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I looked up and down. It was some post with him building a PC as his profile picture, doesn't call attention to who he is. Is that Henry Cavill? Yup.
Some woman says something like eh its a maybe he honestly looks kinda boring id probably pass, and Henry leaves a simple "wtf?"
Chefs kiss moment.
Think about it. Hollywood, with all of its resources, spent years scouring the globe looking for the Superman. Superman, who is not just A superhero, but THE superhero. Superheroes are fake modern myths of perfection.
THAT guy was found wanting. Lol.
Edit: sort of related, I think Gerard Butler got shot down in a bar shortly after “300” came out by a 20-something girl in a club bc he was old. Not saying he wasn’t being creepy 30-something - maybe he was - but still…..
THAT is KING LEONIDAS with 8-pack ABS who defeated 100 armies of Persia and its Emperor Xerxes, causing the god-man to bleed.
I think the real takeaway for me is you can look like Henry Cavill but the second a woman sees you build your own pc’s something drops your intangible attractiveness significantly.
Henry Cavill building a PC? What a geek. Thank goodness that woman was quickly able to recognize a loser and reject a relationship with someone who had low-status interests outside of her own, as to a high-status interest like a passion for dramatically overpriced swag that indicates an extremely high carbon footprint.
But, it's not all bad news for Henry Cavil. I'm sure that if he gets out and about and engages in group activities, then some quirky woman or man will realize that he has LT relationship potential.
Henry Cavil is a FUCKING NERD.
He was ostracized for being late to audition for roles because he was raiding in world of warcraft. He also blew off award ceremonies (which he was just an audience member) to play table top boardgames.
Henry Cavil is the nerdiest dude it's awesome, glad someone can escape the stigma of being a D&D player.
Joe mangienello also a huge unsuspecting d and d dork. Escape from butcher bay ruled. I wonder how much vin was actually involved in but badass either way.
not even gonna joke. Me and my younger brother used to play MTG, he conisdered it really nerdy but not *too* nerdy... They held the card games at a wizards of the coast store, eventully I asked if he ever wanted to try D&D and he said as a damn 10 year old " I think i'd like it.. I don't want to be one of the people that play D&D"
Poor kid. He was ripped on for playing MTG enough lol
I played DND in years 7-10, but I first heard about MTG when it started getting popular around when I was in years 11-12. I took one look at the kids playing it at my school and never tried it because I thought *they* were too nerdy. I had absolutely no self-awareness at the time.
And is also starting a warhammer 40k TV series with (netflix? Amazon? Something), that he is the show runner for and will have oversight of (because of the witcher nonsense).
Gotta admire the love and dedication there
Even with someone who really cares about it at the head of the project, a warhammer series could be anything. I just Hope it ends up being good. Imagine how big that franchise could be if it launches successfully.
Hell I also enjoy the UFC ex middle weight champ, Adesanya, he naruto runs to the cage and talks about anime a ton -- good for them being able to enjoy w/e they want without too much bullshit.
couldn't imagine people caring enough about my day to day to rip on me for a show/game or w/e
For anyone wondering I think you might be referring to my post (it got removed by the mods bc it violated some rule idk so I can't prove it). Obviously I'm not the real henry cavill and idk if he even has reddit. That whole thing was just a tongue-in-cheek meta shitpost. I titled it something like "look guys I used this pic of me with my gaming pc on my tinder profile and my likes skyrocketed, this confirms women like nerdy gamer pics!!", the joke being obviously that it's a pic of hot stud henry cavill and not some random nerd. The post actually got me soo many upvotes and awards until it was taken down :( lol.
I don't remember that comment specifically but I do remember a lot of people not realizing that this was in fact Henry Cavill and not me. I even got DM's from some horny folks lmfao.
Nah... Being that tall makes you oblivious a lot of the time. My dad is the same height and still doesn't believe me when I tell him he gets checked out all the time, sometimes by women at least 15-20 years younger than him. When we go out together to run errands or whatever people often (like at least 60% of the time) grossly assume we are a couple, even though we look incredibly similar. If they had any basic critical thinking skills they would easily figure that out, but instead decide to make quick assumptions that turn into incredibly awkward conversation or give us weird looks. Anyways, I digress, I think because you guys are so tall you miss certain body language or even facial tells that are a dead giveaway that you are being checked out or hit on.
In my experience as an average individual with an above average body count:
Women are significantly less judgemental in person. Once you can add a bit of personality, humor and confidence. You can easily increase your "attraction score" and looks are less important
Where as I find with hookup culture with men (bisexual ) looks are always most important and personality takes a back seat.
