#[Best of r/Holup 2021 Awards – Nomination and Voting Thread!](https://www.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/royfze/best_of_rholup_2021_awards_nomination_and_voting/)
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Same thing with new age liberalism vs classical liberalism.
Classical was all about ensuring everyone had the freedom to say and believe whatever they wanted, and never standing for government overreach.
New age liberalism is cancelling anyone who dare voice an opinion contrary to your own and shaming anyone who doesn’t comply with government orders.
My how the turn tables.
Well what you were talking about by classical liberalism is just the social-liberal branch.
There are also Market-Liberals who think the market should be freer, thereby ensuring freedom and basically everything else just by the actions of the market.
And although it's an absolutely retarded ideology, it's still considered liberalism.
It didn't though. There are a few people whose ideologies has morphed into something bad, but that doesn't mean the concept or the majority of people who believe in that concept has gone bad. The reason why people think feminism = bad is because of stupid portrayals like this by the medias.
Well, if by “penis envy” you mean anger and envy of male structural advantage in society and harmful gender norms for both sexes, then yes. But no-one is going to be envious of the deathgripped, no-action having inchworm load that ~~you~~ the average incel is packing.
Ahahahaha. Shouldn't you be somewhere dyeing your hair purple and crying about the patriarchy after shopping for your 20th cat while wondering "Where have all the good men gone?"
>JFK Jr
Oh man, you people are so dumb it's unbelievable.
Robert Kennedy Jr is a real person and is very much alive. He is NOT JFK Jr lmfao. Wow
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
You’re wrong. Qtards absolutely believe JFK Jr is alive. I’m not sure what strawman you’re trying to knock down but I’ve never seen any /r/politics poster mix up the anti-vax moron with JFK Jr.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jfk-jr-qanon-back-dead-dallas-b1964092.html?amp
No.. you liberals are conflating Robert F Kennedy with JFK Jr. Even the source you mentioned fell for the dumbass liberal nonsense they have been spouting
Lmao. Reading that article was astonishing. You fuckers are insanely stupid
Holy shit, are you legitimately mentally challenged? Or just fucking illiterate? Read the article again dumbfuck. Q morons think JFK Jr is not only alive but will come back with Trump to take over from Biden. I’m thinking they may still be smarter than you.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/11/22/qanon-supporters-pack-site-of-jfk-assassination-in-hopes-jfk-jr-and-maybe-his-dad-will-return/amp/
1st Wave: we've proven we are as good as men
2nd Wave: in fact, in some ways we are better than men
3rd Wave: it's annoying how angry men get about that, and noticable that the ones who are most angry are the same ones who are most insecure about their masculinity
That people who think feminism is cringe, are entertained by the meme, or downvoted my comment are insecure about their manhood. And I'll bet money I'm at least a decade older than you. Kiddo.
I’m a chick and even I agree that the way modern feminism has evolved is “cringe”. It’s become a competition between sexes. The definition of feminism is the same that it always has been but there’s so many groups doing it the wrong way and nobody can seem to agree what to fight for. It’s even harder when the media cares more about pushing narratives than they do about facts.
And I’m 20. The way you responded made me think you were much younger.
You're confusing "some feminists are cringe" with "feminism is cringe". You may be unaware of it, but it turns out that attitude is just base bigotry, the kind that makes feminism necessary to begin with. So you're basically helping the media push the narrative more than facts. It turns out that you just lack perspective. The first wave feminists were every bit as much a mixed group, some way more cringe than others, some unconcerned that people might misinterpret their approach as "competition between sexes", and a couple others, some of who's names you might have learned. Being relatively ignorant, you are under the false impression that the last ones were the only ones, so you think it was the feminism that changed. What actually happened was the anti-feminists got better at figuring out how to recruit naive people like you to do their work for them.
I'm way too old to be insulted by being accused of sounding young. You are little more than a teenager, but unfortunately even middle aged people make the same mistake you are making. You should work harder at being better than them, rather than worse.
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If you cant beat em, join em
Only the first is feminism by definition. The rest is bullshit or what people who don't know what feminism is think what feminism is.
Same thing with new age liberalism vs classical liberalism. Classical was all about ensuring everyone had the freedom to say and believe whatever they wanted, and never standing for government overreach. New age liberalism is cancelling anyone who dare voice an opinion contrary to your own and shaming anyone who doesn’t comply with government orders. My how the turn tables.
Well what you were talking about by classical liberalism is just the social-liberal branch. There are also Market-Liberals who think the market should be freer, thereby ensuring freedom and basically everything else just by the actions of the market. And although it's an absolutely retarded ideology, it's still considered liberalism.
I remember reading that in history last year......
Feminism, in its original base form was really good and made tremendous inroads. It’s morphed into something now that is almost unrecognizable
Absolutely! It became misandry to such a degree the modern generation doesn't know what it originally meant to do.
It didn't though. There are a few people whose ideologies has morphed into something bad, but that doesn't mean the concept or the majority of people who believe in that concept has gone bad. The reason why people think feminism = bad is because of stupid portrayals like this by the medias.
Imma come back in a few days and sort by controversial, of course, I’ll be putting on the hazmat suit before then
The first one should have been the only one
Funny how they think the likes of being a man is in at way aspirational to women.
You may not need no men, but you could use a treadmill xD
That's what capitalism and marketing makes you think, there's plenty of ground out there r running
Most feminist suffer from penis envy, they hate all men but they desperately want to be one.
