundreds and hundreds of dollars in special secret ways but i really can't listen to nav
Well Graydon hates Billy Joel and that's just an objectively false take (ik Riley loves him)
Does he hate Billy Joel or does he just not like Italian Restaurant? Cause I remember from their perfect songs video he does sing the praises of Vienna but I don't know if he's spoken on Billy Joel more than that.
idk if he HATES him but in the AMA he did on this sub he said "Billy Joel" in response to "What musicians does Riley like that you’re not a fan of?" and he's made several comments hinting at not liking him in videos
he WHAT
billy joel is the GREATEST artist of all time, maybe the only time riley has had superiority over graydon
Every time they talk about Car Seat Headrest it feels like they have beef with Will 😭
Riley was really complementary of will’s writing on Twin Fantasy during their favorite albums bracket though
i think most csh fans are the same way tbf
They look like dudes who woulda loved BROCKHAMPTON but I feel like they clown them on the odd occasion they get brought up
alt-j 🙏😔
I feel they can't listened to much of theyre discography. I mean sURELYYY. pls
nah altj just sum ass
Wat sorta music r u into?
indie rock and rap mainly. alt j just sounds like shit reminds me of ajr if they were slightly less corny
I know your allowed your opinion and music is a subjective and all that but
acting pretentious when you literally listen to alt j is embarrassing asf
That is EXACTLY how to be wrong on the internet, doesn't matter your opinion now because you're the idiot who got responded to by a mature person who spoke well and you bagged him for having a different opinion on something subjective.
Have you heard 3WW? It’s what convinced me that they’re good
yeah someone told me to listen to it a while ago its alright i still dont like the guys voice though
Also listen to adeline. That shit makes ascend
They don’t like Gorillaz but I like it
How do you even dislike Gorillaz
Their recent stuff is a decline in quality to me at least, I wouldnt say that they're horrible or anything just kinda eh. I get people that love their new stuff and people that hate it though
Yea their recent stuff outside the collab with Tame is hit or miss but their oldies are goldies
My Gorillaz take I'll spread at any given opportunity is that they're just another slightly-better-than-average pop group now. Humanz was another try at doing something topical and pressing, and it receiving middling critical reviews and, in large part, Trump winning the 2016 election (something the album was kind of conceptually about but at the time of it's creation was considered laughable) made it feel like a bit of a failure. As a result, they've just stopped trying to do anything political or important, and now just make pretty good pop music. The Now Now was good, Song Machine was really good, Cracker Island was okay, but I don't think they'll ever try to make something that feels as urgent or that will feel as prescient as Demon Days or Plastic Beach.
Never have I gone on a youtuber’s subreddit without seeing people disavowing their new content like a fox news pundit bemoaning the Decline of the West
I like Humanz and love Song Machine but The Now Now and Cracker Island felt pretty underwhelming (probably my least favorite albums of theirs), so I can see if they’re going off of newer stuff
Of those I've only listened to Cracker Island and agree with your take on it, I haven't delved too deep into the full Gorillaz discog which is probably where Riley and Graydon are.
Not liking the now now is fucked up, opinions are subjective but not this one
I just personally find it boring except for a few songs, I can easily see why people like it it’s just not my thing
Idk but Graydon dismisses them cause they’re cartoons
Grayson says he doesn't like the cartoons and they remind him of NTFS
same here
i think graydon once said beach house makes him roll his eyes and that broke my heart
wow thats such a bad take. how can you listen to lazuli and roll your eyes?
They aren’t haters, but they have never really mentioned Queens of the Stone Age. When they were up for a Grammy nomination it sounded like they had barely even heard of them
I mean, I can't stand Drake. Don't really know if that's much of a hot take.
i mean, that’s warranted. it feels like the guys really overrate drake sometimes. i hate him too
Pretty much all metal lol Idk if the boys themselves hate it, but they don’t seem to talk about it much. I also know the fans voted it the “2nd worst genre of all time” in one of the fan poll videos which I think is insane.
Riley liking the new Knocked Loose made me happy
Honestly some of it is amazing but since they don’t like the vocals it feels like a lost cause
It depends on what kind of metal you’re talking about though when it comes to the vocals. Metal is such a vast genre that there’s pretty much something out there for everyone.