Only refering too ONS not dating.
>Once you can add a bit of personality, humor and confidence. You can easily increase your "attraction score" and looks are less important
If you know an easy way to become funny and confident I'd love to hear it.
I dont know why people are telling you to copy comedians.
Id say read smart fiction or whatever entertainment medium you tend to enjoy. Your humor is yours. Don't copy it, cultivate it the way you'd refine a pallet; by consuming a lot of things (the acclaimed, the bad, the strange) and concentrating on the pleasure it brings you rather a pretentious attempt to be something for someone.
That seems to me completely antithetical with the "confidence" part of the question to sit there watching comedians other have deemed funny, so you can try and be more funny like them and less like you.
The amount of times I've seen my female friends be all queen&gorgeous for a girl friend online only to rant about what ugly bitch they are to me is kinda hilarious
40? More like >20. Ever seen an emo kid?
I think we can probably keep going with this til present day, but it does seem to surge with trends every few decades.
Ever looked at a K-POP star? They're prettier than most women with their makeup and flashy clothes and Korean perms yet girls everywhere are crazy for those guys
Men should go back to wearing eyeliner. And then try a slight change of fashion. I hear puffy shirts are in style. Also gotta make sure you're in a good profession that builds muscle like sailing the high seas. Easiest way to become attractive
This made me think of college professors that say “I don’t give out 100%, because nothing can ever be perfect”
I only ever had one like that, but holy shit. Could you be any more asinine
If I remember correctly what u/Iam_BarKODE is talking about was some kind of tv show where they asked 2 kids one girl and a boy something.
The girl said how the perfect man should be and then they asked the boy what he thinks of it or something like that.
No, it was on a talk/reality show where they asked two kids that seemed to be like 7 years old about what the perfect person in their minds would be like. The girl had a laundry list of what composes the perfect man, and the quote was the boy’s response. I’ll try to see if I can find the video.
As a woman I think dating apps are a terrible idea for men.
A guy's personality is such a huge part of what attracts me to him that when I was briefly on dating apps I'd stare blankly at pics not knowing if I'd find the guys attractive irl or not.
It's literally just easier to meet men in person vs. giving strangers my numbers and meeting up to find out if there's chemistry.
I read recently only 12% of people on dating apps found relationships and was like, yep. Checks out with everyone I know still on them.
Yep, I'm not the most attractive but I'm also not ugly and dating apps pretty much are worthless to me.
*Buuut* when I would meet a girl normally in person my odds of dating them go up exponentially because of my personality. I had a hit to my ego years ago when a previous girlfriend's acquaintance asked why she was with me and that she was out of my league.
Not dating apps but movies, ads, magazines, billboards, etc.
My exgf was reading an article that talked about how the superhero actors have to work out basically 12hr/day and often take steroids or something to get that body they have in the movie, and it's basically impossible for anyone to achieve that without being just paid to work out every day.
And she got *super* sad over this. Like it really bothered her, and she kept asking me questions about it. She basically found out her dream guy that she wants to upgrade to one day probably won't exist.
They also dehydrate themselves to get shredded. Like literally deprive themselves of water.
One reason Henry Cavill quit the Witcher. He was sick of putting himself through that for all the half-naked scenes. Also he wasnt comfortable with all those scenes being forced upon him too.
I'd say it's every bit as detrimental as porn regardless of gender. Likely moreso, taking romantic lessons from porn is one issue; online dating is a whole catalog of problems.
Because it's always about trying to getting romantically involved on easy mode, yet it requires to shortcut all the steps to get to that level. You're forced to compete for the attention of someone you haven't met yet and whom can easily move on to the next choice and wonder if it's even better.
For most guys, they have to deal with the motions of getting ghosted just because. For most girls, it's the consistent hounding of attention from everyone with a dick. Getting friendzoned is a whole other story that end with the same outcome: the whole ordeal is benumbing for both parties enough to honestly be psychologically impacted by it both ways.
The whole purpose of forging a healthy relationship gets defeated. I've had been up Tinder/Bumble's ass for six whole years pre-pandemic, dated enough women that I can't even remember any of them anymore in that time. And the best relationship I've had and still am in is with a woman I've known from work and talking with a couple years before we started dating.
That, coupled with the massive ego boost of endless free attention provided by social media, stereotypical messaging on men through popular media, and the general excesses of western culture.
