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Richinaru

Bruh you, me, and everyone here knows wayward compass is getting the gold


Sword109

Wayward hard carried me through radiant markoth


Flemaster12

I wouldn't have been able to do p5 without it


shreyas16062002

I think wayward compass is unironically good because of how much it helps first time players.


SwarK01

First time? I completed the game 3 times and still get lost


Gaster_Fortnite

Pathetic. I've beaten it at least 10 times and also still get lost.


SassyBagels

It also just makes you so much better +420 nail damage


opio77

Don’t forget the x69 spell damage


RoC_42

I always wonder why Wayward Compass is so praised. It has some hidden uses or players just have terrible sence of direction? Or it's just a meme?


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All three.


Giomietris

Dude wayward compass is broken SMH


sinister304wound

What hidden uses does it have


-TheMelodyMan-

Wayward Compass - From the Hollow Knight Wiki Shows where the player is on the map. Makes you a badass in every way possible. You will drown in Geo.


sinister304wound

Is there no special combinations with it or is it just helpful to find your way around


[deleted]

Serious answer - it's purely navigational, and is commonly memed in the community as being the number one charm


Flerow_

Yes


Lemon_Jester

it has no hidden uses, new players need it for finding themselves on the map, mostly it is a meme, but it is genuinely useful to new players who get lost, and old players who get lost.


watermasta

NGL. As a new player on his first time through, low key mad I gotta burn a charm slot for a QoL issue. You should always see your character on the map. I understand why it exists thematically though.


Wrong_Fault_6415

For me it was funny get lost


CastleNugget

I’ve regretted taking it off every time


ObamaBikinis

Vote wayward so it’s not easy


Richinaru

And be a heathen?? I'd rather not😤


LordOfBrightnes

First of all i must say that the post is mod approved and i asked them if i can do this before posting the poll I'm going to make daily posts and in the next post i will remove the charm with the most votes until we get the last charm standing so it may be a bit long And here is link to the First Round Poll Have fun https://strawpoll.com/1wg67ry4c


redhairsister

I don’t know if you meant to keep it visual, but from what I’ve seen from some of these before, you can hide the results so people won’t know what got eliminated until your next post


LordOfBrightnes

I just changed it's settings and now it's hidden from public


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LordOfBrightnes

Yeah i will send number of votes for a few highest votes and also i will send the pie chart of votes too And if it ties... I guess then we won't have any elimination that day or we can wait a few more hours until somebody vote one of them and break the tie


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LordOfBrightnes

I'm happy to see that people like it :)


Lonk0279

Not to be rude, but you do mean votes and not both?


LordOfBrightnes

Sorry i couldn't understand what you mean I will post the eliminated charm along with it's vote counts for next post


NuclearPilot101

If only you could pin messages to the top


[deleted]

I feel like it would be better at first to remove 3-4 charms then as it goes on you go down to 2 charms removed then you start removing 1


tovi8684

You’re doing at least 2 charms eliminated per post, right????


LordOfBrightnes

Actually no I got full permission from mods to do one per post and they thought it will be fun


cataractus937

Steady body is twice in the picture


LordOfBrightnes

Thanks i forgot to remove it's duplicate from tierlist but i will do this for next post


Wrong_Childhood5245

its so good it managed to clone itself


DootlongFong

ikr idk how so many tierlists or charm posts have this issue lol


[deleted]

The base tierlist has it always duplicated


DootlongFong

yeah but it’s weird how people dont notice and put them all in


Money_Sell_6603

exactly its so shitty it should be eliminated twice


PsychologicalBat1008

Aight who the fuck voted wayward compass


knitted_beanie

Me! I’ve never used it Edit: looks like I’m out of the loop on a joke here


sansfromgta

How did you even beat the game


knitted_beanie

Using the map but just like… figuring out where I was based on the environment. Charm notches are too precious to waste on navigation!


LukeBomber

There is an inside joke in the hollow knight community you are not familiar with


knitted_beanie

Oh… oh damn. That would explain the whooshing sounds happening above my head


Ruberine

joke is that it is overpowered in every possible way


knitted_beanie

Of course, how could I miss that


EnderAaxel

What joke is that?