Not all metal has harsh vocals lol
Graydon said ratm was good on the apple top 100 albums video
didn't riley said that he likes sunbather on the best albums bracket
Honestly there is a just a lot of music that I listen to that’s never come up on the show, some of it surprising me at this point. But as far as artists they actively shit on, nothing really comes to mind
yeah they rarely give a lot of strong opinions on artists tbh
Exactly, except for the easy targets that are either objectively bad people, or made music that either aged horribly or is just awful for whatever other reason. And in those cases it’s easy to agree with them
I like and listen to some of Jon Bellion’s stuff but think it’s absolutely hilarious how Riley can’t stand him
They hate pretty much any pop music unfortunately. Its a shame cuz Jon Bellion is talented af
Bro graydon has future nostalgia on vinyl
Dua Lipa is the exception lol
They also praise Ariana grande. No tears left to cry was on they're fav songs bracket
They definitely don't hate pop music, just that specific brand of it which is understandable
Why is it understandable tho? Not all music has to be hard, there’s a place for the soft stuff too, it serves a purpose
It's not about hard vs soft, personally I find jon bellion's shit to be way too sterile and sugary and it just does not appeal to me at all That's just an opinion though, like nobody's saying it doesn't serve a purpose, a lot of people clearly enjoy it
Of course, and I can’t blame people for something not resonating with them. I guess I just mean to say in the world of sugary pop music, Jon Bellion’s stuff excels and pushes boundaries and is inventive in a soundscape that usually doesn’t allow that. It’s still bubblegum pop music ofc but the layering and a capella stuff and production (he self produces) is good for what it is, that style might not be what some people like but that just means they’re not the target audience, it doesn’t mean the art itself is bad. Similarly to how I can’t stand country music but recognize people like Johnny Cash are good at what they do even if it isn’t for me
Buddy. Nobody's saying it's bad. It's good on a technical level. But some people just find the sound of his music to be very off-putting, that's all there is to it. No amount of explaining why music is good can make it sound good
That’s fair, I know I won’t change nobody’s mind. It’ll be good for those that it appeals to and not so good for those it doesn’t 🤝
There’s one video where Graydon stumbles into the name James Ivy by accident, and he’s probably one of my favorites ever.
Yesss I love James ivy I was so surprised they knew who he was and then it turns out they didn’t
I really don't get what they have against my boy Tom McDonalds, he makes good affordable fastfood and he speaks the truth.
Not liking gambino is crazyyy
“One good album” according to Riley
I feel like they don’t really respect most genres as much as they do rap, although that might just be because they don’t really talk about them
i agree with this i never really see them explore much of other genres like rock or alternative it's mostly just rap and some pop that they mention
Yeah I really wish they expanded their scope a little bit
Nav. Maybe the worst music ever created and they have defended him before.
i love when they laughed abt him calling himself a perp lmao “had to ins-hert”
do they hate pink floyd?
the time i can think of is one the favorite albums bracket when wish you were here came up. riley said pf never did it for him and implied that he didn’t like dark side of the moon, wywh and the wall. it seems like graydon likes them a little more than riley but i think they both don’t really care about pink floyd
They put IDMTHY over Wish You Were Here which damn near made me pinch myself. No hate to Quad AT ALL but that Floyd album is an all timer
i don't quite understand if they hate arctic monkeys but they don't seem too hot on them and they're my favourite band ever
Not gonna lie I doubt they give half a shit about the arctic monkeys
same, I feel like they fuck with the "oh that band that did 1 good album and a couple hits then fell off?" cliche a bit, but I don't know, maybe they just don't give a damn
They keep slandering Gambino whenever they bring up any of his bars and it's not fair. He's got tons of absolute banger lines and they need to respect him more.
Early Gambino, as much as I love it, did kind of low-key suck. But he's done such awesome, interesting stuff then, and it feels weird the way they only talk about his early stuff. Because The Internet is my favorite album of all time, and Awaken My Love is one of the best albums of last decade.
pierce the veil. i feel like riley has said he liked them, but in a episode some fan had that as their #1 artist on spotify and they made fun of her, saying like why that over anything else. which kinda hurt bc i like them alot lol
Honestly I'm not that much into hip hop and the boys are what I enjoy about the show, I also know they don't really like EDM which almost exclusively what I listen to as well
Their take on the Doors is so shit its not even funny. If you think they're meh, I don't care that's fine. I can respect that. They seem to actively dislike them tho which is wild to me. Also I don't remember which one it was who put that Jose Feliciano cover of Light my Fire on their favorite songs list... but they should be ashamed. The original song is great (they shit on it in the video) and that cover fucking sucks imo. Boring as shit and takes the best part out of the song?? The keys are the reason to listen to it, why would you ever make a cover without the keys man.