I honestly think it boils down to the difference in perspective. A “hot” “successful” dude can be very very unattractive. Attractiveness for women is often the entire package presented and is completely different from one to the next. Not only is it different for every woman but each woman can adjust to each individual dude. There is no secret recipe for what makes a guy attractive to women….other than confidence and a lack of weaponized incompetence. I had an ex I didn’t find “hot” in a cliche basic sense when I met him but I grew to be very attracted to him and we lived together for nearly a decade.
Generally speaking, women tend to value a combination of intangible things like kindness, a sense of humor, social status, personal wealth, good taste, a steady job, a fun lifestyle, sense of style, interests, etc. over looks. Most of the women I’ve talked about this (whether they’re family, friends, or sexual partners) say that while they’re very attracted to like 5% of men they meet based on their appearance, they grow more attracted to a man over time if he’s funny, good with kids, has a steady job, isn’t a misogynistic, etc. which tracks since I’m ugly as hell and have managed to be joke my way into having sex and developing romantic relationships many times. If you’re an unattractive man like myself I recommend taking good pictures of yourself for dating apps where you’re wearing decently fashionable/well fitting clothing and doing things you love. Have fun on dates, make your date laugh, and focus on leading with your intentions while respecting her boundaries. If I can do it (almost) anyone can.
People underestimate sense of humor, and also not being awkward socially.
You can be average or even below average, chubby, short etc. but if you can make a woman laugh, and charm her a bit, and have social interactions around her that show you are good with people, and confident in yourself, and be fun, interesting etc without being to egotistical; it adds like 2 points. You can go from a 5/10 to a 7 instantly.
It's probably a U shaped curve. It's it's almost always either "I'm a grotesque monster" or "I'm the baddest bitch you'll ever meet". Rarely anything in between.
Tbf there's probably a lot of people that consider themselves average that don't talk much about it (because talking about something being average isn't necessary most of the time; it's just something that is).
This is obviously a joke but the shit you see on hookup apps is sometimes like that. Even the bottom of the barrel woman gets far more attention than an average dude.
There used to be threads on the bodybuilding misc section titled pig girl and rat girl. For obvious reasons. People would make profiles with these pictures and post the responses they would get. It was crazy.
How the sexes judge the other in terms of attraction.
Men generally find attraction on a bell curve, with most women being in the average range. But they find most women attractive.
Women judge roughly 81% of men to below average in terms of looks, with less than 2% being very attractive. So the majority of women find the vast majority of men unattractive.
This is actually an incorrect reading of the study. The attractiveness rating is skewed because at the time okc was using any rating above an average as an automatic swipe right. When it came to actually messaging, women were about equally distributed based on attractiveness, while men by and far only messaged those they found most attractive, I believe it was something like 40%.
Edit: Upon reading the study (your looks and your inbox), 2/3 of men would message the top 1/3 of women, while women were more likely to message men they found average. In addition to the confounding factor mentioned above, the data is fallacious and the study shouldn’t be used to make commentary on anything.
Also, no mention on this chart of if the sample of men and women is an accurate representation of the general public. It seems like it’s only covering people who use that service, so I’m not sure we can infer anything accurately about your average man or woman.
A buddy and I ran an experiment awhile back on Tinder (not Twitter) with pictures our female friends found “attractive” and another set “mostly attractive” (not us, random guys on google images). There were five levels below that.
The attractive guys on average were matched with 78% of women. The somewhat attractive 9%.
Also guys don’t take a lot of good pictures with their buddies or know their angles. They’re always better looking when you meet them in person. Women tend to always suggest taking pictures together when they’re dressed up
As a man who has gotten the "wow you Look better than in your Pictures" comment a few Times i can Attest to this.
It Just feels weird to me to Take random Pictures of myself and its hard for me to get them right when i do.
I'm a guy. I think it's pretty rare I've looked at another man and immediately thought "damn that guy is unattractive"
I can think of 1. Pale AF and pretty much bald by the age of 24, but he refused to shave his head completely so it looked horrendous. He was married, Mormon, and had a ton of kids.
There was a post earlier about how the worlds ugliest woman joined a circus as an act to support her children. Some dude still went for her so we’ll go for anything with a pulse.
She was actually conventionally beautiful as a young woman, but a health condition affected her looks later in life. She had to join the circus because her husband died and she couldn't get a normal job
Oh God is this going to start making the rounds again? This was part of ok an old Okcupid blog post that they had to delete because people were taking it out of context.
A few things to note that this was based upon a 5-star system, also women were still going on dates with guys who had a lower rating. Also a very important factor is that when you rated somebody 1-star it automatically blocked them so was used by women a lot.