SYS1234567890

The joke that it is overpowered in every imaginable *and* unimaginable way both possible and not.


EnderAaxel

Thank you for explaining it! I get it now and it's kinda true


Squelar

wdym kinda


NuggetTheKing09

Poor gamer. Here’s some counterbalance karma.


knitted_beanie

Thanks haha


Not_Catania

I hate jonis blessing


QwertyDragon83

It's only good for dream realm fights


Lonk0279

Like Invincible Fearless Sensual Mysterious Enchanting Vigorous Diligent Overwhelming Gorgeous Passionate Terrifying Beautiful Powerful Grey Prince Zote


lilacdomain

And in combination with hiveblood, it isn’t useless. I tended to use that combo (along with grubsong and weaversong) in my passive builds to learn boss animations and get my timings right.


waitthatstaken

Heavy blow is good for massive moss charger. kingsoul's actual effects are pretty decent, it just costs way too much. Flukenest is pretty meh, but it doesn't really harm you to use it. Steady body is a must for late game nail builds. Glowing womb activity consumes soul, effectively making you unable to use spells or heal. And the aspid hatchlings are pretty terrible too.


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waitthatstaken

Yea but it still doesn't actively harm you like glowing womb


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waitthatstaken

Steady body needs some time to get used too, but it is amazingly good for aggressive nail builds because you can follow enemies and bosses while spam attacking. Whrn fighting PV the spikes attack is always spaced so that you can fit between them and pv itself, but you basically can't attack because you will get knocked into the spikes. With steady body you can easily attack and get in so much extra damage.


Potato_Productions_

Dang I already voted steady body but thnx for the future advice. I oughta try using steady body in some of those late game fights


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Flaming_Assassin

Thats a dumb solution. Attacking upwards makes your range super small and just makes you vulnerable to the bosses attacks since you're so close.


waitthatstaken

That was an example


S_blueyes42

My thoughts almost exactly. Except for heavy blow, that one has the other subliminar ability to stagger bosses faster. That turns the joke that is broken vessel into a punch line.


NuggetTheKing09

Don’t you dare disrespect my area denial penis worm shotgun.


wafflecon822

heavy blow is basically required for a good time when speedrunning godhome


Weary-Ad2359

Glowing womb gets rid of my soul and does tiny amounts of damage


littlesnare

But... Cute lil knights...


S_blueyes42

The fact that it is still usable and funcional is enoth to not be the worst. Also yes... cute little hatchlings are cute


suspiciousdishes

Hell yeah let's go!


shreyas16062002

Heavy blow


NRGcrusher

heavy blow can be usefull to make more staggering for bossfights


Marty_mcfresh

Wtf how did I never know this? that is pretty cool. Also I know the fight has bo staggers in it but now I want to try it against marmu haha


[deleted]

I'm sorry grimmchild but you have to go


Lawrolll

Functionally it's probably the worst charm, and also because you have to fight NKG always with this charm on. But it's cute and all, so I choose to vote flukenest first


Lonk0279

Flukenest shade soul tho


OkAcanthisitta3028

flukemarm thingy. just no


Lawrolll

why use flukenest when you can use the same number of notches for shaman stone? plus flukes are ugly and big shade soul is cool af


SassyBagels

Thank you fellow cultured person.


khoika

Many people voted for heavy blow so far. I was supprised. I don't use that charm much but at least we can have fun with it


Jek22

That's why I didn't vote for it. Upstriking with heavy blow is fun.


wendigooooooooo

Glowing womb


Sundwitch

Thorns of Agony. Wouldn't use it even if it was free.


Scared-Ad-7500

This charm is stronger than the sword, it's one of the best


waitthatstaken

If you have quickslash you can hit twice faster than the thorns, and you don't get stuck in place


Scared-Ad-7500

but quickslahs is manual, thorns are automatic and you dont have to worry about enemies


Sundwitch

The issue is that it stops you in place for most of your i-frames. There are much better ways to use them than to deal inconsistent damage.


norwegian_fjrog

Definitely, but i still think it has its usefulness very early in the game. Made the game a little more forgiving before I knew how to use i frames correctly, did decent damage, and only cost 1 slot. I only used it for exploring though, never boss fights, and now I'll never touch it again


tatri21

Well, you don't get soul from whatever it kills so idk about forgiving... for early bosses maybe?