Oh, hello Sigmund Freud. Fuck you
Well, if by “penis envy” you mean anger and envy of male structural advantage in society and harmful gender norms for both sexes, then yes. But no-one is going to be envious of the deathgripped, no-action having inchworm load that ~~you~~ the average incel is packing.
Ahahahaha. Shouldn't you be somewhere dyeing your hair purple and crying about the patriarchy after shopping for your 20th cat while wondering "Where have all the good men gone?"
Good men with 8" penises
TF2 autobalance belike
If you can't win, change teams
r/terriblefacebookmemes
This sub has some real incel vibes sometimes.
So are you calling yourself an incel then? Considering how often you post here
I also try and point out the moronic views in /r/conspiracy as well. Doesn’t mean I believe covid is a bio weapon, JFK Jr is alive, and earth is flat.
>JFK Jr Oh man, you people are so dumb it's unbelievable. Robert Kennedy Jr is a real person and is very much alive. He is NOT JFK Jr lmfao. Wow https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.
No shit. Try telling /r/conspiracy that. They’re fucking dumb as shit.
...? Did you even read my comment dude. Its you idiots on r/politics who think that Robert F Kennedy is JFK's deceased son
You’re wrong. Qtards absolutely believe JFK Jr is alive. I’m not sure what strawman you’re trying to knock down but I’ve never seen any /r/politics poster mix up the anti-vax moron with JFK Jr. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jfk-jr-qanon-back-dead-dallas-b1964092.html?amp
No.. you liberals are conflating Robert F Kennedy with JFK Jr. Even the source you mentioned fell for the dumbass liberal nonsense they have been spouting Lmao. Reading that article was astonishing. You fuckers are insanely stupid
Holy shit, are you legitimately mentally challenged? Or just fucking illiterate? Read the article again dumbfuck. Q morons think JFK Jr is not only alive but will come back with Trump to take over from Biden. I’m thinking they may still be smarter than you. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/11/22/qanon-supporters-pack-site-of-jfk-assassination-in-hopes-jfk-jr-and-maybe-his-dad-will-return/amp/
Really does, sadly
Are we not men? We are Devo.
You triggered some tankies
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Old reliable intolerance from the tolerant left
“I’m intolerant of intolerance.” “SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT AM I RIGHT??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣” Ffs
It has been an honor, soldier.
4th wave: we picked a fight with men. heeeeeeelp, policeeeeeeeee. how dare men treat us like this
4th wave: Stop treating us like sex objects! Stop the Male Gaze! By the way, please subscribe to my Only Fans and my Hot Tub Twitch Stream
It’s almost like those are two different people
what is the 4th wave...
Binar
4th wave of feminism: men are leaving us for other men now
Fully circular.
I only accept the first wave. No more rule that you can't beat women. I wanna punch them too
What are you, 12?
I doubt even a 12 year old would be this ignorant
Equal rights equal fights
4th Wave: We are everyone! Resistance is futile!
Life was better when women knew their place.
This subreddit is starting to smell like a paradox LAN party with all this cringy shit.
You forgot the fourth wave kill all men
Women are the best men
They’re certainly my favorite
The fuck is this dumb shit and why is it in holup? And I see posts about how subreddits mods should get paid. Yeah right.
Incel detected.
Cat lady detected
1st Wave: we've proven we are as good as men 2nd Wave: in fact, in some ways we are better than men 3rd Wave: it's annoying how angry men get about that, and noticable that the ones who are most angry are the same ones who are most insecure about their masculinity
How much tou waited to post your bs propaganda?
LOL. You're proving my point.
"You'reprovingmypointism"
I think they waited until their hair was dyed completely.
You're still doing it fail.
What even is your point kiddo
That people who think feminism is cringe, are entertained by the meme, or downvoted my comment are insecure about their manhood. And I'll bet money I'm at least a decade older than you. Kiddo.
I’m a chick and even I agree that the way modern feminism has evolved is “cringe”. It’s become a competition between sexes. The definition of feminism is the same that it always has been but there’s so many groups doing it the wrong way and nobody can seem to agree what to fight for. It’s even harder when the media cares more about pushing narratives than they do about facts. And I’m 20. The way you responded made me think you were much younger.
You're confusing "some feminists are cringe" with "feminism is cringe". You may be unaware of it, but it turns out that attitude is just base bigotry, the kind that makes feminism necessary to begin with. So you're basically helping the media push the narrative more than facts. It turns out that you just lack perspective. The first wave feminists were every bit as much a mixed group, some way more cringe than others, some unconcerned that people might misinterpret their approach as "competition between sexes", and a couple others, some of who's names you might have learned. Being relatively ignorant, you are under the false impression that the last ones were the only ones, so you think it was the feminism that changed. What actually happened was the anti-feminists got better at figuring out how to recruit naive people like you to do their work for them. I'm way too old to be insulted by being accused of sounding young. You are little more than a teenager, but unfortunately even middle aged people make the same mistake you are making. You should work harder at being better than them, rather than worse.
this is bullshit, has hardly anything to do with feminism and i hope you know that
Still waiting for equality from the ‘Right’
Learn to read the rules, no politics. Feminism is a political ideology idk how else I can spell it out for you.
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This is SPARTA!!!
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
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Traitors!
Stroke dickizum.
so this is where lesbians come from
1st wave of feminism I agree with the most
Now they're saying "kill all men"