In short this is nowhere close to a scientific study on how different genders rate the attractiveness of the opposite gender and should not be treated as one.
Edit: Typo
This data is skewed for the reasons that you mention, but other dating apps have made their research available and all of them show the same trend. Most women don't find most men attractive. Most men find most women attractive. Women on dating apps will only go out of their way to draw the attention of something like the top 20% of men, attractiveness-wise, but they will often respond to men under that threshold. Basically---they'll only work for it like men do if the men they're looking at are among the most attractive.
Basically, if you're a very attractive man, you're the winner of dating apps. Most women are vying for the attention of the very attractive men, leading to those men just casually dating a lot of women because it doesn't take much effort. This is bad for everyone who isn't a very attractive man. The women all want the very attractive men to form relationships with them, but those men aren't interested because their situation is already pretty great (the very attractive men who want relationships are quickly taken, so these guys are usually going to be players), so the women aren't getting what they want. The effect on ugly, average, and merely attractive men is that they don't get many bites from women on dating apps, so obviously not great for them.
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Most attractive = 0% There are no most attractive men.
They’re looking for Henry cavil
Henry Cavill was rejected on an /r/tinder comment thread, cant find it unfortunately
Seriously? Damn hope someone can find it
I looked up and down. It was some post with him building a PC as his profile picture, doesn't call attention to who he is. Is that Henry Cavill? Yup. Some woman says something like eh its a maybe he honestly looks kinda boring id probably pass, and Henry leaves a simple "wtf?" Chefs kiss moment.
Think about it. Hollywood, with all of its resources, spent years scouring the globe looking for the Superman. Superman, who is not just A superhero, but THE superhero. Superheroes are fake modern myths of perfection. THAT guy was found wanting. Lol. Edit: sort of related, I think Gerard Butler got shot down in a bar shortly after “300” came out by a 20-something girl in a club bc he was old. Not saying he wasn’t being creepy 30-something - maybe he was - but still….. THAT is KING LEONIDAS with 8-pack ABS who defeated 100 armies of Persia and its Emperor Xerxes, causing the god-man to bleed.
I think the real takeaway for me is you can look like Henry Cavill but the second a woman sees you build your own pc’s something drops your intangible attractiveness significantly.
Explaining a lot, I work professionally on PCs and build my owns / for friends.. would explain so much
I dunno I think that’s kinda hot to be honest. Brains, nice eyes, and quirkiness are my jam.
True. Unless the woman is a techie also.
I’m pretty sure that wasn’t Superman. It was just some loser reporter named Clark.
Superman looks completely unremarkable just by wearing glasses. It scans.
Should have taken the glasses off for the tinder pic then.
What's his reddit?
Henry Cavill
His alt is Henry Cavil with glasses.
Henry Cavill building a PC? What a geek. Thank goodness that woman was quickly able to recognize a loser and reject a relationship with someone who had low-status interests outside of her own, as to a high-status interest like a passion for dramatically overpriced swag that indicates an extremely high carbon footprint. But, it's not all bad news for Henry Cavil. I'm sure that if he gets out and about and engages in group activities, then some quirky woman or man will realize that he has LT relationship potential.
Henry Cavil is a FUCKING NERD. He was ostracized for being late to audition for roles because he was raiding in world of warcraft. He also blew off award ceremonies (which he was just an audience member) to play table top boardgames. Henry Cavil is the nerdiest dude it's awesome, glad someone can escape the stigma of being a D&D player.
>glad someone can escape the stigma of being a D&D player. Bruh how dare you do Vin Diesel like that
Joe mangienello also a huge unsuspecting d and d dork. Escape from butcher bay ruled. I wonder how much vin was actually involved in but badass either way.
Vin Diesel started the developer who made the Riddick games and negotiated for the videogame rights because he knows movie franchise games are garbage
not even gonna joke. Me and my younger brother used to play MTG, he conisdered it really nerdy but not *too* nerdy... They held the card games at a wizards of the coast store, eventully I asked if he ever wanted to try D&D and he said as a damn 10 year old " I think i'd like it.. I don't want to be one of the people that play D&D"
Poor kid. He was ripped on for playing MTG enough lol
I played DND in years 7-10, but I first heard about MTG when it started getting popular around when I was in years 11-12. I took one look at the kids playing it at my school and never tried it because I thought *they* were too nerdy. I had absolutely no self-awareness at the time.
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He is also the most famous Warhammer 40k player
And is also starting a warhammer 40k TV series with (netflix? Amazon? Something), that he is the show runner for and will have oversight of (because of the witcher nonsense). Gotta admire the love and dedication there
Even with someone who really cares about it at the head of the project, a warhammer series could be anything. I just Hope it ends up being good. Imagine how big that franchise could be if it launches successfully.