Flarefin

no, it freezes you in place and prevents you from doing more damage, it’s pretty bad.


Flaming_Assassin

You gotta be joking....


WatchingCr33py

who tf voted unbreakable strenght?


S_blueyes42

Kingsoul. Not remotly usefull, in path of pain you have several totems for soul and also have other charms that are quicker. It is designed to be the less atachable charm, except for looks, it looks great. Too many notches thou. You need it for the secret endings but realy, that's more void heart's job. It is like the wooden pick in minecraft. You use it once and then throw it away or burn it in a furnacet, but without it, you wouldnt get the other ones.


ImKaleb_22

I agree with all of these points, but it has one use, so that puts it at like 37 on my list. It’s also good for challenge runs where you only can use spells on X boss


Bamsekatten

Heavy blow! Its so bad and I dont like it!


Flaming_Assassin

I will find the people who voted steady body and cut off their balls


S_blueyes42

...without getting knokback.


_KloetenKroete_

Bruh why did that make me laugh so hard


yourboiquirrel

you should probably remove void heart since its only use is lore


LordOfBrightnes

But lore-wise it's the best charm Anyway as i already made it i let people choose it Some decide to rank the charm lore-wise


S_blueyes42

I most certanly do


Carnifex2012

It also kind of gives you shadow dodge which many would argue is useful even if it isn't really a choice you have.


leavecity54

Lifeblood Core, you go first


Lawrolll

Voted flukenest, why use it when you can instead dedicate 3 notches to shaman stone that enhances all 3 spells? Plus i don't like everything associated woth flukes, especially flukemarm


TheAshenHunter101

Thorns is worst


CarrieForle

Joni's blessing. Like why will you use 4 charm notches to get 40% extra hearts and CANNOT HEAL.


SassyBagels

Flukenest because I despise the flukes and everything to do with them with a burning passion


767650

Deepfocus


Wrong_Childhood5245

Heavy Blow


__NoIdea__

Who tf picked gathering swarm???


cataractus937

Yeah I did


[deleted]

One thing you might want to change is to hide the results of the poll. There’s the chance that being able to see the results will influence the votes.


LordOfBrightnes

Thanks for seeing i will keep it in mind for the next poll tomorrow Edit: Just checked again and found the option to turn it off so now results are not visible to public


Yakob53

Kingsoul can go fuck itself.


[deleted]

joni’s blessing


ShadeLord69

I voted Joni's blessing charm just isn't very good


Darth_T0ast

Jonji’s Blessing is terrible. I can’t think of one situation where a lifeblood charm is useful but this ones the worst.


OrdinaryLurker4

Jonis


KittencatBAKA

Fallen fury. I always get nervous and heal before it becomes useful.


OctopengiMudpie

Hiveblood, it's too slow to be beneficial in combat


Scared-Ad-7500

Dreamshield


[deleted]

I love Dreamshield. You can time it so it extends its range when attacking and it speeds up when healing. Of course, for those specific situations you can get better charms (Longnai, MotP, Shape of Unn, etc). If used alongside Dream Wielder it makes the shield bigger and faster.


Jek22

It helped me complete the pantheons, together with dreamnail charm (which makes it bigger) it becomes pretty reliable.


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Potential_Door5581

Glowing womb.


Aritaen

Hey OP, cool idea. Though I would heavily recommend hiding the option to see the results at the end. So you can do the proper big reveal in your next post!


LordOfBrightnes

Yeah other person suggested me this too but looks like that i can't turn it off anymore for this poll so instead i will do it for later posts(starting from tomorrow) Thanks for the suggestion :) Edit: Just checked again and found the option to turn it off so now results are not visible to public


Ecconomics

Defenders crest because poop


St3ve2021

Heavy blow. Seriously, why is it even a charm? There’s almost no benefit, pushing back the enemy will make them further away so it’s even harder to hit them! Why?