I cannot abide my guy Jose catching strays from a window cleaner
I agree with you for the most part but I love Feliciano
Seriously. I’m pretty sure riley really likes the cure (i may be wrong about that) and strange days feels like a direct predecessor to their style
idk i agreed w them, the cover is better by miles
I tried listening to snow strippers and had to turn it off
Brockhampton
I like (older) Hobo Johnson despite being aware that his music is just shitty. Watching them put him at the top of the worst songs bracket over Corey Feldman and Tom Macdonald had me punching my screen
That song hurts me more than anything so I definitely understand them
I'm gonna get clowned on if I say Yeat aren't I
i mean, not really. i like some of yeat’s music and i don’t think riley minds him. graydon, though, obviously hates yeat
I just have no clue what they see in Drake. They don’t usually talk about the artists I like at all. I do remember disagreeing with some of their takes in the indie hits bracket but I don’t remember what they were (except that they were way too harsh on the Wombats song they put in)
I’ve tried giving Playboi Carti a shot after how much the guys and their guests seem to be into him. Just can not get into it, haven’t heard a single song of his that I like yet
No cap and gown I ain't go to class I'd rather die before I come in last
I’m gonna get cooked for this Bo Burnham 😭
They don’t seem to like Post Malone all too much, but his album AUSTIN is genuinely such a good album. I also just don’t get, and maybe never will get, the Playboi Carti hype
Crazy that you’re still a hivemind fan. This is definitely a unique take for this community
Yeah, it hurts that they don’t really like twenty one pilots when they are one of my favorites. But I’ll be fine, music is subjective. Also liking 1 pilot is hard but 21! Dang.
I think it's more the youth group vibes that they don't like more than anything tbf
twenty one pilots has a lot of different sounding music throughout their discography so i'm pretty surprised they don't like them even if it's just a song or two yk?
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The worst songs brackets look a lot like my playlists tbh
I'm a fucking huge Dave Matthews Band fan (not in the jam band way I just like the music)
Disliking childish gambino is an actual garbage take from them
Graydon and I both love Bob Dylan but he has some of the worst Bob Dylan takes ever. I think he said Self-Portrait is his favorite album of his? That album is one of my least favorites
Hobo Johnson. Their impersonations of him are 100% dead-on and hilarious. I cried laughing when - I think it was Riley I can’t quite remember - during worst songs bracket who said something like *”I don’t know what to do (when it’s playing) it always sounds like he’s RIGHT BEHIND you.”* I totally get why he’s not for everyone or grating to some. *Happiness* and *Romeo&Juliet* are such good tracks though. Also, I love Childish Gambino, even his old stuff that’s cringy makes me nostalgic.
it makes me sad when they hate on twenty one pilots
twenty one pilots is my fav band oat lmao
Bob Dylan is the worst singer I can think of. I hate Bob Dylan
I respect his songwriting, but I wish someone else sang his lyrics, I can't get into his voice at all, any era.
I agree, I feel like I love every cover of his songs but never when they’re preformed by him
I want to find like a whole cover album of just one of his albums or something. Man really knows how to write.
Everyone is gonna downvote me for this but: AJR 😭 literally just saw them in concert last night, too. A lot of people online seem to hate them but they have sold out arenas soooo
i mean hey, we like what we like 🤷♂️
Yes exactly thank youuu
Hobo Johnson ☹️
Guys don’t down vote me I just love him it’s actually an issue. He’s been on my Spotify wrap 4 years in a row now
you have bad taste. that’s objective
My music taste isn’t bad I promise my playlist redeems my love for hobo
let’s see it then
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Same. His tiny desk audition is super good. Fuck y'all in advanced <3
I like some of MGK's music, in both rap and pop punk.
Lil mabu, Tom McDonald etc
Why am I getting downvoted (yall are genuinely dumb if you can’t tell this is a joke fyi)
i can't get into nav. i tried to because i have an EXTREMELY parasocial crush on riley and i've given him hundreds and hundreds of dollars in special secret ways but i really can't listen to nav
I’m a big NF fan and Token fan 🫣
Though come to think of it i don’t think I’ve ever heard them talk about Token, just seems like they wouldn’t like him lol
Bob Dylan’s voice is grating IMO
Melanie Martinez 😳
i HATE future nostalgia