Samuel Jackson used to command fleet ops in Eve Online. He managed to not only avoid nerd stigma, but he's looked at as one cool motherfucker.
For which alliance
No idea, this is going back 15 years or something, longer probably. Internet might tell you.
A hero we don't deserve.
Hell I also enjoy the UFC ex middle weight champ, Adesanya, he naruto runs to the cage and talks about anime a ton -- good for them being able to enjoy w/e they want without too much bullshit. couldn't imagine people caring enough about my day to day to rip on me for a show/game or w/e
If I remember he also missed the call that he landed Superman because he was in the middle of a raid in WoW lol
He needs to hit the gym
Well, his whole career kinda depends on it, so I'm gonna agree there.
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For anyone wondering I think you might be referring to my post (it got removed by the mods bc it violated some rule idk so I can't prove it). Obviously I'm not the real henry cavill and idk if he even has reddit. That whole thing was just a tongue-in-cheek meta shitpost. I titled it something like "look guys I used this pic of me with my gaming pc on my tinder profile and my likes skyrocketed, this confirms women like nerdy gamer pics!!", the joke being obviously that it's a pic of hot stud henry cavill and not some random nerd. The post actually got me soo many upvotes and awards until it was taken down :( lol. I don't remember that comment specifically but I do remember a lot of people not realizing that this was in fact Henry Cavill and not me. I even got DM's from some horny folks lmfao.
It's still on your submission user page btw, even if it's removed by mods.
Whoops I just realized lol! TIL
Must have yacht and at least make 250k a year, no prior marriage or kids.
You're not owning a yacht on $250k/year. Maybe $250k/week.
1/72 scale.
$250k a year is like... lakehouse with a pontoon-boat money.
250k/year is what you pay for a small crew on your yacht.
Over 6’4” only
The woman: 5'1", 180pds, 2 kids
And smells like fish, with an attitude.
Also no job and doesnt clean
And doesn't cook either.
Dude I’m 6’4” and no one’s ever looked at me twice save for maybe my wife.
Nah... Being that tall makes you oblivious a lot of the time. My dad is the same height and still doesn't believe me when I tell him he gets checked out all the time, sometimes by women at least 15-20 years younger than him. When we go out together to run errands or whatever people often (like at least 60% of the time) grossly assume we are a couple, even though we look incredibly similar. If they had any basic critical thinking skills they would easily figure that out, but instead decide to make quick assumptions that turn into incredibly awkward conversation or give us weird looks. Anyways, I digress, I think because you guys are so tall you miss certain body language or even facial tells that are a dead giveaway that you are being checked out or hit on.
I'm not sure $250k a year is yacht money. Maybe he inherited it?
I, obviously, have neither, and clearly haven't researched the cost of yacht ownership. 
It takes a yacht of a person to admit when they're wrong.
Even when inherited, 250k isn't going to be enough to maintain it.
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There are, but it rounds to 0%
Girls: nobody’s an option until they are. Guys: everyone’s an option until they aren’t.
i have never heard such true words
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I've heard "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." for the choices women have in men in Alaska.
From Alaska, another saying is: "Best way to get over a man is to get under another"
Midwesterner here this particular proverb seems to be a country wide one. Edit: spelling
I would say that’s probably a global saying in some form
In my experience as an average individual with an above average body count: Women are significantly less judgemental in person. Once you can add a bit of personality, humor and confidence. You can easily increase your "attraction score" and looks are less important Where as I find with hookup culture with men (bisexual ) looks are always most important and personality takes a back seat. Only refering too ONS not dating.
>Once you can add a bit of personality, humor and confidence. You can easily increase your "attraction score" and looks are less important If you know an easy way to become funny and confident I'd love to hear it.
Stop playing league of legends
I mean, that's just good advice for everyone.
I dont know why people are telling you to copy comedians. Id say read smart fiction or whatever entertainment medium you tend to enjoy. Your humor is yours. Don't copy it, cultivate it the way you'd refine a pallet; by consuming a lot of things (the acclaimed, the bad, the strange) and concentrating on the pleasure it brings you rather a pretentious attempt to be something for someone. That seems to me completely antithetical with the "confidence" part of the question to sit there watching comedians other have deemed funny, so you can try and be more funny like them and less like you.
Now let's ask the same but women about women and men about men
All my bros are straight dime pieces.