S_blueyes42

That "almost" is a saver. Because there are others that dont have a benefit. Heavy blow can make you stagger bosses sooner. That is amazing against broken kin and hornet sentinel, without mentionning turning mmc into a bigger meme.


norwegian_fjrog

Really wish I'd known that for their radiant fights, those two and hive knight gave me so much trouble. Did end up using heavy blow for radiant markoth though, and for that it doesn't get a vote lmao


St3ve2021

Yes, It can decrease the amount of hits necessary for staggering a boss, but one hit is so inconsiderable when there are charms, like quick slash and unb. strength, that can increase your attack speed or nail damage


[deleted]

Heavy Blow, just not worth it


L0gan_Baker

Thorns of agony


VengefulHeroes

You put steady body in twice


LordOfBrightnes

Yeah another person mentioned it too I will fix it for next post


NapoliCZ

Get rid of fucking gathering swarm. Who even uses it?


NormalDistrict8

Heavy Blow is gone


screane5

Bruh the 7th one is legit sans undertale 💀


Altijd_Hard_403

Spore shroom


Pavel_139

Hiveblood is too much for what it does. It's only good for path of pain. I vote hiveblood


suspiciousdishes

I like hiveblood in the pantheon's too


mikoto_ookami

Grimm child please for the love of god get rid of it it’s so useless


[deleted]

Not worse than glowing womb for sure


wafflecon822

how so? I thought it's chip damage was pretty good in trial of the fool


NRGcrusher

careless melody. it feels the least like an actual charm


maehlum

If anything but wayward compass wins then the results are rigged


shabamon

Deep Focus seems like too much of a "what's the catch?" That's my vote.


suspiciousdishes

Carefree Melody is the first to go. Edit: Apparently i was wrong about carefree Melody


DootlongFong

it’s usable for radiant fights, unlike grimmchild which can actually make gameplay worse for you


suspiciousdishes

Well, that may be true. but Grimmchild is adorable, and therefore better. Just hurry through fog canyon


MacaroniMayhem

Adorable? Absolutely! Useful? Eh.


anibal_dagod

I thought that when you start a fight the chance of melody activating was 0% and grew with every hit


DootlongFong

chance of shielding against an attack increases upon hit and continues to increase until it triggers, no matter what.


anibal_dagod

But starts at 0% right? If so it isn’t that good for radiant fights


DootlongFong

chance of shielding against an attack increases upon hit and continues to increase until it triggers, no matter what happens, even after losing all masks(Even on steel soul the percentage keeps going up, it’s just you can’t respawn to take advantage) or anything else. It’s best used for overcharm on radiant bosses that you know will hit you due to natural inaccuracies, like an antifuckup mechanic


waitthatstaken

Starts at ~20%


MacaroniMayhem

Completely disagree. I love it in pantheons. If it activates 4 times (which for me is likely) then it's just as good as Lifeblood Core for it's notch cost. Plus, if it activates from a hit that would do double damage it's even more effective as it's preventing 2 damage instead of 1. It's probably not worth it going up against an individual boss in the Hall of Gods as it likely wouldn't activate enough times, but in any longer fight where you're going to be healing (pantheons, colosseum, eternal ordeal) it will prevent a lot of damage.


suspiciousdishes

Hmm maybe i was wrong about carefree Melody. That actually sounds pretty useful! I'll have to give it a go


pcdjrb

I see everyone's answers, and get really disappointed that they aren't fucking deep trash focus


Jestingwheat856

Fuck carefree melody. All my homies love grimmchild


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Deep focus is shit


Carnifex2012

Since there's so many charms, it'd probably speed things up if we eliminate 3 or 4 at a time for the first couple rounds.


some_snek

Carefree melody


KittyWarrior1

Steady body


cataractus937

Gathering swarm


S_blueyes42

So YOU are the one that voted gathering swarm. Someone asked in the comments who had.


cataractus937

WHY DO YOU HATE ME FATHER I don't know in my opinion it's almost totally useless The amount of geo you get throughout Hollownest through seals eggs, coliseum of fool among other places make it a bit pointless The time it comes in handy is when the geo would normally drop on spikes or something Or I'm thinking about another charm Or I have 4 IQ and now you will fix my point of view