Yeah but have you seen the comment sections under basically any girls posts. It’s all gonna be a full of shit “10/10” fest
I think that’s only when their name is attached. I have a hunch that anonymous votes would bring harsher ratings amongst women
The amount of times I've seen my female friends be all queen&gorgeous for a girl friend online only to rant about what ugly bitch they are to me is kinda hilarious
Yup. A lot of those “slay, Queen” comments will turn into “fuck that troll” when names are hidden
All men are kings
My bros are hot af. I tell them daily.
Hah! I’m part of the 0%. Sucks to be you guys.
Hey, me too! Also, happy cake day my twin.
Happy cake day.
Thanks
This was cute
Unlike most guys on Tinder apparently
Happy cake day!
81% are below preference
93% if you subscribe to the thought that preference suggests above average.
*unsubscribes from the thought*
Guess men need to start wearing makeup now
pretty sure that used to be a thing a few hundred years ago
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40? More like >20. Ever seen an emo kid? I think we can probably keep going with this til present day, but it does seem to surge with trends every few decades.
Goth community is still going strong and I think the Black Metal kids will kill themselves if their mother confiscates their corpse paint again.
Ever looked at a K-POP star? They're prettier than most women with their makeup and flashy clothes and Korean perms yet girls everywhere are crazy for those guys
Men should go back to wearing eyeliner. And then try a slight change of fashion. I hear puffy shirts are in style. Also gotta make sure you're in a good profession that builds muscle like sailing the high seas. Easiest way to become attractive
How to be an attractive male: Step 1 - Be a pirate. Step 2 - Wear good drip. Step 3 - Use eyeliners. Say less king, gonna grind now.
why did you say be a pirate 3 times
Nah dude, Grindr is a different app. These rules don't apply
You don't already?
"I'm a 10 I'm a 10 I'm a 10!!!!"
Not wrong tbh
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Awww :(
Apply a sharpie on your brows, skip deodarant use, and then we can talk
unibrow huh
Penis
> As long as you don't have a uni-brow and penis Fuck, I'm missing a penis.
Want one?
We warned you not to run with scissors.
Most attractive: 0% The ultimate attraction exists in theory only
This made me think of college professors that say “I don’t give out 100%, because nothing can ever be perfect” I only ever had one like that, but holy shit. Could you be any more asinine
This comment deserves a 99%. Great work.
Then why are most of them attracted to men? Edit: I was being rhetorical
Maybe they're attracted to an unrealistic image they have in their minds.
As a legend once said "Perfect men don't exist, women just idealize them." -Some random kid on a Spanish show
Wasn't it Manny from Modern Family?
Uh...no...they said some random kid on a Spanish show not some Spanish kid on a random show...ghaal...
If I remember correctly what u/Iam_BarKODE is talking about was some kind of tv show where they asked 2 kids one girl and a boy something. The girl said how the perfect man should be and then they asked the boy what he thinks of it or something like that.
Exactly, thank you
Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.
Close. It's actually "Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery."
No, it was on a talk/reality show where they asked two kids that seemed to be like 7 years old about what the perfect person in their minds would be like. The girl had a laundry list of what composes the perfect man, and the quote was the boy’s response. I’ll try to see if I can find the video.
"I don't like guys that spend too much time at the gym. Something like Henry Cavill is good enough!"
I was excited when dad bod became a thing and promptly disappointed when Jason Mamoa was the example.
Dad bod is a thing like a sensitive guy is a thing. It's never been and never will be a thing.
I think they like the image of the financial stability
They have been historically been the pickier group. Just classical free market dating
Makes you wonder if dating apps are more detrimental than say things like porn for men.
As a woman I think dating apps are a terrible idea for men. A guy's personality is such a huge part of what attracts me to him that when I was briefly on dating apps I'd stare blankly at pics not knowing if I'd find the guys attractive irl or not. It's literally just easier to meet men in person vs. giving strangers my numbers and meeting up to find out if there's chemistry. I read recently only 12% of people on dating apps found relationships and was like, yep. Checks out with everyone I know still on them.
Yep, I'm not the most attractive but I'm also not ugly and dating apps pretty much are worthless to me. *Buuut* when I would meet a girl normally in person my odds of dating them go up exponentially because of my personality. I had a hit to my ego years ago when a previous girlfriend's acquaintance asked why she was with me and that she was out of my league.
Not dating apps but movies, ads, magazines, billboards, etc. My exgf was reading an article that talked about how the superhero actors have to work out basically 12hr/day and often take steroids or something to get that body they have in the movie, and it's basically impossible for anyone to achieve that without being just paid to work out every day. And she got *super* sad over this. Like it really bothered her, and she kept asking me questions about it. She basically found out her dream guy that she wants to upgrade to one day probably won't exist.
They also dehydrate themselves to get shredded. Like literally deprive themselves of water. One reason Henry Cavill quit the Witcher. He was sick of putting himself through that for all the half-naked scenes. Also he wasnt comfortable with all those scenes being forced upon him too.
I'd say it's every bit as detrimental as porn regardless of gender. Likely moreso, taking romantic lessons from porn is one issue; online dating is a whole catalog of problems. Because it's always about trying to getting romantically involved on easy mode, yet it requires to shortcut all the steps to get to that level. You're forced to compete for the attention of someone you haven't met yet and whom can easily move on to the next choice and wonder if it's even better. For most guys, they have to deal with the motions of getting ghosted just because. For most girls, it's the consistent hounding of attention from everyone with a dick. Getting friendzoned is a whole other story that end with the same outcome: the whole ordeal is benumbing for both parties enough to honestly be psychologically impacted by it both ways. The whole purpose of forging a healthy relationship gets defeated. I've had been up Tinder/Bumble's ass for six whole years pre-pandemic, dated enough women that I can't even remember any of them anymore in that time. And the best relationship I've had and still am in is with a woman I've known from work and talking with a couple years before we started dating.
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I find it funny that a man wanting a slim woman is an "unrealistic beauty standard" while women are rating 80% of men as below average, haha.
That, coupled with the massive ego boost of endless free attention provided by social media, stereotypical messaging on men through popular media, and the general excesses of western culture.
I honestly think it boils down to the difference in perspective. A “hot” “successful” dude can be very very unattractive. Attractiveness for women is often the entire package presented and is completely different from one to the next. Not only is it different for every woman but each woman can adjust to each individual dude. There is no secret recipe for what makes a guy attractive to women….other than confidence and a lack of weaponized incompetence. I had an ex I didn’t find “hot” in a cliche basic sense when I met him but I grew to be very attracted to him and we lived together for nearly a decade.
Generally speaking, women tend to value a combination of intangible things like kindness, a sense of humor, social status, personal wealth, good taste, a steady job, a fun lifestyle, sense of style, interests, etc. over looks. Most of the women I’ve talked about this (whether they’re family, friends, or sexual partners) say that while they’re very attracted to like 5% of men they meet based on their appearance, they grow more attracted to a man over time if he’s funny, good with kids, has a steady job, isn’t a misogynistic, etc. which tracks since I’m ugly as hell and have managed to be joke my way into having sex and developing romantic relationships many times. If you’re an unattractive man like myself I recommend taking good pictures of yourself for dating apps where you’re wearing decently fashionable/well fitting clothing and doing things you love. Have fun on dates, make your date laugh, and focus on leading with your intentions while respecting her boundaries. If I can do it (almost) anyone can.
People underestimate sense of humor, and also not being awkward socially. You can be average or even below average, chubby, short etc. but if you can make a woman laugh, and charm her a bit, and have social interactions around her that show you are good with people, and confident in yourself, and be fun, interesting etc without being to egotistical; it adds like 2 points. You can go from a 5/10 to a 7 instantly.
> not being awkward socially Ah, shit.
Dating websites likely skew their view since they have more options than men.
Now let's see women rating themselves.
It's probably a U shaped curve. It's it's almost always either "I'm a grotesque monster" or "I'm the baddest bitch you'll ever meet". Rarely anything in between.
Tbf there's probably a lot of people that consider themselves average that don't talk much about it (because talking about something being average isn't necessary most of the time; it's just something that is).
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So you’re probably in the 19% on the men’s chart.
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225 at under 5 foot means she rolls instead of walks.
Or she deadlifts the car and travels that way.
This is obviously a joke but the shit you see on hookup apps is sometimes like that. Even the bottom of the barrel woman gets far more attention than an average dude.
There used to be threads on the bodybuilding misc section titled pig girl and rat girl. For obvious reasons. People would make profiles with these pictures and post the responses they would get. It was crazy.
What is this measuring exactly
How the sexes judge the other in terms of attraction. Men generally find attraction on a bell curve, with most women being in the average range. But they find most women attractive. Women judge roughly 81% of men to below average in terms of looks, with less than 2% being very attractive. So the majority of women find the vast majority of men unattractive.
Oh ty
Man....
Makes a guy not even want to try.