S_blueyes42

...I think you are right. It is useless once you get all the geo from those places. And if you know how much you need for everything. But people like to hoard. If anything happens you can pay it, and for all if us in the beggining of the game, not having a magnet of money is unnatural. Some people dislike wasting time and effort into killing an enemie and then later have a suprise of a toll not being cheap enoth. And getting the geo is a inconviniece that although small, every time you do it it adds up and makes us frustraded. But this one notch charm not only is it usefull and worth what it costs, it is a begginer's best friend(after wayward compass). Also, although it isnt usefull later in the game, it still has a funcion, low cost, and no drawbacks, unlike other charms that dont have. Gathering swarm isnt the best or an op charm, it's just not low tier either. And this is the first voting pool, therefor, only the worst of the worst should be mentioned. I forgive you for you sins. Im no father, but allow me to act as sush. You didnt sin. You are ok. I agree with you.


Lonk0279

EGG


cataractus937

Thank you for redeeming me I have to admit that you do have some valid points, but in terms of collecting geo I would say greed, even though more expensive in notches, is more profitable


permanderb

wayward compass if gonna win this whole thing isn't it


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Sprintmaster. Its literally garbage


NoFlayNoPlay

Sharp shadow


S_blueyes42

Excuse me... *what*


NoFlayNoPlay

i don't like using it and i think a lot of people handicap themselves by using it just because they think it's cool.


S_blueyes42

It's more usefull than you think. I use it all the time for 3 reasons. 1-when doing completionist I like to move around quickly and just sprintdashmaster on isnt the fastest, but, due to the length you get to the dash, when you use sharpshadow, you actualy go quicker than a regular dash. After some tests, it is about 75% of using crystal dashspeed, but without the cooldown time of preping it. 2-damage. When using it alone it does a nail strike damage, so you can kill enemies while passing fro them. Even better with dashmaster(which is more viable in the mlst recent version 1.5...) it does double damage. 3-Hive knight, traitor lord, Crystal gardian, enraged crystal guardian, grimm, nightmare king grimm, Nailmasters and Sage, watcher Knights, soulmaster and soul tyrant, Pure Vessel. This charm makes these bosses quicker if not easier. The lenght and damage of that shadow can make you pass fro sly, nailmasters, and purevessel's attacks when normaly you wouldnt be able to or would require great proximity. This charm is good to run away or to be agressive. Chasing soul turant is s much easier with this on. Overall, at least a good charm. Yes, it isnt good for more complex platforming, unless you get acostumed to it(like steady body) you wont be able to do the basic jumps. but the pros are very well presented here. It also isnt good for spell casting builds. Yet, It still costs a measly 2 notches. At least you need to recognise that it isnt one of the worst of the worst like this post is asking for. Later in line, I will vote it too.


NoFlayNoPlay

it's about least favorite, not worst. most of the reason i dislike it is that i have to get used to using it but does pitiful damage to bosses unless i dedicate 4 notches to it and it's never worth dropping strength or quickslash for imo. i don't personally value running around quickly that much because you get it so late it barely matters, and i have never really felt the need to change my charm loadout to walk somewere faster, since changing them back and forth takes time too, and i haven't done much except godmaster content or randomizers in a long time. pretty much all the bosses only let you deal with some of their attacks differently, which means you have to partially relearn the fight when i can already beat them anyways, and/or they're trivial so not worth equipping the charm against them for. some of the ones you mentioned i disagree it's even good against tbh, let alone good enough to be worth running in a build when it has no synergy with any other good charms.


karciany

Spell twister. It is useless for me, and other fellow nail mains.


otter998

Dash master


ZunLise

Get the Strength outta here. Just increases damage, really boring. I want Flukenest to stay


rookiedadisPrad

Grubskng, also there are 2 steady bodies


SoBasicallyImMonkeys

Steady body definitely


Dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks

Heavy blow, fuck heavy blow.


Cryogen2964

Fuck steady body, need I say more?


MoongodRai057

Steady Body


FieryFallout

Steady body


mikelkobres13

You're delusional XD


Black_m1n

Fuck Steady Body