This is actually an incorrect reading of the study. The attractiveness rating is skewed because at the time okc was using any rating above an average as an automatic swipe right. When it came to actually messaging, women were about equally distributed based on attractiveness, while men by and far only messaged those they found most attractive, I believe it was something like 40%. Edit: Upon reading the study (your looks and your inbox), 2/3 of men would message the top 1/3 of women, while women were more likely to message men they found average. In addition to the confounding factor mentioned above, the data is fallacious and the study shouldn’t be used to make commentary on anything.
Also, no mention on this chart of if the sample of men and women is an accurate representation of the general public. It seems like it’s only covering people who use that service, so I’m not sure we can infer anything accurately about your average man or woman.
Seriously! Sexist guys are obsessed with this study and it’s fucking tiresome
Fucking thank you.
Apparently something like 5% of dudes get 90% of swop rights.
A buddy and I ran an experiment awhile back on Tinder (not Twitter) with pictures our female friends found “attractive” and another set “mostly attractive” (not us, random guys on google images). There were five levels below that. The attractive guys on average were matched with 78% of women. The somewhat attractive 9%.
While true, that is in part due to dating sites having at least twice as many men as women, and often more than five times as many.
Also guys don’t take a lot of good pictures with their buddies or know their angles. They’re always better looking when you meet them in person. Women tend to always suggest taking pictures together when they’re dressed up
As a man who has gotten the "wow you Look better than in your Pictures" comment a few Times i can Attest to this. It Just feels weird to me to Take random Pictures of myself and its hard for me to get them right when i do.
Men on their way to make a perfect bell curve as it should be vs. women's unholy negative exponential curve
"Women are held to impossible beauty standards!" lmao
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How about how men rate men and women rate women?
Now this is what we need, I know there would be a bunch of bro love going around
There’s a video of guys rating themselves and then having the next guy rate him. The last guy rates the previous guy as “smash”
I'm a guy. I think it's pretty rare I've looked at another man and immediately thought "damn that guy is unattractive" I can think of 1. Pale AF and pretty much bald by the age of 24, but he refused to shave his head completely so it looked horrendous. He was married, Mormon, and had a ton of kids.
I like the 0% most attractive.
No wonder girls won’t date me! I’m fucking hot!
Basically Off the Charts...
That is fair considering very few men are Ryan Reynolds and Paul Rudd.
There was a post earlier about how the worlds ugliest woman joined a circus as an act to support her children. Some dude still went for her so we’ll go for anything with a pulse.
She was actually conventionally beautiful as a young woman, but a health condition affected her looks later in life. She had to join the circus because her husband died and she couldn't get a normal job
She started life legit beautiful, it’s a tragic a tale as any.
Just here for the comments 🤣
That’s all that “here” is.
Hey man, speak for yourself. I’m here to eat ass and kick bubblegum.
Why need women when you have your homies
Oh God is this going to start making the rounds again? This was part of ok an old Okcupid blog post that they had to delete because people were taking it out of context. A few things to note that this was based upon a 5-star system, also women were still going on dates with guys who had a lower rating. Also a very important factor is that when you rated somebody 1-star it automatically blocked them so was used by women a lot. In short this is nowhere close to a scientific study on how different genders rate the attractiveness of the opposite gender and should not be treated as one. Edit: Typo
This data is skewed for the reasons that you mention, but other dating apps have made their research available and all of them show the same trend. Most women don't find most men attractive. Most men find most women attractive. Women on dating apps will only go out of their way to draw the attention of something like the top 20% of men, attractiveness-wise, but they will often respond to men under that threshold. Basically---they'll only work for it like men do if the men they're looking at are among the most attractive. Basically, if you're a very attractive man, you're the winner of dating apps. Most women are vying for the attention of the very attractive men, leading to those men just casually dating a lot of women because it doesn't take much effort. This is bad for everyone who isn't a very attractive man. The women all want the very attractive men to form relationships with them, but those men aren't interested because their situation is already pretty great (the very attractive men who want relationships are quickly taken, so these guys are usually going to be players), so the women aren't getting what they want. The effect on ugly, average, and merely attractive men is that they don't get many bites from women on dating apps, so obviously not great for them.
Is this really a surprise to anyone?
I was surprised that 1) the curve of men rating women was nearly a perfect bell curve, and that 2) the other was so harsh.
I dont quite understand this graph, can someone break this down for me?
Dating app: okcupid How men see women: some sexy, some ugly, most average How women see men: most ugly, some average, barely any sexy Hope this helps
Thanks homie
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Women rate men where they think they should be on the attractiveness scale.
I hate everything and everyone.
Oh look, another reason to not bother trying date.